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16057722 No.16057722 [Reply] [Original]

New science has arrived: Its says that electric cars are worse for the environment than real cars are

>> No.16057729

So? Electric vehicles are just a transitory step between gas guzzlers and clean mandatory public transport.

>> No.16057757

>>16057729
>public transport.
bleh nope. I care about my privacy, and proximity to other piece of shit
>but muh..
don't care

>> No.16057774

>>16057729
So if electric is dirtier than combustion and combustion is how they originally defined unclean, what transport are you referring to that is "clean"?

>> No.16057776 [DELETED] 
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>>16057729

>> No.16057795

>>16057722
TSLA was never about saving the environment, it was about saving car culture.

>> No.16057904 [DELETED] 

>>16057776
That meme was definitely made by a Christian. It makes no sense at all

>> No.16057908

>>16057774
>what transport are you referring to that is "clean"?
I am almost sure there's an insane propaganda campaign started by big oil on basically all media to push hydrogen even tho it's more polluting than EVs. (yeah hydrogen cars also have EV batteries even if smaller same shit overall).

>> No.16058011

>>16057757
When your country has a semblance of national identity you feel in unity with strangers on public transport and other communal places.

>> No.16058014

>>16057757
And since all we do as humans is project our inward mental state to our environment you calling others pieces of shit indicates that you likely don’t treat yourself in the highest regard. Take care of that shortcomming.

>> No.16058024

>>16057722
Just ban trucks and buses (over 3.5t) to offset the tyre polution caused by EVs.

>> No.16058089

>>16057722
starting in 2021 lifelong environmentalists have been parroting old oil industry propaganda because electric car man bad

>> No.16058090

>>16057774
>what transport are you referring to that is "clean"
Who said I care?

>> No.16058094

>>16058011
>>16058014
you are not going to guilt trip me into doing it. don't care, not going to happen. it's just not is all hahahahah

>> No.16058106

>>16057722
Last time I checked EV owners aren't changing tires or brake calipers every time they charge their vehicles, the paper's argument is invalid. Also speaking of brake calipers
>what is regenerative braking

>> No.16058120

>>16057722
Study was funded by Musk because only chuds like him these days but chuds don't buy electric vehicles. But now they can get a Tesla to own the libs.

>> No.16058128
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combustion engines cars makes noise and pollute my city
electric cars are silent and don't pollute my city

simple as

>> No.16058137 [DELETED] 

>Capitalists detroy public infrastructure in favour of car culture
>Whoops, turns out cars are bad for the environment
>But don't worry, capitalists can solve the problem! Conveniently by selling you more cars!
>There's no reason to doubt that the system works!
>Don't look into it deeper!
Another capitalist success story.

>> No.16058806

>>16058137
Public transport is mental poison.
>t. rides the train to work in a European city every day

>> No.16058812

>>16057722
Well it's a good thing I got my electric car without any thought about pollution or care for the environment beforehand. Now I can continue to not care in peace

>> No.16059280

>>16057722
>Emissions
>The article is about tire dust

I guess you just can't wait to trade that truck in for an ultralight smart car since you're so environmentally conscious. You'd hate to drive a vehicle that weighs more than a Tesla because that would add even more tire dust to the environment, right?

>> No.16059297

>>16058137
>>>/pol/

>> No.16059386

>>16057722
>self-published study by some consulting firm
They had a guy drift race a 2011 VW Golf around a track to get the tire figure, and just the tire figure. They're quite honest about this, and I have to give them credit for that.

>> No.16059387

>>16057722
Electric cars are real cars

>> No.16059397

>>16057757
>bleh nope. I care about my privacy, and proximity to other piece of shit
I'll be taking the train in 1 hour. What do you believe my experience will be?

>> No.16059405

>>16058011
So China? Definitely not a Western country

>> No.16059411

>>16058011
Too bad the united states of fagmerica and european gay union contributed to the installation of a puppet government and brainwash our people with niggerfaggot diversity propaganda, there is no more national identity

>> No.16059490

>>16058011
>When your country has a semblance of national identity
It doesn't, gave that up in the 1970s.

>> No.16059532

>>16057722
daily mail

>> No.16060001
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>>16057722
a reliable source

>> No.16060022

>>16060001
Am I possibly not my position and self-position. Like in truly another me or else.

>> No.16060041

>>16060001
Offer this:

I tell you what to do. You do it.

And simultaneously I can

Tell you what to do, you do it.

>> No.16060045

>>16058128
>electric cars are silent and don't pollute my city
Can you read? They DO pollute your city. Enjoy your PM2.5s

>> No.16060060

>>16060001
hilarious that the author's name is a former male pornstar's name.

>> No.16060061

>>16060045
indeed, there's a cornucopia of poisons in car and truck tires... arguably tires are the MOST toxic thing in any vehicle.

>> No.16060456

>>16057776
Its funny because its true

>> No.16060498

>>16057795
when i first invested it was about a car with constant acceleration instead of depreciating acceleration compensated with gear boxes, ideally fewer parts to service, plug it in and charge it for pennies.

than it took green grants from the government, than the narrative became to big to fail, so it got greenwashed and propped as a symbol of virtue.

>> No.16060538

>>16057776
>narrator: the world on the right has religion

>> No.16061194

>>16060498
This video explains the purpose of EVs
https://files.catbox.moe/tv6snm.mp4

>> No.16061269

>>16061194
Are catbox videos really permanent or do they expire?

>> No.16061283

>>16057722
Electric vehicles are mostly sedans, while most gas vehicles (in America) are giant bloated trucks, which are both heavier and obviously use more fuel. This article is disingenuous as fuck. Also, I can't wait for hydrogen powered cars to actually get made.

>> No.16061286

>>16061283
>hydrogen powered cars
why pollute more forever? the losses are unjustified, apart from revenue.

>> No.16061315

>>16057757
Mentally ill.
You'll be euthanized

>> No.16061323

>>16061315
>Mentally ill if you care about your privacy
it's not going to happen hahahaha

>> No.16061347

The answer is that all cars are polluting pieces of shit.

The only thing that needs to happen is every car manufacturer goes bankrupt, and every country in the world reworks their infrastructure entirely. This isnt controversial. I think it's time we acknowledge cars for what they really are: a failed experiment humans cooked up only 100 years ago. In fact "personal transportation" by and large has failed.

>> No.16061354

>>16057774
Electric might be dirtier in terms of particulate matter from brakes/tires, but combustion is clearly dirtier in term combustion outputs (CO2, CO, NO2, benzene, etc.).

>bu bu but muh catalytic converter
Not perfect, it will remove a 90% of the pollution sure, but by and large cars are still shit for air quality. Not to mention CO2s impact on the climate.

>> No.16061359

>>16061347
>a failed experiment humans cooked up only 100 years ago
public transport has been around for quite a while. must be some human related reasons why people would rather drive their own shit. provided there is an infrastructure. car pollution is a very small part that is getting the hate for all pollution, it's disproportionately misrepresented and it happens to be a sort of pleb luxury.
ask for less polluting cars and better car infrastructure you morons, they want to take cars away from you. which also means a retarded high level of extra control over pleb freedom to go wherever the fuck they want, whenever the fuck they want. plus plebs can use those cars to block shit up. idiots in Copenhagen would just get run the fuck over with their retarded bicycles. they trained them like fucking monkeys

>> No.16061363

>>16061359
>car pollution is a very small part that is getting the hate for all pollution
What are you talking about? It was found that kids who live around vehicle pollution have lower IQs, and in general cars are responsible for higher rates of lung cancer in urban areas. Not to mention the noise/light pollution.

It's a failed experiment in the same way asbestos if a failure. You can make "muh freedom" arguments all you want, still doesnt change the fact that nobody deserves to live/be around pollution.

>> No.16061373

>>16061359
>ask for less polluting cars and better car infrastructure you morons
Also the fundamental assumption is that "less polluting vehicles" are even possible, when they arent. Even cutting edge brand new EVs produce a fuck ton of particulate matter, it's a false progress argument. The only solution is to stop cars altogether.

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>>16061363
you are conflating personal vehicles with burning fossil fuel. I am not advocating for fossil fuels, I'd rather have picrel and proper road infrastructure. if you're doing a few miles daily you might even get away with solar charging only. has panels on body.
>>16061373
not really. once cars stop running on fossil fuels then you stop seething about it and move your attention to the real polluters, because that's what you're really after isn't it?

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>> No.16062356

>we’re gonna reduce emissions by making all of the cars run on electricity
>wait what do you mean most of the electricity comes from burning fuels

>> No.16062380

>>16057722
then the science is settled. no more driving for you. and don't forget to wear your mask when you ride the public transport.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8AHkAJrpAxd4/

>> No.16062386

>>16059411
This. By law I have to tolerate shitskins, but not include them.

>> No.16062518

>>16057722
Nuclear powered flying cars is the solution for private transportation (NP trains and ships for cargo). The more these fucking monkeys "intervene" with the markets and "care" about the "environment" (instead of humankind mind you) the longer will have to wait for this.

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>>16059411

>> No.16064710

>>16062518
its dumb that the military can use nuclear powered boats, but nobody else can

>> No.16064726

>>16057774
Not being allowed to leave pod, transitory solutions are climate lockdowns and 15 minutes cities until goyslop piping infrastructure is made.

>> No.16065804

>>16064726
If they can pipe natural gas into my house, why can't they do the same for sneed oils?

>> No.16066000

>>16059397
Desperate in your attempt to avoid any semblance of human contact despite being forced to sit close enough to a foreigner that you can smell him.

>> No.16067191

>>16066000
revolting