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What are the chances of finding complex life forms on places like Enceladus, Europa and Titan?

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>> No.16101732

>>16101628
high if life came to the Solar System via panspermia, for the icy moons anyway.

>> No.16101894 [DELETED] 

>muh alienzzsssttthhh!!!

>> No.16101897

>>16101628
Decreasing chances in the order you wrote them with a huge power gap between Europa and Titan. From what we knof of Enceladus, it has everything, but can only support the biomass of one blue whale tops. Europa, has water, but probably not much else. Please wait warmly, Europa Clipper is preparing. Titan 's a ball of frozen gunk, if it's got life it won't be as we know it. And we now know a hypothesis of life as we don't know got disproven. Which was pretty great as it made some autists fetishizing the existence of such life really angry. Do not even attempt to look this up, it is a dangerous amount of autism.

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>>16101628
why is OP posting pics of an Otamatone.
Here's potential alien life from Enceladus, Europa and Titan

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>>16101959
is this just a deep sea thread now?

>> No.16102457

>>16101907
The deep ocean is terrifying. I don't even want to imagine what is down there.

>> No.16103023

>>16101897
>From what we knof of Enceladus, it has everything, but can only support the biomass of one blue whale tops.
Why? What is the limiting factor there?

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>>16103023
>asking for rationality from people who think comic book plot devices are real

>> No.16103356

>>16101897
meds. now.

>> No.16103363

>>16101907
i wonder how hard it is to make a little ball with a camera and a light which can dive multiple kilometres and then dive up again after some time and send a radio signal to recover it. it seems easy to diy or is there something which make it too hard for a normal person to diy?

>> No.16103588

>>16103023
Not enough energy available:
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/PSJ/aca275
>>16103363
It shouldn't be ridiculously hard do it faggot!
>>16103356
Everyone gets a reply! I'm out until like a month or so.

>> No.16103627

>>16101628
50/50

its either there or it isnt

>> No.16103778

>>16101628
About three fiddy

>> No.16103842

>>16103588
>https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/PSJ/aca275
It does not mention radiosynthesis as a possible driving force.

>> No.16103869

>>16101628
>Enceladus
Infinitesimal. Moon is only a few 100 mil years old and has exponentially less water/geology interfacing surface than Europa.
>Europa
I am 33% sure there are at least some sponge-equivalents in there. Unicellular life there had billions of years, it must eventually have gotten bored of being unicellular.

>> No.16103877

>>16101897
> Europa, has water, but probably not much else
You are one supremely dumb cunt. Europa has an entire dirt ball inside it. It’s the exact same accretion disk material in that layer as, wait for it, Earth and all the other rocky bodies.

What driveshaft fucktards to give their 2 cents on topics they have no idea about?

>> No.16103886

I think Pluto is more likely. Pluto is blanketed with organic molecules and its atmosphere is also full of them.

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>>16101907
impressive

>> No.16103924

>>16103886
Triton is second most likely candidate for complex aquatic life in the Solar system, followed by Pluto.

The ranking is Europa>Triton>Pluto>Eris>some moon of Saturn or Uranus.
The ordering is determined by the size of the individual bodies, under the requirement of the presence of an ocean and a fully differentiated interior that isn’t Ganymedes ice sandwich.

>> No.16103935

>>16101628
You're all speculating about literal fiction. None of those planets or moons are even real.

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>>16103935
>>>/x/

>> No.16103992

>>16103988
Awww, cuddledish!

>> No.16104171

>>16103908
How can that be the most efficient way for it to move?
Is it hopping underwater somehow?

>> No.16104186

>>16101628
nobody knows

>> No.16104580

>>16103869
multicellular life is hypothesized to have appeared as a response to too much atmospheric oxygen. there's no such challenge to life in Europa's ocean.

>> No.16104663

>>16101628
probably difficult without photosynthesis.

>> No.16104817

>>16101628
>complex life forms
we are the only complex life forms in the solar system. if we're lucky we'll find some alien bacteria but that's about it.

>> No.16105406

>>16104580
How can we know? Life could have saturated the brine with oxygen which could still be toxic to the oxygen forming life forms.

>> No.16105627

>>16101907
Is he ok?

>> No.16105693

>>16105406
There's not enough oxygen on Europa to support complex life. This was discovered very recently.

>> No.16105696

>>16104580
>Europa's ocean.
lol