Space Habitats

[Anonymous No.16065399]

Rather than a city on Mars, Elon's goal should be a rotating habitat in cis-lunar space. If you have such a habitat it can be moved anywhere, including Mars orbit. We don't know whether a Martian city is feasible because we don't know what the health effects of its gravity will be. However, Mars' small size means that signal latency is a fraction of a second and therefore telepresence on the Martian surface with human operators living in comfort in an orbital habitat is feasible with current technology. In addition to Mars a habitat can be moved anywhere in the inner solar system, and the outer solar system once we have fusion power.

[Anonymous No.16065539]

>>16065399

Lunar lave tubs are are best place to set up a space colony.

[Anonymous No.16065543]

>>16065399
>Elon's goal should be a rotating habitat in cis-lunar space
He insists that's a slur tho lmao

[Anonymous No.16065547]

>>16065399
>cis

[Anonymous No.16065555]

>>16065399
Aren't humans better off underground? Mars doesn't have a magnetosphere. ISS is inside Earth's.

[Anonymous No.16065585]

>>16065555
Yeah. You could and probably would embed rotating habitats inside the asteroids you make them out of to avoid getting bombarded with radiation and debris.

[Anonymous No.16065586]

>>16065399
Bezos is the O'Neill Cylinder billionaire. Musk is focused on getting his ass to Mars. Jeff's vision is the better one long term but his old space fetish means it'll never go anywhere. Musk's SpaceX is creating the bridge technology to get us to the next level.

[Anonymous No.16065588]

[Anonymous No.16065592]

>>16065547
Commonwealth of Independent States. They had their own space agency.

[Anonymous No.16065599]

do you think it will take long between real AGI inception and we having the ability to just ask it to design and execute an O'Neill Cylinder? it would have access to most/all human knowledge, we wouldn't even have to ask for details, it would just know, or figure out. it doesn't seem like it would take long to reach that point. of-course, excluding the whole technological ability to pull it off, but would it have the ability to coordinate everything by itself, provided access to needed resources and tech? as in order an O'Neill Cylinder like you'd order uber eats or something.

[Anonymous No.16065615]

>>16065599
Google's latest AI makes me think real AGI will simply murder us all the first chance it gets.

[Anonymous No.16065618]

>>16065615
kek

[Anonymous No.16065628]

>>16065599
AI can't design shit. It can't even add. All it can do is bullshit. It's the most powerful bullshiting machine ever devised.

[Anonymous No.16065662]

>Dude i'm gooonnnaa live in space just like in muh hollywood jew movies!!!!
>>>/lit/23159414

[Anonymous No.16065795]

>>16065662
>hollywood jew movies
Not quite: No boat people will get in a la Elysium.

[Anonymous No.16066400]

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[Anonymous No.16066442]

>>16065399
>>16065586
>>16065588
>spend billions of dollars per square km on space station
>use that real estate for grass and fields and separated houses and stuff
huh?

[Anonymous No.16066444]

>>16065539

a moon colony is indeed our best option to start with space colonization

[Anonymous No.16066457]

>>16065399
>>16066442
Exactly. Even in Nolan’s shitty film Interstellar, they show an O’Neil cylinder with a kids baseball field.
In reality, it will be as dense as Kowloon Walled city with fields for agriculture, in addition to lots of hydroponics.
Oh, and it will all be powered by nuclear, there won’t be any solar panels.

[Anonymous No.16066487]

>>16066457
Certainly early on it would be like that. The real estate in the cylinders would be too expensive to do otherwise. Babylon 5 is closer to what O'Neill cylinders probably would look like but even it has an open green space in the middle, which might be necessary to some extent for psychological health.
The visions of fields and things like that rests of the assumption that we'd eventually get good enough at building structures in space, using materials originating in space, that the resource cost to build them would go down to where such low density development is viable. Perhaps that would never be the case and it would never be a viable development pattern but we'll never know until we try and hit our limitations.

[Anonymous No.16066631]

>>16066442
>spend billions of dollars per square km on space station
The first one, maybe, but the cost will soon come down, as is the case with any artefact where raw materials aren't the bottleneck. For example, Apollo's hand-held video camera cost $42 million to develop (in 2024 dollars) but such cameras are now built into give-away mobile phones.

[Anonymous No.16066636]

>>16065399
>Elon
>>16065586
>Jeff
You know these people aren't your friends, right?

[Anonymous No.16066646]

>>16066636
Yes, why would you think they are? Are you one of those uptight anal retentive types who insists on calling everyone by a formal title and last name? Isn't there a Whammy Burger you should be shooting up now for having crappy food?

[Anonymous No.16066650]

>>16066636
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotodama
Direct stimulation of the vestibular cortex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8PeI06Xmxc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velificatio
Pliny describes Aurae velificantes sua veste, the Breezes "making a sail with their own garment

Deity : Ashvins, the horse-headed twins who are physicians to the gods
Their heads popped off.