/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.16077932]

The elephant in the room no one wants to talk is the increasing numbers of disabled kids

No one wants to talk about it because if you told the population you have a 5-10% of having severe disabled kid natality rates will drop even faster.

Even young mothers and fathers are experiencing the increased risk of disabilities in their children so age is clearly not largest culprit if it even is a culprit at all.
No one knows for sure but a lot of much smarter people than us are saying that it is most likely the work of some pollutant that have increased in quantity over the last two decades, micro plastics is one of those pollutants that have been brought up many times as a likely source of this but it's almost blind speculation since no one knows for sure how 90% of the shit our industries pumps out into the biosphere actually affects the human body in the long term, the few who might know are either hiding their know for profit or doesn't care enough to spread awareness of it

chart doesn't really convey the catastrophic extent of the problem - to come out of almost nowhere and accelerate exponentially like that without any sign of slowing and without any serious investigation by health authorities is scary and shocking

The black pill that humanity is becoming unable at exponential rate to have healthy kids is too hard to swallow for the "muh legacy" conservatives.

For their mind is easier ignore the problem and think this will never happen to them that try to find a solution

Overdiagnosis theory doesn't make semse as 40% are non verbal and Nearly 78 percent of children with autism have at least one co-occurring mental health condition (Science Daily, January 2021)

https://www.autismcincy.org/autism-facts-statistics/#:~:text=About%2040%20percent%20of%20children,peers%20(NAA%2C%202020

>microplastics
>Air polution
>Weed during teen ages
>Tatto ink
>Paracetamol abuse
>Hair loss drugs

We don't really know
https://youtu.be/j4PTf7LgsIE

[Anonymous No.16077956]

>>16077932
>and Nearly 78 percent of children with autism have at least one co-occurring mental health condition (Science Daily, January 2021)
science daily is not a fucking useful source without even a goddamn link, give me the actual publication
your other links are to a 404 page on the website of an activist org in ohio and a youtube video
there is no excuse for this, sci-hub has been around for over a decade, you can just go get the fucking pdfs of actual papers and post them. fuck off to facebook with this 70 iq garbage.

[Anonymous No.16077973]

>>16077932
Has anyone ever done a study or meta-study linking the absurdly large childhood vaccine schedule to Autism rates? Nope.

[Anonymous No.16078187]

>>16077932
I don't really see the purpose of this thread beyond that OP is likely Spanish (or uses a Spanish VPN) and keeps reposting the same thread day after day for a year or so on /pol/.
>No one wants to talk about it because if you told the population you have a 5-10% of having severe disabled kid
Are we talking about autism or any form of "severe" disability? Because these are two different categories.
>Even young mothers and fathers are experiencing the increased risk of disabilities in their children
Source? I agree that parental age has never been shown in itself to be a contributing factor of autism. It's most likely the result of parents high in autism rates to delay pregnancy into their 30s.
>No one knows for sure but a lot of much smarter people than us are saying that it is most likely the work of some pollutant that have increased in quantity over the last two decades
Not really. If the cause was environmental, we would expect to see a much more pronounced differential along state or county lines as well as along certain demographic groups. I have no doubt that the careless use of antibiotics and prescription drugs could impact off-spring but we would most likely see a significant increase in all types of developmental disorders since for substances that affect brain development, the so called shotgun theory, a single factor causing multiple issues in different domains, usually holds. We would also expect to see physical and brain-anatomical abnormalities.

[Anonymous No.16078209]

>to come out of almost nowhere and accelerate exponentially like that without any sign of slowing and without any serious investigation by health authorities is scary and shocking
Yes, it's indeed shocking that we let the psychiatric profession in conjunction with a for-profit school system diagnose children with developmental problems they most likely don't even have. Since we have no meaningful diagnostic criteria for such diagnoses, other than notoriously vague and fuzzy behavioral criteria, this entirely boils down to "psychiatrist/psychologist says so".
>Overdiagnosis theory doesn't make semse as 40% are non verbal and Nearly 78 percent of children with autism have at least one co-occurring mental health condition
Source the non-verbal percentage. I've repeatedly tried it and ended up with a source from the '80s. Even if the 40 % non-verbal claim was true, this would not disprove the overdiagnosis theory as there is the chance that we are still overdiagnosing verbal people as well as falsely diagnosing people with autism if they actually have something else, e.g. mutism or cerebral palsy.
>Nearly 78 percent of children with autism have at least one co-occurring mental health condition
1. If you screen positively for autism, you're liklely to screen positively for ADHD, anxiety or learning disabilities as well because the diagnostic criteria, again, are similar to each other in practice.
2. Children who go to a doctor or a pediatrist are more likely to end up with diagnoses, including second diagnoses, duhhhh.
3. The extremely high comorbidity rate in autism implies that there is a problem in the definition of autism since "pure autism cases" in absense of other co-occuring mental health problems are exceedingly hard to come by. It's extremely unlikely on the neurological level for things like depression, anxiety etc. to be configurated by three different dysfunctional neuronal modules.

[Anonymous No.16078245]

I could go on with the inane nature of the post here.

It essentially boils down to: Why are autism rates rising? Please note that OP isn't actually providing any proof for his claims. He just asserts, over and over again, that autism diagnoses are legit (despite its connection to several for-profit complexes, for example the school system) and that it is a medically legitimate diagnosis (despite the lack of hard neurobiological data).

OP actually admits that he doesn't know what causes it and by not knowing that, he technically can't verify the legitimacy of the diagnosis. He just asserts, despite not knowing what causes it, the diagnosis' legitimacy as being down to some causal vector. According to him, we would only have to find out the cause of a thing whose existence is actually down to a process that explicitly rests on its cause being unknown. In other word, it must be assessed and diagnosed based on behavioral and not on biological criteria.

Consequently, OP will be unable to prove the following things:

That autism actually exists.
That autism rates are rising for a reason any other than more doctors label and diagnose kids with autism.
That behavioral criteria for autism are stable and that there is a true, in example physically real, autism criterion that is not a convention.
That the rise in autistic behavioral presentation isn't due to already known issues whose proper diagnostics may be prevented precisely because of autism's cultural dominance.

On the other hand, OP assumes the following things:

That psychiatrists and psychologists are honest about the way they diagnose things and aren't subject to industrial things (which you know motivates them to diagnose more rather than less)
That autism is a coherent physically real thing that we know exists (OP contradicts himself here)

[Anonymous No.16078429]

>>16077932
Ever considered better testing? In the past:
>yeah, that's my uncle, he doesn't get along with people and he knows every part number Citroën produced between 1950 and 1967 but that's just how he is.
Today he would get diagnosed with autism at the age of 7.