/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.16112193]

why is it considered unscientific and illogical to notice patterns? what would you do if i used a.i to create millions of images that had hidden messages in them, for some agenda, then called you a schizo for noticing the patterns? how do you scientifically differentiate and evaluate real patterns/trends from false ones?

[Anonymous No.16112203]

>>16112193
>why is it considered unscientific and illogical to notice patterns?
it isn't. it's only unscientific and illogical if you latch onto a perceived pattern and don't
>scientifically differentiate and evaluate real patterns/trends from false ones

[Anonymous No.16112213]

>>16112193
I think the problem is when there's faulty generalisation from a small number of samples

[Anonymous No.16112226]

>>16112193
Because it never works.

[Anonymous No.16112288]

>>16112193
Because if you notice patterns, you notice psychiatrist eliminate people. Therefore psychiatrist calls your logic illogical and try to erase EVERY pattern from your head, so you won't be talking about them eliminating people.

[Anonymous No.16112298]

>>16112193
I think the problem is always one of noticing wrong patterns. For example if you create lots of images with some kind of border. An AI would extend this pattern to the real world.

[Anonymous No.16112322]

>>16112193
patterns totally work.

[Anonymous No.16112327]

>>16112193
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overfitting

[Anonymous No.16113103]

Some patterns are OK to notice while noticing others is strongly discouraged

[Anonymous No.16114371]

>>16112193
pattern recognition is an evolved feature of all intelligent creatures

[Anonymous No.16114380]

>>16112193
Conspiracy is unverifiable and that's why people who get paid to act dumb pretend that on a scale of 0-100% there's never any conspiracy anywhere.

[Anonymous No.16114387]

I noticed the pattern that people "noticing patterns" online tend to be 85 IQ schizoids (doesn't apply to this of course)

[Anonymous No.16114397]

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[Anonymous No.16114399]

>>16112193
AI literally work on pattern recognition. The problem is when you notice the baddy bad patterns declared so by the people that rule you.

[Anonymous No.16114406]

>>16112327
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah
>Jewish Kabbalah is a set of esoteric teachings meant to explain the relationship between the unchanging, eternal God—the mysterious Ein Sof (אֵין סוֹף, 'The Infinite')—and the mortal, finite universe (God's creation).
It's perfect.

[Anonymous No.16114557]

>>16114387
>i have zero self awareness

[Anonymous No.16114765]

>>16114557
Please tell me about the elites and how you're so good at pattern recognition anon

[Anonymous No.16114772]

>>16114765
>elites
post nose

[Anonymous No.16114779]

[Anonymous No.16114782]

>>16114772
>it's the joooos
Truly a gifted pattern seeker

[Anonymous No.16114808]

>>16112193
>if x behaviour is so bad, why is it advantageous in a very specific hypothetical scenario?

[Anonymous No.16115999]

>>16114779

[Anonymous No.16116012]

>>16112193
The issue isn't noticing patterns, it's overfitting from too few data points and making spurious interpolations based on the results.

[Anonymous No.16116021]

>>16114782
post nose

[Anonymous No.16116034]

>>16112193
In my experience, overfitting problems occur when you can't be satisfied with anything other than a greater overarching theory.
Most discoveries seem to be made under the latching from a "spirit" of things into minor details.
Intelligence gets too comfortable with a greater pattern and then starts telling you how your "spirit is cured" after they just administered penicillin.
This is how you make people dumber.
Which is funny, because smarter people don't tend to store information like 1:1 data to data, word-for-word, they store chunks and if there's anything missing infer the rest. You eventually loop back to fundamentals at the peak of studying a concept or idea.

The rise of 'scientism' tells me the "spirit is cured" thing happens adjacent not just a decrease in apparent intelligence, but a trifecta of vague expansiveness that doubts or never loops back to elementary things, the downturn of actual intelligence beyond memorisation and employee-creating education (along with institutionalism), and the general drive to react to this with "oh yeah I know this one it's the evil people".

[Anonymous No.16117632]

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[Anonymous No.16118126]

>>16117632
pmt this, doctors are almost completely unnecessary

[Anonymous No.16118611]

[Anonymous No.16120042]

>>16112193
>why is it considered unscientific and illogical to notice patterns?
because jews don't like it when you notice, so they try to use their media monopoly to try and make it illegal to notice.

[Anonymous No.16120503]

What would the president say about all this?

[Anonymous No.16121624]

[Anonymous No.16122924]

>>16112193
>why is it considered unscientific and illogical to notice patterns?
because jews don't like it when you notice, so they try to use their media monopoly to try and make it illegal to notice.

[Anonymous No.16122944]

>>16113103
>Cite sources to feign credibility
>Your own sources don't even say what you claim they say
I'm noticing a pattern of anti-Semites being disingenuous liars

[Anonymous No.16123790]

>>16122944
>projection

[Anonymous No.16123813]

>>16112327
I think this is correct. Obviously the OP is about Jews. Jews are undoubtedly, measurably, "annoying" if you adhere to certain ideas. That is they are hugely overrepresented -- in a manner not explained by alleged merit alone -- in stuff like historical marxism, the rise of things like critical race theory, transgenderism, pathologizing nationalism in gentiles, or even in stuff like onlyfans, pornography, tinder, bumble, match etc.. They are also extremely wealthy, and powerful (e.g. https://rudermanfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Jewish-Vote-Ruderman-Program.pdf )
Once you notice this -- which again in not arguable -- one begins to overfit. You look too hard for the slimy jew at the center of whatever you don't like, and you will almost always find one but also tend to ignore or be too lenient to the gentiles involved.

[Anonymous No.16123920]

>>16123790
M8 you can literally check the sources and see what an egregious misrepresentation this is. They've conflated 1% with "income over $100,000" and accordingly inflated the proportion of Jews in that bracket by 1800%. Project that, cunt.

[Anonymous No.16124901]

>>16123920
>muh 6 zogillion %

[Anonymous No.16125422]

>>16124901
So which mental deficiency are you admitting to here? An inability to follow a link and read a table? Or an inability to do maths?

[Anonymous No.16125432]

>>16124901
JIDF has apparently been defunct since 2014 so how did you obtain a "secret document" from 2020? Furthermore, it never was an official organisation but one man's pet project. You really think they're going to pay people $5000 a month to shitpost when there are people doing it for free?

I guess pointing all that out makes me JIDF so let me just say that I oppose Israel's illegal occupation of Gaza and support the Palestinian right to self-determination.

[Anonymous No.16125437]

>>16124901
>>16125432
Further furthermore, the JIDF was, apparently, virulently anti-Islam and derided Obama as a Muslim so if the guy hadn't been Jewish you probably would've loved him

[Anonymous No.16126103]

>>16125432
>hey goy, jidf doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.16126796]

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[Anonymous No.16127633]

>>16112193
Didn't contemplation, as Newton did, was a pattern recognition? after that he worked on inventing math methods and theory on reproducing and working with it?

Can't we say that AI pattern recognition is more of a contemplating side then scientific?

[Anonymous No.16128433]

>>16112193

[Anonymous No.16128531]

>>16126103
I can certainly find no evidence that they have existed in the past ten years. But of course, absence of evidence is just evidence of a cover-up to a conspiracy theorist. You find it comforting to believe that people who disagree with you on a Chilean alpaca shearing forum are motivated by thousands of dollars per month rather than you just saying something retarded, and so that is what you are determined to believe no matter what.

[Anonymous No.16128534]

Why delete half the thread when the other half is the same shit

[Anonymous No.16128537]

>>16128531
>>16128534
Maybe a shitposter deleting his own post and generating their own "evidence of a cover-up" to strengthen belief in the conspiracy theory?

[Anonymous No.16128601]

>>16128537
>ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!
https://www.psycom.net/paranoid-schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.16129191]

>>16128601
It's called pattern recognition, sweaty ;^)

[Anonymous No.16129911]

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[Anonymous No.16130036]

>>16129911
So do you mean to imply that all Kenyans are Muslim by birth or is this just entirely irrelevant to the conversation?
Anyway, way to carry on the JIDF's good work.

[Anonymous No.16130842]

[Anonymous No.16131715]

>>16112193
Take your meds. Im sure your family is worried about you.
>how do you scientifically differentiate and evaluate real patterns/trends from false ones?
By asking about it from a healthy person.

[Anonymous No.16131778]

>>16131715
>t. can kicker
How do you differentiate real healthy and apparently healthy?

[Anonymous No.16132438]

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[Anonymous No.16132459]

>>16114779
Got me.

[Anonymous No.16132820]

>>16132438
Wow, I guess the JIDF is still around after all, because I don't think anyone else suffers from Obama Derangement Syndrome this bad

[Anonymous No.16132834]

>>16123813
This, once you've found factually correct patterns you'll tend to overfit and ignore outliers.

[Saint. Barkon No.16132836]

>>16132834
Guess what?

[Anonymous No.16132850]

>>16131715
Clearly not you then retard, or anyone you think is.

[Anonymous No.16134053]

>>16132820
Why does it upset you so much that Obama was born in Kenya? I sure hope you're not a filthy anti-Kenyan racist xenophobe

[Anonymous No.16134058]

>>16134053
Why lie would bother me

[Anonymous No.16134061]

>>16130842
What if they, hear me out here, walked.

[Anonymous No.16134266]

>>16134053
The only thing that upsets me here is the tenacity with which you spam complete red herrings even after eating a ban and having it explained to you thrice over how your obsession is completely irrelevant to anything. But I guess a pattern is forming.

[Anonymous No.16135184]

>>16134061
what if they were carried by friendly dolphins

[Anonymous No.16135443]

>>16135184
Why don't they realize that the Americas are connected?

[Anonymous No.16136462]

>>16112193
how can you be considered antisemitic for noticing patterns if noticing patterns is antisemitic? only antisemites would notice your pattern of noticing patterns

[Anonymous No.16137101]

>>16136462
Theres no such thing as antisemitism, jews only imagine that there is because they're genetically prone to schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.16137290]

>>16137101
>schizophrenia
i.e. overactive pattern finding

[Anonymous No.16138341]

>>16137290
AKA insanity

[Anonymous No.16138592]

>>16138341
why is it considered unscientific and illogical to notice patterns?

[Anonymous No.16138985]

>>16138592
there you go again imagining nonexistent antisemitism

[Anonymous No.16139217]

>>16114387
Get lost, you cockroach.

[Anonymous No.16139923]

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[Anonymous No.16140405]

>>16138985
You're very poor at noticing patterns >>16112193