/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.16120804]

Delta Finale Edition

[Anonymous No.16120811]

>>16120804
Going live soon
https://www.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaTh7dhCYZFE

[Anonymous No.16120815]

>>16120804
Previous
>>>16117997

[Anonymous No.16120821]

>>16120804
We get it, this thing is an antique

[Anonymous No.16120828]

official stream 2h until live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTh7dhCYZFE

other streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZNw5xSfqUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3y92WAYZdI

[Anonymous No.16120829]

>>16120811
>https://www.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaTh7dhCYZFE
Your link is fucked up, faggot

[Anonymous No.16120832]

>>16120804
the Delta IV has practically nothing in common with those original Deltas from back in the fifties and sixties. It's just branding.

[Anonymous No.16120833]

https://www.vastspace.com/updates/vasts-haven-1-to-be-worlds-first-commercial-space-station-connected-by-spacex-starlink
>Long Beach, Calif. (April 9, 2024) – Today, we are announcing that Vast’s Haven-1, scheduled to be the world’s first commercial space station, will be equipped with SpaceX’s Starlink laser terminal providing Gigabit/s speed, low latency connectivity to its crew users, internal payload racks, external cameras and instruments.

[Anonymous No.16120841]

>>16120829
Can't spoonfed everyone

[Anonymous No.16120854]

>>16120833
https://twitter.com/michaelnicollsx/status/1777686628422840515

[Anonymous No.16120859]

>>16120833
>>16120854
Finally, the start of a space to space economy.

[Anonymous No.16120868]

>>16120854
>>16120833
ok but when is it realistically launching?

[Anonymous No.16120877]

>>16120833
You will be able to shitpost in /sci/ while in orbit?

[Anonymous No.16120880]

>>16120877
There should be a from-space 4chan account desu

[Anonymous No.16120882]

>>16120880
Starlink would just show as a US geoip flag.

[Anonymous No.16120886]

>>16120877
What will be the "post hands and passport" for space anons to prove themselves?

[Anonymous No.16120896]

>>16120886
>post gravity

[Anonymous No.16120900]

Can we not stage threads as newfags please? Lurk more. Twitter screenshot + fucked OP = newfag still wet behind the ears.

[Anonymous No.16120919]

SPEHS

[Anonymous No.16120926]

>>16120919
NO TRANS BIPOC ABOARD = RACIST CHUDCE COMPANY TO BE NATIONALIZED

[Anonymous No.16120937]

>>16120832
You can say the same thing about a Ford Ranger and yet it is still a direct descendant of the Model T.
Press F to pay respects to one fo the true workhorses of US space.
>F

[Anonymous No.16120943]

>>16120937
yes, I will press F for the Delta II
>F

[Anonymous No.16120977]

>>16120937
>workhorse

The Delta family yeah, but Delta IV is like the fat slob uncle sleeping on the couch.

[Anonymous No.16120978]

this is the 7th DIVH launch since falcon heavy was flying. $2 billion could have been saved by transferring the payloads.

[Anonymous No.16120985]

>>16120978
You can't just transfer contracts like that.

[Anonymous No.16120991]

>>16120985
if the rules say you have to light $2 billion on fire then they're bad rules

[Anonymous No.16120997]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yg0JY15ayus
Clear Live

[Anonymous No.16121003]

>>16120943
>>16120937
>F meme
Back to teddit you braindead mongoloid

[Anonymous No.16121005]

>>16120977
Blame ULA for being ULA, not the rocket or even the original Boeing designers.
Last I checked the Delta IV has a 100% flight record. This is very useful for things like national security payloads and part of why SpaceX hasn't (yet) captured the entire US launch market.

[Anonymous No.16121008]

>>16121005
>Last I checked the Delta IV has a 100% flight record.
then check again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Corner_Satellite

[Anonymous No.16121014]

A lot of those controllers sure sound ready to retire with their vehicle.

[Anonymous No.16121016]

>fly 16 times
>retire

[Anonymous No.16121017]

>>16121008
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Corner_Satellite
Flight One still achieved orbit - and that was arguably a test flight. Thirteen flawless launches after that ain't bad.
>>16121003
>not knowing your memes should be a bannable offense

[Anonymous No.16121019]

2 minutes

[Anonymous No.16121025]

i figured we were good for at least one more scrub

[Anonymous No.16121027]

Max-Qute!

[Anonymous No.16121028]

its over

[Anonymous No.16121030]

norminal

[Anonymous No.16121031]

[Anonymous No.16121032]

>>16121014
That's why they're letting it go now.

[Anonymous No.16121033]

>>16121031

[Anonymous No.16121035]

>strap-ons

[Anonymous No.16121037]

>>16121033

[Anonymous No.16121039]

>>16120804
KILL ELON "THE NIGGER" MUSK FOR INTERRUPTING MY FAP SESSION

[Anonymous No.16121040]

>>16121037
what is the mean age in this room?

[Anonymous No.16121043]

>>16121040
>D 4 H still flies missions no other rocket can do, soon Vulcan will take that mantle
>we had people that were here during the very first delta 4 launch and are here now at its last launch

[Anonymous No.16121045]

It's Tory! I almost didn't recognise him without the cowboy hat and not being on a horse.

[Anonymous No.16121047]

>>16121017
>not knowing your meme
>know your meme
Holy shit kys literal KYM faggot reddit isnt enough, you need to go back to tumblr.

[Anonymous No.16121052]

Bory Truno
Beff Jezos
Mlon Eusk
Which doesnt fit? Your answer for worst spaceflight CEO will be the same.

[Anonymous No.16121054]

>>16121052
Bezos isn't a Spaceflight CEO

[Anonymous No.16121062]

>>16121054
His engines finally went to space, if not full orbit.

[Anonymous No.16121071]

>>16121062
he is the owner and founder of the company, not the CEO and as far as I understand it, he hasn't really had any input into anything the company did until like a year or two ago
though still not the CEO

[Anonymous No.16121091]

>>16121062
be4 burns far cleaner than raptor

[Anonymous No.16121095]

Why is it fucking impossible to go onto image searches and find a normal true scale map of the solar systems orbits from orthographic perspectives? Pretty much none of them have the aphelion and perihelion depicted correctly nor are they properly centered around Sol.

Is it that hard to get at least one good top down map of the orbits to scale?

[Anonymous No.16121097]

>>16121091
>methalox burns cleaner than methalox

okay

[Anonymous No.16121098]

>>16121095
be the change you want to see in the world

[Anonymous No.16121101]

the hot staging ring, grid fins, engine shielding and a second QD

[Anonymous No.16121102]

>>16121097
.this aint ksp buddy. check the exhaust, be4 exhaust is almost invisible like space shuttle exhaust. meanwhile raport exhaust is clearly visible during daytime and even has orange smoke for some reason.

[Anonymous No.16121105]

>>16121101
Pointier too.

[Anonymous No.16121106]

thats all for gaia

[Anonymous No.16121107]

>>16121098
I'm trying by attempting to re-construct a 1 to 1 billion scale 3d model of the Solar System in 3d using mathematical references, but I could still really use some image references for the sake of efficiency.

[Anonymous No.16121120]

>>16121102
the SRBs fuck up photo exposition
also
>33 Raptors vs. 2 BE-4s

[Anonymous No.16121147]

FISH SATELLITE FISH SATELLITE

https://x.com/redwirespace/status/1777744499197759502?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

> Introducing the SabreSat Orbital Drone: a new breed of satellite. Offering high-resolution imagery and resilient communications, it's designed for performance, endurance, and cost-effectiveness. Learn more

https://redwirespace.com/capabilities/sabresat/#SabreSat

[Anonymous No.16121148]

>>16120919
They need to paint one like an orca.

[Anonymous No.16121149]

More like casey handjob

[Anonymous No.16121150]

>>16121043
People with brown eyes look soulless

[Anonymous No.16121161]

>>16121120
check out a be4 static fire.

[Anonymous No.16121164]

>>16121149
fuck that faggot. hes so stupid. he will be casket handjob if i ever get a hold of him.

[Anonymous No.16121170]

>Delta IV Heavy is finally dead

[Anonymous No.16121171]

https://x.com/redwirespace/status/1777744499197759502
Saw this new satellite, looks sick. Its a satellite platform that can be modified and mass produced for even mega constellations they say. The platform is called VLEO.

[Anonymous No.16121172]

More like casey suckandfuck

[Anonymous No.16121174]

>>16120896
on your grave, disgusting earthe-
uhh... i mean, i am johnny ground from lithosphere oblast, how do you do fellow earth lover?

[Anonymous No.16121179]

>>16121147
nigger you beat me >>16121171 to it and i didnt even notice. but i didnt post the link with the tracker at the end like a glownigger would so i win.

[Anonymous No.16121181]

>>16121102
it isn't lol, it just has a lower mass flow rate because it's shit lol.

[Anonymous No.16121186]

>>16121102
this is true, Raptor is actually a dogshit engine, it's a surprise SpaceX keeps perusing it when BE4 has demonstrated greater efficiency and fuel usage

[Anonymous No.16121189]

>>16121161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksGnkKeGy4I
I don't know man, there's a lot of orange there

[Anonymous No.16121203]

why doesnt elon musk just sell spacex at this point? why carry on the scam to the point where it collapses and he loses everything?

[Anonymous No.16121209]

>>16121101
why are the engines sticking out on the 2nd booster?

[Anonymous No.16121211]

Why are amateur astronomers hellbent on helping the CCP?

[Anonymous No.16121220]

>>16121209
Because Elon wants to delete any part that isn't necessary and contrary to popular belief he does directly make design decisions on the rocket.

[Anonymous No.16121222]

[Anonymous No.16121229]

[Anonymous No.16121241]

space is a doggy dog world. who will be the final victor?

[Anonymous No.16121243]

>>16121170

All that's left is Atlas 5 and Vulkin.

[Anonymous No.16121244]

>>16121211
>noooo you have to be subservient to the national reconnaissance office
>you cannot just take a picture of the sky it's a secret goys

[Anonymous No.16121247]

>>16121222
what was the apollo 17 eva actually for?

[Anonymous No.16121249]

>>16121209
because all the piping and tubes you normally see on a rocket engine are being made integral on Raptor 3 which means it doesn't need all that heavy shielding

[Anonymous No.16121258]

>>16121174
Post ball drop webm with stopwatch filthy belter

[Anonymous No.16121262]

>>16121241
Cats

[Anonymous No.16121270]

>>16121258
what would the belter equivalent of asking for bobs and vagene be?
>your so sweetheart can you pls post riverstream image bb thank you.

[Anonymous No.16121271]

>>16121241
Its dog-eat-dog you ESLcel.

[Anonymous No.16121277]

>>16121271
no need to get your pansies in a fist.

[Anonymous No.16121279]

>>16121277

[Anonymous No.16121281]

>>16121271
hello newfriend

[Anonymous No.16121289]

>>16121279
>misses funny joke
>UH YOU MUST BE PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED BECAUSE I DONT GET IT
autistic, likely sat on the edge of the playground during recess.

[Anonymous No.16121297]

>>16121147
uh how is it supposed to be resilient?

[Anonymous No.16121300]

>>16121289
Why dont you explain this ingeneous 'funny joke' of yours then? Oh wait, is that that dog-eat-dog sounds like doggy dog? And whats that? The second 'funny joke' was more misspelling and its supposed to be funny? What a pathetic and suicide inducing 'joke' you stupid nigger.

[Anonymous No.16121310]

>>16121300
if you had just lurked 2 years before posting you wouldn't be embarrassing yourself like this
don't bother replying

[Anonymous No.16121312]

>>16121310
Obligatiry reply of spite

[Anonymous No.16121314]

>>16121300
>man hears funny joke
>gets mad
a tragedy in two parts

>ingeneous
ingenius, and no, i never said it was smart, you're asking for an explanation to an intentional misspelling joke anon, idk what to say.

also, you're talking to two people lel, i wasn't the one who made the first funny joke.

[Anonymous No.16121316]

https://twitter.com/esherifftv/status/1777715615924662387

Ellie literally built up her career in real time. What are you doing with your life?

[Anonymous No.16121326]

>>16121316
Working a job and getting my degree so that I can be useful to the Martian colony/SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.16121328]

>>16121326
degree in cock sucking.

[Anonymous No.16121329]

>>16121328
That would be your sisters department

[Anonymous No.16121338]

>>16121105
why is it pointier, wasnt it supposed to be the other way?

[Anonymous No.16121356]

>>16121338
more header tank space

[Anonymous No.16121361]

>>16121241
My money is on the hairless apes.

[Anonymous No.16121367]

>delta is dead, Atlas is nearly dead, Antares is dead, SLS never launches, space shuttle has been dead for a decade, ISS is over 25 years old, America hasn't been to the moon in 50 years
The American empire is failing

[Anonymous No.16121372]

>>16121367
And the commercial empire rises from its ashes.

[Anonymous No.16121373]

>>16121271
?? Who tf told you that lmao

[Anonymous No.16121381]

>>16121367
Strokin my shit rn to this. Amerimutts finally btfo

[Anonymous No.16121389]

>>16121367

[Anonymous No.16121391]

>>16121367
*the oldspace empire is failing
newspace is doing just fine.

[Anonymous No.16121393]

>>16121170
Goodnight Delta IV

[Anonymous No.16121397]

why do people always take the bait?

[Anonymous No.16121400]

>>16121397
If youre talking about >>16121367 this post thats not bait its just something all of /sfg/ agrees with and is happy to see. Bait wouldve been something like
>*twitter link*
>muskrats btfo, time to admit that with boeing, youre going

[Anonymous No.16121404]

>>16121171
that's just a space drone at this point

[Anonymous No.16121407]

>>16121367
>ISS is over 25 years old
this is a good thing. we need infrastructure and destinations in space.

[Anonymous No.16121409]

>>16121400
>>16121367
Samefag

[Anonymous No.16121412]

>>16121367
damn, antares. Rememebr when antares and falcon 9 were competing for commercial crew. imagine how hilarous it would be if NASA gave the entire contract to Antares and then SpaceX died.

[Anonymous No.16121415]

>>16121412
or Boeing

[Anonymous No.16121416]

>>16121412
Same story with Boeing Starliner. Dissimilar redundancy is supposed to keep one of the two options going in case one has an incident, and it did in fact work out that way, just not in a way they expected.

[Anonymous No.16121418]

>>16121412
>NASA is reliant on Antares
>Falcon died and SpaceX goes busy
>Space shuttle is retired
>Boeing is given the entire responsibility for the next capsule (no commercial crew, no competition, so cost plus only)
>Boeing pulls and Boeing and does nothing
>Russia invades Ukraine
>Antares is indefinitely out in hold
God that timeline would have been NASA entirely reliant on soyuz, even for resupply lol

[Anonymous No.16121420]

>>16121418
Falcon dies and SpaceX goes busy* (lol)

[Anonymous No.16121424]

does anybody know how starship is supposed to hover in lunar gravity? just one raptor at min throttle would be too much. Not to mention that on one raptor it would have to land at a dodgy angle incresing the risk of tipping

[Anonymous No.16121426]

The future is bright!

>>16121424
They have small descent thrusters in development that will be mounted fairly high up on Lunar Starship.

[Anonymous No.16121427]

elon doesn't understand that payload is supposed to go up with wet mass

[Anonymous No.16121429]

>>16121409
Phonefagging so I cant inspect element, sorry to dissappoint

[Anonymous No.16121430]

>>16121427
Payload fractions depend on dry-mass fractions and reusability imposes its own tax on gross liftoff weight to payload capacity.
What's with all the bait attempts today?

[Anonymous No.16121431]

>>16121426
i thought that was cancelled and musk said they would land on raptors? I guess its reversed again now?
Superdraco is absolutely perfect for the final hover and touchdown if they want to put in minimum effort. Do they plan on making methalox thrusters?

[Anonymous No.16121432]

>>16121431
Methalox thrusters are the plan. They were planning on methalox thrusters for Starship and Superheavy, but they're starting with a delete first, put back in if they actually need it later engineering and design philosophy, because they want their minimum viable product to actually be the minimum viable product.

[Anonymous No.16121433]

>>16121427
Quality bait right there.

[Anonymous No.16121436]

>>16121427
>starship v1
>that payload to orbit
so its officially official that it could never deliver 150 tonnes?

[Anonymous No.16121437]

>>16121429
>>16121409
Oopsy poopsy

[Anonymous No.16121443]

>>16121432
seems like wasted effort if these thrusters are only intended for hls

[Anonymous No.16121446]

when?

[Anonymous No.16121450]

>>16121446
>proonted hab
>inflatashit modules
>ugly suits
>czechs
>the moon
hopefully never

[Anonymous No.16121454]

>>16121443
Needs Must. They need to have such a thruster, and they must develop a methalox thruster to actually build their desired moon base.

[Anonymous No.16121458]

This morning I woke up from a dream where I was one of the first colonists on Mars. As it was a dream, there were some pretty unexpected things.
The landing craft was pretty similar to Starship and did the same belly-flop maneuver to decelerate from the atmosphere, but the upper cone of the landing craft were the habitation pods that would detach and parachute down like a classic crewed cockpits. It seems impractical but it's how they did it in my dream. I drew up a shitty MS paint diagram to show what I mean.
You also didn't need a space suit to survive in the Martian atmosphere for some reason. It was just very cold, hard to breathe, extremely windy, and there was a supposed risk for radiation during the day but the spacesuit was just "highly recommended" and you could survive outside without one. Some of my fellow colonists were very uptight about always wearing spacesuits when there was any exposure to the Martian outside and got pissed at me when I would open the doors to the habitation pods when they were in their spacesuit. (for some reason the pods didn't have proper airlocks).
At some point I knocked over some guy's cup of tea and spilled it all over the Martian soil, I can't remember if it was an accident or because I was mad at him, but the rests of the colonists detained me and tried to contact Earth to see if they had permission to do a trial and either imprison or execute me over spilt tea.
It was a surprisingly coherent dream and I could see all my fellow crewmembers hating me in real life if I was selected to be a Martian colonist. Although being able to go outside in Mars with minimal protection would be nice. Those who were upset about being exposed to the Martian atmosphere while suitless were just a bunch of pussies.

[Anonymous No.16121460]

>>16121427
Elmo is an idea guy. Explains why all his companies fail all the time. He's just rich from suckin cocks

[Anonymous No.16121461]

>>16121367
140 launch this year from Falcon 9.
200 the year after with Starship coming online

[Anonymous No.16121463]

>>16121460
Musk hating tranny is seething

[Anonymous No.16121464]

>>16121454
Assuming HLS starships wont be refuelled and reused in space then methalox landing thrusters are uncecessary when superdraco can do the same job. I thought the plan is to throw away the ship after mission completion, but if they have a plan to somehow refuel it and reuse it again and again then I guess it makes sense.

[Anonymous No.16121465]

>>16121464
The long term plan for building a moon base in detail specifies ship reuse and making (re)use of SpaceX's future refueling infrastructure in Earth orbit.

[Anonymous No.16121466]

>>16121463
i take it you were the punk gettin sucked off. whats the charge these days, $15 a man?

[Anonymous No.16121506]

>>16121466
and can you explain how you know that charge and why you were thinking of getting sucked off by men?

[Anonymous No.16121518]

in the future people will retroactively call starship longship because of how distinctively long it will be. There is an uncanny parallel with the viking longships. Like the vikings we will sail far and even settle the new world (Mars), but ultimately it will be economcially unsustainable and the settlements will die out. In the future wewill return. Perhaps it will take less than 1000 years this time if the flow of human time is truncated by accelerating advances in technology.

[Anonymous No.16121522]

>>16121095
i know of a couple of living maps of the orbits of all major objects in the solar system but theyre kinda demanding

[Anonymous No.16121542]

What happens if Angara blows up on the pad

[Anonymous No.16121544]

>>16121518
Starship 3 is still wider relative to its length than Falcon 9 is.

[Anonymous No.16121554]

>>16121542
Russia loses more customers.

[Anonymous No.16121555]

Do you think there are any permanent 3-body star systems out there without a heirarchical order?

[Anonymous No.16121557]

>>16121555
my dick+2 balls

[Anonymous No.16121558]

>>16121506
under Queensboro Bridge, correct?

[Anonymous No.16121562]

there will be generation beta children that remember the falcon days like we remember the saturn days.

[Anonymous No.16121564]

They're all dead...

[Anonymous No.16121569]

>>16121564
can we finally start drawing these exploded everywhere or burnt to a crisp like komarov?

[Anonymous No.16121572]

>>16121569
mmmmm zigger bbq

[Anonymous No.16121574]

>>16121220
>>16121249
no, I'm talking about how the center gimbaling engines are slightly lower than the outer ones

[Anonymous No.16121580]

>>16121564
McDonnell Douglas' last triumph

[Anonymous No.16121591]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Gnn2WPgUI

IT'S UP

[Anonymous No.16121593]

>>16121591
I bet muskrats are not EAGER to watch this vid
heh

[Anonymous No.16121611]

>>16121574
The real answer is because those models are more than likely not engineering ones. I think earlier ones of the V1 Starships also had that feature. Just look at the quality compared to the current product models, also on Raptor. The future Starships are also thinner than the current one and I'm not sure that Russian-style hotstaging ring is really going to happen.

Captcha: GAK W

[Anonymous No.16121617]

>>16121611
That is how Starship is built currently. The gimbaling engines stick out further.
Probably just for better gimbal range without hitting the other nozzles.

[Anonymous No.16121618]

>>16121544
its still a ludicrous length, especially for landing on the moon or mars. This guy built a mockup with nicer andmore practical proportions for standing upright on a surface

[Anonymous No.16121628]

>>16121367
faggot
the king is dead (governmental old space), long live the new king (commercial space)

[Anonymous No.16121647]

>>16121628
Commercial space is dead, too

[Anonymous No.16121650]

>>16121647
spacex is commercial space, they are certainly not dead

[Anonymous No.16121654]

>>16121400
is it bait if its someones sincere opinion?

[Anonymous No.16121662]

>>16121654
Now THIS is bait. Take a (You)

[Anonymous No.16121665]

>>16121618
That's an artillery shell.

[Anonymous No.16121667]

Wtf happened to this thread? Is it Only Retards Can Post Day?

[Anonymous No.16121671]

>>16121667
yes, welcome

[Anonymous No.16121673]

>>16121650
The commercial market is not booming; it is extremely niche and selective

[Anonymous No.16121678]

>>16121667
Its one guy samefagging all the bait posts and occasional serious posts.

[Anonymous No.16121686]

>>16121542
guess they keep using Proton for a while longer

[Anonymous No.16121698]

>>16121686
I thought the production lines have been shut down

[Anonymous No.16121700]

>>16121562
none of us remember the saturn days

[Anonymous No.16121705]

>>16121554
>Russia loses more customers.
What customers? They don't really have a commercial space launch market anymore except for a few third word countries occasionally.

[Anonymous No.16121707]

>>16121591
>>16121593
>it's pretty clear that spacex is the most capable aerospace organization right now
>more capable than NASA, the Russia roscosmos, and India's ISRO
>maybe there might be a conversation compared with the Chinese
Eric coming out swinging

[Anonymous No.16121709]

>>16121700
My bad I forgot 4cuck is filled with nutoddler zoomers now.

[Anonymous No.16121711]

>>16121709
so what was your favorite saturn launch that you watched live?

[Anonymous No.16121722]

>>16121665
no its fucking not. its french sls

[Anonymous No.16121726]

Is there a legitimate reason why ISS isn't using Starlink? Its all legal reasons right?

[Anonymous No.16121729]

>>16121726
they already have better internet than starlink

[Anonymous No.16121730]

>>16121726
ISS has dedicated RF downlinks and fiber backhaul.

[Anonymous No.16121731]

>>16121726
REEEEEEEE NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT THE VAST ANNOUNCEMENT NOW THEY GET TO PLAY GAMES IN ORBIT TOO??? I LOVE STARLINK I LOVE FALCON I LOVE STARSHIP I AM SOIFACING IRL RN

[Anonymous No.16121733]

Earth is hell, you're in it now. Literally the cop cars have 666 on the side in the phone number. We're being tortured by evil. The screams I'm made to witness come out of my fucking mouth above the light will have me filing cold tears into my arms. The plotting starts tomorrow, return to your factory job. Nobody real is even reading this, if you're real and you're reading this type "I'm real and I'm reading this 123". I have a very insincere drop about the lord of evil which I will be posting in 27 hours. This drop will be the most significant drop in the history of 4channel. This is Pandora's box I'm opening and the effects of this will be like a sunder into the programming of our simulation. It may instantly cause all life to be extinguished, permanently. You won't want to miss this. Prepare yourself mortal, but you can't prepare for what I'm about to say. Await.

[Anonymous No.16121734]

https://x.com/vast/status/1776274816611549455
>Ever wonder what it takes to build a space station?
>Take a tour at our Long Beach facility. Six months ago, this was a mostly empty building. Now we are designing, manufacturing, assembling and testing the world’s first commercial station. All under one roof.
Why did none of you post this tour??

[Anonymous No.16121738]

>>16121734
i've had enough vaporstation factory floor tours for one lifetime

[Anonymous No.16121742]

>>16121738
Actually go watch it and tell me what you think. It seemed like the real fuckin deal.

[Anonymous No.16121743]

>>16121734

[Anonymous No.16121745]

>>16121743

[Anonymous No.16121748]

>>16121745

[Anonymous No.16121749]

>>16121745
Sovl, the open air office spaces are also kino. Seems like the entire place is built to allow communication between everyone and for changes to happen on the fly.

[Anonymous No.16121750]

>>16121742
i have no doubt they're building real hardware. i'd be more impressed if they took me on a tour of their cash flow statement and it showed that they're going to be solvent in 2 years.

[Anonymous No.16121752]

>>16121738
Anon Im waiting to hear your opinion on the tour

[Anonymous No.16121760]

>>16121726
They'd have to do the work to implement Starlink into the ISS' communications backbone, and SpaceX only recently made in-space Starlink a thing that they'd offer to anybody. NASA probably hasn't even had a chance to budget to look at implementing it yet.

[Anonymous No.16121762]

>>16121730
>>16121729

And yet live feed is in 720p

[Anonymous No.16121765]

>>16121762
That's due to FCC bullshit, it all has to fit in ATSC for OTA without transcoding.

[Anonymous No.16121770]

What if we made these in to autonomous drones that could attach and detach from a space station like some sort of mothership and allow people to ride in them around the station? That would be so fucking kino I WANT AN ORBITAL SAILFISH DRONE NOW NOW NOW IM A SELFISH LITTLE FUCK

[Anonymous No.16121775]

>>16121734
I love the Tesla style drone factory tour

[Anonymous No.16121777]

i made the right call in backing vast as the future dominant force of the commercial space station market. graviticels have yet to post anything in MONTHS about their shitty station, maybe even since last year. and we get news almost biweekly at this point from vast

[Anonymous No.16121778]

>>16121775
Also, I noticed that its not just American companies copying Tesla style factory tours. Xiaomi also recently did a Tesla style drone cam factory tour video as well.

[Anonymous No.16121779]

>>16121707
Capable of what though

SpaceX can build LEO commsats and rockets

If Rocketlab goes through with the Venus mission it will actually have passed SpaceX

[Anonymous No.16121781]

>>16121778
Tesla copies many East asians companies first lol

[Anonymous No.16121783]

>>16121778
sovl, but when they get starship human rated its going to be so weird docking what is essentially a space station to another space station. and thats not even a joke, spacex is literally planning a space station starship variant if you remember. the gateway docking concept is the same way.

[Anonymous No.16121784]

>>16121779
>hey everyone lets prove that we're actually a useful company by sending a probe the least useful planet in the entire system.

[Anonymous No.16121786]

>>16121779
at the end of the day elon's nothing but a low-energy architect

[Anonymous No.16121835]

see what youve done baiter? now theres nobody to respond to your bait. learn to slow burn and atleast make it believable.

[Anonymous No.16121853]

Work continues on Starfactory. How long has it been since they started?

[Anonymous No.16121854]

Also can you guys show me some concepts about spaceflight that you like? I havent heard from Zubrinfag in a while.

[Anonymous No.16121855]

>>16121853
>how long has it been since they started
2017 anon, 2017

[Anonymous No.16121861]

>>16121855
God damn 7 years making one building. The payoff will be worth it though, these ships will get pumped out like no tomorrow and thats what we need most right now with ramping launch cadence.

[Anonymous No.16121863]

i told ol' musky he needed some trade studies on how to put up a building, but that sorefoot shouted back "i haven't any more need for a trade study than a tomcat has for a marriage license!"

[Anonymous No.16121865]

Falcon 9 launch in 50 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/live/Z1Y4Law6lfo?si=QfD01WyPOhqc8YDS

[Anonymous No.16121868]

>>16121853
This building started construction in 2022

[Anonymous No.16121871]

>>16121855
You lied to me >>16121868

[Anonymous No.16121874]

>>16121871
got you anon haha :) 2017 was for starbase hehe

[Anonymous No.16121893]

>>16121356
wouldnt it make sense to make a tip a ball?

[Anonymous No.16121896]

was 9m a mistake for starship?

[Anonymous No.16121903]

>>16121896
Stop trying to make shortstack rockets a thing, the drag ratio would be hideous

[Anonymous No.16121905]

>>16121896
yes, 12 m would be much better instead of comical 150m to 9 m
it could be 84 m high while being 12m wide with the same volume

[Anonymous No.16121906]

>>16121896
Yes, starship will only be good for delivering starlinks

[Anonymous No.16121909]

>>16121896
In hindsight, probably. The propellant to dry mass fraction is a little bit prohibitive, and the stack needs to get quite a bit longer to make up for it, and not a lot of that stretch can be put into the payload bay, which is unfortunate because it's rather short for most high capacity applications.

[Anonymous No.16121913]

>Unconfirmed reports suggest that at the moment of docking, when the pin was inserted in the cone of Soyuz 5, one of the crewmembers on the latter ship shouted out "We're being raped! We're being raped!" While initial TV broadcasts of the segment carried the exclamations intact, all later replays omitted the offending words.

will we ever find out who did it, /sfg/?

[Anonymous No.16121924]

>>16121905
That would look pudgy and ugly, and V3 Starship looks good. Sorry not sorry, and I mean this, Im not the baiter.

[Anonymous No.16121928]

>>16121896
Elon himself said it was a massive mistake. He said it was too big, should have gone smaller

[Anonymous No.16121933]

ITS was downscaled thanks to the shitty carbon fiber and they still couldnt make it work in 9m

[Anonymous No.16121937]

Just want to say that all you people bitching about Starship diameter are gonna have to live with it because they sure as shit arent gonna tear up all the infrastructure they have in place specifically made for the current Starship size just increase the radius because you all dont like how it looks.

[Anonymous No.16121940]

>>16121937
Ok then Mars isnt happening. You can choose

[Anonymous No.16121946]

>>16121940
You know that this isnt an ultimatum situation and you also know Im not Musk. Just get used to it, it looks great anyways compared to oldspace garbage.

[Anonymous No.16121948]

>>16121743
The flythrough of the orthogrid mill with chips flying everywhere was my favorite part of the video.

[Anonymous No.16121949]

>>16121937
Pencil rocket is going to end up like those two recent moon probes. Starship should be short and fat

[Anonymous No.16121951]

>>16121949
The only thing that will ever be short and fat here is you. We're not just gonna make Starship into Sea Dragon because youre a selfish little fuck, theres a little thing called legs that HLS can have that will easily make up for that.

[Anonymous No.16121953]

Weird that some people aren’t here because they like rocketry or aerospace engineering but instead because they project onto musk/America/trump to give any value to their self or life

[Anonymous No.16121958]

>>16121953
I dont get why they come here and dont just go to their quarantine board. I mean I was like that once in high school because I was a loser who had no passions but as soon as I found my purpose in life all of that shit just stopped having any meaning. Youd think that politicels would only come here when theres news on Boeing or Locksneed or something but they show up even outside of that.

[Anonymous No.16121967]

god Falcon 9 is so fucking ugly

[Anonymous No.16121968]

>>16121958
I think they want to be “in”. Spaceflight will save the white race/america/human kind and therefore it’s the most important thing ever, and obviously the best or only way to engage with spaceflight is through posting. Some of it has been super embarrassing, like calling anyone who doesn’t like Artemis “wumao”

They’d be better off picking up some books and learning, or at least watching some eager/hullo/estronaut/costplus videos so they learn at least an outline…

[Anonymous No.16121971]

>>16121967
Take that back

[Anonymous No.16121976]

I love it every time

[Anonymous No.16121978]

>>16121971
I have to be a hater somehow, the rocket just werks too well

[Anonymous No.16121980]

>>16121976
Replying to bait I assume

[Anonymous No.16121993]

you know what reusable rocket wasn't embarrassingly skinny?

[Anonymous No.16121995]

>>16121698
>I thought the production lines have been shut down
Russia never throws anything away. Surely all the tooling and engineering documents for Proton are sitting in a warehouse somewhere gathering dust and could be reactivated if needed. Unless somebody sold them under the table to an unnamed evil country of course.

[Anonymous No.16121996]

>>16121993
I never understood the reusable second stage meme

[Anonymous No.16121997]

>>16121993
the space shuttle is such a weird rocket design in hindsight

[Anonymous No.16121998]

The State Commission allowed the Angara-A5 rocket to be launched for the first time from the Vostochny cosmodrome
The launch of the Angara-A5 with the Orion upper stage and test payload is on April 10 at 12:00 Moscow time.
The start of the live broadcast: 11:30 Moscow time

Try №2 in 2 hours 30 minutes

[Anonymous No.16121999]

>>16121997
It gets a lot less weird if you can replace the orbiter with an expendable (or engine-pod-recoverable like LOFTID) unmanned cargo fairing. Then replace the SRBs with kerolox flyback boosters and you have something better than Energia.

[Anonymous No.16122001]

>>16121896
no, having a skirt full of engines is kino

[Anonymous No.16122002]

>>16122001
Starship is a dickgirl.

[Anonymous No.16122004]

>>16121993
the shuttle was such a stupid meme but I love it anyways

[Anonymous No.16122011]

>>16122004
>SRB's
>expending a giant tank that could have been perfect for a space station
>only a decently large payload capacity
>unable to leave LEO at all
>somewhat dangerous design
>dead-weight shit like RS-25's one in orbit, or wings and engines at launch
>unable to do it's original design
>never actually did the shit congress and the military fuck up it's design for (polar orbit, launch from vandenberg etc
>extremely expensive per launch despite being partially reusable
>required astronauts due to being unable to land automatically, but could launch automatically (tech that would be made like 2 years after going into service lmao)
>couldn't be easily repaired in orbit despite always being crewed with 5-7 astronauts
>was fragile as fuck
thank god it's the most aesthetic rocket ever made

[Anonymous No.16122012]

>>16121367
>delta is dead, Atlas is nearly dead, Antares is dead, SLS never launches, space shuttle has been dead for a decade,
...and thats a good thing

[Anonymous No.16122016]

>>16121446
>czech on the moon
best i can do is Remek on Saljut

[Anonymous No.16122017]

>>16121997
i've made my peace with the delta wings over the years. were they oversized? yes, but blame the crossrange requirement for that, not the body geometry. they kept leading edge peak temp low enough that the thing could be built with 1970s materials, and they provided enough margin for error that you never had an entry go significantly off-course in 135 tries. most importantly, nobody ever had an issue landing the thing, which is more than dreamchaser will ever be able to say.

[Anonymous No.16122019]

>>16122017
lmao fuck, NASA spent 20 years and millions studying and developing lifting bodies just to abandon the concept for normal fucking wings

[Anonymous No.16122022]

>>16121729
It's gigabit GEO though

[Anonymous No.16122026]

>>16121995
Proton is an efficient rocket and I still think that it's better than Angara if Khrunichev have stricter QC.

[Anonymous No.16122030]

>>16122019
lifting body aircraft gave us the six-million dollar man

[Anonymous No.16122039]

>>16122026
Proton uses highly toxic fuel. That's the reason for its replacement. Also there was a promise to never launch Proton from Vostochny because of that.
That's what they push at least in media.
>Angara-A5 is environmentally friendly, does not use toxic fuel components, unlike the Proton—M launch vehicle, which Angara will completely replace in the near future.
Text like that is under every post about Angara

[Anonymous No.16122044]

>>16122039
it just seems like a meme to me. it's not 1960 any more and handling hypergolics is well-understood. yes, they're a pain in the ass to deal with, but so are cryogenics. is it better, all else equal, to have a kerosene/lox rocket than a hydrazine/spicy oxygen rocket? yeah, but i don't think it's worth replacing something for that reason alone.

[Anonymous No.16122045]

>>16122039
With such a small launch number of less than 10 per year, the environmental impact is negligible. Choosing to invest in Angara in the early 2000's is a mistake on Russia's space strategy IMO. If Roscosmos choose to invest in Zenit replacement as proposed by Energia, they should have a better position as It's more scalable to heavy rocket and cheaper because of the monoblock design.

[Anonymous No.16122052]

>>16122045
>monoblock design
How is that different from the Angara URM design?

[Anonymous No.16122057]

>>16122052
you need only 1 instead of 5

[Anonymous No.16122058]

when is the angara launch

[Anonymous No.16122062]

>>16122058
Not sure but the livestream starts in about 30 minutes. Probably launch at the same time as yesterday's attempt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBoIASnJABc

[Anonymous No.16122068]

"And they will announce that a Japanese astronaut will become the first non-American on a NASA mission to the moon."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/08/japan-us-nasa-biden-kishida/

Imagine the seething of 1 billion chinks when a Japanese walking on the Moon before a Chink

[Anonymous No.16122071]

>>16122057
So no side boosters?

[Anonymous No.16122082]

>>16122058
Russians in chat are suggesting 11:00 UTC.

[Anonymous No.16122084]

>>16122082
Wait, no, sorry, 9:00 UTC. Fuck timezones and fuck daylight savings.

[Anonymous No.16122088]

>>16122071
It wouldn't need boosters. Zenit was basically Falcon 9 (v1)
the occasional small satellites that could not wait for rideshare or at particularly weird orbit could be launched on civilianized ICBMs (to keep the stock rotating and the lights on)

They could then add boosters the same way they do it with Angara, but have something that could lift up to 100 tons to LEO

[Anonymous No.16122098]

>>16122011
>thank god it's the most aesthetic rocket ever made
It's the most kino looking rocket, but the least practical. Literally the opposite of Starship.

[Anonymous No.16122102]

>thinking russian shit will work
When will I learn?

[Anonymous No.16122103]

Why is PocCockMock media so dramatic?

[Anonymous No.16122105]

Angara scrub again. Cursed rocket. Can we just not launch it

[Anonymous No.16122106]

It's over. Russia will never fly in space again. No ROS station. No lunar base. No Oryol. No nothing.
>t. obligatory retarded doompost

[Anonymous No.16122110]

It's over for Russia
hahaha

[Anonymous No.16122111]

IT’S OVER ANGARASISTERS

[Anonymous No.16122112]

Looks like Russia will be taking Soyuz to the Moon after all. It will be a little cramped but they can just recruit some really short cosmonauts.

[Anonymous No.16122114]

>>16122112
throwing up your hands and using a crew of midgets because nothing else can make your mass margins add up, you say?

[Anonymous No.16122115]

>>16122112
it’s already been to the Moon

[Anonymous No.16122118]

>>16122026
Looks like Proton is back on the menu. Putin just needs to sign some law that lets them use it at Vostochny for national security reasons.

[Anonymous No.16122126]

>Saudi Arabia plans to merge its air and space forces into the Royal Saudi Air and Space Force sometime this year
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/04/saudi-arabias-air-and-space-forces-merger-to-happen-this-year-sources/

as i expected. the creation of the space force is spurring alot of countries to create their own space forces. the same thing happened with cyber forces back in the 00's.

[Anonymous No.16122128]

>>16122115
>it’s already been to the Moon
yeah but Russia wants to send actual people to the Moon instead of turtles this time

[Anonymous No.16122146]

Proton will never launch from Vostochny
It was promised. Local indigenous people agreed only building that cosmodrome on a promise that Proton will never start from here

[Anonymous No.16122150]

>>16122126
Isn't this the opposite? The merging of responsibilities into a single organisation. Not that Saudi Arabia has much space capabilities.

[Anonymous No.16122151]

>>16121271
>>16121300
Newfags like this are a diamond dozen.

[Anonymous No.16122154]

>>16122151
I thought the saying was “dime-a-dozen”

[Anonymous No.16122157]

>>16122154
Found another one

[Anonymous No.16122158]

>>16122157
I hate to play doubles advocate, but this anon is right>>16122154

[Anonymous No.16122164]

>>16122150
its more like they're adding space capabilities to their air force and giving a name change to reflect that

[Anonymous No.16122167]

> The repeated postponement of the rocket launch is a common event, Borisov said.


KEK

[Anonymous No.16122168]

Yuri Borisov: the launch of the first Angara-A5 rocket has been postponed to April 11
"We are at the initial stage of flight design tests of the Amur experimental design work. This stage is precisely designed to identify all the nuances that are possible: production, design, technological and operational in nature. Therefore, for developers, canceling launches for technical reasons is quite an ordinary phenomenon," said Yuri Borisov, head of Roscosmos.
According to him, yesterday's cancellation of the launch, related to the abnormal operation of the drain valve, was identified and all necessary measures were developed, which made it possible to successfully pass this stage during today's launch attempt.
"But a new technical problem has emerged, related, according to the results of a preliminary analysis of telemetry, to a malfunction in the engine start control system. Most likely, this is a software error, which will certainly be found today," he noted.
He added that there were no irreversible processes requiring the removal of the launch vehicle from the launch complex.
"Therefore, it is highly likely that after analyzing all the nuances and the conclusion of the state commission, we will preliminarily repeat the launch attempt tomorrow at the same time."
Photo: Khrunichev Center

[Anonymous No.16122169]

>>16122168
I miss dimi, he was a proper lolcow. Russian spaceflight just isn’t fun to follow anymore

[Anonymous No.16122172]

>>16122114
serious question, why not use midgets? Doesnt that fit the ESA bill of being disabled whilst also being a practical benefit?

[Anonymous No.16122178]

Rogozin would have slammed that launch button.

[Anonymous No.16122184]

>>16122178
Rogozin would be calling starship a broomstick and saying it’s worse than soyuz. You don’t know how good you have it till it’s gone boys…

[Anonymous No.16122185]

ITT: goy brown nosers trying to populate another planet with tents and a couple seeds

WARNING: ignore the posts in this thread it gey

[Anonymous No.16122186]

>>16122168
So how many times can they keep fueling and defueling this rocket before it's unsafe to launch? Or can they just keep it topped up with LOX for days at a time?

[Anonymous No.16122187]

>>16122185
Some of us are the chosen people, watch yourself

[Anonymous No.16122199]

>>16122168
Daily reminder Energia-M would've saved all the key components of the Soviet Space Program.
Further upgrades to it would've made it into a recoverable SLS-tier rocket.
Their sheer incompetence led to its demise.

[Anonymous No.16122206]

>Breaking: First Operation Starshield launch for NRO next month.
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/04/nro-plans-first-phase-for-new-proliferated-spy-sat-constellation-in-may-official/

[Anonymous No.16122209]

>>16122178

[Anonymous No.16122211]

>>16122206
Pretty interesting they're not referring to it by name

[Anonymous No.16122212]

>>16122209
The two of them should just kiss already

[Anonymous No.16122213]

>>16122186
LOX isn't that terrible a substance. LH is the one that wears tanks out in a surprisingly small number of cycles, but Angara is a kerologgs rocket.

[Anonymous No.16122214]

I wonder how much the one week delay on the Delta IV Heavy cost in terms of logistics and ground support.

[Anonymous No.16122215]

>>16122214
I wonder if this gey thread will ever stop messing up muh sci

[Anonymous No.16122235]

>>16122213
The kerosene shouldn't be a problem but that -300F LOX can't be doing anything good for those thin aluminum fuel tanks on the rocket. There has to be some limit as to how long they can keep it fueled.

[Anonymous No.16122270]

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1778040450600870080

[Anonymous No.16122277]

>>16122168
Looks like Russia will be launching turtles in a stripped down Soyuz on a Proton for their return to the Moon after all.

[Anonymous No.16122285]

>>16122270
>smallsat launchers
i sleep

[Anonymous No.16122286]

>>16122270
finally desu

[Anonymous No.16122293]

>>16122270
So why doesn't ULA have recoverable liquid fueled boosters if it's this easy?

[Anonymous No.16122302]

>>16122293
ULA was only ever interested in big government contracts and cheaper launches won't magically make the NRO build more KH-11 spy satellites. On top of that there was the doomer assertion that even with reuse they'd never be able to compete with Arianespace or Roscosmos on price, because oldspace creatures think winning commercial contracts is impossible when you're up against ex-Soviet boosters or Europeans from the late 1980s. Reuse was seen by all involved as a major investment that had no chance of growing their business.

[Anonymous No.16122304]

>>16122270
why is this company chasing Electron reuse when it’s going to be phased out for Neutron? Does practicing electron reuse help in any way w/ neutron?? Or is this just a shiny gimmick to help keep the investor cash flow going

[Anonymous No.16122314]

>>16122211
given that it's NRO there's an excellent chance that starshield isn't its real name

[Anonymous No.16122317]

>>16122304
Both. Demonstrating reuse looks good to investors and it's great practice besides

[Anonymous No.16122319]

>>16121946
Ok fine i concede

[Anonymous No.16122321]

>>16122317
Practice with what though?
Are they doing helicopter recovery for Neutron? Are they refurbing Rutherford engines for neutron? No. It is just theatrics.

[Anonymous No.16122323]

>>16122304
>sell no-longer needed Electron to ULA
>ULA attaches four Electrons to one Vulcan core as recoverable side boosters
>ULA now has a recoverable first stage. Maybe they could even get by with one BE-4 engine on the Vulcan core if they go this route thereby saving even more money.
this is my stupid kerbalish idea

[Anonymous No.16122325]

>>16122293
ULA rockets stage way too fast for booster recovery to be practical. if they started off with a falcon 9 clone then I think they would have tried it by now, but they will need to invent an entire new rocket just to attempt f9 style bosoter recovery. not worth the effort.

[Anonymous No.16122336]

>>16122321
they scrapped they helicopter recovery idea
they will get experience in refurbishment and control and this might even save them money in net, who knows

[Anonymous No.16122342]

>>16122304
because it's a ponzi scheme

[Anonymous No.16122348]

>>16122323
Yeah no, the expendable GEM SRBs are probably still better

[Anonymous No.16122353]

>>16122348
9 GEMs + Delta IV core could've replaced Atlas, Delta and Vulcan, no?

[Anonymous No.16122362]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1778051191764668534
eric...

[Anonymous No.16122363]

>>16122353
9 GEM-63XLs on a D4 core with a 5m upper stage could have replaced the Delta IV Heavy. If you trade the DCSS-5 for a Centaur V you'd only need 4-6 63XLs to hit all of the big national security orbits.

[Anonymous No.16122368]

>>16122114
Japan has already shown us the way: we need to recruit little girls to be astronauts. Bonus: skin-tight space suits for extra mass savings.

[Anonymous No.16122373]

>>16121779
>>16121786
anti-spacex copers already forgot about DART lmao.
keep on coping, copers.

[Anonymous No.16122375]

>>16122373
>hundred kgs
yeah that's the full extent of falcon's high energy capabilities
wake me up when it does these
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Solar_Probe

[Anonymous No.16122382]

>>16122375
dont respond to spacex stans. they are baiters or retarded. Spacex is jsut another shitty company.

[Anonymous No.16122383]

Roscosmos full on copium mode. Posting examples when there were 2 scrubs in a row in American, Japanese and European space industries

[Anonymous No.16122384]

so whats going on with the OLM right now? anyone know what modifications they seem to be making or is it just repairs?

[Anonymous No.16122390]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Ab_Aqi7W4
>Preparing for Flight 4 Full Stack | SpaceX Boca Chica

[Anonymous No.16122392]

>>16122390
beat me to posting it. >>16122384 some of the answers you want might be here

[Anonymous No.16122397]

>>16122383
I'm not sure how much of this vehicle is stock Angara A5 and how much of it is precursor work for the A5M. I'm not going to drag them too hard for having issues with a variant of a rocket that's only flown three times with the last of those being two years ago.

[Anonymous No.16122403]

>>16122168
i'm guessing they're being a lot more cautious now even though it's a test flight meant to find issues because they'd lose tremendous face and heads would roll when more eyes are on russia than there used to be.

[Anonymous No.16122405]

>>16122384
installing torture cages to put beetles, plovers, turtles and so on to roast the animals at liftoff

[Anonymous No.16122407]

>>16122375
whats about psyche and the upcoming europa clipper?

[Anonymous No.16122408]

>>16122375
>hundreds of KG's
yeah, doing an insane dogleg afterwards.
oh and the fact that the team who built the sat said falcon 9 was complete overkill for the mission because it was able to do direct entry, but it was still a cheaper option than every other offer.

keep coping lol, lmao.

[Anonymous No.16122409]

bout to drop some bait in circa 60 seconds

[Anonymous No.16122411]

Elon Musk should be prosecuted at the federal level

[Anonymous No.16122418]

hey guys im planing a trip down to boca chica this summer for probably ift-5. any ideas on what i can do down there with my family with 4-5 days on our hands? obviously like 2 or 3 days to checking out starbase and watching the launch but what else is there?

[Anonymous No.16122421]

>>16122375
NH and PSP would need an expended Falcon Heavy with some kind of kickstage, but both of those already needed Star-48Bs on top of an Atlas V 551 and Delta IV Heavy. An expended Falcon 9 could have launched Mars 2020, or a fully reused Falcon Heavy could have launched two Mars 2020 missions simultaneously.

[Anonymous No.16122423]

>two spaceflight articles about the exact same event
why is ars like this

[Anonymous No.16122426]

>>16122423
They're not exactly known for having high journalistic standards

[Anonymous No.16122428]

>>16122418
>4-5 days on our hands
Miss the launch due to scrubs lol

[Anonymous No.16122433]

>>16122428
i have high hopes since the last two launches they havent scroobed

[Anonymous No.16122445]

>>16122409
>bout to drop some pretending to be retarded because my parents failed me
sad.

[Anonymous No.16122516]

>>16122390
>Deliveries at the tank farm
So this means WDR soon? How soon are deliveries usually done, a week before?

[Anonymous No.16122522]

>>16122304
Electron will not be phased out

[Anonymous No.16122535]

>>16121300
Why dont you go back to /vg/ autistic newnigger

[Anonymous No.16122542]

>>16122293
ULA bet on the wrong horse, sustainer cores are the opposite of what you want for reuse.

[Anonymous No.16122546]

>>16121300
lmao you lesser autists crack me up

[Anonymous No.16122552]

>>16122375
>Atlas V
>Atlas V
>Delta IV Heavy

Falcon Heavy has more throw than all of these, they were not even eligible to compete with it for Europa Clipper.

[Anonymous No.16122553]

how are giant passenger spacecraft supposed to fly from planet to planet if they cant use nuclear? using chemical for 5,000+ people is a nonstarter.

[Anonymous No.16122567]

>>16122423
because nothing else is happening and berger didn't want to write eclipse spam like everyone else

[Anonymous No.16122571]

>>16122553
uranium is a chemical. period.

[Anonymous No.16122572]

>>16122571
yeah but good luck allowing thousands of randoms to have access to a massive dirty bomb that can cause planetwide havoc

[Anonymous No.16122583]

What will Martian sportsball be like?

[Anonymous No.16122596]

https://www.udio.com/
/sfg/ needs a theme song

[Anonymous No.16122600]

>>16122596
No we dont.

[Anonymous No.16122615]

>>16122270
I thought it was reusable already, now I find out they've just been recovering them and binning it?

[Anonymous No.16122622]

>>16122615
It's reusable*

[Anonymous No.16122625]

>>16122615
Are you that retard that told me Electron is reusable a while back? I spit on (You)

[Anonymous No.16122628]

>>16122625
not that anon. I just saw them parachute it a couple times.

[Anonymous No.16122635]

Fucking Khrunichev. Just handover their budget to Progress and Energia already.

[Anonymous No.16122638]

>roysia seethe
/sfg/ is healing

[Anonymous No.16122643]

>>16122304
Neutron won't even fly before the tail end of the decade.

[Anonymous No.16122648]

>>16122635
My guy, a rocket can't launch without a launch pad. The Soyuz-5 is never going to be a thing.

[Anonymous No.16122651]

>>16122615
>>16122628
Carbon fiber is a retarded a meme and really doesn't like being heated. The heating is worse on such a small rocket too.

[Anonymous No.16122653]

>>16122648
Did the Kazakh already confirmed they're pulling out of Baitrek?

[Anonymous No.16122686]

>>16122596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTL4T_NVGhY

[Anonymous No.16122690]

>>16122686

[Anonymous No.16122692]

Wonder what mission this will be on

[Anonymous No.16122695]

>>16122653
They've confirmed that they're not going to pay what Russia wants them to pay and Moscow has said repeatedly that they don't want to be reliant on a launch pad in a foreign country that they need to pay $100M a year to rent. There's also no domestic market for a Zenit-class launch vehicle that would compel any politicians to change their mind about it.

[Anonymous No.16122698]

>>16122390

[Anonymous No.16122699]

>>16122692
LMAO get fucked euros. No moon for you. I was expecting a Canadian but japs are a good pick too.

[Anonymous No.16122704]

>>16122692
Artemis 5 or later probably. We need the first landing and first landing via Gateway missions as all Americans.

[Anonymous No.16122713]

>>16122692
My wife Ayu “AEIOU” Yoneda will be going

[Anonymous No.16122714]

https://archive.is/dHsgl

[Anonymous No.16122717]

>>16122692
Clear on the moon

[Anonymous No.16122718]

>>16122713
here comes another chinese earthquake
ebrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr

[Anonymous No.16122720]

>>16122714
>sources familiar with
This is faker than dairy free moon cheese.

[Anonymous No.16122721]

Imagine the seethe if a Taiwanese astronaut went on an Artemis mission

[Anonymous No.16122723]

>>16122721
you could send the whitest white gigachad there ever was, and still half of the United States would seethe because “space is fake”
There’s simply no winning.

[Anonymous No.16122725]

>>16122720
saw the name loren grush and immediately knew it was going to be a hitpiece

[Anonymous No.16122732]

>>16122692
Not surpirse here.

[Anonymous No.16122737]

China will never go to the Moon

[Anonymous No.16122746]

>>16122714
>hides where it's from in his picrel because he knows it's a shit source
every time lol

ignored.

[Anonymous No.16122757]

>>16122737
already have son, 5 times as a matter of fact

[Anonymous No.16122762]

>>16122714
>sources say

[Anonymous No.16122769]

>BIDEN AND KISHIDA: FIRST NON-US ASTRONAUT ON THE MOON WILL BE JAPANESE

[Anonymous No.16122784]

>>16122737
>Be china
>Successfully put multiple probes on moon
>Be USA
>Crash probe, make stupid probe that tips over, or makes probe that misses it entirely
Lol

[Anonymous No.16122794]

>>16121542
They might have to repair the pad and diagnose the problem with Angara. Apart from that, nothing. They don't really have any use for Angara at this time.

[Anonymous No.16122804]

>>16122746
It's Bloomberg. So I guess you're right.

[Anonymous No.16122808]

>>16122737
They're already making grandiose plans

[Anonymous No.16122812]

>>16122808
>they're already making 3d models that take an hour in blender

[Anonymous No.16122815]

>>16122714
>People familiar with the finances of one of the world’s most valuable private companies say Starlink has — at times — lost hundreds of dollars on each of the millions of ground terminals it ships, casting doubt on claims by Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk and the company’s top brass that the business is in “profitable territory.”
>lost hundreds of dollars on each of the millions of ground terminals it ships
That's how such business works which makes me doubt that it's people familiar with finances and not some person from the street.

[Anonymous No.16122816]

>>16122692
>>16122704
It better be on Artemis 3 or 4 or they might disappoint with the "first non-American on the moon" promise

[Anonymous No.16122820]

>>16122812
I think it takes more than 1 hour to make a scene like this, unless you're a Blender magician

[Anonymous No.16122822]

>>16122714
What Elon said was that Starlink is now "Operating Cash Flow Positive". Anyone with an undergraduate level of finance knowledge knows what that means: Starlink is now scaled to pay ongoing costs but doesn't yet pay for the costs to launch or build the satelites. Not sure why WSJ is confused over this.

[Anonymous No.16122831]

>>16122714
Are the writers trying to pretend that one-time sales of ground terminals are supposed to be Starlink's main source of revenue?

[Anonymous No.16122834]

>>16122831
Even gayming consoles are sold at loss

[Anonymous No.16122837]

>>16122831
The writers at Bloomberg are in a race with their readers to see who can get stupider faster

[Anonymous No.16122838]

>>16122815
this was already known a long time ago, during the initial ramp up they sold the dishes at a loss, but that hasn't been the case for a while
and it wasn't just a few hundred losses per dish, it might have been something like a thousand
but after ramping up and iterating I think they are probably sold at cost now

[Anonymous No.16122860]

Astranis just announced their Omega class of satellites, mass produced satellites for GEO

https://x.com/astranis/status/1778136454993961433?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

[Anonymous No.16122866]

>>16122860
>geo

[Anonymous No.16122867]

>>16122304
Will Neutron replace Electron? They are not rockets of the same class

[Anonymous No.16122882]

>>16122596
https://a.cockfile.com/qvsXYR.ogg
here

[Anonymous No.16122887]

>>16122199
The boosters were built in Ukraine, the pad was in Kazakhstan, and Russia's economy halved during the 90s

>The dissolution of the Soviet Union resulted in great difficulties for the Russian space industry. Over the years 1989–1999, the country's space budget dropped by 88%[10] and established production cooperation chains disintegrated.

[Anonymous No.16122892]

>>16122860
>Astranus
>pound-for-pound the most powerful satellite

[Anonymous No.16122894]

>>16122596
ask chat gpt to write one for you

[Anonymous No.16122897]

SPACE FORCE COMMERCIAL SPACE STRATEGY IS OUT

https://www.spaceforce.mil//Portals/2/Documents/Space%20Policy/USSF_Commercial_Space_Strategy.pdf

[Anonymous No.16122900]

>>16122897
>ctrl f
>starship
>phrase not found
not reading lol

[Anonymous No.16122903]

[Anonymous No.16122906]

>>16122882
>cockfile

[Anonymous No.16122908]

>>16122714
>anonymous says
>sources familiar with industry says
>experts say
>trust us bro
Another fud from the corporate media

[Anonymous No.16122910]

>>16122894
this one writes lyrics automatically as well

[Anonymous No.16122922]

>>16122860
i read enough old shit on ntrs to know that these useless fluff here's-what-our-plan-will-do-once-we-actually-get-one papers were basically nonexistent in aerospace before the 1980s. six full pages explaining what the definitions of words like "capabilities" and "proliferation" are.

[Anonymous No.16122925]

>>16122897
Is space force still trying to justify their existence?

[Anonymous No.16122936]

Word on the street is if Angara doesn't launch tomorrow... they don't have the budget for another attempt this year.

[Anonymous No.16122943]

>>16122897
Someone got paid to write this word diarrhea, there's nothing substantial written there.

[Anonymous No.16122957]

Details on Space Epoch's XZY-1:
* Hop tests in 2024, with water landing (?)
* First orbital launch and recovery in 2025
* Steel structure
* Pad and tower chopsticks like Starship (see animation)
* 7t to 1100km orbit (I believe this is Guowang's main intended orbit)
* 26/year launch capability (per booster? Idk how to interpret this)
* Global "within the hour" transportation

Space Epoch now also also a second rocket on their roadmap
* 100t to LEO
* 100 times reusable
* Interplanetary transport system

https://weibo.com/5658451754/O94rikYzk

[Anonymous No.16122962]

>>16122936
Why wouldn't they? The workers are being paid anyway, the pad isn't going to launch anything else, and lox isn't that expensive

[Anonymous No.16122967]

>>16122962
if it scrubs tomorrow it needs to be taken back to the factory and guess how far the distance is from Vostotchny to the factory?

[Anonymous No.16122972]

>>16122967
Why does it need to be taken back to the factory? Even if it does, why would that necessarily mean a 9+ month delay?

[Anonymous No.16122982]

>>16122967
Yesterday's scrub was due to a value issue that has already been solved. Today's scrub was because of a GSE software issue. Neither of these requires anything to get sent back to the factory.

[Anonymous No.16122988]

Details on Space Epoch's XZY-1:
* Flight tests in 2024, with water landing (?)
* First orbital launch and recovery in 2025
* Steel structure
* Pad and tower chopsticks like Starship (see animation)
* 7t to 1100km orbit (I believe this is Guowang's main intended orbit)
* 20 times reusable
* 26/year launch capability (per booster? Idk how to interpret this)
* Global "within the hour" transportation

Space Epoch now also also a second rocket on their roadmap
* 100t to LEO
* 100 times reusable
* Interplanetary transport system

https://weibo.com/5658451754/O94rikYzk

[Anonymous No.16122993]

>>16122860
Astranis says they can launch 12 of these to GEO in a single launch

[Anonymous No.16122995]

>>16122903
>>16122692
anime wins, as usual

[Anonymous No.16123030]

>>16122866
What is the use case for a GEO satellite in 2024 (Post Starlink Era Year 5)?

[Anonymous No.16123035]

>>16123030
GEO's not desirable for two-way communications but it's still great for broadcasting

[Anonymous No.16123037]

>astranis
Listen, any company with the name ASS-TRANNIES is probably not a company worth caring about.

[Anonymous No.16123044]

So what was the point of ESA's contribution to Artemis? Now China seems like a more reliable partner.

[Anonymous No.16123058]

>>16122988
LMAO
>two chopsticks
they really found a way to make it worse

[Anonymous No.16123060]

>>16123044
Seems like you need to dilate your redditor neovagina

[Anonymous No.16123066]

>>16122866
>>16123030
In any application where latency is not critical it's superior since you can launch a constellation of like 10 high bandwidth satellites and get full global coverage.
>>16123035
>not desirable for two-way communications
wrong

[Anonymous No.16123068]

>>16123044
Maybe biden saw Oppenheimer and randomly decided to use his powers as POTUS to demand JAXAs come with us first.
I’m making this scenario up of course, but it would be absolutely hilarious hahah

[Anonymous No.16123074]

>>16122714
i hate the news industry so much

[Anonymous No.16123076]

>>16122860
>>16122993
cool but who's in the market for mass produced geo sats?

[Anonymous No.16123081]

>>16122692
>>16122903
everyone knew it was going to be a japanese astronaut...but 2 of them is crazy

[Anonymous No.16123085]

>>16123060
nice projection

[Anonymous No.16123088]

>>16122903
if they don't have a British astronaut via ESA im going to go ape shit.

[Anonymous No.16123089]

>>16122567
Oh believe me, he wanted to.
S.C.

[Anonymous No.16123092]

>>16122897
LOE#2 part 3 has some goodies
>spacelift, force reconstitution, maintenance, and logistics of space assets.
WWIII will be fought in space, and we're preparing for it

[Anonymous No.16123094]

wait so the first lunar landing will be a black guy, a white woman, and two japanese astronauts, one of which is likely to be a woman?

[Anonymous No.16123096]

>>16123094
you could do a blasian tranny and we can save mass

[Anonymous No.16123121]

>>16123094
Youre a black nigger yourself what are you talking about

[Anonymous No.16123126]

>>16123094
>the first lunar landing
no.
learn to read faggot.

[Anonymous No.16123138]

>>16123094
>a white woman
Define woman

[Anonymous No.16123142]

>>16123138
MIGAtard detected.

[Anonymous No.16123150]

>>16123142
>>16123060

[Anonymous No.16123152]

>>16123150

[Anonymous No.16123153]

>>16123142
>And other shit people say when their rhetoric cannot withstand scrutiny

[Anonymous No.16123160]

[Anonymous No.16123168]

Staging

>>16123167
>>16123167
>>16123167
>>16123167
>>16123167

[Anonymous No.16123207]

>>16122270
It's a good milestone for anyone to reuse a rocket. SpaceX is getting lonely.
>>16122615
>I thought it was reusable already
Did you ever check how many F9 cores were tossed before they started relaunching them?
>>16122323
>ULA attaches four Electrons to one Vulcan core as recoverable side boosters
It's just that easy!

[Anonymous No.16123220]

>>16122405
TBD

[Anonymous No.16123280]

>>16121555
3-body problem is actually a 4-body problem or a N-body if its an actual solar system with variable orbits. Also, yes; at some point in the early universe when cosmic expansion hadn't stretched space time to the degree it is today and the fact that JWST proved that mature galaxies existed just a few hundred million years after the "big bang", the likelihood of N-body systems being a thing is high.

As to they still exist today, is probable but not a high value of.