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16101702 No.16101702 [Reply] [Original]

1+1=2 is false because nothing is ever exactly like another thing in the real world.
What math rules are there out there, nerds...

>> No.16101708

>>16101702
>nothing is ever exactly like another thing in the real world.
atoms of same element are

>> No.16101716

>>16101708
no, there are different components of each one
why do idiot basedentists steal billions to make CERN then?

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>>16101716
>different components of each one

>> No.16101757

>>16101724
he might be right

>> No.16101773

>>16101702
Wrong because they can be the same without being congruent
i.e. they are equivalent in their measure.
take for instance the 0 function, the integral is zero now add a finite point of nonzero discontinuity, still zero integral.
Hey you should try reading topology, that might help.

>> No.16101779

>>16101757
so one proton can be made out of something completely different than any another proton?

>> No.16101782

>>16101773
On the nanoscale, this is not true
also zero doesn't exist so how are you going to measure it

>> No.16101788

>>16101779
so one molecule can be made out of something completely different than any another molecule ?

>> No.16101798

>>16101788
what? molecules can have handedness depending on structure. how are you comparing protons to fucking molecules, and why?

>> No.16101808

>>16101798
old scientists thought that all molecules were the same

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OP makes a good point and I've always thought the same.
Mathematics goes so far trying to explain reality but it's obvious it can't be right. Math is abstraction, simplification of reality that works... With a margin of error.
If you go too deep into math, the margin of error grows so much that it's nonsensical to try to apply it to explain reality.
Irreal numbers, really?
1+1=2
You won't find a case like that in nature.
Even 1 H atom + 1 H atom are going to have some unexpected reaction if you "add them together.
There is no 1 thing exactly equal to another. Atoms of a same element will have different positions, entanglements, or whatever different properties that we've to discover yet.
I agree with OP.