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16121474 No.16121474 [Reply] [Original]

What causes Homo or transsexuality? Do they have some evolutionary benefit for the individual or society/the human race?

I am not taking the worm theory, social contagion or the childhood rape theory into account because they are retarded.

>> No.16121480

>>16121474
You know if you fucking losers spent as much time on literally ANYTHING else in your life as much as you spend obsessing about trannies you'd all probably be confident and successful men in your day to day

>> No.16121496

>>16121474
It can't be genetic, otherwise it would have been filtered out and its occurence would be limited to identifiable genetic malfunctions.
The argument that homosexuality is a by-product of some other genetic mutation that makes people more successful at mating makes no sense either because homosexuality itself would still be selected against within that framework. Subsequently, that mutation would come to be less and less associated with homosexuality itself while still being under pressure for its positive attributes to be selected for. Either way, it can't really be an inborn feature. It makes no sense.
>social contagion or the childhood rape theory into account because they are retarded.
No, I believe that social contagion is an important reason, especially with transgenderism. It often starts out as a fetish and only later on becomes an identity feature due to the "fetishist" actively seeking out spaces that will affirm his or her fetishism. I personally doubt that most transgender people actually feel like the opposite sex.

For homosexuality, I assume it's more so related to epigenetics and other developmental processes. I believe that certain types of hormonal imbalances, however not testosterone, starting during pregnancy (possibly an overexposure to estrogen in male fetuses) and propagating itself during childhood and puberty causes suppression of behavioral patterns and preferences that would be otherwise activated if the glands worked properly or can't be activated even if the puberty process itself works normally. It's probably also related to an environmental impact that causes infertility and low sperm counts in males. Both conditions are more so closely related to asexuality, but an homosexual can easily mistake his lack of interest for women for an erroneous attraction to males.

>> No.16121503

...continuing

It's possible and judging from what I've seen likely that most homosexual men originally start out as bisexual and have an interest in women, but eventually stop chasing them because they're not particularly good at it. Most would become celibate or continue having mostly unsatisfying relationships with the few women that they manage to bond with, but homosexuals might switch for same-sex partnerships.
>but an homosexual can easily mistake his lack of interest for women for an erroneous attraction to males.
What I've written here matches fairly well with what I've written above in the case of lesbians which are known to have very little sex.

>> No.16121504

>>16121480
he's just being curious you freak

>> No.16121520

>>16121474
Mental illness, sexual fetishes, drug addiction, lack of intelligence/inhibition

>> No.16121540

It's an evolutionary mechanism to mark failed individuals so society can easily spot and get rid of them

>> No.16121543

>>16121540
when AGI and robots become able enough, you will lose your value, so by your standards, you should be removed from the group because you just became a liability with nothing worthwhile to offer. by your logic the top psychos ruling this world should just kill you.

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16121548

>>16121543
>when AGI and robots become able enough
This won't happen in the foreseeable future of mankind and once it does it will be branded as heresy and shut down
>by your logic the top psychos ruling this world should just kill you
The "top psychos" are failed individuals like fags, they go directly against the wellbeing and evolution of mankind and belong in the same pyre

>> No.16122520

>>16121543
>top psychos
So, kikes? Hmmm, I wonder which group of individuals (other than faggots) has been consistently hated and shunned throughout human history?

>> No.16122532

>>16121474
Brain wiring getting screwed up

>> No.16122545
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16122545

>>16121474
>What causes Homo or transsexuality?
I know a lot of trans people are closeted gays and or autistic. It feels like a social contagion and kids being manipulated into thinking that becoming trans will solve their psychological issues.

>> No.16122554

>>16121474
>What causes Homo or transsexuality?
Other homos ( like OP ) and cats.

>> No.16122555

trannies are just homos in denial
>OMG I LIKE DICK!
>But im not a homo!
>Therefore I must be a girl! Yes! Thats it! I am a girl!

>> No.16122561

Aren't you going to eat the rest of that OP

Sage the fuck outta this thread

OP can't even eat chicken properly

>> No.16122629

>>16122555
Actually a lot of trans people ARE homo (like vaginas)

>> No.16122775

>>16121474
It just some people fail mentally while trying to find there place its madness

>> No.16122829

>>16122545
>I know a lot of trans people are closeted gays and or autistic.
Seems like being gay or autistic is the explanation for any social ill nowadays. One is a sexual preference, the other... well meaningless psychological gibberish. Two steps ahead, three steps back.

>> No.16122872

>>16121474
>no one loves me
>people love women
>maybe someone will love me when I am a woman
ACK

>> No.16122904

>>16121474

My personal model is that it is a form of hypersexuality.

Body builders when taking excessive HGH and Testosterone reported getting aroused by homosexual and trans / trap pornography.

I think they are hypersexual, and find the most taboo form of sex (gay sex).

Almost every gay man I've ever met has had an absolutely massive sex drive.

>> No.16122915

>>16121474
hedonism causes them. does hedonism have an evolutionary benefit?

>> No.16122920

>>16121474
ALL mammalian animals display some form of homosexuality.
It's perfectly normal.