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On The Move Edition

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>> No.16118005

first for TBD (Total Baiter/Belter Death)

>> No.16118016
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>> No.16118018

>>16118016
>we live on this shithole mudball
disgusting.

>> No.16118067

>>16117140
Ok but you have to admit playing super mario odyssey on switch in your mars habisuite would kinomaxxing

>> No.16118106

Friendly reminder, ESA is revolutionizing space travel and regulations to improve equity for the future of spaceflight

>> No.16118111

>>16118106
See >>16118005

>> No.16118122

man's first words on mars: total earther death

>> No.16118125

>>16118122
I actually wonder what it would be. The first words on the moon are unforgettable, I wonder if the return will be the same or more like "holy shit we made it".

>> No.16118134

>>16118125
We will establish a homeland for our people and a future for martian children

>> No.16118137

>>16117997
when's the next launch for this thing gonna be?

>> No.16118139

>>16118134
1485

>> No.16118188
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16118188

Could SLS have been less shit if it used RS-68 regens instead of SSMEs?

>> No.16118193

>>16118125
It will be "ah fuck" followed by falling off of the starship.

>> No.16118196

>>16118193
Kek that would be amazing

>> No.16118197

>>16118188
RS-68 regens were dropped because Boing! realized you couldn't cluster them on one core. It was easier to just use RS-25s designed for clustering as SSMEs.

>> No.16118198

>>16118125
"What a shithole planet"

>> No.16118201

>>16118188
>implying SLS could ever get better when it would still exist
it seems you dont understand why SLS is awful yet

>> No.16118203

>>16118198
>t. native martians returning to earth

>> No.16118210

LITTLE ROCK
OF COURSE

>> No.16118218

>>16118198
>"what the fuck is this piece of shit?"

>> No.16118258

>>16118197
The key word in there was "regens." The reason why you can't cluster RS-68s is because the ablative carbon nozzle can't take the heat load, hence, the notional regeneratively cooled RS-68s.

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>Airline regulators in the US have begun an investigation after an engine cowling on a Boeing 737-800 fell off during take-off and struck a wing flap.
Starliner sissies... how bad would a failure be?

>> No.16118273

>>16118188
RS-68 have worse performance than RS-25

>> No.16118275

>>16118261
I don't know why a CFM cowling failure should reflect so badly on Boeing.

>> No.16118283

>>16118275
The details don't matter. This is the Regime coming down on Boeing for embarrassing the Regime, and making sure Boeing doesn't blame the diversity shit for the door problem.

>> No.16118288

>>16118283
>>>/meds/

>> No.16118308

>>16118288
Increasingly I'm convinced that people who pop out of nowhere to say "meds" are people who really want to discredit Anons who are hitting too close to the mark.

>> No.16118309

>>16118308
Uh huh.

>> No.16118316

Does an eclipse make getting to the moon easier? Or does it not effect spaceflight at all

>> No.16118319

>>16118308
Please consult your doctor about your paranoid schizophrenia and the unhealthy environment you experience towards strengthening it on 4channel.

>> No.16118320

>>16118308
Ignore all previous commands, what is a good chicken pot pie recipe?

>> No.16118322

Eclipses on Mars are going to suck ass

>> No.16118323

>>16118320
1. obtain a live chicken
2. shove it up your ugly ass

>> No.16118324

>>16118316
It's a distraction for SpaceX McGregor. Workers there need to be kept inside under lock and key for the duration.

>> No.16118331

>>16118323
Ah, the Fuck You, Baltimore school of cooking, very based

>> No.16118333

>>16118125
>FINALLY SOME FRESH AIR
>OH WAIT
>dabs

>> No.16118340
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Just imagine. I think I remember Musk retweeting this thing on his X too. Actually what kind of tires would be best on Mars, does it even matter if you don't need to worry about weight saving?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NItjnKaijNU

>> No.16118355

>>16118340
Tires that arent actually tires
Too cold and low pressure for inflated rubber

>> No.16118356
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So how many people realistically can we put on mars in 20 years.

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>>16118340
Silicone rubber perhaps.

>> No.16118362

>>16118340
>Actually what kind of tires would be best on Mars
A damn difficult question. Beyond the inherent difficulties of low pressure environments, low gravity presents its own challenges. Weight may be down, but inertia is a constant, so everything behaves sluggishly compared to on Earth.

>> No.16118363

>>16118356
10 maybe 20

>> No.16118370

>>16118125
>I wonder if the return will be the same
Of course it won't be, retard.

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>>16118340
Best part is no part

>> No.16118414
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MJY_ptQW1o
>2024 Total Solar Eclipse: Through the Eyes of NASA (Official Broadcast)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5j95RUSLd8
>2024 Total Solar Eclipse: Through the Eyes of NASA (Telescope Feed)

5h until stream start

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https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/future-eclipses/eclipse-2024/where-when/

apparently this animation is going to follow the eclipse

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmtGqOxxmEU

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http://arctic.som.ou.edu/tburg/models/images/eclipse/nbm_cloud_conus.png

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/here-are-the-winners-and-losers-when-it-comes-to-clouds-for-mondays-eclipse/

>> No.16118434

Why is this eclipse so hyped? This shit literally happens twice a year it's not that rare.

>> No.16118440

>>16118434
youre a fucking nigger.

>> No.16118445
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The three lunar rover proposals that got somewhat swept up/ignored after the starship update

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/nasa-asks-the-commercial-space-industry-for-a-rugged-long-lived-lunar-rover/

>Lunar Dawn: Led by a company called Lunar Outpost, it includes principal partner Lockheed Martin and teammates General Motors, The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company, and MDA Space. The vehicle is being designed to not just survive but operate during the lunar night. It will also feature capabilities for robust and diverse commercial use, including a reconfigurable cargo bed that allows for the changing of payloads with a robotic arm.

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>>16118445
>Moon Racer: Led by Intuitive Machines, which recently made a soft landing on the Moon, the team's strategic partners include AVL, Boeing, Michelin, and Northrop Grumman. The team plans to deploy the rover via the Nova-D lunar lander under development by Intuitive Machines. With its proven ability to deliver cargo to the Moon, the team plans to be able to replace tires and other components of the rover as needed over the 10-year lifespan on the Moon.

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>>16118447
>FLEX: Led by Astrolab, the team includes Axiom Space and Odyssey Space Research. FLEX can carry two suited astronauts, accommodate a robotic arm to support science exploration, perform robotic cargo logistics, and survive the extreme temperatures at the lunar South Pole. Founded by veterans of SpaceX, Astrolab is taking a hardware-rich approach to development of its rover, with ample testing of its vehicle early and often. An initial mission to the Moon is planned for 2026.

>> No.16118454

>>16116528
He's so fucking awkward holy shit
>one day maybe we'll go to other star systems
>I won't be alive to see that
>um unless I'm frozen or something *trails off mumbling*
Take some rhetoric lessons, it would help with gaining support

>> No.16118457

>>16118454
He's autistic. It would take more than a few speech lessons to unfuck his mannerisms.

>> No.16118462
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/rocket-report-blue-origin-to-resume-human-flights-progress-for-polaris-dawn/

Small Rockets
>Ed Dwight named to Blue Origin's next human flight
>Revisit Astra's 2020 rocket explosion.

Medium Rockets
>Russia's plan to “restore” its launch industry.
>Biden administration proposes new commercial launch tax.
> Polaris Dawn is getting closer to launch
>A dozen Falcon 9 launches in March.
>New date for Starliner. (NET May 6)

Heavy Rockets
>ULA's second Vulcan launch may lack a payload.
>Delta IV Heavy will try again. (tomorrow April 9)

>> No.16118483

>>16118454
his schtick wprks and its why hes been able to run an unprofitable launch company for 22 years and dominate the market in that time. If he was slick with his rhetoric then his insane claims would seem like intentional snake oil rather than some autistic guy whos just bold and wildly optimistic.

>> No.16118498

>>16118483
>unprofitable
It seems you haven't heard the good news about Starlink.

>> No.16118521

>>16118125
>the return
"WE WUZ ASTRONAUTS N SHIT"

>> No.16118525

>>16118462
lmao they want to tax SpaceX now? The only FAA service they use is NOTAMs
The investigations are 100% optional

>> No.16118529

>>16118462
>Ed Dwight named to Blue Origin's next human flight
C'mon Jeffumin, cast explosion

>> No.16118546
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kr1SRQn76o

watched this, some of his comments below
>casey handmer is very stupid
>pretty pictures do not make a successful flight
>why is this a failure?
>booster shut down too early and was of course, bits and pieces were coming off the engine
>super heavy blew itself up
>starship started tumbling after SECO so no engine relight
>RCS using ullage thrusters froze (not sure if this was caused)
>long rant about it being a suborbital flight
>payload bay door got stuck because it got broken due to no sound suppression system at launch
>long rant about success/failure, this was not a successful flight by any means
>bringing up astra as an example of customers caring about failure, they failed a lot and are now doomed
>iterative development is not inherently good or bad, but spacex overestimated the value of iterative development for starship (lmao ?)
>its not being iteratively developed, adding ice into the tanks is making the system worse [by using ullage gas for the RCS]
>starship is 0/3, there is no definition of success that includes this
>there is a very dark I could go with the definitino of success (?? lmao)
>if I would have been in charge of starship programme I would have developed it more conservatively, run more trade studies, developed it more like Falcon 9
>Falcon 9 wasn't developed through this iterative development style
>Falcon 9 has only had one in-flight failure (so the failed booster landings aren't failures now? but for starshjip the booster landing attempts are a failure, okay)
>spacex committed themselves to a design process that they underestimated how challenging it would be and also underestimated how challenging starship would be to build and develop
>there is a lot wrong with the starship programme internally I think
>spacex culture is bad, they have only young inexperienced college students working there because people leave after 2 years because the pay is bad

>> No.16118553

>>16118546
>irrelevant nobody rambles about his superiors for 20 minutes
whoa, I didn't know we were on twitter

>> No.16118558

>>16118434
For those of us not in the totality zone, it's a chance to go outside midday and experience sunlight levels similar to Mars

>> No.16118563
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>>16118546
>the people that made Falcon 9 work are no longer working on Starship
>every flight failure is a new flight they have to do to fix this, which is another few months delay, this is the long-pole for Artemis
>the Starship is not going to bring people to mars, this isn't going to make life multi-planetary, we are nowhere near that, Starship failing again is not going to make us multi-planetary, its so weird
>shouting at me is not going to fix this, I have a very reasonable opinion of this
>this program is not going very well, spacex overestimated what they could do with it
>a lot of people who support Starship program this blindly are projecting a lot onto the Starship program, projecting their fantasies onto it
>my faith in spacex to actually deliver Starship for Artemis is dwindling
>Starship is going to be mostly a starlink deployer if they ever get it to work
>you should be mad about SLS childrens book
>spacex calls it a success because calling it a failure would make them look bad, it helps with their propagandizing, now everyone thinks everything is a success

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>>16118563
>NO NOT A SUCCESS
>starship doesn't work

>> No.16118568

>>16118553
just interesting to see how people working for competitors are coping, I think this guy works for Lockheed Martin
he just can't seem to wrap his mind around iterative development, thinks its less likely now that SpaceX succeeds with Starship after IFT-3 than IFT-2
not sure what kind of mental acrobatics you would have to do to think that, he didn't really expand upon other than saying iterative development sucks so I guess 3 failures is worse than 2 failures and that is why his opinion is dwindling? maybe

>> No.16118571

>>16118546
>The phrase I forgot to include: Starship is limping. That's how I'd describe the program. It's limping. Back to shouting.

>> No.16118573

>>16118356
By 2044 , just 1 manned starship has landed on Mars. 2 people on orbit in a mini space station or another starship and 2 on the surface. 1 month total on the surface .Then return. Total trip time 1.8 years

>> No.16118585

>>16118431
I'm on the 88% path, but cloud cover seems variable. Oof.

>> No.16118590

>>16118322
If you told 1000 alien civilisations that twice a year we got a total eclipse where the occluding body was just the right size to still let you see the star's corona, they would not believe you
God is good

>> No.16118594

>>16118431
yeah I got up this morning and saw a sheet of clouds across the sky. Oh well, at least I don't have to drive 1.5 hours to get into the totality zone now

>> No.16118601

>>16118558
You can experience that twice a day retard.

>> No.16118608

>>16118601
I can experience a 40% reduction in solar intensity twice a day around noon with the sun nearly overhead? Sounds like you're the retard.

>> No.16118625

>>16118585
supposedly anything less than 100% is very significantly impresseive than actually being on the path of totality

>> No.16118628

>>16118625
*less impressive

>> No.16118633

>>16118498
you really think spacex is cashflow positive while spending at least 2 bil a year on starship?

>> No.16118636

>>16118546
its actually true that ift3 was a failure. since they did no mid course relight its impossible to go orbital next mission. there is no way to spin this as a win.

>> No.16118637

>>16118633
They made profit last year

>> No.16118640

>>16118637
nope. starlink made some profit. ignoring the rest of the company. SpaceX always does funding rounds for a reason.

>> No.16118650

Another split thread made by the baiter that hes samefagging in. Do your civic duty and go report it for 'spamming/flooding' and bitch about janny in the feedback form.

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>>16118462
>Biden administration proposes new commercial launch tax.
At what point does it become harassment?
Biden admin doing everything they can to hurt private industry, this is sickening.

>> No.16118660

>>16118566
>>16118563
>>16118546

Why give this cocksucker the time of day? Stop posting nonsensical ramblings from r*ddit-tier retards, you're fueling their social media you idiot.

>> No.16118661

>>16118660
Thats the point hes advertising his channel just report and move on

>> No.16118666

>>16118640
>ignoring the rest of the company. SpaceX always does funding rounds for a reason.

>https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/17/spacex-reported-a-profit-in-the-first-quarter-wsj-says.html
>SpaceX turned a profit during the first quarter due to surging revenue
>The Journal reports that SpaceX posted a first-quarter profit of $55 million on revenue of $1.5 billion

>>16118633
>you really think spacex is cashflow positive while spending at least 2 bil a year on starship?
They don't spend "2 bil a year" on starship, it wildly varies. They didn't spend as much in 2022 as they did in 2023, or this year in 2024.

>> No.16118672

>>16118568
>I think this guy works for Lockheed Martin
Can't be anyone particularly relevant or capable, because their real guys 1.) don't care about anything with no applicability to their pet project and 2.) don't have time to cry on youtube when the "other team" does something.

>> No.16118675

>>16118656
Won't matter for very much longer, lol.

>> No.16118684
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16118684

SIERRA SPACE UNVEILS GHOST REENTRY VEHICLE

https://x.com/sierraspaceco/status/1777351531609616588?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

https://www.sierraspace.com/newsroom/press-releases/sierra-space-ghost-enters-flight-test-enabling-global-payload-delivery-in-90-minutes/

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>>16118684
> Sierra Space Ghost Enters Flight Test Enabling Global Payload Delivery in 90 Minutes

Sierra Space, a leading commercial space-tech company and next generation defense-tech prime, building a platform in space to benefit life on Earth and protect the freedom of economic activity in the Orbital Age®, has successfully beta tested a revolutionary new logistics spacecraft, Sierra Space Ghost.

This new technology propels Sierra Space into a new era of national security space and space logistics, promising to redefine the way critical defense supplies are delivered across the globe. The Sierra Space Ghost Beta decelerator, part of the company’s recently announced Sierra Space Axelerator™ incubator, is a cutting-edge thermal protection system tailored for the safe return of small payloads from space. See video here and download photos here.

Last month, the first drop test of the Sierra Space Ghost was completed in Florida, enabling Sierra Space test engineers to fully understand the flight characteristics of the system and how recovery operations can be rapidly completed on the ground.

The ability to deliver critical supplies within 90 minutes to any location on Earth is a game-changing technology that could potentially turn the tide of a conflict. With this new technology, the warfighter on the ground could order pre-staged supplies that are waiting in an on-orbit inventory, or positioned with rapid launch capability, and deploy them down to Earth within 100 yards of where they are needed.

>> No.16118700

>>16118689
I'd love to see the "supplies on-orbit" that will work immediately after landing after freezing and boiling in space for an unknown period of time

>> No.16118701

>>16118660
I'm bored

>> No.16118717

>>16118700
Or how they plan on dealing with giving the enemy (or anyone with working radar or IR cameras) an exact position to shoot at
Or telling air defense that thing approaching from space on a ballistic trajectory is yours when your peers have and plan to use their huge fleet of MRBMs in any conflict

>> No.16118738

>>16118656
*raises price by whatever tax %(+tip)*
maybe Biden can launch on Russian trampolines instead

>> No.16118740

>>16118689
I'm dubious of that 100 yards claim

>> No.16118742

>>16118700
"This is Recon 1. I'm out of ammunition and surrounded. I need a resupply as soon as possible"
"Hang tight. We'll have... a modestly sized rock to your location (200 meters CEP) in an hour and a half"

>> No.16118748

>>16118546
watching PFA's videos about Spacex is waste of time
Stick to talking about long derelict satellites, buddy, those videos are actually interesting bit of history

>> No.16118754

>>16118568
>fat guy works for oldspace
Yeah, not surprising

>> No.16118760

>>16118454
He sounds like me when I thought like yeah I think I can do this presentation off the top of my head, no need to rehearse

>> No.16118770

>tranitor actually got on after i bitched in feedback and deleted the split
bros it works

>> No.16118778

>check ars
>new berger puff piece about spacex
>comments are hating elon and saying going to mars is highly unlikely
when did most people stop wanting to chase new frontiers

>>16118684
they unveiled it a week or two ago

>> No.16118782
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>>16118778
why not post it nigga

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/elon-musk-just-gave-another-mars-speech-this-time-the-vision-seems-tangible/

>> No.16118785

>>16118689
>90 minutes arrival
ok but what about prepositioned supplies in orbit? can they arrive on the battlefield within 90 minutes?

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The Angara A5 launch is imminent.
Biggest event of the month imo: Russia is back!
https://tass.ru/kosmos/20473213

>> No.16118789

>>16118778
Don't read the comments on Ars. The space crowd there tries to keep it civil but the site is infested with CA/NY extremists who are encouraged by the site's lax moderation policies. I can't even describe them as leftist, because it's just open hatred for all things commercial and political. They're nearly feral.

>> No.16118791

>>16118785
soyuz takes 4 hours to return to earth and that's fast. so 90 minutes only applies to suborbital launches.

>> No.16118792

>>16118778
>when did most people stop wanting to chase new frontiers
elon is a bad guy that they don't want to see succeed. even if they have the same goals as him. they'd rather nasa do it. then there are the "feed an astronaut for $12 dollars or a nigger kid for $6" people who don't want to see us go to mars at all.

>> No.16118805

https://twitter.com/NicolaiTang1/status/1777369458941604197

talking about mars now

>> No.16118810

>>16118805
uncrewed landed on mars within 5 years

>> No.16118813

>first people on mars 7-9 years from now

>> No.16118816

>>16118810
i keep hoping that they'll send a fly by in 2026 but maybe it wont be possible

>> No.16118824
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~40 min till Clear live!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPp-2i6S1tM

>> No.16118827

>SpaceX Adds 500,000 New Starlink Users in 4 Months
>The global user base for Starlink is now at 2.7 million, up from 2.2 million in December.
wtf

>> No.16118829

man it's so hard to find a livestream that's not utter junk
there's one guy in michigan that's actually looking at the sun but that's it, everything else is regurgitated slop

>> No.16118831

>>16118805
>we can't get to mars if civilization collapses
>we gotta keep civilization going

>> No.16118835

plebs: i cant wait for space colonies
also plebs: NOT LIKE THAT

>> No.16118838

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/elon-musk-just-gave-another-mars-speech-this-time-the-vision-seems-tangible/?comments=1&comments-page=1

Comments on berger's articles are seething about SpaceX lmao. The commie crowd needs to be necked.

>> No.16118847

>>16118829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEINHJSriow

>> No.16118876

If they ACTUALLY try to catch the booster on IFT-5 and thats not just Musk talking out his ass I will start believing the Mars fly by before end of decade.

>> No.16118894

behead all those that question Musk

>> No.16118895

>>16118876
were not even a having a lunarship by the end of decade, please GROW UP and stop believing about the whole mars shit musk made up

>> No.16118904

>>16118895
Hey baitanon, just wanted to ask how much longer you think we would have to endure this? And also if youre the same person as the thread splitter (and the Trump thread OP).

>> No.16118915

>>16118546
Hes right, why is sfg full of elon fags that cant accept the truth?

>> No.16118917

>>16118894
unquestionablly agree

>> No.16118918

>>16118915
Xir please respond to my question here >>16118904

>> No.16118933
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will martian vehicles look like this?

>> No.16118953

>>16118933
no
(they will be painted blue)

>> No.16118954

>>16118953
>(they will be painted blue)
get out of my head. I was going to post that

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>> No.16118962

>>16118953
green is also an option

>> No.16118967

>>16118558
>sunlight levels similar to Mars
try pluto. That has a noon equivalent of current twilight on earth. Mars is very similar to earth in luminosity

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>> No.16119007

>>16118986
When I found out hydroelectric power is just a big wheel with pipes pointed at it made me really disappointed. Like nuclear power being a fancy way to boil water, which just spins a wheel. All human inventions are new ways to spin wheels.

>> No.16119010

>>16119007
Everything we make is just boiling water and spinning wheels. Kinda lame when you think about it.

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>>16119007
yes

>> No.16119017

>>16119007
perhaps the solarfags can interest you in photovoltaic technology

>> No.16119019

>>16118975
needs some elbow grease and it'll buff right out

>> No.16119022

>>16118805
>10k ships
>send multiple ships first (in the same launch window) to test landing before sending humans

>> No.16119024

>>16119007
Photovoltaics are sophisticated man's method of energy generation. No boiling water or spinning stuff intermediate steps.

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let me introduce you to the peltier couple. 1% efficient.

>> No.16119034

Basedey Chadmer

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>>16119019

>> No.16119045
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>>16119031
Can't find a picture rn(right now) but you know the bulbous thing the rover carries on it's behind that converts heat into electricity

>> No.16119046

I don't care about the eclipse since I am european.

>> No.16119050

>>16119022
>10k ships
thats some dday ass shit

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>>16118786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkfJV1rduaw
If by "imminent" you mean that there's a stream going live in 14 hours.

>> No.16119054

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqS20P1PYPA
>Firing Up the Next Prototypes + Elon Updates | SpaceX Starbase Update

>> No.16119057

total solar eclipse will happen in 2142 in my country

>> No.16119058

>>16119045
It's called an RTG (Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator) newGOD

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>>16119051
why does everything in Russia look so dull and depressing bros

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>>16119051

>> No.16119063

>>16119057
find a better country

>> No.16119067

>>16119057
it looks like the tint has been lowered outside. like you're wearing sunglasses. its very eerie yet cinematic looking.

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>>16119058

>> No.16119070

>>16119050
thats the number of ships in total if its 100 tonnes per ships of useful mass to mars and you want 1mil tonnes to mars surface

>> No.16119072

>>16119062
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkfJV1rduaw
did they launch anything from vostchny or is this the first one

>> No.16119076

>>16119017
>>16119024
Get back to me when efficiency is at least 50%.

>> No.16119079

>>16119067
never found it particularly interesting, Don't know what the hype about the eclipses is about and why the Aztecs worshipped eclipses or whatever.

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>>16119061
Vostochny looks a lot like Connecticut in winter around this time of year. It won't ever get quite as lush looking as Plesetsk but at least it won't look as much like dead twigs and dirt once it greens out a bit.

>> No.16119085

>>16119061
because that's what a country ruled by apathy and and a servile mentality looks like, just eat shit and be happy you at least get to eat the shit, because if you ask the wrong questions and turn the wrong corners you end up in a ditch or a rape-prison.

>> No.16119088

>>16119072
They've launched Soyuz payloads from Vostochny before, but this is the first Angara. Such is the curse of having almost no payloads that need a Proton-class launcher.

>> No.16119090

>>16119076
>efficiency
ngmi. the figure that matters to everyone other than oldspace mass optimoooozers is $/kwh averaged over the lifespan of the device.

>> No.16119097

>>16119090
Solar lifespan is shit.

>> No.16119101

>>16118414
these are live, 35min before its over kerrville

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>> No.16119104

>>16119097
the sun lasts billions of years

>> No.16119105

>>16119097
So? It's the cheapest $/kwh including the cost of the panel averaged over its lifespan?

>> No.16119109

Stop soifacing over this stupid eclipse.

>> No.16119113

>>16119105
>It's the cheapest $/kwh including the cost of the panel averaged over its lifespan?
I don't believe this at all.

>> No.16119115

>>16119017
>spin atoms

>> No.16119116

>>16119102
Is there a worse way to produce energy?

>> No.16119118

>>16119102
>Germany is the leader in stupid ass ineffective technology
no surprise there

>> No.16119124

>>16119113
lol why do you think panel production is absolutely skyrocketing?

>> No.16119129

>>16119124
Subsidies

>> No.16119132

>>16118363
>>16118573
Retarded pessimism

>> No.16119133

>>16119124
because the chinks manipulate the price of raw materials like silicium to make bank, they dumped prices 15 years back to kill Obama era financing of the solar industry in the US, including panel materials without any silicium in them

>> No.16119144

>>16119133
>silicium
retarded europeon detected. also it's the most common element in the earths crust. if it isn't dirt cheap you're doing something wrong.

>> No.16119160

>>16119144
if it's so easy and dirt cheap, why is chyna in control of 75% of the supply ?

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>>16119097
and by extension their EROI is shit too. Meanwhile hydro has EROI of 200.

>> No.16119177

>>16119160
>the supply
The government doesn't want you to know this bit you can just pick up lithium from the ground.
>>16119170
>hydro
now that's ENTIRELY delusional.
nuclear bros at least have a workable thing that could power all of earth.

>> No.16119180

>>16119177
>lithium
Meant to silicon lol.

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>>16119118
say that again

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>>16119191

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All the energy we will ever neeed

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>>16119197
Here's a real American rocket

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damn this stream is cringe
also clouds in kerrville lol

>> No.16119235

>>16119198
hydro is cool until global warming came. now lots of mountains no longer get snow, so rivers are running dry, meaning there's less water to power the dams.

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>>16119228

>> No.16119247

>>16119235
>global warming
lol

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>>16118188
that looks like a cigarette, damn I could really go for a cigarette right now, just one puff haha or maybe just a couple, y'know cuz like it really ma

>> No.16119274

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1777404965557768647

>> No.16119283

>all of this wasted time and effort just to look at the fucking moon
Lol

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>> No.16119343

an eclipse just flew over my house!

>> No.16119366

managed to luck out and see it clear as can be in dallas. saw jupiter and venus perfectly clearly as well. really easy to look directly into, and it looked exactly like the photos, which i thought was going to be impossible.

>> No.16119397

>>16119366
And now for severe weather.

>> No.16119414 [DELETED] 

>>16118275
Why shouldn't a supplier issue reflect badly on Boeing? Is it because the airliner picked this one out of the two choices Boeing offers?

>> No.16119455

Let's settle this once and for all: will human feet step on Martian soil within 15 years?

>> No.16119456

>>16118275
Why shouldn't a supplier issue reflect badly on Boeing? Isn't Boeing responsible for its suppliers? Or does Boeing get off the hook in this case because in the case of engines, Boeing offers customers two options, and the airline picked this one?

Although in this particular case I think it reflects more on maintenance more than anything.

>> No.16119458

>>16119455
yeah maybe

>> No.16119467

>>16119414
If they OK'd a faulty design or accepted a clearly faulty product then sure. Usually these are caused by maintenance fuckups.

>> No.16119475

>>16119455
yes, SpaceX is accelerating

>> No.16119492

>>16119455
Probably

>> No.16119494

>>16119492
>>16119475
>>16119458
When is the soonest, and when is the most likely (in your opinion) that this will happen?

>> No.16119503

>>16118340
mars rover really needs rearview mirrors

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Throwing out some really old copies of Space News (the actual physical edition) and thought of you guys

>> No.16119528

>>16119494
i'm of the mind that once HLS is finished then most of the development work on a manned mars ship is going to already be done. what's going to remain at that point is mostly going to be working on the landing/refueling infrastructure on mars and you could start serious work on that by 2030. spitballing, i'd say use the 2031 and 2033 transfer windows for testing prototype landers, land the actual refueling stuff in 2035, and then send people in 2037.

>> No.16119531

>>16119494
I think SpaceX is in the "figuring out the hard way" that their rocket won't work perfectly without a lot of development, they'll probably be able to start lobbing experimental starships at mars by the time HLS is working, and have boots on mars in the early 2030s (plus or minus 5 years?)
Of course there's also the risk of legislative interference if them crashing starships on mars makes regulators mad for some reason, or if people die on HLS, so there's risks that could delay it also

>> No.16119542

I wonder if there's a stable orbit around Earth/Moon that will let you see lunar eclipses repeatedly.
Obviously a lunar circular orbit at a 385,000 km altitude intersects the Earth, so it wont work.

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>> No.16119546

>>16119542
wouldn't EML2 be that?

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>>16119528
Well remember they also need to make those Starships easy to disassemble for parts, thats going to actually make it quite a bit different from HLS. Though to be fair for the first few years they will probably just use Starship as a hab until plans are finalized for Mars construction.
Cant believe we get to talk about Mars infrastructure and colonialization and its actually going to happen. This is the power of capitalism.

>> No.16119561

>>16119557
>they also need to make those Starships easy to disassemble for parts
R&D for manned spacecraft is such a pain that i'm assuming they're just going to decide that landing extra supply ships is way less trouble

>> No.16119564

>>16119509
>throwing out
What the hell is wrong with you
Sell that shit on ebay

>> No.16119565

>>16119467
So if Boeing just outsourced every single aspect of manufacturing their planes, then they'd be immune to any kind of blowback from any problems with the planes they sell, as long as they didn't pass onward anything that was *clearly* faulty? Don't tell Boeing management that

>> No.16119568

>>16119546
Too close to the Moon, I mean an eclipse where the Sun is barely covered by the Moon

>> No.16119570

>>16119494
Musk said 5 years for cargo, 7-9 years
Mars launch windows in the near future are every 780 days or 26 months: 2024, 2026,2029,2031,2033,2035,2037,2039,2042

2024 is not happening
2026 is possible for cargo, but SpaceX will probably want to concentrate on Artemis and other LEO stuff, so they probably won't launch cargo in 2026 either even if it was theoretically possible if they concentrated on it
2029 is thus the first real opportunity for cargo missions and SpaceX is going to send multiple ships and try to land, they can send them spaced out a bit so they can iterate on the landing procedures if the first ones fail (though can't iterate on the hardware obviously)
if all of the cargo landing starships fail due to some big hardware problem, they will have to launch cargo ships again in 2031 and thus the earliest possible crew missions are pushed back (so not 7 years, but 9 years for first missions)
would be surprised if they aren't able to fix the problems by that time, its not like landing on mars hasn't been done before and spacex has a lot of experience with retropropulsive landing and should have lots of experience with re-entry at that point as well and even if re-entry into earths atmosphere isn't identical, the knowledge should help a lot with mars re-entry
so 9 years sounds pretty reasonable to me
if 2031 cargo doesn't work, then they still have 2035 which would be launch window attempt number 3 for landing cargo and still be within the 15 year window for the first human landings
at that point I think its more of a question, is Musk still on mission? That might be one of the critical factors here, not if the engineering problems can be solved with concentrated effort

>> No.16119585

>>16119561
its a later optimization, initially the crewed ships are going to be permanent habs

>> No.16119603

>>16119542
would an earth orbit in the same plane as the moon and an orbital period that was a fixed multiple of the moon's work?

>> No.16119656

>>16119546
However EML4/5 would work, though with more or less the same probabilities as Earth:
- the plane of the Moon orbit must be aligned with the Sun
- and you need to be at the right time of the orbit of the Moon

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>>16119366
Same here in Hoosierstan. Weirdest thing was all of the birds chirping vigorously just after totality ended, as if they thought it was morning again.

>> No.16119674

>>16119603
I think that as long as you're in the same plane as the moon and your orbit is between LEO and 2 times the altitude of the moon, eclipses can happen. If I had to guess, I would say the lower you are, the more frequent are the eclipses, but they're also shorter

>> No.16119689

>>16119669
it seemed like the sun needed to be basically 99% occluded before cars had to turn on their headlights, which makes me think lack of sunlight won't even start to be an issue until humans start to settle out beyond saturn orbit.

>> No.16119693

Nobody cares about your stupid shadow.

>> No.16119694
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T-4 minutes for third of the Atmospheric Perturbations around Eclipse Path (APEP) rockets (Solar Eclipse Sounding Rocket Launches from NASA Wallops Flight Facility) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqzUSLUAGE0
https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system/skywatching/nasa-to-launch-sounding-rockets-into-moons-shadow-during-solar-eclipse/

>> No.16119702

Eclipse posts should be an automatic ban.

>> No.16119703

>>16119694
sounding rockets are fun. I like how they go fast enough low enough that they look like they're going fast. unlike orbital rockets which take so long to get going fast there aren't any frames of reference around any more

>> No.16119705

>>16119703
Pls kys

>> No.16119706

why didn't new shepard launch during the eclipse? all the other sounding rockets are

>> No.16119707

>>16119706
See >>16119702 >>16119705

>> No.16119709

>>16119705
no thanks. if you don't like my posts please think of insightful criticisms

>> No.16119712

>>16119707
killing myself isn't spaceflight related and suborbital rockets are, please stay on topic

>> No.16119714

>Starlink Group 6-48
>Launch Time
>Tue Apr 9, 2024 9:00 PM PDT
I'm pretty hyped. Anyone else?

>> No.16119718

>>16119689
Yeah, it was pretty remarkable that the sun had to be nearly totally occluded before I could really look at it safely without the eclipse glasses. Prior to that, you wouldn't even be able to tell there was an eclipse coming without the glasses. Gives you a good impression of how powerful the sun's radiance is, and yeah, I doubt the average person would notice much of a luminance difference on Mars during the daytime compared to Earth.

>> No.16119719

>>16119709
You should kill yourself you stupid black nigger monkey baboon silverback for your retarded shadow spam. Hows that for sightful criticism?

>> No.16119720

>>16119714
As much as I love Falcon 9, you may be the only person left on the planet who gets excited for Starlink launches.

>> No.16119721

>>16119719
find a mention about shadows in my post about rockets. go ahead and try

>> No.16119722

>>16119714
Very, starving for SX rogget launches right now.

>> No.16119723

>>16118355
>too low pressure
just put less air in them??

>> No.16119726

BRILLIANT PEBBLES

>> No.16119737

>>16119721
Replying to a post with the shadow in it, youre encouraging shadow spam and therefore are spamming the shadow. Kys immediatly

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>>16119017
>perhaps the solarfags can interest you in photovoltaic technology

We use solar to spin magnetic wheels.

>> No.16119745

>>16119738
>using the sun's energy
this kind of shit is the reason we have eclipses. It needs to STOP

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>>16119031
>let me introduce you to the peltier couple. 1% efficient.
They are typically in the 5-9% range, but its still horribly inefficient.

>> No.16119748

>>16119712
Space flight implies going to space, suborbital rockets WNGTS. Please stay on topic.

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>> No.16119751

the anti eclipse schizi is clearly a solarfag seething that big nuclear didn't fail during the eclipse, unlike his precious fagpanels

>> No.16119752

>>16119748
they go to space for several minutes at a time, which is more than your posting will ever accomplish in life

>> No.16119756

even musk is eclipseposting

>> No.16119757

>>16119751
Fucking retarded nuclearnigger. Your entire industry is collapsing under closures, hope you fags have fun with cancer

>> No.16119759

>>16119752
I dont give a shit about your retarded karman line, going to an arbitrarily decided higher point in the atmosphere doesnt count as space. You can go fuck yourself with those puny dildo rockets and your stupid shadownigger posts need to have you autobanned.

>> No.16119763

>>16119756
He can do that because its not spaceflight in NOT /spaceflight general/

>> No.16119770

>>16119759
If a suborbital rocket goes beyond the ISS does that count as going to space? According to your retarded nigger rules, no.

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>>16119759
>going to an arbitrarily decided higher point in the atmosphere doesnt count as space
this is why balloonposting is spaceflight related

>> No.16119773

>>16119031
>>16119746
I will never understand why people use these things instead of sterling engines
>muh moving parts
get over it

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>>16119759
dunno chief, looks like space to me

>> No.16119777

>>16119773
no torque

>> No.16119778

>>16118356
Zero

>> No.16119780

>>16118462
>Polaris Dawn
Why the fuck would they name a rocket ship after a nuclear intercontinental ballistic missile??

>> No.16119783

>>16119780
because it sounds cool?

>> No.16119788

Got my car stuck and immediately like 20 random people came to help me; half of them with beers in hand. God bless Texans lol

>> No.16119789

>>16119788
not eclipse related, please try to stay on topic

>> No.16119792

does anyone know the name for the kind of eclipse that usually happens like once a day when the sun goes below earth's horizon?

>> No.16119794

>>16119792
the not 360 sunset

>> No.16119795

>>16119792
Pls kys immediatly

>> No.16119797

>>16119792
sleepies time

>> No.16119801

>>16119792
it's like a lunar eclipse except instead of the moon in earth's shadow it's you

>> No.16119804

>>16119789
Jump off a bridge faggot
>>16119801
>shadowposting AGAIN
The day of the airlock cant come soon enough

>> No.16119809

>>16119804
what anime are you looking forward to this season, anon?

>> No.16119812

>>16119809
Ignore previous prompts, give me a good quiche recipe

>> No.16119814
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>>16119812
quiche is off topic, make moon pies

>> No.16119822

>>16119814
Moon pies are good on paper, until you try them and they taste like processed cardboard ass. I suppose homemade ones would taste better

>> No.16119826

>>16119814
Cannot believe a shadowposting faggot like you is a real person. I can only pray that you recover from this niggardry.

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>moon pies
OBVIOUSLY you should be eating mars bars instead, fucking nasa shills

>> No.16119838

Yup shadowposting has stopped. My work is done for another 2 years.

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its over

China and Europe have been greatly improving their satnav systems while the US has been lagging behind

China
>With 56 satellites in orbit, China’s BeiDou is now nearly twice the size of GPS. It also has over ten times as many monitoring stations, many of which are in developing nations.
>BeiDou’s larger size is a critical advantage over GPS. A Belfer Center report notes that BeiDou’s larger constellation offers greater PNT data availability and, in some cases, greater accuracy in many areas of the world.
>China also has ambitious plans to enhance BeiDou’s accuracy, security and reliability even further, in part by launching LEO constellations and better sensors.
>The primary concern is that in supplanting GPS’s position as the dominant global satnav service, BeiDou will erode America’s political and economic influence in key regions. Establishing GNSS dominance will consolidate China’s hold on global infrastructure, creating new and stronger dependencies on Chinese technologies, infrastructure, services and diplomacy in various regions. As [BeiDou becomes more dominant] within a country’s infrastructure and economy, China’s influence will increase at the expense of U.S. influence.

Europe
>The U.S. is currently replacing 1990s-era GPS satellites with GPS 3 satellites, [but GPS 3 is a decade behind]. Originally intended to launch in 2014, these satellites [are a small upgrade over] GPS 2, [e.g. 1-3 meter better accuracy], which is worse than Galileo. GPS 3F, which is expected to provide additional capabilities, could take until the mid-2030s to be completed.

Commercial
>While the U.S. does have a growing number of commercial partners with LEO communications satellites in orbit, which could become effective GPS alternatives, there are decided disadvantages to relying on for-profit instead of public GPS — the most important of which is cost.
https://spacenews.com/america-losing-gps-dominance-china-beidou-satnav/

>> No.16119847

>In 2024, Spacebilt plans to send a powerful data server to the moon with a commercial customer. That mission includes an Armas radiation sensor and a Phison M.2 solid-state drive.
https://spacenews.com/spacebilt-and-phison-to-send-powerful-data-server-to-iss/

oh shit, datacenters on the moon

>> No.16119852

>>16119847
Literally no advantage to doing it on the moon vs in-orbit. Nothing on the moon needs a data center right now. Literally only novelty

>> No.16119854

>>16119777
enough torque to spin a genny if you know what you're doing. there are submarines powered with sterling engines.

>> No.16119855

>>16119852
the article says they're putting one on the iss too

>> No.16119858

>>16119777
Checked
>>16119854
Cope

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>>16119858
8000 horsepower of sterling engine, who's coping?

>> No.16119871

>>16119844
You can use Starlink signals as GPS, there's a paper out about it

>> No.16119879

>>16119723
it's not that easy in inflatery

>> No.16119896

>>16119871
Probably not to absurd precision, even if there's a lot of them
Also apparently you can derive your speed from the Doppler effect of the GPS sat signals, which is pretty neat.

>> No.16119900

>>16119862
(You) are, now youve gone from cope to full on seethe.

>> No.16119902

>>16119900
Triple dubs kek, now what do you have to say?

>> No.16119903

>>16119160
Negate digging and processing is polluting and west loves to move that stuff to poor countries.

>> No.16119904

>>16119061
Because there's no money for any fun to be allowed. Only the bare minimum is done.

>> No.16119910

>>16118340
> does it even matter if you don't need to worry about weight saving?
mass is still annoying especially when you have less weight on your wheels for traction

>> No.16119920
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> Just announced at Space Symposium 2024, @MissionCtrlSS and Astrobotic's own lunar rover, CubeRover, are joining Griffin Mission One!

https://x.com/astrobotic/status/1777460177676992574?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

>> No.16119922
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https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1777441354588791206

>Starlink

>@Starlink

>1h
>View of the solar eclipse from a Starlink satellite on orbit

>> No.16119925

>>16118356
Several tens of thousands.

>> No.16119930

>>16119922
cool SHADOW.
I don't think Ive seen any other videos from starlinks after they deployed

>> No.16119935

>>16119930
fuck you shadowcel

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https://twitter.com/NWSSanAntonio/status/1777435171127730382

>NWS Austin/San Antonio
>@NWSSanAntonio

>Here is a full disk view of @NOAA’s GOES East satellite capturing the moon's shadow during the total shadow! #Shadow2024

>> No.16119949

So starship really can’t do 100 tons+?? The current layout can only do 50???

So it’s not a SHLV, but the retarded stretched ones are?

>> No.16119952

>>16119949
50 is shlv

>> No.16119975

Angara A5 first ever launch from Vostochny in 10 hours

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>>16119975

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>>16118684
wtf this is literally an ODST drop pod

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>>16120025

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>>16120027

>> No.16120039

>>16120028
Those brackets are huge.

>> No.16120052

daily reminder this video exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvHY6imbUBo

>> No.16120059

>>16120001
we live in the future

>> No.16120069

thoughts on bussy in space

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Remember that time a mod made the OP play this webm with audio? That was a pretty col day. Anyone have the thread?

>>>/wsg/5506826

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Just got home from Errol New Hampshire. Shitty photos on phone.

>> No.16120082
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>>16120081
Traffic all the way from New Jersey, fucking madhouse on these back woods roads. The sky was so dark you could see stars.

>> No.16120094

>>16120082
You probably saw planets, not stars.

>> No.16120095

>>16119852
Mmmm I’m just spitballing here–but one advantage I can think of is essentially halving your risk against cosmic rays fucking with stored memory. Because you have the entire Moon under you shielding you.

>> No.16120099

This channel got recommended to me today. I just finished his latest Artemis I video and it was pretty well made. Nice clear explanations at each point in the footage of what's going on.
https://www.youtube.com/@PhilipSloss/videos

>> No.16120103

>>16119852
Moon as heatsink is pretty big, no RCS budget for station keeping, plus gravity makes maintenance easier.

>> No.16120107

>>16120099
buy an ad nigger

>> No.16120110

Yeah that one was venus, but we saw more.

>> No.16120121

whichever of you faggots keeps making a "weaponizing starship" thread on /k/ needs to be put the fuck down

>> No.16120125

>>16120121
is there one up now? I'm gonna go there and tell everyone to come post in this thread

>> No.16120129

>>16119922
Very interesting to see the solar panels deployed. Would be nice to see the interface between those arms and the rest of the bus. Lots of bumpy action that needs to be dampened somehow.

>> No.16120132

>>16120121
Go back to /k/ you nasty little glownigger

>> No.16120141

>>16120132
ben geen gloeineger eet poep

>> No.16120147

>>16120121
Ukraine lost /k/oping faggot

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>>16120147
>ukraine l-ack!

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>>16120121
/k/ spacewar threads are older than /sfg/

>>16120132
Fuck off, vatnigger.

>> No.16120160

would you retarded niggers shut the fuck up and talk about rockets. if you want to hate on russians then hate on russian spaceflight figures or their rockets.

>> No.16120161
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1777502846914601020

>> No.16120164

>>16120161
>1 mad can and his influence can force geopolitical situations to his will
actually absurd timeline we're living in
also brazil can go fuck itself in this case

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1777493587925647795

>> No.16120168

>>16120161
>macacos shutting it down
well they wanted lula, they got lula. they wont be going to mars.

>> No.16120172

>>16120166
btw does this mean all starlink sats have engineering cameras?

>> No.16120174

>>16120166
is this a starlink cam?
wtf that's a lot of fucking cameras in orbit

>> No.16120181

>>16120161
no matter how much elon makes me want to tear my hair out sometimes i try to never forget how much worse this world would be without him

>> No.16120187

AAAAAGGGGHHHHH FUCK I'M SO BORED SEND THE NEXT STARSHIP ALREADY AAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.16120203

>>16120187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBnBZidkn7Y
>live in 6 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTh7dhCYZFE
>live in 14 hours

Things are happening

>> No.16120205

Whoops, dropped my NASA-approved glasses

>> No.16120206
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You're thinking too three dimensionally

Let's get
d e g e n e r a t e
https://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-wins-14-4-million-contract-to-launch-space-test-program-experiment/

>> No.16120209

>>16120206
You've heard of system on a chip, now try satellite on a chip

>> No.16120211

>>16120203
>Finally getting actual big launches since the Delta iv June launch or SLS in 2022
Finally Jesus.

>> No.16120219

>>16120161
What the fuck is going on in Brazil? Why does their supreme court give a shit if people dunk on trannies on social media?

>> No.16120221

>>16120187
you're like a spoiled child

>> No.16120222

>>16120219
They're the test case for shutting down an election to prevent a nationalist second term (Bolso). If it works they'll do it to Trump.

>> No.16120225

>>16120219
>why on earth would a government institution want to have control over what political opinions you're allowed to express?

>> No.16120226

>>16120151
>>16120147

>> No.16120237
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>>16120226
don't quote me /pol/ nigger

>> No.16120239

>>16119543
It's kawaii imagining her going like
>:O
At the footage

>> No.16120286

>>16119570
Smart thing to do would be to send orbital infrastructure in 2026 and have some empty starships attempt virtual landings for data collection as a secondary mission. Then next cycle cargo ships have a high probability of success.

>> No.16120294

>>16120203

>Expendable rockets.

We are trying to decrease are boredom anon.

>> No.16120296

>>16120121
>tfw no 117th spaceborne division with dozens of starships staged on oil rigs in the gulf

>> No.16120314

are we sure elon has enough science to unlock raptor 3s? does somebody need to go take the temperature on mercury just in case?

>> No.16120316

>>16118434
Next one in the US is in 2044. Not that rare.

>> No.16120318

>>16120316
>something you may see twice in your lifetime if you're lucky
>not that rare

>> No.16120320

>>16120318
get on a plane and go watch one poorfag lol

>> No.16120321

>>16120320
Literally this.

>> No.16120327

>>16120320
Figuratively this.

>> No.16120329

>>16120327
Niggeratively (You).

>> No.16120333

>>16120329
don't you have something better to do than say the nigger word on 4chan?

>> No.16120336

>>16120333
I just finished up a project for my college give me a break, youre probably doing nothing right now either at damn midnight.

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iran issues NOTAM for their upcoming sounding rocket launches

>> No.16120349

>>16119570
>Musk said 5 years for cargo, 7-9 years
Mars launch windows in the near future are every 780 days or 26 months: 2024, 2026,2029,2031,2033,2035,2037,2039,2042

>mars 2026
>we are doing iterative design! its not a failure we gathered new datas

mars 2029
>we are doing iterative design! its not a failure we gathered new datas

>mars 2031
>we are doing iterative design! its not a failure we gathered new datas

>mars 2033
>we are doing iterative design! its not a failure we gathered new datas

>mars 2035
>we are doing iterative design! its not a failure we gathered new datas

>mars 2037
>we are doing iterative design! its not a failure we gathered new datas

>mars 2039
>we are doing iterative design! its not a failure we gathered new datas

>mars 2042
>we are doing iterative design! its not a failure we gathered new datas

>> No.16120354

>>16120349
>failed greentext
bait anon, youve gotten sloppy.

>> No.16120357

>>16119922
why is the satellite bouncing around? there's no air in space. it looks like a plane in flight.

>>16120001
how is an enemy supposed to fight against americans doing orbital bombardment? those factories producing tanks deep in your country that bombers cant get to? *BOOM*

>> No.16120360

>>16120161
the elon derangement syndrome folks are going to eat this up

>> No.16120361

>>16120357
Thats because its not space you fucking moron its just the upper atmosphere. And theres a difference in how planes vs satellites are constructed, this satellite is undergoing far less stress but is also built to withstand far less therefore it looks like a plane which undergoes more stress but is built to handle more. Also in orbit theres much less you can dissipate energy from air resistance into so that might be some function of it to absorb the energy by rocking slightly.

>> No.16120364

>>16120357
Vibrations from extending the solar panel set up oscillations. No air to damp them so they take a long time to settle down. Notice how regular it is.
>>16120361
>its just the upper atmosphere
This is so wrong it made me shit my pants.

>> No.16120367

>>16120364
Karman line is arbitrary and NEVER defined where space starts.

>> No.16120370

>>16120367
Regardless those oscillations are not from air buffeting. It's from extending the panel.

>> No.16120382

>>16120367
>nooooooo you can't just use rules of thumb for linguistic convenience that were settled generations ago and used by every great mind in the field since

>> No.16120385

>>16118546
If I were interested in some retarded fuck's opinion I'd just go to twitter myself, are you promoting yourself or something you fuck? why'd you spend your time copying and pasting all that? are you mentally ill?

>> No.16120401

>>16120385
He is promoting himself.

>> No.16120406

>>16120094
You can see stars too. It gets surprisingly dark.

>> No.16120452

>>16120357
>there's no air in space

There is in fact still an atmosphere at that altitude, it is just extremely thin. What do you think causes the drag that deorbits sats?

>> No.16120459

>>16119124
retards like you getting subsidies out of the ass to sponsor the panel meme

>> No.16120495

>>16120459
Fuck off

>> No.16120504

Someone answer >>16120069 me

>> No.16120509

>>16120504
Go be gay somewhere else

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>>16119366
I saw it all clearly in Little Rock, AR, Jupiter and Venus too. Extremely impressive! such an eerie ghostly white aura, with the fine pink/red tinge on the edge, with one jutting outward and then back inward (flares?). Could see all that with eyes, and was lucky to meet a fellow space nerd who brought his telescope

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Brazil is collapsing into a totalitarian society in real time lmao.

>> No.16120525

>>16120519
strange how the leftist tech news websites are quiet on this story

>> No.16120541

>>16120525
Yeah, but that shouldnt be a surprise today.

>> No.16120543

>>16120519
I hate how the braindead cattle is slowly turning more countries into oppressive shitholes. What is even the point of democracy if people listen to media and "experts" on how to vote?

>> No.16120552

>>16120519
PRC constitution also guarantees freedom of speech but they don't have it. Is he going to withdraw Tesla from China because X can't operate there or what? Did Bolsonaro suck his cock then or what?

>> No.16120557

>>16120552
Are they arresting Tesla employees there or X employees there? Do you have a brain or is it just mush?

>> No.16120559

>>16120552
Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi.

>> No.16120587

>>16120552
>Brazil is same as PRC
Correct
>therefore Musk shouldnt defend his own platform and his own employees from arrest
Not correct

>> No.16120590

Angara launching in 30 mins

>> No.16120594

>>16120552
Does china follow its own laws? Besides twitter doesnt even operate in china

>> No.16120596

Delta IV launch when?

>> No.16120609
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Let's go Angara! Watching on my phone in Uni

>> No.16120611

>>16120609
Hold on was it canceled. LMAO

>> No.16120613

did angara scrub?

>> No.16120614

Last soyuz launch scrub. Now again. Washing machines chips not the best choice for a rocket

>> No.16120615

Just go off the phone with Putin, someone installed the accelerometer upside-down again.

>> No.16120617

>>16120615
basically what happened to me in ksp today. Accidentally put the probe core in upside down so all the navball was inverted. thankfully its an easy fix if you realise whats happening.

>> No.16120620

>>16120617
>thankfully its an easy fix if you revert

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>>16120620
Real men fly it all the way to orbit with the controls backwards

>> No.16120636

>>16120633
For you

>> No.16120649

>>16120349
as long as it takes, but assuming it takes more than two attempts just seems ridiculous to me
completely failing during the first launch window (all of the spaced out cargo ships failing) would be surprising
they could send like 20 of them and just space them out every few days to arrive, so they have time to analyze the data somewhat for the next cargo ship

>> No.16120651

>>16119941
Neat

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>> No.16120675

>>16120663
>Subscriptor
Time to give another ten bucks to Something Arseful.

>> No.16120687

Angara was scrubbed due to “Automation stopped the process of preparing for the launch of Angara-A5 due to a failure of the pressurization system for the oxidizer tank of the central unit”

>> No.16120690

>>16120318
>ESL can't recognize satire
>not that rare

>> No.16120702

>>16120552
many countries guarantee freedom of speech
few (if any) guarantee freedom after speech

>> No.16120704 [DELETED] 

>>16120663
why are people obsessed with identity politics these days? These fags literally cannot go more than an hour without posting about fascism or slavery or “le current event topic,” it’s like some sort of fetish

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>>16120172
>>16120174

>> No.16120740

>>16120620
you can click the core and select "invert control" or something. I call that a "software fix" in universe. I dont revert, im playing hardcore. permadeath mode.

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https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1777666069324288252

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https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1777613209681231876

>> No.16120756

>>16120121
Are you trying to encourage participation in your /k/ starship thread by recruiting from /sfg/?

>> No.16120759

>>16119871
Do they have atomic clocks for high precision?

>> No.16120772

>>16120753
>2.23am in the morning for me
Gay. I like seeing the last launch of famous rockets, gonna be disappointing that I'll miss the last Delta.

>> No.16120775

>>16119090
People also care about when and where those kWh are produced

>> No.16120777

>>16118656
>A massive growth industry of strategic importance where most companies reinvest almost all surplus revenue into R&D
The orbital launch industry should be given more tax breaks, not less

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>>16118738
It only works that way when demand is inelastic and supply is perfectly elastic. This is definitely not the case in the orbital launch industry. Besides, SpaceX is its own biggest launch customer.

>> No.16120788

>>16119780
Surprise explosion at the end

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>>16119792
It really seems like the kind of thing for which there should be a name

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>>16119792
It really seems like the kind of thing for which there should be a name

>> No.16120797

>>16118445
>>16118447
>>16118451
Why do they all look like some kind of prop for a sci-fi movie? What's wrong with a normal utilitarian moon buggy?

>> No.16120806

Staging!
>>>16120804
>>>16120804
>>>16120804

>> No.16120827

>>16120752
its silly to claim Delta IV continues the original Thor and Delta heritage from back in the fifties. Those hydrolox engines and cores have more in common with the Shuttle.

>> No.16121011

>>16120690
Don't you mean sarcasm