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[Hereditarian View of IQ and Racial Gaps No.16113703]

There's probably a million threads about this but I don't care. I've reading into the heritability of IQ and specific alleles responsible for intelligence and I've now come to the conclusion that the Black-White gap in IQ is at the very least %50 genetic, meaning that if there were perfect conditions for blacks to grow up and learn in they would still have an IQ of around 93, which correlates with the SAT scores of African immigrants: https://humanvarieties.org/2023/09/06/sat-act-scores-by-detailed-race-ethnicity-2021/

If you're black this shouldn't offend you considering African immigrants in America are on average smarter than Native Blacks, but also Macedonians, Albanians, Georgians, and Montenegrins, all White countries.

What I want to know is how many generations does it take to change a population's allele frequencies?

[Anonymous No.16113712]

Troll thread do not respond.

[Anonymous No.16113715]

>>16113703
Ok but where do you get the data for the allele frequency? Jewgle doesn’t help

[Hereditarian View of IQ and Racial Gaps No.16113725]

>>16113715
https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Intelligence
https://useast.ensembl.org/Homo_sapiens/Info/Index?db=core;r=11:61834031-61835031;v=rs174575;vdb=variation;vf=706423447

[Anonymous No.16113871]

>>16113703
according to your logic east asians are the masterrace

[Anonymous No.16113883]

Hey retard OP. Intelligence isn't what you think it is. IQ means nothing but let fellow men of this world tell you different - failures. Intelligence has modality like predator prey, it's something that's handled. It doesn't have a score. You can only measure mental agility, sporadic nature or scientific ability.

[Anonymous No.16113886]

If you stand up and say 'im intelligent' but forget to clarify that someone young at the beginning of life is capable of becoming as intelligent and thus deserves respect, you lose an intelligent step and are there and then unintelligent. So, do people in this world resemble anything intellectual?

[Anonymous No.16113891]

>>16113712
>>16113871
>>16113883
post hands, bodies, and/or faces

[Anonymous No.16113894]

It goes:

Race: how you set yourself
Nature: how you support yourself
Intelligence: how you sell yourself
Astrologic

Again, intelligence has no score. You either are scored by how well you handle intelligence. Intelligence is all skill and data owned. You can test individual skills, but individually they are not intelligence.

[Anonymous No.16113897]

>>16113894
IQ tests do not test all data I know. The person who wrote the test doesn't know as much as me as for him to write a competitive question. I'm beyond IQ tests where data I know is concerned. And skill wise, all they test is raw memory and really basic two tone pattern recognition. IQ in this world is the most petty nonsense.

[Anonymous No.16113900]

Intelligence is absolutely real, and it is most likely inherited to a significant extent. IQ is probably not a perfect measure of intelligence. It is better than nothing. IQ is far more meaningful as a prediction on behavior and outcomes of a group than any 1 individual.

[Anonymous No.16113904]

>>16113900
Can't buy me fag.

[Anonymous No.16113910]

>>16113900
You can't measure my intelligence faggot. Prove you can measure my intelligence.

[Anonymous No.16114078]

>>16113910
First we should agree on a definition of intelligence.

[Anonymous No.16114084]

>>16114078
The mental part concerned with selling yourself.

[Anonymous No.16114100]

>>16114084
>selling yourself
???

[Anonymous No.16114119]

>>16114100
Lick my Barkun Bootel. That was intelligent wasn't it? Score.

[Anonymous No.16114138]

>>16114119
Take your medicine. Now.

[Anonymous No.16114141]

>>16114138
Oh fuck off you loop.

Kys

[Anonymous No.16114194]

Could we get some genuine discussion about this topic please?

[Anonymous No.16114264]

>>16114194
No. Go back to basedddit if you want "genuine discussion" you fuckin nerd

[Anonymous No.16114273]

>>16114264
Lol you can't talk about this shit about Reddit without muh socioeconomic factors. I want to talk about the hereditarian explanation for IQ differences and why Blacks shouldn't be offended by it

[Anonymous No.16114391]

>>16114273
Tough shit, kkkracker

[Anonymous No.16114633]

>>16114391
Never change 4chan lol

[Anonymous No.16114635]

Could we actually talk about alleles?

[Anonymous No.16115191]

>>16113703
im 25% macedonian and i have an IQ of >135

[Anonymous No.16115213]

Brown people are dumb. Obviously. But that won't matter soon enough, it will all be flicked into a box that closes and our troubles will wither away while we eventually forget what the internet is.

[Anonymous No.16115222]

There's probably some fears you can accomplish. I'd definitely install all frames (you shouldn't do this unless you have no problems incoming). But one frame is enough to reach the prospect of all frames. And then pick up your feats and profit for future life. The chance should stick around but don't forget to claim.

[Anonymous No.16115257]

>>16115191
Awesome. The average IQ of a group should have no bearing on the individuals of that group, and everyone should be should judged as an individual rather than the member of said group

[Anonymous No.16115313]

>>16113703
You're confusing IQ tests with intelligence, IQ tests are designed to evaluate pattern recognition, logic and math capabilities. However, intelligence is a more broad term that can include more things than that, the world is more complex than that.

Put keep believing in a brain power level like if we were living in the dragon ball universe.

[SAGE No.16115457]

>>16113900
That's not quite right. Epigenetics will significantly influence IQ. The more adverse the upbringing, the lower the IQ tends to be. It's not merely a matter of necessity; other adaptive responses such as sociopathy may take precedence.

I'm not saying genetics does not play a role, but at the same time, it does not have such a high influence as you might first perceive. Here you have two ants with the same DNA, interesting how they look and function completely differently.

[Anonymous No.16115706]

>>16115457
It's definitely at least 50%. Besides from the Minnesota Transracial Adoption study there are other studies in Scandinavia in which children who are adopted into affluent environments still have similar IQs to that of their parents which provide good evidence for the heritability of IQ.

There are various studies about certain SNPs that influence intelligence:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5985927/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29326435/

https://www.nature.com/articles/ng.3869.epdf

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29520040/

There's also studies about regression to the mean as well. It's why I think 50% of differences in IQ between races is genetic as well. However genetic does not mean immutable. Certain environments and selection pressures can cause bottlenecking and possibly increase the frequency of intelligence related alleles. This could be an explanation for Ashkenazi Jews' high IQ. I believe the same could be said for the Igbo who are quite successful in America considering their history of emphasizing education since their colonization.

Let me also say that I don't like the over abundance of white nationalists in other far-right loons under the hereditarian umbrella

[Anonymous No.16117028]

>>16113883
It's still something that can be compared against others

[Anonymous No.16117045]

>>16113703
>if there were perfect conditions for blacks to grow up and learn in they would still have an IQ of around 93
Compared to the 100 of whites? Doesn't seem like a terribly huge difference.

[Anonymous No.16117073]

>>16117045
It's not, which is why it sucks that there is such an abundance of wignats and weirdos in the "race realist" community. Even Charles Murray and Arthur Jensen believed that all people should be judged as individuals firstly and that average IQ has no bearing on anyone's worth.

[Anonymous No.16117787]

>>16115706
good post i will take a look at the links

[Anonymous No.16117788]

>>16115257
>t. has never been outside their suburb.

[Anonymous No.16118145]

>>16113703
immigrants are selected to have high IQs dumbass. African Americans are the smartest African demographic in the world at 85 iq.

[Anonymous No.16119744]

>>16118145
>African Americans are the smartest African demographic in the world at 85 iq.

False, that title belongs to Bermudan Blacks who have an IQ of 88

https://humanvarieties.org/2013/05/03/hvgiq-bermuda/