/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.16050968]

Massey's Flame Diverter Edition

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[Anonymous No.16050975]

water cooled I guess? first time I've seen that

[Anonymous No.16050981]

By the way credit to Ryan Hansen for making this https://x.com/ryanhansenspace/status/1763356902824559010
>>16050975
It is

[Anonymous No.16050983]

does the spaceflightnow launch schedule just not include starlink anymore?

[Anonymous No.16050984]

>>16050975
isn't the flame diverter at lc39b water cooled?

[Anonymous No.16050987]

>>16050984
no I mean first time I've seen a render of this specific flame diverter

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[Anonymous No.16051011]

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[Anonymous No.16051012]

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[Anonymous No.16051013]

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[Anonymous No.16051014]

>>16050968
i think when starship becomes operational there will be a huge boom for space related companies. how i profit from it? which stocks should i buy?

[Anonymous No.16051015]

>>16051013
rendering of a possible launch tower orientation and location

[Anonymous No.16051016]

>>16051014
most of the interesting ones I've seen are private, but haven't really looked into it

[Anonymous No.16051018]

>>16050981
oh, i really thought this is a trackmania meme.

[Anonymous No.16051023]

>>16051016
ASTR is now 99% down from the value my stock options were granted at in 2022.

[Anonymous No.16051024]

>>16051023
Kek get fucked you black retard I hope all your other BLM investments drop to nothing

[Anonymous No.16051031]

>>16051024
My largest holds are crypto and home equity. I'm doing fine.

[Anonymous No.16051034]

if they make a bigger starship later, like 12m diameter, will they also make bigger raptors? they don't scale, correct

[Anonymous No.16051037]

>>16051034
no they wont make a bigger raptor

[Anonymous No.16051042]

>>16051034
Incorrect, Raptors do scale in usage why do you think there are fucking 33 of them on the booster.

[Anonymous No.16051044]

What would you do with the energy output of a superheavy launch

[Anonymous No.16051046]

>>16051044
Make rocket go up

[Anonymous No.16051049]

>>16051042
This is proof the captcha needs to be deleted

[Anonymous No.16051082]

>>16051044
Launch

[Anonymous No.16051084]

Sup, this is the chosen thread for my base of operations on sci. Since I'll be here all night, I'll say right now you can ask me anything since I'm very creative. The aliens have been delivering me extremely important messages. Their last message was when they mentioned sci, I could tell, they were pretty sad about it. I'm not sure why and I'm here to research into this. Since I don't like seeing the aliens frown. I'll be posting here about aliens over the next 36 months since I don't have a job

[Anonymous No.16051085]

>>16051084
take your lithium

[Anonymous No.16051086]

>>16051084
Kill yourself faggot /sfg/ is full and you need to get the fuck out

[Anonymous No.16051089]

>>16051085
Lithium doesn't actually do anything since theres really aliens lol

[Anonymous No.16051090]

[Anonymous No.16051091]

>>16051086
Untrue and here's why. Youll need to find twitch usernames which have

That's their idea of humor, heh, so ueah nobody real is even reading this and I feel literally nothing

[Anonymous No.16051092]

>>16051089
Get out now. Go bother /med/ instead those fags love aliens

[Anonymous No.16051093]

>>16051091
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>>16051089
why are you 'trolling outside of /b/'?

[Anonymous No.16051124]

>>16050984
nah they just chuck water onto it. Water doesn't actually flow beneath the diverter surface.

[Anonymous No.16051140]

>>16051044
>38 terajoules
die

[Anonymous No.16051157]

3 body problem confirms the moon will never have starlink

[Anonymous No.16051161]

>>16051090
doesn't seem real

[Anonymous No.16051173]

>>16051157
3 body problem is shit

[Anonymous No.16051179]

Soyuz

[Anonymous No.16051181]

>>16051157
Dont tell determinists about 3 body problem.

[Anonymous No.16051184]

>>16051181
chaos can be entirely deterministic, don't confuse chaos with indeterminism

[Anonymous No.16051186]

>>16051179
Cool angle. It's a bit surprising how (relatively) benign that launch environment for the Soyuz is compared to more modern rockets.

[Anonymous No.16051193]

To say nothing of the sheer force of a Starship launch

[Anonymous No.16051195]

>>16051179
The Soyuz launch clamps are a kino design

[Anonymous No.16051201]

She's seriously cute

[Anonymous No.16051203]

>>16051044
launch things into space the RIGHT way

[Anonymous No.16051223]

Anyone remember Reaction Engines and Skylon?

A quick recap of the recent history--their native bongland and ESA basically ignored them or gave them pennies at best, but in 2017 DARPA started throwing dosh at them and arranged testing of their revolutionary engine precooler in the US in 2018. Also during 2018 in the US, an unremarkable startup Hermeus popped up, promising hypersonic flight like so many aero/spaceflight startups that never go anywhere.
Fast forward to present day and Hermeus has somehow solved the same precooler problem for their hypersonic engines, seemingly without the necessary R&D investment. US really knows how to grab promising tech and has the enterpreneurship possibilities to exploit that.
I thought you might find this interesting.

[Anonymous No.16051231]

BRILLIANT PEBBLES

[Anonymous No.16051237]

>>16051223
Euros really are the best at letting innovative tech flounder.

[Anonymous No.16051239]

>>16051237
Brits in particular when it comes to spaceflight.
You could say they invented the disposable space [unsupportedspoiler]program[/spoiler].

[Anonymous No.16051240]

>>16051044
Grill

[Anonymous No.16051243]

>>16051239
Saddest kek

[Anonymous No.16051248]

By our powers combined

[Anonymous No.16051250]

>>16051248
do not do this

[Anonymous No.16051253]

>>16051239
Many such cases. They did everything first, now they're the worst.

[Anonymous No.16051257]

>>16051223
I don't think the Hermeus precooler is on the same level as RELs one. They are just talking about a combined turbojet/ram jet, which people have tried to do before. They don't seem to be talking about launch at all. They have very little detail on their website, it's mostly filled with buzzwords for investment and unnecessary pictures of their diverse staff.
It's also a bit moronic as they talk about building a new SR-71, which never happened before because spy satellites. But now LM is developing the SR-72, without their precooler.

[Anonymous No.16051258]

>>16051044
mating press

[Anonymous No.16051261]

>>16051237
It'll be daijoubu, just gotta coax US into stealing it and eventually the western world gets the benefits.

[Anonymous No.16051262]

>>16051201
I'm gonna stick my dick in her exhaust

[Anonymous No.16051278]

>>16051257
The operating envelope and temperatures are basically the same. Nobody but REL and Hermeus have done this.
Yet Hermeus hasn't had world-class thermal engineers on their payroll, barely even any average ones. Lots of open positions though, even to date!

Hermeus is just not going for the airbreathing rocket engine SSTO meme but the infinitely more marketable high speed pax flight (which REL also pivoted towards when funding wasn't happening), and also defense applications--basically going for a modern XB-70 inspired waverider rather than SR-71.

[Anonymous No.16051283]

>>16051262
you wont do any such thing

[Anonymous No.16051285]

>>16051278
Do you have a source on the temperatures being the same? Can't find any details.
>XB-70 inspired waverider
Speaking of memes. A project that got cancelled in the 60s because it made no sense and makes less now.

[Anonymous No.16051293]

I didn’t realize don pettit was not only still active, but is currently part of the backup crew for the upcoming soyuz MS-25 launch

[Anonymous No.16051310]

>>16051285
look, anon, I want to go visit Japan but don't want to be on a plane for 25 hours

[Anonymous No.16051312]

>>16051084
Are chemical rockets the right choice of space propulsion at our tech level?

[Anonymous No.16051316]

>>16051312
yeah

[Anonymous No.16051323]

>>16051009
Are "private land" just some lots owned by random people that never sold to SpaceX?

[Anonymous No.16051327]

>>16051323
yes

[Anonymous No.16051331]

>>16051009
That's one boomer asking for some stupid amount of money so SpaceX sued him.

[Anonymous No.16051348]

>>16051331
both of the plots of land are owned by the same person?

[Anonymous No.16051356]

>>16051348
Oh, I just noticed the second one. No idea.

[Anonymous No.16051364]

>>16051157
The book or the actual problem?

[Anonymous No.16051409]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/nasa-engineers-rally-to-save-voyager-1-the-icon-of-space-exploration/ar-BB1isMn1

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[Anonymous No.16051435]

>>16051014
>>>/biz/ for sure

[Anonymous No.16051444]

>>16051031
I hope rioters burn your house down with you and your wife's son in it

[Anonymous No.16051446]

Is there spaceflight admiral?

[Anonymous No.16051447]

>>16051034
yeah, they'll also make it out of larger atoms

[Anonymous No.16051448]

>>16051237
The term "innovative" is meaningless buzzword. If something is innovative, there is innovation involved. Innovation necessarily means its being put out on the market. If its not on the market, then its just a dumb lab project. There are millions of lab projects. Lab projects are just 1 step away from arxiv/patent respository library where 99% of the stuff never gets created. And for labs, 99% dont make it to reality.

Innovative is only when there's an actual innovation happening. And the term "innovation" means making it real, in hardware.

[Anonymous No.16051450]

>>16051446
No, spaceflight ranks are taken from air force.

[Anonymous No.16051453]

Man I wish there was no war and only love on Earth and in Space

[Anonymous No.16051458]

>>16051453
Imagine what the Russians could have done by investing as much effort in space (including fighting corruption) as they did by "invading" Ukraine.

[Anonymous No.16051473]

>>16051428
What a nice family photo.

[Anonymous No.16051474]

>>16051179
Onionuz
onions uz

[Anonymous No.16051483]

https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1763557313494061069
Rockets return to Kodiak

[Anonymous No.16051498]

>>16051458
Why would the leadership fight itself.

[Anonymous No.16051501]

>already march
>Not even fullstack
>Not even WDR

Spx bros... Whats taking so long...

[Anonymous No.16051503]

>>16051483
Let's see if the Curse of Kodiak will strike again.

[Anonymous No.16051511]

>rocket goes up
>rocket comes down
>rocket goes up
>rocket comes down
>rocket goes up
>rocket comes down
>rocket goes up [You are Here]
>rocket comes down
>rocket goes up
>rocket goes way up

[Anonymous No.16051512]

Biden failed to visit Becoa Chica

[Anonymous No.16051539]

Hi /sfg/,do you remember me? im the "when are we leaving this planet bros" guy. I havent been posting for a couple of days because ive been depressed when I realized its not going to be intellestelar travels in my lifetime. I talked about this with my psychologist, he told me i shouldnt watch or pay atention to space flights or even any space news to get over my intellestelar dreams, and i should look for other hobbies. therefore im not gonna be on /sfg/ anymore. Thank you guys for make me dream like a kid and feeding a fantasy that is impossible, goodbay

[Anonymous No.16051552]

>>16051539
see you tomorrow

[Anonymous No.16051567]

>>16051539
Having a dream and not acting to make it reality sounds like Earther talk to me

[Anonymous No.16051569]

>>16051539
you were always a pessimistic doomer faggot

[Anonymous No.16051573]

>>16051539
Hi anon. I'm sorry you were feeling let down by your unrealistic expectations of spaceflight progress but I'm glad you've sought professional help. go out there and live your best life on the only planet we know doesn't totally suck

[Anonymous No.16051580]

>>16051539
>paying people primed to keep you depressed so you keep paying them
lmao, retard
The space age will have started anew in ten years.
Unless you're decrepit baby boomer, you should love to see it.

[Anonymous No.16051592]

uhh that doesn't look lined up right

[Anonymous No.16051605]

>>16051592
jesus fucking christ

[Anonymous No.16051610]

it's over

[Anonymous No.16051612]

>stack
>destack
>stack
>destack
>stack
>destack
>stack
>destack

[Anonymous No.16051626]

Owari da.

>Astra founders warn of "imminent bankruptcy." The founders of satellite propulsion and launch vehicle company Astra have sharply cut their offer to take the company private, warning of “imminent bankruptcy” if the company doesn’t accept their new proposal, Space News reports. In a US Securities and Exchange Commission filing on Tuesday, Astra released a letter sent three days earlier to a special committee of the company’s board of directors from Chris Kemp and Adam London, the chief executive and chief technology officer, slashing by two-thirds their offer to buy outstanding shares of the publicly traded company.

>Pray I don't alter it further ... In November, Kemp and London proposed to buy Astra shares at $1.50, approximately double their price at the time they announced the deal. In the new proposal, they are offering only $0.50 per share. Kemp and London cited several reasons for cutting the share price. They included continued cash burn by the company since they tendered the original offer and higher “non-operating expenses” as the company used multiple third-party advisers to assess options. Under the revised proposal, Kemp and London said they anticipated raising $45 million overall to take Astra private, of which $7.7 million would go to shareholders. (submitted by Ken the Bin)

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/03/rocket-report-astra-warns-of-imminent-bankruptcy-falcon-heavy-launch-delay/

[Anonymous No.16051635]

>>16051626
For how long it has been on the verge of bankruptcy already?

[Anonymous No.16051652]

>>16051635
They haven't launched anything since I left in 2022. They were supposed to be launching Rocket 4 by Q2 2024 if they wanted to survive.

[Anonymous No.16051653]

Rockets are so cool, bros.

[Anonymous No.16051657]

>>16051483
Nice
Is it easier to get permits to launch from Kodiak?

[Anonymous No.16051658]

>>16051626
Disastra

[Anonymous No.16051661]

well they are very phallic

[Anonymous No.16051663]

>>16051661
meant to reply to this guy with the rocket fixation
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[Anonymous No.16051664]

>>16051592
I think it always looks like this, although I thought the recent alignment pin changes were intended to alleviate it, guess not

[Anonymous No.16051683]

>>16051539
You dont know that
If AGI happens, there are paths to interstellar travel (or even without AGI)
For example biological immortality + "generation ships"

[Anonymous No.16051693]

>>16051539
I’d be down for destructive brain scanning, to see the future.

[Anonymous No.16051714]

>>16051539
Total Psychologist Death

[Anonymous No.16051718]

https://europeanspaceflight.com/esa-to-begin-work-on-mars-transfer-vehicle-mission-concept/

>The European Space Agency has published a pair of calls aimed at beginning work on an electric propulsion transfer stage that would be used to ferry passenger spacecraft to orbit around Mars.

>With the EP Tug, ESA aims to extend in-space transportation services to other planets, starting with Mars. The initiative will fall under the agency’s Terrae Novae programme, which was adopted by member states in December 2014 under the name European Exploration Envelope Programme.

[Anonymous No.16051727]

>>16051718
>ESA
>Relevant on any level
Kino program name though. True evropa.

[Anonymous No.16051732]

Fags

[Anonymous No.16051739]

>>16051258
Who?

[Anonymous No.16051748]

>>16051693
>I’d be down for destructive brain scanning,
>to see the future.
Non-sequitur.

[Anonymous No.16051757]

>>16051748
NTA
>a guy a lot like me would be glad to see me dead so he could live where I cannot
>I agree with him

Fuck brain copy culture. When I'm dead I'm dead and I'm haunting anyone waltzing around with a copy of me.

[Anonymous No.16051759]

>>16051539
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[Anonymous No.16051762]

>>16051240
gigabased
>>16051044
bind, torture and kill all birds, beetles and wildlife

[Anonymous No.16051766]

>>16051757
why wait until you're dead?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikiry%C5%8D

[Anonymous No.16051775]

>>16051285
The XB-70 got canceled because Mach 3 wasn't enough to outrun SAMs. Hermeus and LM are both aiming for Mach 5 which is.

[Anonymous No.16051778]

>>16051775
>Mach 5
if they can launch from standard airports then suborbital passenger e2e is dead

[Anonymous No.16051779]

>>16051778
That's why they're getting fedbux, to cuck Elon. And yes, the plan is for the engine to be a turbofan below ramjet transition speeds so it can take standard avgas and use standard runways.

[Anonymous No.16051786]

>>16051779
e2e was always a pipe dream imo - the stupendous noise of rocket take off, the need for IVA suits for passengers, passengers not coping with free fall and acceleration etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.16051791]

>>16051778
sonic booms are still a thing (yeah I know about the duck-nosed NASA plane, call me when the TRL is not at 3)

[Anonymous No.16051798]

>>16051786
The need for IVA suits is the biggest problem. Shaneequapotamus isn't gonna fit into one and thus the whole service would be deemed "rayciss".

[Anonymous No.16051810]

>>16051786
>the need for IVA suits for passengers
that's retarded. why would they need that

[Anonymous No.16051811]

[Anonymous No.16051813]

>>16051810
Even SR-71 crews with pressurized cabins wore pumpkin suits just in case.

[Anonymous No.16051814]

>>16051813
Stupid
E2E is gay and retarded but nobody ever was planning on doing it with pressure suits

[Anonymous No.16051815]

Supersonic passenger air travel > E2E Starship

[Anonymous No.16051819]

>>16051798
>The need for IVA suits is the biggest problem
Also people change weight and therefore shape. I guess if you design them well with advanced materials you might be able to adjust them a bit and get some leeway but they're not going to be cheap. And then there's children - they'll grow out of the suit very quickly. Easier to have a lower age limit but you've then shrunk your market.

[Anonymous No.16051823]

>>16051819
SHUT the fuck up.
IVA suits for E2E is the most delusional thing I ever heard.
Just don't lose cabin pressure. You already depend on that when you're in orbit or on the ISS.

[Anonymous No.16051826]

>>16051791
Yes but the most lucrative routes will be over oceans and sparsely populated land. I doubt US Mach 5 coast to coast will happen even with boom mitigation

[Anonymous No.16051835]

>>16051823
>when you're in orbit or on the ISS
you wear them on the way up and down which is what an e2e craft will spend much of its time doing

[Anonymous No.16051836]

>>16051811
Stop posting my picture you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.16051841]

>>16051826
>I doubt US Mach 5 coast to coast will happen even with boom mitigation
Boom mitigation requires a needly shape that's all wrong for hypersonic flight anyway. You can have Mach 1-2 boom mitigation with turbofans or you can go faster.

[Anonymous No.16051848]

>>16051841
Yeah they're aiming at Mach 1.4 for mitigation designs iirc. Twice the speed of current passenger jets is cool but its slower than Concorde. Worthwhile but not a revolution like Mach 5 would be.

[Anonymous No.16051849]

>>16051775
Just like the U-2 flew above the range of Soviet SAMs, until it didn't.

[Anonymous No.16051851]

>>16051835
they take them off for the several hours that dragon spends drifting around

[Anonymous No.16051852]

>>16051849
Russia has to this day not demonstrated anything capable of going Mach 5 except for space rockets and ballistic missiles. A maneuvering SAM that can chase down a jet at Mach 5 is completely beyond them.

[Anonymous No.16051856]

>>16051851
Ascent and reentry are when the forces and energies impinging on the vehicle are at maximum so that is the most probable time for cabin pressure to fail. The Soviets found out the hard way what happens when your crew doesn't have IVA suits for those phases of flight.

[Anonymous No.16051857]

>>16051852
>chase down

This is why you think ICBM cannot be intercepted.

[Anonymous No.16051858]

>>16051857
Jets are not ballistic, if you put a missile on an intercept course to a fixed point in front of them they can just see it and dodge.

[Anonymous No.16051864]

>>16051852
Russia isn't a near-peer adversary, no. How confident are you that China won't be able to?

[Anonymous No.16051874]

Do you think in the future we will come to this look and no stages? I understand why we have stages on rockets, but on the other hand it seems like a dead end to me

[Anonymous No.16051876]

>>16051852
Russia claims S-500s can hit Mach 5 targets. Of course they haven't "demonstrated" it, they would not even if it works.
It's stupid to spend billions on a aircraft program which is so easily countered. If Mach 3 wasn't fast enough in 1960 then Mach 5 isn't in 2030.

[Anonymous No.16051884]

do you think in the future we will come to this look and no wings? I understand why we have wings on airplanes but on the other hand wings seem like a dead end to me

[Anonymous No.16051885]

>>16051858
>if you put a missile on an intercept course to a fixed point in front of them

Anon I...

[Anonymous No.16051892]

Do you think in the future we will come to this look and no bitches? I understand why we have bitches on rockets, but on the other hand it seems like a dead end to me

[Anonymous No.16051901]

>>16051864
Pretty confident, actually.

[Anonymous No.16051907]

I don't care what anyone says, SLS is a fantastic jobs program and its a critical national launch capability (can launch moon, mars, interplanetary, national security and planetary defense missions).

[Anonymous No.16051914]

>>16051907
>SLS is a fantastic jobs program
ok but surely we could have gotten more for our money with fewer delays

[Anonymous No.16051924]

>>16051907
Orbital launches:

SLS: 1
Starshit: 0

Spacexfags cope

[Anonymous No.16051951]

>>16051914
SLS isn't really the biggest problem. It's a budgetary disgrace, but most of that is money that's years past spent by now.

The real problem is SLS Block 2. We're spending (at least) $1.5 billion on ML-2 just to get it to the pad and (at least) $3 billion on the Exploration Upper Stage, all so we can have a version of SLS that can comanifest two modules for Gateway. Beyond I-HAB and ESPRIT there are exactly zero plans for doing anything with all of this new capacity that we're spending $5B to add on to SLS.

[Anonymous No.16051954]

>>16051203
Nani the fuck am I looking at?

[Anonymous No.16051958]

>>16051951
>Beyond I-HAB and ESPRIT there are exactly zero plans for doing anything with all of this new capacity that we're spending $5B to add on to SLS.
Surely they intend on using Block 2 for yeeting whole fission reactors into space for NTP/NEP testing.

[Anonymous No.16051966]

>>16051954
A lightcraft laser-launch facility powered by a combination of grid power and using F-1 engines eating RP-1 seeded with potassium to power a magnetohydrodynamic generator.

https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/surfaceorbit.php#id--Laser_Launch--Lightcraft

That image is on the above-linked page if you scroll up a bit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetohydrodynamic_generator

Some crazy old boomer is actually developing MHD rockets in his garage since he intends them to use them in both power-in (thrust/jet-power amplification) and power-out (generation) modes for an orbital airship.

https://www.youtube.com/@johnmpowell/videos

[Anonymous No.16051969]

https://www.nasa.gov/missions/update-on-status-of-nasas-osam-1-project/
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/01/nasa-shuts-down-maxar-led-osam-1-satellite-refueling-project.html
>OSAM-1 cancelled
Another one bites the dust.

[Anonymous No.16051983]

>>16051969
>and a broader community evolution away from refueling unprepared spacecraft
wait what

[Anonymous No.16051991]

>>16051958
You could physically, but certifying a rocket to carry crew and a nuclear reactor on the same launch would be a regulatory nightmare.

[Anonymous No.16051992]

>>16051991
Who fucking cares about cowmanifested crew? We need Block 2 Cargo Only for launching big reactors.

[Anonymous No.16051996]

>>16051958
Large nuclear power sources are really the only payload a cargo SLS is viable for as long as SpaceX avoids that regulatory hurdle.

[Anonymous No.16052020]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUr18OkIkYM
>Test Stand 4670: Building on a Legacy

[Anonymous No.16052081]

I sense a photo-op

[Anonymous No.16052084]

>>16052081
Is this loss?

[Anonymous No.16052096]

>>16051996
In that case I hope we see multiple SLS Block 2 launches a year until NASA decides paying SpaceX to get certified is less agonizing than pissing $10B/yr in launch costs down the orange drain.

[Anonymous No.16052097]

>>16051996
Yeah the point is the rocket will exist as long as Congress wants it to exist.
So if it's going to exist we might as well go for very niche capabilities.
SLS + Draco wen?

[Anonymous No.16052101]

>>16052081
great weather

[Anonymous No.16052103]

>>16051511
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7z57qrZU8&pp=ygUQd2VhcG9uIG9mIGNob2ljZQ%3D%3D
here's your tune bro

[Anonymous No.16052107]

>>16051983
Not enough companies want to pay big bucks to keep their old birds aloft vs sending up new ones designed from the start to be serviceable.

[Anonymous No.16052110]

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[Anonymous No.16052115]

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[Anonymous No.16052136]

sfg told me no later than mid february
its march now

[Anonymous No.16052137]

Something going on here.

[Anonymous No.16052141]

>>16050714
>They'll need to figure out how to make transparent aluminium first.
It's called ALON, Aluminum Oxynitride, and it's an available product. It was first under development in the early 1980s, and the writers of Star Trek IV heard about it and incorporated it into the script as Transparent Aluminum. That's the first time it was mentioned in Star Trek.
>Uhhhhm but that's a ceramic not really aluminum *scoffs*
When Scotty brings it up on the computer screen to sell the formula to the plexiglass guy, you can see it's some complex compound, it's not just Aluminum.
Transparent Aluminum is ALON

[Anonymous No.16052142]

[Anonymous No.16052147]

S28 and S29 linked up FEED IT OR SNEED IT??!!

[Anonymous No.16052157]

>>16051657
Yes
ABL originally wanted to fly out of Vandenberg but moved operations to Kodiak since it was easier. Also, in Markusic's Estronaut interview, he prided himself in having a rocket qualified to fly out of Vandy (before its first launch IIRC) and implied that Kodiak was for unreliable rockets. Astra validated both claims. I think Kodiak is only owned by Alaska's government.

[Anonymous No.16052159]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/01/lockheed-martin-looks-to-acquire-terran-orbital-for-about-600-million.html
>Lockheed Martin looks to acquire spacecraft maker Terran Orbital for nearly $600 million

[Anonymous No.16052163]

>>16051483
the gooberment WANTS small rocket(s) on kodiak.

[Anonymous No.16052178]

>>16052157
Kodiak is for rockets that are at least a little bit desperate. I'm trying to find a spaceport that would be less ass to transport your rocket to and I'm coming up dry.

[Anonymous No.16052179]

>>16052178
assuming you meant "more ass to transport to" I'm going to put forward Sea Launch which was off the coast of Eastern Africa

[Anonymous No.16052184]

>>16052157
IIRC the launch fee for Vandy is like $5,000,000 so it has to be really worth it. Kodiak is a lot cheaper if your rocket can get there.

[Anonymous No.16052186]

>>16052178
Kodiak is idea to demonstrate what the USSF wants, rockets that do not need decades of established infrastructure and can guarantee access to space in a hot war with China.

[Anonymous No.16052190]

>>16052179
For Sea Launch you loaded the rocket onto a boat while it was in a major commercial port and then sail that down into equatorial latitudes. For Kodiak you still need to take a long boat ride, but then you also need to unload the rocket onto a truck and drive that along forty miles of winding rural Alaskan "highway" before you actually get to the launch complex.

[Anonymous No.16052206]

>>16052190
Astra used a C-130 to fly the rogget. They put it on a truck and drove it through downtown Alameda (picrel) to the Oakland airport which was right next to the other end of the island. Then it flew up to I think Seattle to stop over for fuel (and payload integration if it was for Spaceflight, Inc.)

[Anonymous No.16052223]

kek

[Anonymous No.16052226]

>>16052223
>PUSSY IN BIO
wat

[Anonymous No.16052231]

Sierra station looks so much cooler than orbital reef

[Anonymous No.16052234]

>>16052226
twitter bot thing that has become a meme

[Anonymous No.16052237]

>>16052223
NRO is getting Ethan Ralph levels of twitter engagement

[Anonymous No.16052239]

>>16052231
orbital reef more like orbital gay faggot homosex lmao gottem

[Anonymous No.16052240]

>>16052226
it's total bot meltdown.
they get auto hidden and banned enough so they can't afford premium.
wonder why they even do it.

[Anonymous No.16052241]

>>16052231
I thought we hated inflatable habs?

[Anonymous No.16052244]

>>16052241
No we didn't we love inflatable habs, inflatable habs are our friends.

[Anonymous No.16052245]

[Anonymous No.16052251]

>>16052244
Inflatable habs are a tech meme whose window of opportunity is rapidly closing. They're a good idea when launches are very expensive, mass-autistic, and require payloads to fit into small fairings. Once you start dealing with cheap super-heavy lifters like New Glenn or Starship inflatables become pointless really quick.

[Anonymous No.16052252]

When IFT-3?

[Anonymous No.16052253]

>>16052252
1-2 weeks

[Anonymous No.16052255]

Fucking muskfags shitting up the thread again with their shitty LEO raptor autism. Glorified cargo-hauling at leo with horrible metha-lox scaling will not get us to Mars. Cope harder.

[Anonymous No.16052258]

>>16052141
>not be confused with ELON, I know they're only divided by an S curve

[Anonymous No.16052262]

Can someone post this on the Dvatch space board? I don’t know how to use that moon rune site

[Anonymous No.16052264]

>>16052262
Btw, why are Latin Americans so annoying with this

[Anonymous No.16052265]

>>16052264
They implicitly know that their countries belong to us and are salty about it.

[Anonymous No.16052279]

will elon's fat overweight obese ass even survive to see humans landing on mars? hes getting old and fat.

[Anonymous No.16052284]

>>16052255
KEEEK
>he doesn't understand orbital refilling

[Anonymous No.16052288]

>>16052251
their window doesn't close until in space manufacturing is a mature technology. yeah you can fit a 800 cubic meter rigid hab in starship. Or you could fit a 3.5 cubic kilometer inflatable hab. space stations in the future aren't going to be 3 and 4 digit cubic meter cope huts. people are going to expect volumes in the tens of thousands of cubic meters. maybe hundreds of thousands.

[Anonymous No.16052292]

>>16051446
Gonna need to wait until there's enough crewed ships to justify appointing a space admiral.

[Anonymous No.16052297]

>>16052264
I dislike how their gutter Latin lacks a separate word for "not"

[Anonymous No.16052304]

>>16052264
Canada and Mexico get the victory with us I guess kek

[Anonymous No.16052305]

>>16051450
This will change. Air force ranks will be for planetside commanders. Fleet career paths will be indicated by fleet ranks.
In any case the commander of a ship will always be addressed as Captain no matter his formal rank, much like in the navy where his actual rank is usually Lt Cmdr

[Anonymous No.16052307]

>>16052264
Its cus here people dont know when you say "america" in the anglo world means US only, now if you speak spanish and call "america" to the US you really sound like a amerimutts cock sucker

[Anonymous No.16052311]

>>16052265
the Monroe Doctrine has dealt an incredible amount of damage to their psyche

[Anonymous No.16052312]

>>16052307
It's like Starship. It both the name for the whole and a part of it.

[Anonymous No.16052313]

>>16052288
>3.5 cubic km
You mean 3500 cubic meters

[Anonymous No.16052316]

>>16052307
But Mexico is also estados unidos. Easier to just say America, latinx boi.

[Anonymous No.16052320]

>>16051458
They were stopped by the promoters of niggers just as the west was stopped by it's care of feeding of them pushed by these same promoters.

[Anonymous No.16052324]

Starbase more like Photo-op-base.
Why is there 29 next to the stack, don't they have a rocket to launch instead of dicking around?

[Anonymous No.16052327]

>>16052324
blame FAA

[Anonymous No.16052328]

>>16051539
Dude I was five to almost nine years old during Apollo 11 to 17. 11 to 14 for Skylab. And 16 when the first Space Shuttle launched. I grew up with Star Trek, The Jetsons, Space 1999, and 2001: A Space Odyssey as all part of popular culture. Pan Am Airways was selling reservations for tourist trips to the moon expeced by the late 80's.

So you have NO idea how much of a let down the last 35 years has been...

[Anonymous No.16052332]

>>16052328
>I was five to almost nine years old during Apollo 11
go back to nsf forum boomoid

[Anonymous No.16052334]

>>16052313
yeah, same thing

[Anonymous No.16052335]

>>16052328
Do you not remember the year you were born?!

[Anonymous No.16052338]

>>16052335
based retard

[Anonymous No.16052339]

>>16051539
good riddance

[Anonymous No.16052345]

>16051539 (not giving this fag a (You))
hey just letting you retards know about this guy, this is the flat earther that always frequented this general and posted a bunch of scat porn one day when janny banned him. his file names are the same and he only appeared after his recognizable previous posts got him instabanned, so im assuming hes just demoralizing now instead to dodge bans because he's a pussy. he will be here tomorrow doing the same thing over and over, and when janny finally bans him again watch the scat porn come flooding in.

[Anonymous No.16052347]

>>16052345
are you sure it's not the tranny who loves von Braun having a moodswing?

[Anonymous No.16052350]

>>16052345
I concur. The wording of the current spam is very obviously the same as the flerfer spam.
I've said this before

[Anonymous No.16052351]

>>16052328
> someone even older than me is here

[Anonymous No.16052356]

>>16052345
Take your meds you stupid fat nigger

[Anonymous No.16052358]

>>16052356
You're either a newfag or 80 iq.
The wording is clearly the same

[Anonymous No.16052359]

>>16052358
its the flat earther trying to samefag so 80 iq.

[Anonymous No.16052365]

>>16052334
How many times do we have to tell you that 1000m^3 ≠ 1 cubic km

[Anonymous No.16052368]

>>16052365

[Anonymous No.16052370]

>>16052365
newfag

[Anonymous No.16052371]

>>16052311
Not enough.

[Anonymous No.16052373]

The only good use of inflatable habs is for temporary construction volumes for real structures.

[Anonymous No.16052377]

>>16052373
Yeah but why would you want that instead badass construction workers (mexican) in EVA suits and robots?

[Anonymous No.16052378]

>>16052358
Go suck jannys cock you faggot

[Anonymous No.16052380]

>>16052373
You put a condom on a satellite?

[Anonymous No.16052385]

>>16052377
Exactly, I want handheld spacesuit electron beam welding kits.

[Anonymous No.16052389]

Someone give me a basic rocket design I want to practice my CAD. I did this one before for someone in /sfg/

[Anonymous No.16052390]

>>16052389
yeah looks fine
go to atomic rockets and find something idk

[Anonymous No.16052398]

>>16051966
This crazy old boomer is interesting. Thnx.

[Anonymous No.16052399]

>>16052389
I don't think you understand how fuel tanks work

[Anonymous No.16052402]

I haven’t talked much about what is obviously the most important thing happening on earth, and it feels wrong. The genocide of Palestinian people by the Israeli government.

I don’t know what to say about it. It’s terrible. I’m ashamed to enable it.

[Anonymous No.16052409]

>>16052399
Its how the anon I made it for drew his rocket dont blame me for following instructions as I was given.

[Anonymous No.16052423]

>>16052389
Maybe do an Orion design for fun. Lots of room to use your imagination
I got the pic from here.
https://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/realdesigns2.php
The site has tons of designs and engine info but it's run by megaboomers who have no sense for practical web design

[Anonymous No.16052427]

>>16052389
>>16052423
KSP+RSS+Nuke mods.

[Anonymous No.16052428]

>>16052264
Remind me again why we dont annex this entire continent?

[Anonymous No.16052432]

>>16052428
browns

[Anonymous No.16052434]

>>16052432
the only humane thing to do is take their countries and exploit them directly. if you are a moral person you would support this

[Anonymous No.16052438]

>>16052428
>Remind me again why we dont annex this entire continent?
Give it time. The US of A needs to go through some serious reforms before that's going to happen.

[Anonymous No.16052440]

>>16052423
Fantastic website, which I found to be organized quite well. It's true that Thermonuclear Pulse propulsion (and by that I mean Orion, maybe daedelus in a few centuries) is our best bet for interstellar travel and interplanetary colonization with current tech:
http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/109.jvn.spring00/nuc_rocket/Dyson.pdf

Let us not forget the dream of our nuclear forefathers.

[Anonymous No.16052451]

>>16052440
There are better, still-realistic options than just vanilla Orion

[Anonymous No.16052452]

>>16052451
like the NSWR

[Anonymous No.16052456]

>>16052428
You mutts cant even control the niggers from your shithole and you want to take us? LMAO

[Anonymous No.16052466]

>>16052223
If it got leaked that the NRO can just look directly through your roof I wouldn't be suprised

[Anonymous No.16052479]

>>16052159
lmao where's the antitrust cops when you need them. LockMart must be getting fucking desperate to fix their backlog if they're outright going to buy someone to get more manufacturing capacity

Terran Orbital were the guys who did CAPSTONE by the way, so this would also put LockMart directly in line to grab a slice of upcoming moonsats or constellations

[Anonymous No.16052484]

>>16052456
Are you a venny or colombiano or what. NTA btw im an argie mutt

[Anonymous No.16052487]

>>16052423
This is gonna be a long term project I think but I'll do it.

[Anonymous No.16052490]

Wikipedia crawling rn and noticed that Neutron was announced on this day, 2021

[Anonymous No.16052495]

>>16052490
neutron is barely 3 years into development and anons are losing their piss that it may not launch this year?
how long ago was ITS announced? BFR? MCR?

[Anonymous No.16052496]

>>16052487
>https://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/realdesigns2.php
They actually specified something even better so I think I'll use this instead

[Anonymous No.16052499]

>>16052496
>>16052423
fucking bastard zubrin you tricked me into doing your work for you

[Anonymous No.16052500]

>>16052490
Easily not launching before 2029, either.

[Anonymous No.16052504]

zubrin if you want me to model your lander then atleast give me clear dimensions to work with this shit >>16052496 is smudgy as fuck

[Anonymous No.16052510]

>>16051907
Does that have furry porn in it? If not what's the point of downloading anything SLS related?

[Anonymous No.16052511]

>>16052510
just checked it for you it has none. there is no point dont download it just view it from browser

[Anonymous No.16052515]

>>16052377
Because I don't want bottles of piss and shit in my hab after they are done

[Anonymous No.16052526]

>>16052389
CADing up a rocket isn't really that big of a challenge; it's just cylinders and shit.

Draw me up a turbopump or something instead

[Anonymous No.16052532]

>>16052484
Im argentinian

[Anonymous No.16052551]

Imagine how CLEAN and DESIGNED Launch Tower V2 will be....

[Anonymous No.16052552]

way out here on eris you can get a nice view of the solar system's central plane and all the planets. a little dysnomia in the image because i remember that anon

[Anonymous No.16052554]

>>16052499
>Martin Marietta alum
I miss when they made rockets and nukes in Colorado, it was a one stop nuclear armageddon shop

[Anonymous No.16052586]

tidally locked

[Anonymous No.16052602]

>>16052128
>and starship is also failing harder than F0 development did
Does it, though?

[Anonymous No.16052614]

>>16052128
Im going to throw you under Starship stop posting these fat retards like SG5 and CSS here you dumb cattle.

[Anonymous No.16052619]

At least its not Yet Another Soyuz Clone

[Anonymous No.16052628]

>>16051852
>>16051775
Mig-31 is already going Mach 3 and R-37 it's armed with has max sped Mach 6. It's not very manueverable missile, but I doubt wave rider is exactly a nimble dogfigter.
Tweaking strategic level SAM like S-500 or HQ-9 with faster burning engine is relatively trivial, you just trade max range for speed.
They are perfectly capable of taking your hypothetical Mach 5 bomber with existing weapons - if they detect it soon enough.

[Anonymous No.16052629]

>>16051082
god that moment was glorious watching it in real life

[Anonymous No.16052632]

>>16050968
The fuck did Elon mean by moment of inertia when he was talking about Porsche with Joe Rogan. Also the flame diverter is starting to look more and more like a traditional flame diverter.

[Anonymous No.16052633]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVNktBKkEuU
>Starbase Is Gearing Up For IFT-3! - Starbase Gallery [Feb 21st - 27th, 2024]

[Anonymous No.16052636]

>>16051186
>It's a bit surprising how (relatively) benign that launch environment for the Soyuz is compared to more modern rockets.
please stop sperging out about how energetic and powerful rocket launches are. Mundane materials such as mild steel, concrete and water can handle rocket launches fine.

[Anonymous No.16052638]

>>16052628
>just make your SRB burn faster bro it'll be fine
haha yeah that's a good joke

[Anonymous No.16052637]

>>16052632
how easy or difficult it is to rotate the car i.e. how easy it is to control
you want the car to have as small as a moment of inertia as possible through the z- axis going through average mass point (I don't remember what the word for this was and I'm too lazy to keep googling, mean mass point? lol)

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/how-find-moment-of-inertia-for-car-in-turn.1056719/

https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/518818/moment-of-inertia-for-a-car

[Anonymous No.16052643]

>>16051193
reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l16PMzqkV88

[Anonymous No.16052644]

>>16052637
ah so the center of mass is supposed to be close to the point that's equidistant from the tires. Musk really has problems putting his thoughts into words.

[Anonymous No.16052645]

>>16052636
I will not.

[Anonymous No.16052661]

>>16052495
>>16052500
Peter Beck is out here blatantly lying to investors thatit will launch this year

[Anonymous No.16052663]

>>16052645
okay then cringelord. Just a friendly reminder that it's just warm gas coming out of these nozzles nothing more.

[Anonymous No.16052665]

>>16052661
And Elon Musk is out there blatantly lying to us that Starship will land on Mars in 2020 and that the Tesla Roadster 2020 is entering production this year.

[Anonymous No.16052671]

>>16052665
Lying about the timelines for stuff that nobody's doing or done before is different than lying about the availability of a product that's competing with an existing solution.

[Anonymous No.16052673]

Any news from this piece of space hardware? Before it launched I thought we would have a new understanding of the universe in months.

[Anonymous No.16052674]

>>16052633

[Anonymous No.16052676]

>>16052674

[Anonymous No.16052679]

>>16052673
yeah, shit's weird, we have no idea what any of it means, get back to you in twenty years

[Anonymous No.16052680]

>>16052676

[Anonymous No.16052682]

https://www.pcmag.com/news/hughesnet-lost-200k-satellite-internet-users-last-year-amid-starlink-competition

[Anonymous No.16052684]

>>16052673
everything new (read: exoplanets and exomoons) it can barely see, other than that it's just improving accuracy and reducing error bars on existing knowledge

[Anonymous No.16052685]

>>16052682

[Anonymous No.16052686]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/01/nasa-shuts-down-maxar-led-osam-1-satellite-refueling-project.html
>NASA cited in its announcement “continued technical, cost, and schedule challenges, and a broader community evolution away from refueling unprepared spacecraft, which has led to a lack of a committed partner.”

[Anonymous No.16052687]

>>16052682
Unironically, how can anyone else compete?

SpaceX itself has first party access to rapid launching + massive hardware mass production. And they are so far ahead of anyone else.

[Anonymous No.16052689]

>>16052687
kuiper might in the future if New Glenn gets good cadence or they just start launching with starship too
they would have lower margins perhaps but they could still compete with Starlink from a consumer POV

[Anonymous No.16052690]

>>16052665
Beck's lies directly impact the stock price of a public company you dumb fucker. He's committing actual fraud

[Anonymous No.16052692]

>>16052679
>we have no idea what any of it means
wym

[Anonymous No.16052694]

>He thinks Musk isn't defruading Tesla and SpaceX shareholders as much as legally possible

[Anonymous No.16052696]

>>16052663
Still doesn't stop me from fapping to those S P I C C Y engine plumes... I just *increased breathing*.... feel... *pupil dilation*... (in a raspy voice) the combustion cycle touching.... *cums*

[Anonymous No.16052697]

>>16052694
if its legal, its not fraud

[Anonymous No.16052701]

>>16052697
Fraud is lying with intent to gain money. Not strictly a legal term. A particular fraud may or may not be legal.

[Anonymous No.16052706]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/03/rocket-report-astra-warns-of-imminent-bankruptcy-falcon-heavy-launch-delay/

Small Rockets
>India building a second spaceport.
>Astra founders warn of "imminent bankruptcy."
>RFA reveals plans for SaxaVord spaceport

Medium Rockets
>Firefly expanding rapidly in Central Texas
>Rocket Lab pushing for first Neutron launch..
>Starliner launch is near.

Heavy Rockets
>FAA closes Starship "mishap" investigation
>Space Force wants to see a good cadence from ULA and Blue.
>NASA, SpaceX test Starship docking system
>Northrop completes booster segment
>Falcon Heavy launch delayed.

[Anonymous No.16052707]

Some news from the rocket report that I haven't seen posted here and that I've missed

https://blogs.nasa.gov/goes/2024/02/27/launch-of-noaa-weather-satellite-delayed/

FH launch delayed to May 2024

[Anonymous No.16052708]

>>16052701
Basedstein physicist > Pseudon Musk

[Anonymous No.16052711]

https://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-pushing-for-first-neutron-launch-in-2024/
>“Right now, we have a schedule that closes for a launch by the end of the year,” Peter Beck, chief executive of Rocket Lab, said of Neutron. “But, we’ve got a lot of testing to get through.”
>One reason the company is pushing to get Neutron launched before the end of the year is to ensure that it can be eligible for the first Lane 1 awards under the U.S. Space Force’s National Security Space Launch Phase 3 contracts.

[Anonymous No.16052712]

Booster 9 failure mode was more interesting. According to SpaceX, when the booster tried to relight the middle ring of 10 engines, some engines began to shut down one after another until a single engine exploded. This explosion caused a chain reaction, which led to the loss of the booster.

In the update, SpaceX explained the likely reason for this failure was a filter blockage on the inlet of the LOX turbopump for this Raptor engine. A blockage would cut off LOX to the engine and the inlet line, leading to the loss of inlet pressure and the failure of the turbo pump.

[Anonymous No.16052713]

>>16052365
fucking newfags

[Anonymous No.16052714]

https://payloadspace.com/firefly-doubles-its-footprint-and-charts-a-course-for-launch-land-orbit/
>The company held a ribbon-cutting ceremony yesterday celebrating the expansion of its rocket production facility from 92,000 to 207,000 sq ft to support its “launch, land, orbit” initiatives. Firefly—which is best known for its Alpha rocket—plans to introduce three next-gen vehicles over the next 24 months to cover the three facets of space travel.

[Anonymous No.16052718]

>>16052714
those three vehicles are MLV (Medium Launch Vehicle), Elytra spacecraft and Blue Ghost lunar lander

[Anonymous No.16052720]

https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/28/india-isro-new-spaceport-small-rocket-launches/?guccounter=2
>The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) has received the go-ahead to construct a new spaceport in Tamil Nadu, with which it aims to help private players launch small rockets in space with less fuel consumption.

[Anonymous No.16052721]

>>16052720

[Anonymous No.16052722]

quit fucking spamming articles, if you're going to post an article you are REQUIRED to post a hot take or I will shit on your face

[Anonymous No.16052725]

>>16052722
whats the point?
"I wonder if this lunar lander is going to succeed"
lol please

[Anonymous No.16052727]

>>16052725
"yet another stupid lunar lander" or YASLL for short
make it interesting, at least ATTEMPT to have a semblance of fucking culture

[Anonymous No.16052730]

>>16052727
no

[Anonymous No.16052732]

>>16052730
FUCKING FROGPOSTER

[Anonymous No.16052736]

Well if you insist then I could give some initial thoughts

>>16052682
I was expecting this to go quicker and hughenest to get destroyed faster, but I guess there are a lot of late adopters

>>16052686
good that NASA actually cancels some poorly performing programmes, should have done so for Starliner for example

>>16052706
>Space Force wants to see a good cadence from ULA and Blue.
I saw this news but didn't see the need to post is earlier, basically some old space aligned general (perhaps getting paid or something through some way?) talking about ULA and Blue needing to launch faster and neglecting to mention SpaceX at all in the talk/speech

>>16052711
2024 seems extremely unlikely to happen, they are still in the middle of testing and building basic shit

>>16052714
MLV launching in 2025 (16 tonnes to LEO) will be cool to see I guess, more lunar landing attempts

>>16052720
India is trying to create a commercial space sector too which this shows which is good

[Anonymous No.16052737]

>>16052701
>Fraud is lying with intent to gain money. Not strictly a legal term.
So I'm committing fraud when I want to buy a car and I tell the seller "$2,000 is the best I can do"? At the very least, that's a novel use of the term.

[Anonymous No.16052740]

>>16052736
>2024 seems extremely unlikely to happen, they are still in the middle of testing and building basic shit
They haven't even assembled a complete engine, let alone fired one.

[Anonymous No.16052741]

>>16052226
Bot attack. Twitter has been dealing with bot aggressively and bots have been trying to find new ways to circumvent

[Anonymous No.16052745]

>>16052740
yeah and as far as I remember from looking (or perhaps glancing) through the shareholder deck where they talk about upcoming stuff, a launch date or any date like that was given for Neutron
it was pretty vague overall

[Anonymous No.16052746]

>>16052682
Its hilarious that there are retards still on hughesnet. Starlink is 10X better than Hughesnet in all the metrics that count. Starlink dish cost is roughly the same at ~$400 vs 600. and the monthly cost is much better. Fuck paying HughesNet $200+/m for 100GB monthly bandwidth.

[Anonymous No.16052749]

>>16052746
Some people still love dialup experience. Thats hughesnet for ya.

[Anonymous No.16052766]

>>16052736
see, that's a start
next time you should act like every single one of these articles has offended you deeply somehow, for example:
>I can't goddamn believe these HughesNet (kikenet as I like to call them) fuckers are still
hanging around
and
>I guess the research into refueling has leapfrogged NASA here, huh
or
>yet another Rocket Report from Da Burger

it needs to be PUNCHY, make me interested in whatever slop you're selling

[Anonymous No.16052769]

>>16052749
I don't understand how paying more for less is tolerable to these people

[Anonymous No.16052770]

>>16052769
I'm pretty sure they just don't know the cost and performance of starlink compared to what they are using

[Anonymous No.16052771]

>>16052769
>>16052770
They read fake reviews claiming its the worst thing ever or worse than hitler.

[Anonymous No.16052773]

>>16052771
let's be honest, some people can't fucking read and when it says "make sure there are NO obstructions in this direction" and then there's a tree in the way

grammar fail but I don't give a shit

[Anonymous No.16052793]

>>16052638
yes, changing SRB inner geometry or fuel composition to burn faster is easier than building a mach 5 airliner sized jet

[Anonymous No.16052823]

Is 2024 the year of New Glenn?

[Anonymous No.16052829]

>>16052684
Hubble is PS2
JWST is PS3

[Anonymous No.16052830]

>>16052694
SpaceX/Tesla shareholders are being happily defrauded all the way to the bank. Insane ROI

[Anonymous No.16052832]

>>16052711
Lyin' Beck is cashing out of RL within the next few years

[Anonymous No.16052836]

>>16052264
>why are Latin Americans so annoying with this

There is a group that is extremely assblasted that they live on a continent called America but their country is not called America so they aren't called American.

[Anonymous No.16052857]

>>16052793
would

[Anonymous No.16052866]

>>16052128
>doesn't know about Loss
>posts spacegay
you have to go back

[Anonymous No.16052882]

Sooooo it's March. Elon said March

[Anonymous No.16052904]

>>16052882
He said early march retard, did you think he was gonna launch it at 00:01 on march 1st?

[Anonymous No.16052944]

>>16052706
>Astra founders warn of "imminent bankruptcy."
Some companies deserve to die

[Anonymous No.16052952]

>>16052882
one more week

[Anonymous No.16052958]

>>16052882
Two weeks

[Anonymous No.16052968]

>>16052882
NET March 8th. You can say this then and be legitimately right.

[Anonymous No.16052980]

>>16052904
so late April
got it

[Anonymous No.16053016]

>>16052264
>brown
>commieboo
Ah, classic

[Anonymous No.16053017]

>>16052673
You fell for astronomer science PR funding hype

[Anonymous No.16053018]

>>16053017
Astronomer pork

[Anonymous No.16053021]

[Anonymous No.16053030]

Let’s be real will we ever have FTL travel in our lifetimes?

[Anonymous No.16053033]

>>16053030
> will time machines exist?

[Anonymous No.16053039]

>>16051924
no the two most ambitious projects that will happen in our lifetime is the construction of a
>space solar power plants (synchronous orbit 20000 tons, 10km length spacecraft)
>space elevator with a counterweight at 120000 km.
It is estimated that these projects will require 300+ launches of a Starship class rocket

[Anonymous No.16053040]

>>16052882
he said smarch

[Anonymous No.16053043]

>>16053039
and these would have to be "block 2 starships" not the weird nosecone/clamshell type of payload fairing they have right now, that's not suitable for these projects

[Anonymous No.16053045]

Abl RS1 should be flying again early this month

https://x.com/harry__stranger/status/1763557313494061069?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

[Anonymous No.16053049]

is it just me or is 2024 being the year of 8 gorrilion launches not holding up? we're three months in already

[Anonymous No.16053054]

>>16053049
all i want to see is spacex financial statements

[Anonymous No.16053063]

>>16053030
Please kill yourself ftlcel

[Anonymous No.16053078]

>>16053030
Yes.

[Anonymous No.16053080]

>>16053078
You need to fuck off

[Anonymous No.16053093]

>>16053078
based knower

[Anonymous No.16053097]

>>16052882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v-33jcEDk4

[Anonymous No.16053117]

/sfg/

[Anonymous No.16053144]

if IFT3 goes flawlessly, when does starship start carrying real payloads?
flight 4? 5? later?

[Anonymous No.16053147]

>>16051285
Fuck you waveriders are cool

[Anonymous No.16053149]

>>16053144
4

[Anonymous No.16053151]

>>16053144
4 would launch a meme payload, 5 would have starlink sats.

[Anonymous No.16053157]

>>16053144
3 has an un disclosed payload. as did 1 and 2...
-X

[Anonymous No.16053159]

>>16053151
The last meme payload was only because no-one wanted to risk their hardware on it. This time around I'm expecting that someone will take Elon up when he comes calling to see if anyone wants a ride, even if it's some cobbled-together student science project that'll probably fail even before it's deployed. People are, however slowly, starting to adapt to just how cheap launch is going to become.

[Anonymous No.16053177]

>>16053159
I think the meme payload makes the maiden payload flight that much more memorable

[Anonymous No.16053186]

Meme payload will be a third stage that burns for a mars intercept.

[Anonymous No.16053189]

>>16053186
They don't have a payload door for anything but Starlink incel chud

[Anonymous No.16053194]

>>16053189
You went too hard with this bait, you shouldve just said incel or chud alone to make it more believable

[Anonymous No.16053197]

>>16053189
The third stage will be a bunch of starlinks welded together.

[Anonymous No.16053239]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHZLMEBNYg
>Ship 28 Stacked Once Again | SpaceX Boca Chica

[Anonymous No.16053242]

>>16053239
destack in a few days?

[Anonymous No.16053250]

>>16053239

[Anonymous No.16053271]

>>16053242
Yes

[Anonymous No.16053288]

>>16053250
Why is s29 chilling next to the pad

[Anonymous No.16053289]

>>16053045

[Anonymous No.16053291]

>>16053288
She just wants to watch what's going on like the rest of us rocket nerds.

[Anonymous No.16053292]

>>16053250
Because Felon Murderusk is plotting another Scam/Fraud

[Anonymous No.16053312]

>>16052882
well obviously it has to launch in march since february is finished

[Anonymous No.16053318]

>>16053289
Is this recent?

[Anonymous No.16053321]

>>16052692
>google light echos
>light echos are superluminal phenomena that connect the past to the present
wait why arent we pursing this for travel?

[Anonymous No.16053325]

>>16053289
looks like a benis

[Anonymous No.16053326]

>>16053325
:-DDDDD

[Anonymous No.16053327]

>>16053325
most rockets do

[Anonymous No.16053332]

Wait
Do you faggots generally prefer rokkits over spaceplanes because they're more phallic

[Anonymous No.16053333]

>>16053332
N-No

[Anonymous No.16053336]

>>16052456
He said continent, not continentS. We as a country seem more content just to rig your elections. That being said, annexation could lead to better overall interconnected infrastructure, but I don't see it happening with the current admin. From what I know of Mexico, their interstate is woefully lacking to nonexistent.

[Anonymous No.16053361]

>>16053242
Yea basically a requirement, even if they move straight ahead to launch FTS needs to be installed

[Anonymous No.16053364]

>>16053333
Wasted quads gfys

[Anonymous No.16053368]

>>16053332
spaceplanes don't work

[Anonymous No.16053375]

>>16053332
we generally prefer rokkits over spaceplanes because they actually work

[Anonymous No.16053376]

>>16053375
starship

[Anonymous No.16053394]

>>16053376
?

[Anonymous No.16053395]

>>16053376
doesn't work, not a spaceplane

[Anonymous No.16053406]

>>16052682
nice

[Anonymous No.16053411]

>>16053045
Any schedule? I figured the launch was still a ways away, even with the rocket at the pad.

>>16053318
It dates to at least December
https://blog.ablspacesystems.com/p/the-global-future-of-launch

[Anonymous No.16053417]

>>16053144
4 launches a cybertruck

[Anonymous No.16053429]

>>16053376
is a rocketship

[Anonymous No.16053431]

>>16053429
which doesnt actually work

[Anonymous No.16053437]

>>16053332
My dick actually looks more like a space plane but I prefer rockets.

[Anonymous No.16053438]

>>16053431
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.16053445]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1764032892663906313

>SpaceX just achieved peak download speed of 17Mb/s from satellite direct to unmodified Samsung Android phone

[Anonymous No.16053447]

>>16053445
>only 17Mb/s
s'ova

[Anonymous No.16053449]

>>16053447
direct to cell from sat bro

[Anonymous No.16053457]

>>16053447
Samsung phones don't come with Ku/Ka band antennas, son.
Yet.

[Anonymous No.16053465]

>>16053447
Retard I get only 11 mb/s max on ethernet

[Anonymous No.16053467]

>>16052689
Kuiper might be better for businesses since the ground stations dump directly into AWS without hitting the public Internet.

[Anonymous No.16053497]

>>16053445
SNAKE OIL.>>16053457

[Anonymous No.16053506]

>>16053465
Do you live in Africa?

[Anonymous No.16053510]

>>16053506
I live in America...

[Anonymous No.16053514]

So is nuclear stuff the last advantage Russia still has in space technology? Do they have anything else good going for them?

[Anonymous No.16053517]

>>16053510

[Anonymous No.16053530]

>>16053514
they're real good with weird orbits

[Anonymous No.16053545]

>>16052720

[Anonymous No.16053549]

>the lawyers that won the case against elon, preventing him from getting $60 billion in tesla stock, are now eligible to keep 33% of that $60 billion for themselves as payment for winning the lawsuit
what the fuck. leeches are holding us back, chaining humanity to this dying world.

[Anonymous No.16053564]

>>16053549
(((leeches)))

[Anonymous No.16053574]

>>16053530
When have they last sent something to one of those orbits?

[Anonymous No.16053581]

>>16053549
>tesla
i dont give a shit shut up. Also no source

[Anonymous No.16053582]

>>16053574
isnt that russia's favorite orbit? wiki says they launched Arktika-M 2 into the orbit in december.

[Anonymous No.16053586]

>>16053581
>Lawyers for a Tesla shareholder successfully argued in a Delaware court that Elon Musk doesn't deserve a $55-billion compensation package for his work at the EV company.
>Instead, some of that compensation package should go to them in attorney fees, the lawyers argued to a Delaware judge.
>According to the Journal, plaintiff attorneys usually get one-third of a verdict or settlement amount.
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-delaware-tesla-pay-package-lawyers-six-billion-stock-2024-3

[Anonymous No.16053594]

>>16052944
>the last column directly contradicts the "cadence" column
>spacex <30 launches/year
>price measured in dollar signs
bruh look at this dude

I wish they'd died sooner, they were meme after meme for a couple years and then we spent the last couple just waiting for closure

[Anonymous No.16053597]

am i seeing this right? why is mars's orbit so much wonkier compared to earth, venus and mercury

[Anonymous No.16053605]

>>16053597
Because it likely took a bigger hit than ours ever did?

[Anonymous No.16053612]

>Hey guys, thanks for tuning in to another video on ForgottenRockets.com.....

[Anonymous No.16053622]

Staging

>>16053620
>>16053620
>>16053620
>>16053620
>>16053620

[Anonymous No.16053690]

>>16052793
how do you keep number two from falling apart

[Anonymous No.16053764]

>>16053574
>>16053582
That's what Ivan uses instead of GEO, because their inclination is so far north. They'll put four sats in the same Molniya orbit, six hours apart, so there's always one hanging around above the pole. Unless one fails, that is, then there's an outage at certain times of the day. I've heard that they have had some of those be out in the past few years.

[Anonymous No.16053769]

>>16053690
just add more struts, bro

[Anonymous No.16053937]

>>16052552
wtf it’s gigantic