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RETVRN edition

Previous: >>16047495

We discuss research, DO NOT offer advice (just fucking go see your doctor), make fun of premeds and shitpost.
Keep vaccination/clamping/vitamin K/soliciting advice out of this thread and start your own because it takes a lot of space.

>> No.16067260

>Match Week (March 11 – 15, 2024). Match Week begins at 10:00 a.m. ET on Monday, March 11, when residency applicants learn if, but not where, they have matched to a residency training program. Unmatched or partially matched applicants may participate in the NRMP’s Supplemental Offer and Acceptance Program® (SOAP®), conducted Monday through Thursday of Match Week (March 11 – 14, 2024).

i cannot wait to see meddit have their annual meltdown. all the gungho anesthesia and radiology antisocial weirdo applicants are gonna SOAP into FM

>> No.16067285

>>16067260
>learn if, but not where, they matched
why?

>> No.16067295

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/12/2/194
Thoughts?

>> No.16067923

Dead profession, dead thread. Here comes AI, baby.

>> No.16067965
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Can you fucks do some research and find a fix for the common cold already? Lazy twats

>> No.16067969

>>16067965
Soiyentists never produce good stuff, it's all fagery, made to suppress the populous and prop up the rich and famous. smb

>> No.16068017

>>16067965
>>16067969
As a doctor, I've had it up to here with clueless, entitled fuckwits like you who think medical research is as simple as pulling a cure out of our asses. Do you have any idea how complex the common cold is, you absolute dunce? It's caused by over 200 different viruses, each with their own unique characteristics and mutations. We're not just sitting around with our thumbs up our asses, you ungrateful prick. Scientists and doctors worldwide have been busting their balls for decades trying to find effective treatments and preventative measures. But it's not like waving a magic fucking wand and making it all disappear, you dimwitted cock-juggler.If it were that easy, don't you think we would have done it already, you dense motherfucker? We're dealing with rapidly mutating viruses that evolve faster than your pea-sized brain can comprehend. It's a constant battle to keep up with these microscopic bastards.So before you start running your mouth and calling us lazy twats, why don't you take a moment to appreciate the hard work and dedication of medical professionals who are actually trying to make a difference, unlike your whiny, good-for-nothing ass. If you think you can do better, by all means, put on a lab coat and get to work, you fucking imbecile.

Until then, sit down, shut the fuck up, and let the experts handle it. We'll find a fix when we find a fix, and not a moment sooner, you impatient, ungrateful waste of space.

>> No.16068098

>>16066876
Why do people pretend medicine is science? There's mathematics and science that informs medicine (e.g., molecular biology, chemistry, statistics and hypothesis testing) but medicine itself is a practice not a science.

Does it ever bother you when people are asking MD students to be "scientists" when that's just not the important part of an MD compared to developing clinical practice expertise?

>> No.16068225
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16068225

Got the highest grade in the class on my immuno exam

>> No.16068229

>>16068225
Got the highest grade in my class on being a fag

>> No.16068234

>>16068229
Oh, you must be studying gastroenterology.

>> No.16068563

>>16068234
Why not proctology or urology? I think you missed the mark on your insult.

>> No.16068576

>>16068563
Nah, gastroenterologists are depressed fags. Try again.

>> No.16068583

>>16068576
I mean, anyone in medicine is probably either a depressed fag or an open fraudster. I don't see what makes gastros any worse than anyone else.

>> No.16068591

>>16068583
The dealing with shit and peoples assholes part

>> No.16068597

>>16068591
That's literally what a proctologist does all day. Their whole job is to study assholes and shit.

>> No.16068599

>>16068583
>t. outside observer

>> No.16068604

>>16068599
Yeah senpai. I've got a PhD not an MD. I don't know shit about treating patients, but I can tell a hack study when I see one, and my god to doctors make terrible scientists.

>> No.16068611

>>16068604
>Help! Is anyone here a doctor??
>Ye-...nope.

>> No.16068621

>>16068611
Someone's gotta treat patients, and I'm glad that someone is you rather than me. I don't begrudge you for your MD, any more than I hope you wouldn't begrudge me for my research focused degree.

If we are being honest though, doctors can be miserable sods. The few I've seen that aren't totally gobsmacked by how difficult and complicated properly "science based" medicine is, are the ones who've given up all pretense of being scientific and are just going on "clinical experience" and hopes and prayers.

>> No.16068628

>>16068621
Difference in passions, I suppose. I can't get enough of diseases, so it makes sense for me to be an MD that can also provide clinical research on infections.

>> No.16068650

>>16068597
Which is why they're even worse, but GE still gets their fair share

>> No.16068658

>>16068628
> I can't get enough of diseases

Ah! So an MD and a bug-chaser! Who could have possibly seen the overlap coming :^)

>> No.16068817
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16068817

Are doctors trustworthy?
>used to endorse cigarettes, pic related
>used to perform lobotomies
>used to prescribe thalidomide and valproate to pregnant women, which caused birth defects
>used to perform blood-letting
Of course modern medicine has had many successes, but it continues to have harmful failures.

According to the article linked below, warnings about the birth defects caused by valproate weren't added to some boxes until 2016. Which is why there have been women in the last few decades who have had children with birth defects caused by sodium valproate prescribed by their doctors.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68215937

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16068825

Just learned I'll be a future cutter today. Can I start bullying the medicine nerds now?

>> No.16068855

All memes aside is nursing a good career to go into? Eurofag btw

>> No.16068857

>>16068658
Lol not like that, anon.

>> No.16068933

>>16068017
>that retarded butthurt response
the solution to the common cold is literally
>do nothing
it works 99% of the time. That's pretty based success rate as far as interventions go

the 'do nothing' miracle treatment works for a lot of conditions. IMO it's the best treatment - ofc sometimes it's insufficient and other stuff are warranted too, but still. What other treatment boasts such a high success rate and low cost?
>DONT JUST DO SOMETHING, STAND THERE
lmao, based. I love that slogan
>>16068817
doctors are trustworthy, but they are very naive and almost completely captured by the pharmaceutical industry/big capital
this valproate thing is the tippity top of the iceberg

>> No.16068946

>>16067260
what is it about anesthesia
>repetitive
>same small handful of drugs
>same small handful of procedures
>extremely sick patients with terrible prognosis
>alcoholics, junkies
>no patient contact
>no follow up
>no real history taking
>some other specialty calls the shots anyways

what attracts people to the specialty, i am seriously asking. Maybe I'm retarded but I fail to see the appeal. It's very important but it feels like it's grunt work

>> No.16068955

>>16068946
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. also, some people like doing the same thing everyday and not needing to know 10million things

>> No.16068961

>>16068946
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>> No.16069018

>>16068946
if you ever want to feel depressed about your earnings, look at what anesthesiology groups bill hospitals
they will probably be the last insourcing holdouts

>> No.16069031

>>16068946
>what attracts people to the specialty, i am seriously asking

reddit loves it cuz you get to be antisocial and you're never the alpha in the room (the surgeon gets to boss you around)

also, money and "lifestyle" even though it requires taking call to make the money that redditors brag about

>> No.16069112

>first day on away today
>someone walks into the OR and starts talking to me
>to make small talk, ask him “what year residency are you in?”
>mfw he’s the program director
So awkward. I apologized but it was weird. Am I fucked for this program? Lol

Tbf he looked really young and all the attendings I’ve seen in this specialty are old af

>> No.16069168

>>16068946
Maybe it's good for people who like pharmacology

>> No.16069173

Should I go into optho(4 year residency) or derm (5 years)?
I’m finishing my intern year and can’t decide. EU ( poland ) btw

>> No.16069293
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>>16068855
Psych RN here yet again. I'll answer your question.

>is nursing a good career to go into? Eurofag btw
If you are in the US, then yes it is a great career in basically every way. In Europe though, not really. Nurses in Europe are basically just PCTs/CNAs. I don't even think nurses there can pass meds or do most nursing skills that are done in the US, besides wiping asses, but maybe an anon who works in European healthcare can add more to this. Your best bet is to pretend to be Filipino and migrate to the US like every other nurse that lives in any other country.

>> No.16069296

>>16069293
It used to be good in europe since you didn't have to touch shitskins, but since Europe is a nigger shithole like America now, it makes zero difference between the two.

>> No.16069307

>>16068825
depends on what sort of scapelnigger
congrats though

>> No.16069346

When I tell my dog to sit he sits
When I tell my dog to drop he drops
When I tell my dog to shake he shakes
Am I wrong for thinking my dog is more intelligent than a typical non-verbal autist?

>> No.16069352

Btw I'm a bit confused about the difference between Augmentative and Alternative Communication and Facilitated Communication
Basically I'm wondering whether
1. there is a spectrum of non-verbal ability, some can communicate their needs and wants through AAC and others cannot
2. all non-verbal autists can use AAC but to varying degrees and also parents are missing out on the opportunity by using FC instead of AAC

>> No.16069363

>>16069173
im biased toward ophthalmology so i'd recommend that, but what do you want to deal with? what are the salaries like between them in EU? which one can you get into? etc etc

>> No.16069487
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16069487

>>16069307
Gen surg
Fuck ortho, the pathology is fucking boring

>> No.16069569

>>16068825
>>16069487

I wish you a long and fruitful career of being a meat mechanic. Congrats on the getting in!

>> No.16069679

>doing practice questions for my national optometry test in less than a week
>keep getting all the simple questions wrong for retarded reasons
i hope i dont make these simple mistakes during the test...

>> No.16069681

>>16069679
optometry isn't that hard...
you only need to know shit about the eye
think about ALL the FMs who have to know everything about the human body

>> No.16069692

>>16069681
>only need to know shit about the eye
i wish, but yes we mostly care about ocular signs/symptoms for most diseases.

>> No.16069698

>>16069692
>muh diabetes and hypertension affect eye
not exactly rocket science

>> No.16069699

>>16069698
>he forgot high cholesterol
i dont think you have the makings of a healthcare provider, anon. maybe naturopathy is your calling?

>> No.16069701

>>16069699
optometrist is seething lol

>> No.16069705

>>16069701
just having a bit of fun

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he accidentally left a glove in your brain sorry

>> No.16069728

>>16069717
I once had a scrub murse, who was bragging about his military experience, get in an argument with the scout nurse about counting sponges. He didn't need to be double-checked according to protocol because "I CAN KEEP COUNT MYSELF". Embarrassing. Never be a murse.

>> No.16069744

>>16069728
That's why if there's a botched operation families execute doctors and nurses in China I guess.
https://youtu.be/cMjyNO1AyO0

>> No.16069967

Whenever I try to study something, (as opposed to just reading it) regardless of the time of the day I get an inflammation inside my brain.
I'll go to the doctor tomorrow, will an electroencephalogram suffice to find the cause? I hope they find the cause and don't try to just hook me up on analgesics or antibiotics.

>> No.16069999

Okay paitent: 35 year old female, has recently had a lap band removed, had a gastric artery hemorrhage, possibly from band eroding into artery and possibly torn during laparoscopic surgical removal, this was repaired after 2 days after surgery endovascularly when hemoglobin levels fell to 8mg/dl and CT showed the damage in the gastric artery, vasocasmisne was given iv with sodium and small daily heparin which was moved to SC that ended up being 15000 units 3 times daily, 1 week into renal recovery creatinine levels normalized but still high in addition to k na etc. Hemoglobin was back to around 11, patient was released then remadittedd 2 days later complaining of abdominal pain which CT showed to be abdomibal hematoma. Questions: could this hematoma be a mistake on CT reads. Could this be due to dosage of sc heparin, what course of action would be recommended?

>> No.16070003

>>16069999
Also had 6l of blood last Friday. Could this alter the lab work? I hear it's falsely elevated by aprox 1 mg per bag per dl

>> No.16070008

>>16070003
Vascular sug BTW. Possibl gastric artery aneurysm presented as hematoma on CT? Fuking radio lol

>> No.16070021

>>16068017
Ever heard of event 201 there doc? Ever seen viruses mutate under a 2000x vet scope? How do you know your glorious hospital isn't just slamming every single idiot with rod gram plus cause the engineers were to cheap to seal a vacuum? Those oxygen units may as well be a creek in a trailer park with a bendy staw..putting your trust in the advancement of pathology in airgas...how's the mold problem? you can see that if you took off those reading glasses

>> No.16070224

>>16068933
Oh you fucking brainlet, your "do nothing" bullshit is the most retarded cope I've ever heard. You think letting a virus buttfuck your immune system while you sit on your ass is "based"? Fuck off with that low T basedboy mentality.
99% success rate my ass. I bet you pull your stats straight out of your wife's boyfriend's cum-stained asshole. The common cold mutates faster than your two braincells can comprehend. By the time your lazy ass recovers from one strain, you'll be tongue-punching the dirt from the next.
You know what has a real based success rate? Modern fucking medicine. Yeah, Big Pharma are greedy Jews, but at least they're out there sciencing the fuck out of shit to keep your pathetic ass alive. Popping some DayQuil and getting on with your life is infinitely more chad than your "lay down and rot" bullshit.
But please, keep preaching your cuck "do nothing" gospel. More Darwin Awards for the rest of us. While you're busy deepthroating Kleenex and watching your wife getting dicked down by Jamal, the real men will be out here getting shit done.

>> No.16070231

>>16070224
yummy pasta

>> No.16070232

>>16070021
Alright, you absolute waste of chromosomes,
I'm not even going to dignify your "Event 201" bullshit with a response. That's the kind of low-IQ garbage I'd expect from someone who probably thinks the Earth is flat and 5G causes autism.
You think you're hot shit because you watched a virus squirm around under a microscope once? Congrats, you've achieved the same level of scientific understanding as a middle school biology student. Meanwhile, I've spent years studying these little bastards, watching them evolve and adapt in real-time. But please, regale me with more of your infinite wisdom gleaned from the cesspool of human intelligence that is 4chan.

And don't even get me started on your laughable attempt to critique hospital infrastructure. You wouldn't know a properly sealed vacuum system if it bit you on your pasty, unwashed ass. Our equipment is maintained and sterilized to standards that would make your pathetic little mind spin. But hey, if you want to entrust your health to some back-alley quack with a rusty scalpel and a bottle of moonshine, be my fucking guest.
Oh, and nice try with the mold insult, you sentient skidmark. Our facilities are cleaner than your browser history. The only mold here is the one growing between your ears, slowly devouring the last remaining scraps of your cognitive function.
In conclusion, kindly fuck off back to the primordial ooze from whence you came. The adults have work to do

>> No.16070300

>>16069293
Do you like psych? I'm the anon who was posting about going to nursing school in the last thread. Psych is appealing to me, especially working with addicts. Sounds easier than med surg at least

>> No.16070428

>>16069293
..and who's gonna give meds to the dementia patient who takes fifteen minutes to have their meds hidden in yoghurt slowly fed to them or the really ill patient who needs 3 IVs given by push that take 3-4 minutes each if the yuropean nurse isn't? The interns???

>> No.16070446
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16070446

>terbinafine (oral)
Would taking it with high fat meals improve absorption?
What if I sometimes have fatty diarrhea? Would it be a bad thing then, as the terbinafine would get all bound to the fat and then sharted our instead of absorbed?
Thanks.

>> No.16070613

>>16070300
>working with addicts is appealing to me
wtf are you a masochist?

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>>16070300
>Do you like psych?
>Sounds easier than med surg at least
Yeah, it is really good. No IVs, no NG tubes, no trach care, none of that retarded shit so you don't need to worry about that stuff really. I maybe do a foley on a meemaw every blue moon but that's really it. Just PO and IM meds for the most part. The tradeoff, however, is that you need to git gud at de-escalation and just talking to pts in general. Recognizing mental queues, not letting yourself be manipulated, what to say and when to say it. Also you will always be at risk of violence in BHU, so you will have to learn how to take down aggressive patients. You will be trained in all of this if you decide to go ahead with psych, but that is what you have to ask yourself before going into psych. Are you able to handle anything a patient says and not let it get to you? Are you able to circumvent power struggles? Are you fine with there always being a significant risk of being attacked? If so, then yes it is way easier than med surg.

>>16070428
>the really ill patient who needs 3 IVs given by push that take 3-4 minutes each
Sorry MD-kun, but there is not one nurse who will push an IV med for 3-4 mins. Maybe 30 seconds at most. Far too many patients to wait a whole 5 ish mins for one IVP.
>The interns???
Why not? I knew a doc that liked inserting IV and pushing his own meds every now and then. It was pretty cool to see.

>> No.16070860

>>16069346
They are so cute though

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>non verbal autistic people are like dogs that are humans, so you could fuck them
>But they couldn't give consent so you wouldn't know off they're okay with it or what their sexual orientation even is
At least girls can't fuck him either

>> No.16070908

>>16070446
>What if I sometimes have fatty diarrhea?
eat more fiber or enjoy diverticulosis in your 50s

>> No.16070969

Anyone got the match/SOAP unfilled positions list?

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>>16070908
thanks
my fav wrestler (kenny omega) is out currently with diverticulitis, almost died, and it happened to Brock lesnar too, so that's something I've been thinking about recently
Will think about dietary modifications going forward

but for now in terms of increasing the absorption of these terbinafine tablets im about to take for my scalp fungal infection, would i take with fatty meals? or don't worry about it, any meal will do?

>> No.16071071

>>16071050
looks like kaczynski

>> No.16071393

>>16066876
How is it possible for obscure gi bleeding source and swollen lymph nodes on examination to be missed by both mr and ct enterography? Also patient has relative lymphocytosis, neutropenia, platelet anisocytosis and signs of sudden onset hyperandrogemia (unexplained muacle gain, painful gynecomastia, severe cystic acne and slight hirsutism)

>> No.16071399

>>16071393
how big are lymph nodes? how much bleeding are we talking?
MR and CT aren't magic m80 - they have different sensitivities and specificities for finding things

>> No.16071407

>>16071399
Melena on each defecation (sometimes copious) with signs of obstruction and sub navel severe abdominal pain, occasional coffee ground vomiting and few episodes of hematochezia. Lymph nodes visibly enlarged (but not disfiguring) in cervical and subclavicular area, illeocecal were merely felt, all hard and transiently painful

>> No.16071424

>>16067260
EM has already rebounded, only 130 soap spots instead of 500+
Peds is the new dumpster fire, the number of soap spots tripled
FM and IM both went up as well

>> No.16071436

>>16071424
what happened with anaesthesia

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16071766

how did we go from shut-in personality to schizophrenia lol

>> No.16071782

>>16071407
The person you're replying to isn't med and they learned off of YouTube and TikTok

>> No.16071982

>>16071407
>>16071393
Go see a doctor faggot.

>>16071424
Sort of? The void is filled with IMG fags desperate to get into America, and DO bros who don't want to do IM/FM, but aren't competitive enough applicants to do anesthesia, or other specialties, per my friend who's Chief at a EM program

>> No.16072083

>>16071436
no one knows yet but probably the most competitive year ever for anesthesia

it'll probably tank 4-5 years from now. hospitals literally cannot afford to keep paying both CRNAs and anesthesiologists. old school anesthesiologists work 55 hours a week with call while the newer docs want a 3 day a week lifestyle

>> No.16072232

>>16072083
>>16071436
It's a combination of all the boomer anesthesia docs retiring because of COVID burnout and EM suiciding with that dumbass report so all the EM prospects started chasing Anesthesia instead

>> No.16072237

>>16072083
what do you think will happen? I know people used to piss their pants about CRNAs taking Anesthesia jobs but that hasn't really seemed to be the case plus CRNAs get paid so much they aren't even really cheaper.

>> No.16072245

>>16068946
>no patient follow-up because it's not your patient
>don't have to deal with insurance BS
>relatively routine
>can multi-task if everything is stable
>pharmacology/physiology if you're into that
>outside of call when you're out of work you're done
>get a comfy chair
>tons of money without the stress of a surgery residency or the competitiveness of derm

>> No.16072305

What are the most effective antidepressants with the least amount of side effects?

>> No.16072481

>>16072305
Going outside

>> No.16072946

can metopimazine be safely associated with ketamine

>> No.16072958

>>16072237
>I know people used to piss their pants about CRNAs taking Anesthesia jobs but that hasn't really seemed to be the case

nah
however, the 1:4 supervisory rolemodel is becoming outdated. you have anesthesiologists that sometimes monitor 6 CRNAs at once now

>> No.16072985

>>16072958
why not just make more doctors?

>> No.16073145 [DELETED] 

>>16066876
Step 1 in 5 weeks, did nbme 28 3 weeks ago and got 56%, did nbme 29 and got 52%, is it joever bros?

>> No.16073150

step 1 is in 5 weeks, did nbme 28 3 weeks ago and got 56%, did nbme 29 today and got 52 %, is it joever bros?

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About 2 years ago I was peeing dark orange to brown colored urine, I was a manager at a fast food place at the time and would eat the ice cream there every single day. Eventually I stop eating the ice cream and started drinking more water because I figured the urine problem was related to the ice cream I was consuming. The urine color went back to normal afterwards but now I have pain in my upper left abdomen, did I fuck up my kidney or get diabetes from all the ice cream? Shits fucked man, sometimes I wonder if I should just walk into the emergency room and have them check what's wrong but I'm afraid of the bill.

>> No.16073284

>>16066876
>We discuss research, DO NOT offer advice (just fucking go see your doctor), make fun of premeds and shitpost.
Hello ESL faggot who shouldn't be allowed in the country or to study/practice medicine. Nobody refers to this as "advice". Advice is akin to guidance and most people from a first world shit hole would instead immediately assume advice in the context of /med/ means USLME, residency, school, career and other questions automatically. You don't because English isn't your first language and having answered a question to your third world brain means you "they have been advised". Do not answer personal medical questions or speculate on them if you really wanted to split hairs is better. Thanks for making things harder for the rest of us and depressing our salaries. You'll never be a real doctor.

>> No.16073307

>>16073284
>not wanting to give third worlders shit advice so they die
whats the point in being a medical professional if i cant cull those i deem unworthy?

>> No.16073355

>>16072985
they already are, retard
new for profit DO schools open every year, ready to pump out FM doctors by the truckload
HCA is also opening as many for profit residencies as they can

>> No.16073426

>>16073355
why more DO schools and not MD schools? does it cost that much more to get new MD schools approved?

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https://www.litsolutions.org/

>> No.16073440

>>16073284
rough day buddy? a stress ball is a more healthy

>> No.16073517

>>16073426
>why more DO schools and not MD schools?
much more lenient accredidation requirements that have only loosened in recent years. DO schools that used to be on probation are now on regular or even "exceptional" accredidation despite still having a lot of issues. DO schools can start with significantly larger class sizes AND are not as limited by class size expansion

many DO schools also do not have home hospitals or enough clinical affiliates, and will force students to move out of state for 3rd year rotations. my school is fortunate to have all local rotations, though scheduling 4th year is completely on our own with no help

>> No.16074076

Punch walls instead

>> No.16074090

Such was the conviction of the healing brought about by bloodletting that
‘haematomania’ reigned despite a suspicious degree of mortality. Indeed, it may
have even killed inaugural US president George Washington in 1799: on develop-
ing laryngitis he was enthusiastically bled four times by his personal physician,
and died 24 hours after symptom onset.
Eventually, the credibility of this practic

>> No.16076593

Today (in the morning) I peed about 5 times in 4 hours way more than I drank the night before, not drinking more than 250ml in the 4 hours timeframe. They were good color except for when towqrds the end I'd jerked off so the stream was sparkling either from that or sugar or white blood cells from the reaction to the drinking
The pee I took while I was drinking (and after) mells okay though. The pee I took there was about as much as I put in as well

>> No.16076619

I also didn't get asthma/pruritis afterwards but I think the drink has (in addition to caffeine) some natural histamine action in it and my body fully processed the drink

>> No.16077006 [DELETED] 

>>16066876
IXp & X:p Gag refl ex—ask the patient to say ‘Ah’. Xth nerve lesions also cause the pal-
ate to be pulled to the normal side on saying ‘Ah’, uvula deviates away. Ask them to
swallow a sip of water. Consider gag refl ex—touch the back of the soft palate with
an orange stick. The aff erent arm of the refl ex involves IX; the eff erent arm involves X


What does this mean, please? For the vagus nerve

>> No.16077265

>>16071766
it's still called schizoid, but the idea behind the naming is that those people tend to develop or are usually associated with schizophrenia.

>> No.16077717

>>16072958
I thought CRNA could practice independently in a lot of places? also I wonder if CAAs will help lower the burden at all

>> No.16077722

>>16073355
>new for profit DO schools open every year, ready to pump out FM doctors by the truckload
So does this mean that the DO stigma is going to get worse? I should have studied harder to get into an MD school.

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Can anyone explain why docs will refuse patient no. 1 steroids even tho they benefit from it and don't mind the severe side effects, but will try to force patient no. 2 on them even when they refuse repeatedly and would prefer to suffer from disease itself? Both patients have the same condition
>>16071982
I did and all they said was "it's fucked", no more help was provided other than suggestion to try and live long enough for follow up with gastro. To my knowledge it seems to be either hcg secreting tumour (if false negative with serum is on), carcinoid with meager chromogranin a levels or somehow lupus with bone pain yet no joint involvement
>>16071782
Okay and? This is /med/, did you expect anything better?

>> No.16077821

For me, it's Lecturio.

>> No.16077930

>>16077784
Ill conceived post. Which steroids? Anabolic steroids? Corticosteroids? Which condition?

>> No.16078261

>>16077930
Corticosteroids and crohn's for example
>ill conceived
Just like (you), but I won't judge, so?

>> No.16078299

>>16078261
Midwit takes personal offense to his post being called ill conceived. It was. Now that you have context I could answer it but since you lashed out, I won't and hope you don't make it in medicine because the majority of people in it are like you. Nasty midwits that you need to walk on eggshells with because all it takes is one misspoke sentence or word to set them off.

>> No.16078318

>>16077722
Honestly? Probably, but it will probably also widen the gap between higher tier DO schools and newer ones.

>> No.16078320

Tomorrow my wife will match into some EM program..

In just 3-4 short years, Im going to be eating good boys. Gonna max out some credit cards in the mean time.. she got it.

>> No.16078322

>>16078320
>EM
my condolences

>> No.16078324

>>16078322
elaborate

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>>16078324

>> No.16078332

>>16078330
maybe all the expensive upgrades I make to my PC will cheer her up?

>> No.16078360

>>16078330
>ophthalmology
>48% burned out
is ophthalmology 48% women and 52% men? how can you get burned out in fucking ophthalmology lol?
it just seems like everyone is a pansy these days.

>> No.16078367

>>16078318
>between higher tier DO schools and newer ones
the only "high tier" DO schools are public schools and maybe PCOM

even the oldest ones like DMU and KCU ship people out of state for 3rd year

>> No.16078369

>>16078367
Obviously by "high tier" I meant "high tier for a DO school", as in the longer more established ones. It's all relative.

>> No.16078371

>>16078360
>how can you get burned out in fucking ophthalmology lol?

some ophthalmology jobs are poverty level salaries

>> No.16078372

>>16078371
is your definition of poverty 300k?

>> No.16078373

>>16077717
>also I wonder if CAAs will help lower the burden at all

they can only practice in like 16 states or something, and have to be supervised directly. CRNAs have squashed them out hard

>> No.16078374

>>16078372
some opthalmologists online report salaries as low as 180k, and yes some of them are dumb enough to take it

>> No.16078375

>>16078373
tbf that's mostly because they're newer. CRNAs have lobbied against them but I think that just slows down their spread rather than stops it entirely.

Them having to be supervised directly is due to Anesthesiologists not CRNAs, because the entire point of them is to create PAs for Anesthesiologists to fight back against CRNA masses, though some CRNAs have been trying to argue they should be able to supervise CAAs too which lmao

>> No.16078377

>>16078374
kek. what a bunch of retards. that's not even that much higher than entering optometry salaries in my state.

>> No.16078418 [DELETED] 

>>16078320
>In just 3-4 short years, Im going to be eating good boys. Gonna max out some credit cards in the mean time.. she got it.
So for lack of a better word, you're basically just leeching off her? What do you do?

>> No.16078420

>>16078320
>In just 3-4 short years, Im going to be eating good boys. Gonna max out some credit cards in the mean time.. she got it.
So for lack of a better word, you're basically just leeching off her? I'm envious of you, desu. What do you do?

>> No.16078426

>>16078367
>even the oldest ones like DMU and KCU ship people out of state for 3rd year
Shit, I'm going to DMU lol.

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>>16066876
Any chance I can leverage my MD/PhD acceptance into a USAF physician pilot spot, or is this a pipe dream? Unironically trying to become an astronaut.

Also why the hell isn't HCR used in diagnostic path? ISH with catalyzed reporter deposition is hot garbage for low abundance transcripts

>> No.16078433

meddit is full of the most annoying ass retards in all of medicine
>antisocial weirdos who circlejerk radiology and anesthesia as "escapes from clinical medicine"
>Family medicine copers who circlejerk that their specialty is the hardest and that "my classmate had a 260 and matched FM, we're not idiots"
>FM copers who insist "rural FM is the best specialty and you make bank" when its still only a measly 350k with worse hours
>students who scream and piss about nepotism but also admit they will give their future kids advantages
>two faced weirdos that say all PAs are evil but then turn around and say "their much better trained than NPs, i would hire a PA for my practice"
>students that think lectures are boring yet religiously watch drying paint on a wall garbage like boards & beyond

>> No.16078448

>>16072232
>It's a combination of all the boomer anesthesia docs retiring because of COVID burnout and EM suiciding with that dumbass report so all the EM prospects started chasing Anesthesia instead

What's the overlap with EM and anesthesia applicants? Going in as an MSTP M1 so pretty naive but they seem like dissimilar specialties on the surface.

>> No.16078467

>>16078433
>>students who scream and piss about nepotism but also admit they will give their future kids advantages
I see this a lot. Even a doctor's salary will bring a huge advantage to their kids' lives.

>> No.16078485

>>16078433
i just go on meddit to laugh. why else would you go there?

>> No.16078499

>>16078299
Kys, asshole
>>16078433
>students who scream and piss about nepotism but also admit they will give their future kids advantages
Please, do remove them (physically if you know what I mean)
>>16078330
Maybe people shouldn't be overworked for pennies? Or just overworked in general?

>> No.16078640

>>16078448
>What's the overlap with EM and anesthesia applicants?

"lifestyle", as in shiftwork
thats literally it. these people are that shallow

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Are gynecologists redpilled on bodycount and the damage it does to a womans physical health as well as her ability to pair bond

>> No.16078736

>>16078727
why would a gynecologist be here? they have better things to do like being arm deep in pussy.

>> No.16078795 [DELETED] 

>>16078727
I'm not a obgyn but the vagina fixes itself you spaz
Look at a mirror and see how big.10cm is. That's how wide babies head it. It's not like a penis and barely doesn't even tear up a vagina anyway, they have to look for tears (and even inside) after delivering for when they start delivering the placenta afterwards
And not only is the vagina that stretchy but it also cleans and sheds itself so it isn't even going to get worn out. Buuuut I think 5he eyeball mayhe has more nerves than a clitorus

>> No.16078800

>>16078727
I'm not a obgyn but the vagina goes back to its normal shape after stretching you spaz
Look at a mirror and see how big.10cm is. That's how wide babies head it. It's not like a penis and barely doesn't even tear up a vagina anyway, they have to look for tears (and even inside) after delivering for when they start delivering the placenta afterwards
And not only is the vagina that stretchy but it also cleans and sheds itself so it isn't even going to get worn out. Buuuut I think 5he eyeball mayhe has more nerves than a clitorus

>> No.16078805

>>16078800
10k nerves on the clitorus, 7k nerves per mm^2 for the cornea alone (11.7mm horizontal diameter, 10.6mm vertical diameter)

>> No.16078809 [DELETED] 

>>16078805
It's close then
I heard on a podcast (from you know who!) That the part the eye is the most sense part of it. He also said something else about the part behind that having less nerves and more dense something else (cones?) Obviously he's biased
If the cornea is the most nerve-dense part of the eye then yeah that's it. I wonder if it's more if it's the entire eye

>> No.16078812

>>16078805
Or wait my bad you're saying the eye is more sensitive

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Ok if you think that I am soo stupid, go tell me about the vagus nerve

>> No.16078974

>>16078930
I see you avatarfagging in these threads occasionally. Are you even a doctor?

>> No.16078977

i am obama

>> No.16078980

>>16078974
I'm premedschool
If you don't know about the Xth cranial nerve then can you tell me about the relationships between lithium and calcium? Reading about hypocalcemia it mentioned lithium being a cause, and I'm noticing some patterns. Lithium is my passion

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Why the A in SPASMODIC would be lithium is clear
Learning about this relationship would hp me with ruling out diseases on my way to diagnosing patients

I also have an annoying little freak that follows me around (he's not s doctor but he pretends to like/know/be anything)

>> No.16079157

Imagine how it must be to feel so insecure towards soemone who doesn't give a fuck about you at all
Can't be me
Don't imagine it either. Shan't being that here either

>> No.16079218

>>16077265
False. "Schizoid" is just what comes out of a retard's mouth when they want to turn "schizophrenic" into an insult and they assume "schizoid" means "schizophrenic-like". Like "negroid" and "caucasoid". Only since they're retarded they don't know what they're talking about, and anyone who does sees through their spunky edgy (retarded) banter-oriented persona.

Hint, google the following.
Cluster A
Schizoid
Schizotypal
Schizophrenia
Empty schizoid core
Structural dissociation
Dead mother complex
Narcissistic personality disorder and schizotypal overlap. My assumption is shared underlying machinery between the two, involved in dissociation and compartmentalization. See also inverted and collapsed narcissist, mortification, narcissistic elation, fantasy defenses, etc.

The validity of the DSM is anothe rmatter entirely, given that it was simply created so insurance companies would have criteria and diagnostic codes to be charged under, and secondly as a political and social weapon of control. But not everything they came up with is total garbage, just have to take it with a grain of salt. The problem with things like NPD for example is in eg the DSM V I think a person needed to meet at least 4 criteria, but there were 10 total criteria. So you could have two people diagnosed NPD who have zero trait overlap. It's all retarded.

The ICD is slightly better. Stuff like structural dissociation, internal family systems model, cPTSD, etc are better descriptors and less needlessly pathologizing in many cases.

The biological, dietary, environmental toxicity, early childhood trauma induced brain damage, psychotropic prescription drugs given during development, etc is another conversation entirely. Maim the body, you maim the mind. Maim the mind, it will be reflected on the body. The two are connected.

But yeah. Anyone using the term schizoid in the wild, 9 times out of 10 they're just bullshitting along with a term they know nothing about.It's telling

>> No.16079306 [DELETED] 

>>16079218
"a condition where a person shows very little, if any, interest and ability to form relationships with other people"
How would this even remotely be associated with the clinical manifestations of schizophrenia?

>> No.16079351

>>16079306
What Are you asking me for?

>> No.16079357 [DELETED] 

>>16079351
>Make post projecting knowledge on the subject
>What're you asking me for?
Dumb fuck.

>> No.16079395

>>16078448
shiftwork, both handle acute emergencies, both have no long term patient handling, don't have to haggle with insurance companies.

the fields have a lot of overlap

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>>16078433
>>antisocial weirdos who circlejerk radiology and anesthesia as "escapes from clinical medicine"
I'm not that antisocial bros I just like pharmacology/physio a lot, like to be able to do some procedural things and don't like paperwork but all these fucks have made Anesthesia start skyrocketing in competitiveness why couldn't they have chosen Path instead if they just hated being social

>> No.16079419

Pretty bummed about match. 3 more years of living somewhere I don't want to live.

>> No.16079429 [DELETED] 

>>16079419
Welcome to life. You will have what you want when your body is decrepit.

>> No.16079441

>>16079429
>You will have what you want when your body is decrepit
Really does seem that way. Everything seems more pointless by the day.

>> No.16079446 [DELETED] 

>>16079441
The fact that we will fucking die to death one day just makes life and struggle that much sweeter.

>> No.16079449

>would rather circlejerk psychology (fake science) thaj talk about cranial nerves

>> No.16079517

>>16078433
>>antisocial weirdos who circlejerk radiology and anesthesia as "escapes from clinical medicine"
Spoken like a true IMdroid. Doesn't Dr. Ramakrishnan need your notes done before rounds this morning?

>> No.16079569

>>16079218
Schizoids do present with similar features to schizophrenia, such as isolation. Whether it has an association or not is still debatable. Classically, individuals with schizophrenia are usually isolated not by choice but due to psychosis. Obviously, not all individuals with schizophrenia would be isolated, but classical schizophrenia often entails isolation. For example, an individual with schizophrenia experiencing persecutory delusions would be isolated due to fear of being attacked by X. The reason behind this isolation is what differentiates between a schizoid and an individual with schizophrenia. Moreover, isolated individuals with minimal social interaction (i.e. schizoid) tend to develop schizophrenia, especially when they are under stress.

I'm just curious, why are you so upset by a label that changes constantly? Did someone call you a schizoid and you did not like that?

>> No.16079577

>>16066876
Give it to me straight, what the fuck is a D.O anyways? From what I could gather is that they are like an M.D but dumber, still Americans use them because....?
I'm not American, in case it wasn't obvious enough. I've read a couple of articles and whatnot but they all beat around the bush a lot, just like they do with midlevels.

>> No.16079581

>>16079577
In the U.S it's just an M.D, but it's easier to get into D.O school than M.D school but they have to pass the same licensing and residency tests. Essentially it just means you were probably shit in undergrad, which doesn't mean a whole lot. Functionally after residency they're the same shit.

In Europe they're hack psuedoscientists.

>> No.16079602 [DELETED] 

>>16079449
I think the Behavioral Research and Instruction Unit of the FBI has a name for profiles like you. "Harmless Faggot."

>> No.16079627

>>16078420
Im finishing up my Comp Sci degree, I was only joking lol she will be the main bread winner but I plan to get as good as a job as I can.

>> No.16079650

is there any other good medical forums? meddit is cringe, this place is too slow and SDN is autistic

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can low blood pressure get you fucked up while sleeping?
i'm a skellington and twice now i've woken up at night thinking i was having a heart attack
not that it was hurting, just couldn't feel anything, thought my heart had stopped

>> No.16079718 [DELETED] 

>>16078800
The more black men a woman fucks the higher her chances of getting an std or unwanted pregnancy. It's also more men shes comparing in her head. The monogamous woman is blissfully unaware of all the massive black dicks out there but once she experiences them she will never want white again. Once you go black you cant go back.

>> No.16079735 [DELETED] 

>eat a cat's doodooshit
>Contract Toxoplasma gondii
Wow.

>> No.16079738

>>16079718
meds. now.

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>>16079682
Not supposed to say but I'm not a doctor
But it's normal for you to not be able to feel your heartbeat lol
You do, however, need methamphetamines

>> No.16079781

By the way this is the shit I was talking about when I mentioned the poltard following me around
Per more like wheeling after me in his wheel seat

>> No.16079809

Is it against the residency match contract to commit suicide before July 1st? Asking for a friend.

>> No.16079825

>>16079357
Disregarding.

>>16079569
You could argue for a limited subset of the negative symptoms, and really stretch it by saying fantasy and rich inner world with disinterest for others is a sort of positive symptom, but it's forced. The whole idea of a schizophrenia spectrum is just dumb. It's very clear you can degrade some NPDs intoa collapsed or quasi-psychotic state, and that scizotypals vary the expression of NPD traits. The underlying machinery is very different.

>'m just curious, why are you so upset by a label that changes constantly?
You just answered your own question.

Nice try for that bait / gotcha moment, like you're living in a sitcom, you mental defective. Are you still waiting for the laugh track. Liiiikkeee BAZZIINNGGAAAAA!!!!!
*hands on hips*
*laugh track rolls*
Gotcha! hahah take your meds!
*laugh track*

Utterly surreal.

>> No.16079859 [DELETED] 

>>16079825
>Disregarding because you're right and I'm a stupid retard for asking such a braindead dipshit question
FTFY

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Psychologists fight
Two retarda fighting

>> No.16079881 [DELETED] 

>>16079870
Since I'm sure you don't know shit about endocrinology and neurology pertaining to behavior, I'll go easy on you. Give me five (5) well-thought out reasons why psychology (behavioral science) is a fake science. It'll be easy to tell if you use AI or google.

>> No.16079883

>>16079881
Don't try to change the subject because you're losing the arguments to the other guy

>> No.16079902 [DELETED] 

>>16079883
NTA. Let's go ahead and get those five reasons. I'll be waiting, or you can just tell me now that you don't have shit, and that you're just blowing smoke out of your ass.

>> No.16079909

>>16079902
I don't have to give you a list of reasons. Psychology is made up

>> No.16079912

>>16079825
>>16079825
No, you did not answer my question. Billions of other disorders have the same issue, especially when it comes to personality disorders. Yet, you are so fixated on Schizoid for some reason. Please, take your meds. Also, I do not see how it's forced. It overlaps with many features of schizophrenia, and isolated individuals tend to present psychotic features when they are under stress. You're already exhibiting at least two delusions right now and perhaps auditory hallucinations... You might have transitioned from schizoid to schizophrenia. Good job on proving the opposite of your point. It's unfortunate that your level of insight is quite low, or else you would have figured that out by yourself...

>> No.16080019

>>16066876
I'm a freshman in college, had a summer opportunity for research but lost it (professor is moving schools). How likely is it that I find another opportunity before the summer?

>> No.16080024

>>16080019
how would anyone here know we don't go to your college

>> No.16080097

lads why is there so many low value interventions that are a pain in the ass to do

>> No.16080215

>>16079407
this fuck redditors

>> No.16080230

>>16070224
t. roche shill

>> No.16080235

match bros, given your result, would you rather suffer the junior doctor wank of UK/Australia?
E.g. not getting onto gen surg training program until at least 6 years on average after graduating

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>>16079912
>Yet, you are so fixated on Schizoid for some reason.
Your attempt to manufacture the basis for a case out of nothing, has been denied.

You tried ;^)

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i am never going to take money from a pharmaceutical company
never going to go to a pharma funded 'educational course' where it's just advertising the /new/ drug and shilling for its use and not actually learning any real medicine or clinical skills (just read a book instead omg)
never going to apply for a pharma grant for some meaningless research
never will I sit on some advisory board
I'll never take money to do a pharma funded 'lecture' or a 'talk'

>> No.16080275

>>16080270
i dont think theyd ever ask you.

>> No.16080279

>>16080275
it's very easy to get on the pharma tit in one way or another especially the 'educational camps' that they organize
especially if you are a specialist, it's basically guaranteed access to some deal or other. just enough to corrupt your soul bit by bit
if you have any sort of leadership position - ofc it's much easier. pharma people basically actively contact you then

>> No.16080288

>>16080270
or you know, you go to the retreat, enjoy yourself and then don't shill to your patients

>> No.16080296

>>16080275
These threads are so pathetic.

You people are pathetic. It seriously is like you're robots trained on television. You talk like you're in a sitcom, or an episode of Family Guy or some other garbage. You literally talk, think, and act that way. It's pathetic and you're fucked up. You're not clever, you're funny, you're not smart or powerful, you didn't have "got em" moment, you're not bantering, it's just sad and defective behavior.

You're defective. Broken. Fucked up. Empty, needy, insecure. Everyone sees through you immediately wherever you go, they just humor you out of convenience. The fact that you think you've flipped things around i your mind to tell yourself you're smart, freer, stronger, smarter, better off, of a higher status and position, by becoming a pharma prostitute, is just the cherry on top.

You're not even worth capping it off with a "kys". You're closer to an animal, a malformed child in an adult's body. You live in penetration world. You tell yourself the way that you can penetrate is by submitting to penetration. It's a sexual dominance ritual. Hence you are a "whore". Your body and mind are a glorified cum bucket. You are their fields to sow and reap. You are a puppet, a hollow plaything. Any real person would look at you in nothing but pity and disgust. You know this, so you go and suck cock for attention and some scraps kicked your way.

>> No.16080311

>>16080279
the joke was he's not a doctor and is just a chronic shitposter.
>>16080296
ok lol.

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>>16080296
take your meds, schizo

>> No.16080444

>>16080443
I am the meds, bud.

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Psychologists argument
Two retards fighting

>> No.16080466

Nvm just one salty retard literally crying on the internet
Psychologist arguments go like: shoving the other psychologists face with medication trying to make it so they're unable to speak before you're made to become a vegetable by the other one

>> No.16080525

>>16080466
meme science

>> No.16080572

>>16079581
>but they have to pass the same licensing and residency tests

not really true. bottom of the class retards in DO school usually only stick to comlex (anyone who is applying FM). also, people are stupid and think a Pass/Fail step 1 is pointless to take (even though programs filter this), so you do have some smarter students that only take level 1 but do take step 2

also, most fellowships in general dont really care about step 3 score so lot of DOs that did take step 1 and 2, will just take level 3

FM is the only specialty where 99% of programs are fine with only comlex 1 and 2. but FM makes up a huge portion of DOs

>> No.16080574

>>16080572
yeah true I guess they can just comlex and go into FM, though they still have to pass the same boards don't they?

>> No.16080587

Well really you could develop heart problems with any kind of "Jew juice" as/if it collects in the right atrium and your own bodies juices stick to it (the hearts platelets and antibodies)
And requires surgery

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Got a stapedectomy a week ago and I'm now paranoid as fuck about it. Constantly asking myself if I made the right decision, or whether I should have just gotten a hearing aid. In these surgeries occasionally the prothesis becomes dislocated and the only way to fix it is more surgery, and subsequent surgeries are always less successful than prior ones. I hate being put to sleep with anesthesia. We don't know the long term effects of it. And what about metal leeching? Now I have a fucking titanium piston in my ear. And the surgery is irreversible they obliterated my stapes. No going back.

Holy fuck I'm a neurotic mess. A hearing aid would have probably made me less worried.

>> No.16080642

>>16066876
Why do amerimutts use regional and not systemic approach to anatomy? Are they simply retarded? Is this why they have African-tier healthcare system despite such high wages? I'm terrified, there's literally the only one normal anatomy textbook in English and it's from 2007.

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Eagle on the wall
Eagle on the wall. Michigan court
Baaased

>> No.16080747

>>16080642
What are those things

>> No.16080775

>>16080747
amerimutts are living beings who inhabit northern america
they are all obese and have mutilated dicks

>> No.16080786

>>16080775
What are the main points of the two approaches to anatomy and how do they differ from one another?
O haven't gotten to the section on anatomy yet

>> No.16080804

>>16080786
It's merely about the composition of textbooks but the former is so retarded and indigestible it pisses me off. The systemic anatomy textbook describes each system of human body, e.g. respiratory, digestive, etc., separately while the regional anatomy textbooks meshes them all up according to simply their place in the body, e.g. head, lower limb, etc.
>>16080642
Meanwhile their histology textbooks are normal in this regard, why can't these retard keep their gross anatomy up to date as well?

>> No.16080831

>>16066876
Any of you /sci/ docs can help me out with a problem? I'm currently sitting on the toilet as I type, and a fat fucking tapeworm is hanging out of my asshole, and no matter how hard I pinch, the motherfucker won't relent. Thanks.

>> No.16080837

>>16080831
Describe him in detail please.

>> No.16080852
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16080852

I know you guys said no advice but hey where else am I gonna go? I have nowhere to go at this time of the night. So here's my shot.

I haven't made an appointment with an urologist (yet) but I have to know if anyone else has gone through this.

I've been feeling this sort of not too severe pain this this area. At this I feel it near the base of my penis, sometimes in this area but as if it was near my left nut.

I don't know why or what caused it. I am 29. I don't have sex all that often and when I do it's with only one person and with a condom. I am not circumcised.

But this pain comes and goes but its been present for weeks and I just don't know what it is or what it could be.

If I move my penis to the right I can feel it as if it was something "muscular" like a "pull" in this part. But it's not like I am doing stuff with it, I don't really masturbate all that much and when I do It was just, you know, a quick nut.

I know this is not the place but if anybody knows or has felt this, could you just shed some light?

>> No.16080868

I'm still waiting for the description of the worm.

>> No.16080874

Pull it out

>> No.16080880

>>16067923
>muh AI
Cope. MDs and DOs abilities are legally protected with the biggest political lobbying group by dollar funding in the US. An AI can never legally serve the functions of a doctor and would require undoing all medical laws in the history of the country which will never happen.

>> No.16080889

Zinc suppliments can make you copper deficient
Does this mean that zinc suppliments in your brain will cure your autism? Not looking for advice btw it's just a harmless question definitely not for me

>> No.16080904

>>16080880
Why did this happen in the US and not in the EU?

>> No.16080909

>>16080831
Why do you even have a tapeworm in you?

>> No.16080918

>>16080909
He just came in, that's how they work. I don't think this poster invited him or something.

>> No.16080942

I've heard on the news and around 4chan that people aren't cooking bacon properly

>> No.16080944

>>16080942
Bacon is made of pigs, not of worms anon.

>> No.16080966

>>16080311
>you criticize pharma influenced key opinion leaders in medicine
>well you clearly aren't a doctor

>> No.16080976

>>16080944
Bakaa it has eggs in it. And soil does too
What else? Rainwater does

>> No.16080981

>>16080966
no, just types like a major faggot. that's how i figured it out.

>> No.16080985

>>16080976
>it has eggs in it
Helminths aren't related to chicken either, are you really a doctor anon?

>> No.16080991

>>16080985
No. I think if he wants to undercook chicken then he's got bigger issues

>> No.16081004

Ha ha ha!

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can anyone get this for me?
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07108-6

>> No.16081076
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And do WHAT

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>>16080587

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>>16080587
Goes in from the top, like this. Then into the right
Then a bypass may be done (with one of the valves)

>> No.16081276

When do the eggs appear in the woman

>> No.16081305 [DELETED] 

>>16081276
age 8

>> No.16081360

>>16080592
Otosclerosis inevitably progresses, you'd be "going back" to a progressive loss of hearing, your choice was always surgery or going deaf sooner or later, no way around it

>> No.16081435

>>16081360
I had known about since 3-4 years ago. And my hearing deteriorated in the time frame on very slighlty. And I've also read where Vitamin D supplementation can slow it.

>> No.16081479

>>16081435
You could've delayed surgery further with conservative management and maybe even gained a false sense of uncertainity about the progression of your disease, but it has it's limits. With the surgery you've skipped to the inevitable, and regardless of the possible complications, the vast majority of stapedectomies are successful and chances are so was yours. If you're prone to catastrophizing that's a rough hand do deal with, but that's the way it is with medical interventions

>> No.16081490

>>16081479
>If you're prone to catastrophizing that's a rough hand do deal with
yeah I'd wager I have 90th percentile neuroticism. I see disasters 10 miles down the road constantly.

>the vast majority of stapedectomies are successful and chances are so was yours
Hopefully. What's done is done I guess.

>> No.16081641

>>16080592
Doctors function on a religion of uncaused causes. They'll always try to strike fear into you, and tell you that without them you'll decay and suffer. And with them you'll slow the decay and ease the suffering. In reality your issue probably has an actual cause, and the promised slow(er) decay is simply due to their treatments being poisonous symptom reduction, whereas fixing the cause would simply fix the issue outright.

It makes me think of everything they tell people with MS, parkinsons, cancer, whatever. Filling their mind with how they're going to wither and die, and then giving them test after test after test to document and show them how they're being maimed and losing themselves bit by bit. Drugging them over and over and over.

>> No.16081654

>>16081276
Second trimester.

>> No.16081657

>>16081479
Notice how they keep telling you it's inevitable, it's inevitable, it's inevitable. You need us, it's inevitable. Fear fear fear, dependency, helplessness, submission.

>> No.16081735

>>16081490
>yeah I'd wager I have 90th percentile neuroticism. I see disasters 10 miles down the road constantly.
Catastrophizing gets you into a hole quick, fucks with your thinking, it's cliche but the only way out of these panic loops is getting out of your own head

>Hopefully. What's done is done I guess.
You've been dealt a bad hand by nature, that's a shit situation to be in for anyone, coping with that isn't easy, but with a bit of luck your surgery will keep and you'll be as fine as you can be in your circumstances, that's just what you have to trust in to move on from this

>> No.16081742

>>16081654
As in the fetus?

>> No.16081750

>>16081742
yes

>> No.16081759

>>16081750
Wow that's cool
Thanks

>> No.16081886

>>16080574
>though they still have to pass the same boards don't they?

no
step 3 is not required for DOs. in fact, there are several states where step 3 is not sufficient for DOs
there are also DO specific specialty boards

>> No.16081889

>>16080880
>MDs and DOs abilities are legally protected with the biggest political lobbying group by dollar funding in the US

wrong. the nursing lobbies are far more powerful, as well as their public image
the public loves nurses and loathes doctors

>> No.16082293

>>16081735
>Catastrophizing gets you into a hole quick, fucks with your thinking, it's cliche but the only way out of these panic loops is getting out of your own head
any advice on how?

>You've been dealt a bad hand by nature, that's a shit situation to be in for anyone, coping with that isn't easy, but with a bit of luck your surgery will keep and you'll be as fine as you can be in your circumstances, that's just what you have to trust in to move on from this
Thanks anon. You're surprisingly encouraging considering what website we're on. You sound like a kind person.

>> No.16082366

I decided to study engineering instead of medicine for the following reason: in my highschool, all the actually smart people took AP Calculus I, II, and physics and were interested in engineering, wheras the "premed" posers inflated their GPA with easy classes and avoided studying math and physics at an AP level.

Now, I'm making 6 figures working some meme unfulfilling WFH office job. Life is chill, but sometimes I regret not having a serious, intellectually challenging job. Did I make the wrong move?

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>>16082366
yeah i know i zolfed physiques, its pretty simple a laser for example to cut 1 mm steel at a distance of 1 meter the energy you need to apply to the lazer = the energy to cut 1 mm steel.

sadly most matz and physiques people dont intereted in this find.

their for the lazer isnt a flashlight on stereoides but more a resonator who activates time core energy ova a distanze.

>> No.16082371

>>16082366
Doctors are brainwashed golem. You did fine. Take all that Kingdom Hospital and House MD shit and purge it from your mind.

>> No.16082372

>>16082366
>>16082370
it needs the energy to cut 1 meter of steel, but it aint since, ofc this would mean the devize melts in your hand.

>> No.16082374

>>16082366
>>16082372
matz people behave like insulted physiques people like scared.

>> No.16082404

>>16082366
depends on what you wouldve chosen as a specialty and location/demographics or if you chose to be a researcher, but even then there will be certain conditions/diseases you'd see 90% of your day with roughly the same treatment.

>> No.16082430

>>16082404
I've always been interested by pharmacology. Wondering if it's a shit field.

>> No.16082444

>>16082366
Most premed people, especially in High School, don't even end up taking the MCAT. I think the stat is like 80% of them will change their mind so I wouldn't base that off much.

that said practicing medicine for most specialties isn't super intellectually challenging ( though there are a few exceptions) it's more of a work ethic deal than an IQ limit. if you want to smell your own farts over how high IQ you are go be a theoretical physicist or something

>> No.16082454

>>16082430
Anesthesiology probably deals the most with Pharmacology out of any specialty. You also get to see your drugs work in real time. Unless you mean being a Pharmacist which I hear is kind of shit lately due to declining pay and overregulation. Personally just seems extremely boring to basically be a pill waiter too.

>> No.16082502

I hate being a premed

>> No.16082511

>took MCAT without studying (I was depressed and suicidal) and scored a 505, haven't taken physics or biochem
at least next time I take it I can actually study and get higher
I wish I wasn't like this.

>> No.16082526

>>16082511
>>took MCAT without studying (I was depressed and suicidal) and scored a 505, haven't taken physics or biochem
Why even take the MCAT then?

>> No.16082530

>>16082526
I'm retarded

>> No.16082563

>>16082511
>(I was depressed and suicidal)

get your vitamin D levels checked

>> No.16082572

>>16082563
Its low. Ive been taking supplements

>> No.16082576

>>16082511
>I was depressed and suicidal
Is it about the application process that is making you depressed?

>> No.16082628

>>16082511
>took the MCAT without studying or taking physics/biochem
absolutely retarded, but if you can improve your score retake it won't be a huge deal. even now that's good enough to get into a DO school

>> No.16082731

Well I'm pre MED SCHOOL
Haha!

>> No.16082854

I didn't mean to capitalise MED

>> No.16083120

>>16082576
Being a lonely autistic male in college is depressing
>>16082628
I'm fine with going to DO school anyways. I know it is retarded and I keep beating myself up over it in my head.

>> No.16083130

>>16082572
You have to megadose or your blood levels will never rise. Take 50,000 IU or so for a month or so. Then drop down to a maintainance dose of 5-15k. Taking 5000 a day will never do anything, period. That's why they suggest it. Research has been done and it's known that at 5k/day blood levels remain low months later. It doesn't work. You have an active inflammatory process and until you reach a threshold dose it's just going to waste and burn through anything you put in.

Your dumb fuck doctor probably never told you that, but there you go.

>> No.16083220

>>16083120
why do you even want to study medicine? is somebody forcing you? Are you trying to prove something?

>> No.16083232

>>16082293
>any advice on how?
IMO a lot is recognizing your own patterns of thought in these situations, people start making fear driven assumptions and then spiral into further scenarios based on these that up the panic further. Practicing some degree of "mindfulness" helps, but a lot is just detaching a bit and getting used to letting thoughts pass through unhindered without using distractions to cope

>You're surprisingly encouraging considering what website we're on
Your post sounded genuinely distressed, I just tend to empathise with people in such situations, part of why I went into medicine. Anyways try keeping your chin up, operations are always high stress for patients but in due time it'll be behind you and things will look brighter

>> No.16083280

>>16083120
>>16083220
this. wouldn't recommend med school if you're both autistic and depressed

the only autistic guy in my class is on an LOA and his grades are the worst in the class. he's even failed multiple OSCEs. he only went to med school because he parents forced him to.
rural family med is the only thing he'll probably match into, which he doesn't even wanna do.

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Gold
Is good

>> No.16083313

Ok so endosomes with recycled (and eaten (via invaginis)) receptors will go to the kidneys?

>> No.16083426

6.25g of enteral protein gives 1g of nitrogen

>> No.16083591

>less than 24hours until my 8hour optometry test
>dont feel ready at all
this is going to suck. wish me luck, /med/bros.

>> No.16083674

>>16083120
>I'm fine with going to DO school anyways.
Don't have this attitude. It's MD or bust. You're shooting yourself in the foot by going to a DO school.

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My blood lipids are (mg/dL):

- Total cholesterol: 257

- HDL cholesterol: 112

- LDL cholesterol: 136.5

- VLDL cholesterol: 9

- Triglycerides: 43

Should I be worried about the LDL levels taking into account that the other ones are perfect? Should I get a test where they break down the different kinds of LDL?

I'm 35M, moderate but constant daily walking and weight lifting. Eat a moderate to high amount of saturated fat mostly in the form of cheese, greek yoghurt, coconut and butter.

>> No.16083699

>>16083232
Thanks for your help and advice anon. I sincerely appreciate it. Keeping my thoughts in check is definitely something I should work on.

>> No.16083709

>>16083674
if he wants to go FM or some shit it doesn’t make that big of a difference

>> No.16083718

>>16083691

Forgot to mention that I'm 174cm/5'8" and 58Kg/127lbs and that doctors didn't pay much attention to those results.

>> No.16083737

>>16083709
Okay, but what if he changes his mind in medical school and wants to get into a more competitive specialty? Also, by going to a DO school, that's admitting you couldn't get into an MD school. That's a huge loss.

>> No.16083748

>>16083737
if he’s bombing the MCAT this hard he probably won’t match into a competitive specialty even if he goes MD. better to go DO and do primary care than give up a year of attending salary if you’re cool with going primary care anyway

>> No.16083761

>>16083748
>if he’s bombing the MCAT this hard
He got a 505, which isn't good but it's not "bombing". He supposedly didn't even study for it in addition to not even taking physics or biochem yet so he can only go higher.
Encouraging him to go to a DO school is a disservice to him. It's MD or bust.

>> No.16083915

The average mcat for my MD class was 519

Mcat inflation is absolutely fucking med school admissions

t. 516

>> No.16083918

>>16083915
Forgot to mention that the classes above mine and the class below mine all have lower average mcats and they all recognize (and joke) that my class is all antisocial weirdos with clique issues

>> No.16083993

Why are there so many fucking NSAID's? Don't they all do the fucking same?

t. clinical pathology resident

>> No.16084082

>>16083993
I dunno do they inhibit cox2, cox1 and cox2, pde, non selective pde
I don't give a shit either

>> No.16084094

>>16083993
You're a fucking doctor and you don't know that different drugs that do the same thing exist due to side effect profiles, co-morbidities, and pharmacokinetic differences in each patient? Why do you think so many beta-lactam antibiotics work if they all have the same mechanism of action? Jesus Christ anon.

>> No.16084222

>>16083709
>if he wants to go FM or some shit it doesn’t make that big of a difference

his mind will change
i was diehard FM before entering school. while i still like FM, now i'm applying neurology

>> No.16084226

i dont care what anyone says, family medicine is THE reddit specialty. it is literally a cult

https://www.reddit.com/r/medicalschool/comments/1bgrsqu/lots_of_ignorance_about_fm/

580 upvotes, any critique is downvoted to hell

its all absolute lies and exaggeration
>FM IS a lifestyle specialty
>you WILL do rural primary care
>you WILL make $350k with a 4 day work week
>you WILL get to do ER, hospitalist and c-sections with no issues
>you WILL say its the hardest specialty and that midlevels cannot do your job (when they already do in droves)

>> No.16084245

>>16083220
No one's forcing me, nor am I trying to prove something. I never really got this question, it seems like everyone who asks it expects some grandiose answer. To me it's just fun, I'm an EMT and enjoy it, I enjoy learning, I enjoy testing and talking to patients and I had the chance to play on the da vinci robot and I want to do that the rest of my life please. Very comfy. It's just fun and meaningful
And what would I even do if not medicine? There's literally nothing else I want to do. If I could make a living off of playing my accordion I would do that, but that's not an option right now.
>>16083280
I would be happy with rural family med. I'd like to do gen surg if I can strengthen myself over the next few years.
>>16083674
I'll apply MD too but I don't think it's a big deal if I don't get into MD. I don't want to do anything crazy competitive.
>>16084222
>>16083761
Well I mean, what wouldn't I be able to match into? I don't want to do derm, ENT, plastics, or any of that. I like stuff like family medicine, general surgery, pathology. 3 of the young general surgeons I know literally went to the Caribbean, I think I'll be OK matching into gen surg as a DO as long as I score good.

>> No.16084268

>>16084245
>I think I'll be OK matching into gen surg as a DO as long as I score good.

you need to be a workaholic to do gen surg. also, there is no "scoring good", step 1 is now pass/fail

>> No.16084309 [DELETED] 

>>16084268
>step 1 is now pass/fail
Yes, I'm trying to tell the dude to do MD or bust because you can't differentiate yourself with Step 1 anymore. Beyond that DO schools have a lot of other issues such as being graded, and being more expensive, etc.

>> No.16084324

>>16084268
>step 1 is now pass/fail
Yes, I'm trying to tell the dude to do MD or bust because you can't differentiate yourself with Step 1 anymore. Beyond that DO schools have a lot of other issues such as being graded, being more expensive, taking double boards, wasting time on OMM, not having home hospitals, etc.

>> No.16084355

>>16084324
>>16084268
What do you want me to do then? Rope myself if I don't get into MD school?

>> No.16084515

>>16084355
I'd say to pursue another profession entirely if you don't get into an MD school. Do not believe Reddit when they say DO schools are okay. Every DO student would be an MD if they had the choice.

>> No.16084518

>>16084245
>gen surg, FM, pathology
you could match into all of those pretty reliable with a DO

>>16084515

is sort of correct. MD is always better and 99% of DO students would be MD if they could. That said I don't think it's so bad that you should choose another profession. At the end of the day you get the same scope and pay. Better to be a DO then not be a Doctor at all if that's what you want to do.

>> No.16084522

>>16084355
nah don't listen to that anon. don't get me wrong MD is better but DO isn't so bad that you'd drop the school entirely. it's just generally a shittier time in med school and harder to match into competitive specialties. you can still match into all the shit you listed though without much trouble. matching into FM/Path basically just requires having a pulse.

absolutely do not go Caribbean though.

>> No.16084532

>>16084518
>Better to be a DO then not be a Doctor at all if that's what you want to do.
I never understood this attitude. Besides the plethora of reasons I listed on why MD schools are better, it's terrible to say that anon should try to settle with going to a DO school. It's better to aim high and fail than to be happy with settling.

>> No.16084610

Might sound gay...

What does good mental health or fitness look like?

Is it just the absence of mental illness?

>> No.16084633

>>16084610
I would say the absence, since there are so many personality types that one singular basis of good health doesn't quite make sense.

>> No.16084856

My creatine kinase is over 2700, going to the doctor right now, but what could it mean?

>> No.16084859 [DELETED] 

>>16084856
cancers, skeletal muscle, heart, brain damage or degeneration

>> No.16084863

>>16084859
I wonder which system was supposed to handle the surplus?

>> No.16084891 [DELETED] 

>>16084863
High CK levels typically indicate musclular damage, seeing as the renal system filters it in the nephron, but a "surplus" means that a muscular system is releasing it into the blood in greater amounts than can be cleared normally.

>> No.16084897

>>16084522
Several of the general surgeons I know went to Caribbean (not saying I'd ever go that route) and most of the anesthesia residents at the teaching hospital near me are DOs. I think I can do what I want to do as a DO. But sure I'll try for MD.
>>16084518
Yeah exactly. The other anon said "pick something outside of medicine" OK what
What would you do if not medicine? I have no idea what I'd do.
Maybe it'll come to that anyways, I don't have any confidence in myself and keep believing I can't do it

>> No.16084902 [DELETED] 

>>16084897
Get a masters if your grades suck, do some volunteer hours and shadowing, and do well on your MCAT. It's not that hard.

>> No.16084960

>>16084902
I can still get into MD school?
What should I get my masters in and should I do a postbacc instead of a masters? my sci gpa is about a 3.4 and cgpa a 3.1

>> No.16085037 [DELETED] 

>>16084960
Yeah dude, a lot of people at the state research school here go for a masters so they look good for the 520 MCAT school we have. Typically the masters is in biomedical science where you can do classes like pathophys and surgical anatomy. The uni has 4 morgue freezers, so you get to work with cadavers before getting into a med school.

>> No.16085159

>>16082444
>though there are a few exceptions
checked, such as?

>> No.16085162

Isn't surgery intellectually challenging?

>> No.16085167

>>16083918
What university? Must be a top school for 519 to have been average, right?

>> No.16085170

>>16085162
Ain't just cutting meat this days? I mean a robot can do it

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>>16085170
holy shit, you're right

>> No.16085213

>>16085037
>state research school
>520 MCAT school
wtf

>> No.16085220

For these purported "520 MCAT" schools, is the MCAT score doing most of the heavy lifting for you admission, so to speak?
Just curious.

>> No.16085224 [DELETED] 

>>16085213
Read the post again. The medical school is 520 MCAT, not the state school.

>> No.16085226

>>16085220
for your*
I'm curious because I hate my engineering job and was wondering if I can quit and bear down for like 6 months for the MCAT and just basically guarantee acceptance. I'm 27.
I'm fascinated by neurology/neurosurgery/psychiatry.

>> No.16085230 [DELETED] 

>>16085226
Have a good MCAT, clinical experience, and tell a good story that shows you can eat life's shit and come out okay through perseverance.

>> No.16085245

>>16084532
No it isn't when the "settling" is ending up in the exact same job role with the same responsibilities and pay. I'm just as much anti-DO if you can get into an MD as you are but you're being kind of autistic about it.

>> No.16085248

>>16085220
Nah, you still need research, decent writing, good GPA and good ECs for those schools in addition to the MCAT. The MCAT will do heavy lifting for mid tier schools but for high tier schools it's more of a barrier to entry.

>> No.16085266 [DELETED] 

>>16085248
>research
My gay ass uni has a BSL4 lab but wouldn't let me culture MTB.

>> No.16085320

>>16085230
>clinical experience
Would volunteering at a hospital work?

>and tell a good story that shows you can eat life's shit
great I can do that

>>16085248
>research
I graduated 5 years go in electrical engineering. Technically I did some research because I worked with a professor one semester by writing code and running simulations for his research related to earthquake engineering. As you can see, it's not really basic science, which is what I'm assuming they'd be looking for. I'm not going back to uni just to do some research, so I'm going to have to do without it? Is that fine or is it over?

>> No.16085336
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does this look infected?
>rug burn
>occurred 2-3 days ago
sensitive to hot water and touch. doesn't hurt otherwise. currently using polysporin with bandaids.

>> No.16085350

>>16085220
no that only gets foot in the door
lot of med schools also want to see more emphasis on clinical work (like being a scribe)

>> No.16085369

>>16085350
>(like being a scribe)
What does that mean? I thought that ended with the advent of the printing press? Should I work on my illumination technique too?

>> No.16085420

>>16085336
anon that's fucking disgusting

>> No.16085422

>>16085245
>No it isn't when the "settling" is ending up in the exact same job role with the same responsibilities and pay.
You are correct but it's about setting high standards for yourself. You should always strive for self-mastery and going to a MD over a DO school is one way you can do that in regards to medicine. Likewise, that's why I never understood why someone would want to be a PA. The word, "assistant" is literally in the job title lol.

>> No.16085447

>take test at testing center
>think it's alright and i hopefully passed
>go to leave
>uh, we're having a problem with your exam upload
>what...
>all the other people who have turned in the test give a different message than what yours says
>so is it uploaded?
>...probably.
>they call the big center
>yeah it's probably fine
please, kill me.

>> No.16085602

>>16066876
How do I get one of those wristbands that says "Do No Resuscitate?"

>> No.16085617

>>16085422
Sure, but you have to be realistic. I'm in agreement that you should absolutely aim for an MD school, but if for whatever reason you can't get in and you're totally comfortable going into primary care.. just go DO. It's not worth giving up years of an Attending salary just for your pride when you'll end up doing the same thing in the end. It's not like you're settling to be a PA or an NP or some shit.

>> No.16085625

>>16085320
>would volunteering at a hospital work
yes, anything that gets you meaningful patient interaction (or something where you can BS that you did like most do)
>do without it?
I mean don't get me wrong it's definitely possible to get into medical school without research, getting into an absolute top school without it is going to be pretty difficult barring some other extreme x-factor (like being a veteran).

But the difference between a top tier MD school and a low or mid tier MD school isn't really all that vast if I'm being honest. It mostly just amounts to prestige for easier Residency matching, so no I don't think it's worth going back to try to get research and it's definitely not over.

>> No.16085628

>>16085625
ok thanks for the help anon

>> No.16085633

>>16085628
Also since you're an engineer you might want to look into Illinois College of Medicine. They really like applicants with an engineering background.

>> No.16085684

>>16085420
okay but is it infected

>> No.16085706

>>16085167
top 50

>> No.16085713

>>16085628
piggybacking on what anon said here
I got into an MD school with a 516 (mentioned above) with 0 research experience. Instead, I volunteered at a Hospice and ended up becoming the volunteer coordinator and an office monkey for the practice. Find something like that.

Hospice volunteering is easy EASY hours.
>I don't want to be around dying people
Hospice people are the easiest dying people to be around. If you're so averse to being around dying people that you wouldn't do it to get into medicine you sure as fuck would have an awful time in medicine. Unless you pick some outpatient pussy job

>> No.16085998

>>16085369
how cute
a minimum wageslave job where you are typing notes for doctors

>> No.16086099

>boomer male patient says I look like Dr Kildare especially because of my "hairy muscular" arms
WTF

>> No.16086112

Do medfags like paramedics?

>> No.16086160

>>16086112
I just want a thick paramedic gf to crush me between her thighs while wearing her uniform

>> No.16086310

>>16085633
Thanks!
>>16085684
I'm not a doctor
>>16085713
Sounds good desu
>>16085998
Thanks anon you're cute too desu

>> No.16086654

>>16066876
Medicine isn't a science. Fucking grifters.

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>>16068017