/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.16048299]

Hera Edition

Previous - >>16046524

[Anonymous No.16048309]

>- Texas Parks and Wildlife was spotted around the Orbital Launch Pad today. Not sure why. Let’s hope it is about the land swap and not the launch.

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1762659251191705663

[Anonymous No.16048311]

Is this book worth reading?

[Anonymous No.16048312]

>>16048311
read this

https://planetocracy.substack.com/p/review-of-a-city-on-mars-part-i
https://planetocracy.substack.com/p/review-of-a-city-on-mars-part-ii
https://planetocracy.substack.com/p/review-of-a-city-on-mars-part-iii

[Anonymous No.16048321]

>>16048146

Elon bitch basterd where is my 2020 Roadster

[Anonymous No.16048332]

>>16048311
We already talked about this. No, it's propaganda against manned space exploration.

[Anonymous No.16048336]

>>16048311
> crypto Magians demand we live in the cupola

[Anonymous No.16048338]

>>16048299
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

[Anonymous No.16048340]

>>16048312

[Anonymous No.16048363]

>>16048340
>improper use of its

[Anonymous No.16048370]

>>16048321
Seems not road legal

[Anonymous No.16048374]

>>16048311
It parrots the ideas of some moron who likes to scream that off-world colonies will nuke Earth, and uses that to justify the notion of slowing down or halting space colonization.
Funny enough, it just makes me want to nuke Earthers more.

[Anonymous No.16048375]

>>16048321
end of 2024
wu-flu and 3/Y/Semi/Cybertruck production ramping got in the way
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1762717150064542195

[Anonymous No.16048386]

Hello yes I am a prospective colonist and I would like to say fuck earth we gonna throw rocks at that bitch.

This 60 second posting timer bullshit just earned them another rock.

[Anonymous No.16048388]

>>16048311
> by Kelly Weinersmith and Zach Weinersmith

A failed online cartoonist and his mouthy wife who studies butt worms. Not your typical go to authority on space.

[Anonymous No.16048392]

>>16048340

[Anonymous No.16048394]

>>16048392

[Anonymous No.16048398]

Redpill me on him

[Anonymous No.16048399]

>>16048394
lol, colonizing space is racist

[Anonymous No.16048402]

>>16048398
>Redpill me on
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.16048406]

>>16048398
Carl Sagan is what Neil Degrasse tyson will never be. A brilliant science communicator, but also someone who genuinely pushed the field forward. And yet sagan was more humble than NDT ever was.

> Worked on the air force proposal to nuke the moon
> Coined the phrase 'Nuclear Winter' and authored the first papers on it
> Designed the Voyager Golden Record and Pioneer Plaque
> Instrumental in founding SETI

[Anonymous No.16048409]

>>16048406
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan#Scientific_achievements further reading

[Anonymous No.16048414]

>>16048399
mars won't create pressure for better tech t: weinersmiths

[Anonymous No.16048419]

>>16048414
the sources the weinersmiths use are very left wing and come down to basically "you can't leave"

[Anonymous No.16048420]

>>16048414
Productivity hack. Move to northern Alaska. Silicon Valley founders hate this.

[Anonymous No.16048425]

>>16048398
>>16048406
>>16048409
Sagan was a kook
>The following excerpt is from the Sagan biography A Life in the Cosmos, by William Poundstone: One Sunday morning toward the end of summer, Abrahamson, his fiancée, and Sagan were washing the car the couple had been given as an engagement present. Sagan propounded a new theory: that Moses, Jesus, and all the great religious figures of ages past were really extraterrestrial beings. The miracles of the Bible had all happened as described. Moses parted the Red Sea, Jesus turned water into wine, and so forth. They used advanced technology that was perfectly normal on their planet—but which we earthlings could take only as proof of divinity.
>Abrahamson good-naturedly challenged him. Sagan refused to budge. He was either serious or acting as if he was serious. With Sagan, it was hard to tell which.
>That afternoon, Abrahamson took his fiancée and Sagan out to dinner at what was, for Bloomington in the 1950s, a very posh establishment. It was “the kind of restaurant where people went after church.” In the middle of dinner, without any warning, Sagan slammed his fist on the table, sending the dishes rattling. He looked Abrahamson in the eye and bellowed, “I tell you, Jesus Christ is extraterrestrial!”
>The restaurant fell silent. It took a subjective eternity for conversations to resume with something of their former spontaneity. Abrahamson and his fiancée wanted to crawl under the table

[Anonymous No.16048427]

>>16048419

[Anonymous No.16048430]

>>16048425
i couldn't care less what his personal beliefs were, it doesn't change his impact on science and culture

[Anonymous No.16048434]

>>16048427
don't go because its hard t: weinersmiths

[Anonymous No.16048437]

>>16048434
>anti-spinhab posts on /sfg/ were made by the weinersmiths
I knew it!

[Anonymous No.16048438]

>>16048434
part 2 conclusion

[Anonymous No.16048440]

I still don't know what is supposed to actually be hard about living on Mars.
>temperature
Insulation and central heating is so easy that we have researchers living in Antarctica right now no problem, and Antarctica has much thicker air and thus saps heat out of structures much faster than Mars can.
>pressure
Containing 1 bar is a complete non-issue. in fact it lets you build bigger things easier because you can use your air as passive pneumatic support.
>oxygen supply
Infinite CO2 to electrolyse oxygen from.
>CO2 scrubbing
Cold traps that the HVAC system draws air thru which freezes out CO2 for recycle or dumping outside. Same with water vapor but at warmer temperatures.
>Food
Easy to supply from Earth even if we're feeding thousands of people, so bootstrapping to self sufficiency can take its time.
>Water
Abundant on Mars, non-issue
>uuuh resources?
Mars rocks are silicates & metal oxides, refine them via molten oxide electrolysis.
>power?
100 tonne ROSAs delivered by Starship, eventually followed by in-situ panel production.

[Anonymous No.16048443]

>>16048440
Long term effects of lower than 1g gravity is the big question, but waiting around iant going to solve or answer the question
In the worst case humans will have to live in spinhabs instead of on non-earth planets

[Anonymous No.16048452]

>>16048438
weinersmiths opinion on property rights in space (you would have none because fuck you)

[Anonymous No.16048453]

>>16048452
cont. on the previous point

[Anonymous No.16048454]

https://twitter.com/TheRocketFuture/status/1762819299427619050/

Booster 10 on launch pad again

[Anonymous No.16048465]

>>16048398
Great Science popularizer. As a scientist, often Avi Leob style very speculative, more like an SF magazine Science columnist with more math and charts. Kinda like Robert Forward.

And really strayed when he started to become an antiwar activist in the Reagan years. Advocacy Science at its worst.

[Anonymous No.16048466]

>>16048453
conclusion of part 3

[Anonymous No.16048468]

>>16048466

[Anonymous No.16048470]

>>16048430
> his impact?

Being? People rarely pick up a 40 year old popular science book, or watch a 40 year old science show, so that part of his career has little impact now. His Nuclear Winter concept has stuck around, but its usually seen now as a very exaggerated polemic.

And his space science papers are as obsolete as most papers from that long ago.

[Anonymous No.16048472]

>>16048443
Correct, and since Mars has two little quadrillion tonne moons to build spinhabs out of, that's also not a real problem.

[Anonymous No.16048476]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

[Anonymous No.16048478]

>>16048466
>your rights end where my neuroses begin
That's highly antisemitic.

[Anonymous No.16048480]

>>16048388
>A failed online cartoonist
But he writes funny science comics!
Anyway this book and others like it are just trying to copy the success of Ryan North's 'How to invent everything' book but they're all either terrible writers or idiots.

[Anonymous No.16048481]

>>16048468
KSR's books have always been commie gobbledygook to an extent, but Aurora is explicity anti-space-colonization and his green earth series is actual garbage. In retrospect, the Mars trilogy isn't worth reading.

[Anonymous No.16048483]

I've worked in oldspace for almost 15 years and have accomplished nothing. Money is good though. AMA

[Anonymous No.16048484]

>>16048483
Software or hardware?

[Anonymous No.16048485]

SLIM outperformed IM-1
This is a national disgrace.

[Anonymous No.16048486]

>>16048483
>I've worked in oldspace for almost 15 years >and have accomplished nothing
no need for the redundancy

[Anonymous No.16048490]

>>16048485
>japan's biggest moon probe project ever had an almost identical failure compared to one of America's lowest-cost moon probes ever, but survived the lunar night
ok

[Anonymous No.16048493]

>>16048490
Well when you look at it that way, it was a huge success for the USA.

All’s we had to do was move the goalpost a country mile for the sake of argument!

[Anonymous No.16048499]

>>16048484
Hardware

[Anonymous No.16048503]

>>16048483

SLS, good or bad?

[Anonymous No.16048505]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B83dY7nUKyo
>Ship 28 Awaits Re-stacking on Booster 10 | SpaceX Boca Chics

[Anonymous No.16048510]

>>16048505

[Anonymous No.16048514]

Hello

[Anonymous No.16048539]

>>16048493
the goalpost hasn't been moved whatsoever.
Japan's lander and America's lander accomplished identical landing success, and America's was a cheaper product. They're also launching another one this year, idk when Japan is attempting a repeat performance.

[Anonymous No.16048546]

>>16048503
The answer depends on what aspect you're considering. Is it good from a cost perspective? No. However, is it good from a performance perspective? Also no. This is why it's important to define what criteria you are using to evaluate.

[Anonymous No.16048557]

https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1762846725595611235

Odysseus continues to generate solar power on the Moon, allowing flight controllers to continue gathering data from the south pole region in furtherance of the
IM-1 Mission objectives.

Flight controllers are analyzing new solar charging data and using the additional time to maximize tasks that further future exploration.

Intuitive Machines will participate in a news conference with NASA at the Johnson Space Center in Houston on February 28, 2024, at 2:00 pm ET to discuss the Company’s historic lunar mission.
https://intuitivemachines.com/im-1
(28FEB2024 0825 CST)

[Anonymous No.16048571]

>>16048440
>Containing 1 bar is a complete non-issue.
Except you need to build the structure and maintain it.
With what? At what cost?
>Infinite CO2 to electrolyze oxygen from.
By means of infinite energy and infinite machines?
>Water abundant on Mars, non-issue
Free to extract?
Unless you're ironic you need a serious reality check.

[Anonymous No.16048582]

>>16048571
with solar panels and perhaps nuclear power plants
of course you need to maintain it, but that is so inconsequential it doesn't even merit mentioning
water will be extracted by mining machines
all of this requires a lot of useful mass to be deposited on mars, which starship is designed to do
you can solve a lot of problems just by launching more useful mass, progress in colonization can and will be incremental

[Anonymous No.16048588]

Varda released a 5 minute video of the capsule reentering at Mach 25

https://x.com/vardaspace/status/1762855191865397260?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BWxl921rMgM&feature=youtu.be

Captcha: 2GYATT

[Anonymous No.16048594]

>>16048398
weed smoking retard who thought it was a good idea to send into space our address and tech level.
because 100% of alien life is 100% friendly across the entire galaxy, when you smoke the good shit.

[Anonymous No.16048598]

>>16048588
re entry beginning at 12 min

[Anonymous No.16048601]

>>16048594
we might be able to catch and destroy that probe
we should

[Anonymous No.16048604]

>>16048571
>Containing 1 bar is a complete non-issue.
>Except you need to build the structure and maintain it. With what? At what cost?
With metal and plastics and basalt fiber textiles produced in situ, for the cost of supplying the faxtories with electricity & raw materials.
>Infinite CO2 to electrolyze oxygen from.
>By means of infinite energy and infinite machines?
30 kW power supply gets you two kilos of oxygen gas per day, satisfying the needs of ten people. Eventually farming would provide the necessary oxygen for little to zero electricity cost.
>Water abundant on Mars, non-issue
>Free to extract?
Nearly free, yes. Mars has water ice everywhere, and water can be recycled almost endlessly for life support purposes.
>Unless you're ironic you need a serious reality check.
You need to look frankly at the actual conditions instead of pouting like a toddler and imagining these problems to be much harder than they actually are.

[Anonymous No.16048612]

>>16048546
assuming a non starship and non shuttle derived architecture how can we achieve a >40t+ TLI launch vehicle?
Was something like that even considered?

[Anonymous No.16048622]

>>16048612
>shuttle derived
>40t+ TLI launch vehicle
KEEEEK

[Anonymous No.16048628]

>>16048612
>assuming a non starship and non shuttle derived architecture how can we achieve a >40t+ TLI launch vehicle?
Saturn derived lol, or more practically, just do LEO rendezvous between payloads and orbital transfer stages.
Or design a new super heavy lift rocket from scratch, it's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.16048630]

Bruh

[Anonymous No.16048631]

>>16048630
Which American astronaut are the Russians going to blame this one on?

[Anonymous No.16048636]

>>16048630
The strategy of including pockocmoc in the ISS for the purpose of keeping soviet engineers away from iran and the norkies was a mistake

[Anonymous No.16048642]

>>16048630
Why don't the Russians just put up three Zvesda's with 3 Proton launches and leave the ISS.
Problem solved.

[Anonymous No.16048648]

>>16048630
lol they just keep doing it

[Anonymous No.16048652]

>>16048630
Whoopsies [math]\unicode{x1F92D}[/math]

[Anonymous No.16048654]

>>16048631
a mentally deranged family-in-tatters female astronaut maybe

[Anonymous No.16048668]

>>16048398
https://youtu.be/ggchpG9V-iY
https://youtu.be/Q55Uc2JCqo8
https://youtu.be/xbjx919xK2g
https://youtu.be/GfkLjjy2Vsw

[Anonymous No.16048669]

B10 is back at the pad btw, really hoping those bitches close so we can get a full stack. March 8th is starting to look somewhat possible, if they already did all the corrective actions then all thats left is to full stack, maybe WDR, and then its literally just get the documentation and go.

[Anonymous No.16048672]

>>16048669
Speaking of, chopsticks are moving up and closing around B10 I think.

[Anonymous No.16048677]

china needs more international collaborations

[Anonymous No.16048678]

>>16048677
Yeah no there's a reason most space agencies don't want to work with them

[Anonymous No.16048680]

>>16048677
the ccp is very lacking in diversity and jewish representation, concerning

[Anonymous No.16048688]

>literally one post about restack
who are you faggots and why have you only just now come to /sfg/

[Anonymous No.16048690]

>>16048688
what is there to talk about?
two weeks
two weeks

[Anonymous No.16048698]

>>16048690
FUCKER TALK ABOUT STARSHIP I HAVENT HEARD ONE PERSON MENTION THAT THEY MAY NOT EVEN DO A STATIC FIRE OF B10 BEFORE LAUNCH THERES SO MANY IMPROVEMENTS TO LAUNCH COMPLEX WHICH IS GONNA FAIL HOLY SHIT YOU TWO WEEKS FAGS ARE ANNOYING

[Anonymous No.16048699]

Launch in February

[Anonymous No.16048702]

>>16048699
Delusional its NET March 8th

[Anonymous No.16048704]

>>16048698
if you want to talk about that stuff start a conversation, we don't exist to entertain you. Ask questions & the thread will answer.

[Anonymous No.16048705]

>>16048654
this is the 5th insane woman to sabotage russian space program. wtf is wrong with women guys?

[Anonymous No.16048706]

>>16048704
I did faggot. See >>16048672 and >>16048669 you people just dont care

[Anonymous No.16048711]

>>16048704
>we
You don't speak for me. Fuck off, niggerfaggot.

[Anonymous No.16048714]

https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1762777110626914509
>Hardware is hard.
>That’s why Elon is by far the greatest founder of all time.
>Remember — countless startups die just while trying to put stationary beige boxes on desktops. Very smart people get crushed by supply chain disruptions, or China tariffs, or lockdowns, or shipping interruptions, or regulatory delays.
>Not Elon. He didn’t just survive financial crisis and coronavirus. He managed to build physical things in America while fighting the state and the laws of nature at the same time.
>Somehow he managed to simultaneously build not just a car company but a rocket company. Those don’t just have “moving parts”, they are a moving whole.
>The difficulty level here is insane. Hardware is completely different from software. One recall, just one serious bug, can destroy your company. If you are charging $50 for something that costs $40, and you need to recall and replace a million units, you’re usually dead.
>So just one of these companies — just Tesla, or just SpaceX — would be an incredible accomplishment for anyone. Even a very intelligent and hardworking person would have to live an incredibly boring, disciplined, focused life to possibly maintain the extremely low error rate needed to profitably ship such complex products.
>Not Elon. He did SpaceX and Tesla while having N children by K women. While also cofounding OpenAI and Neuralink and Boring Company. While fighting and defeating countless journalists, politicians, haters, and short sellers. And of course while buying Twitter, posting all the time, and building a following larger than almost any politician.

[Anonymous No.16048715]

>>16048714
cont.
>The better you are, the better you understand how much better Elon is. If you’re good at math you appreciate Ramanujan’s greatness. If you’re good at basketball you respect how amazing Michael Jordan was. Elon is like that, for tech. Everyone in tech understands the sport we’re playing, and he really is the greatest of all time.

[Anonymous No.16048721]

>>16048698
>THEY MAY NOT EVEN DO A STATIC FIRE OF B10 BEFORE LAUNCH
You talk about it then. Why?

[Anonymous No.16048725]

>>16048714
Belongs on >>>/g/.

[Anonymous No.16048732]

>>16048721
Ill talk about it and no discussion will be made, especially now that I bitched about this. The most replied to thing in this thread is a shitty 'redpill me on X' carl sagan copy paste for interaction so maybe I should just start baiting the general if I want to start any discussion.

[Anonymous No.16048734]

>>16048725

[Anonymous No.16048737]

>>16048734

[Anonymous No.16048742]

>>16048732
I mean there might not be much to say about it except seems stupid, every other SpaceX rocket gets static fired at least once I'm pretty sure and they still have lots of time. I'd still like to know who says that and what the reason given is.

[Anonymous No.16048743]

>>16048734
>>>/g/99214108/ knew you were a /g/tard.

[Anonymous No.16048745]

[Anonymous No.16048747]

>>16048743

[Anonymous No.16048749]

>>16048743
>>16048747
Forgot, how do I cross link posts on other boards again? Ill just get the direct link then >>>/g/99214108

[Anonymous No.16048752]

>>16048749
Apparantly just copy and paste the link it does it for you. Well ok then

[Anonymous No.16048806]

Lifting now

[Anonymous No.16048818]

>>16048652
wtf you can view emojis when on IOS?

⁉⁉

[Anonymous No.16048821]

>>16048652
>>16048818
uhh I'm viewing this on my desktop Firefox right now

[Anonymous No.16048828]

>>16048652

[Anonymous No.16048829]

>>16048806
are they preparing for destack already?

[Anonymous No.16048833]

>>16048829
The booster's been off the pad for a week. It's going back on it now.

[Anonymous No.16048835]

>>16048833
and then off the pad again

[Anonymous No.16048841]

>>16048835

[Anonymous No.16048846]

>>16048835
yes off into hawai

[Anonymous No.16048855]

>>16048483
Just how insane is US space capabilities?

[Anonymous No.16048860]

>>16048835

[Anonymous No.16048861]

>>16048846
Is that still the flight path?

[Anonymous No.16048863]

>>16048861
Yeah, nuking Hawaii

[Anonymous No.16048878]

this is the first simultaneous lift right?

[Anonymous No.16048909]

The Space Environment Ground Simulation Device in China, also known as the "ground space station," is a significant achievement in the country's aerospace field. This ground-based facility, located in Harbin, simulates various space conditions, including microgravity and environments like the lunar surface. It consists of multiple chambers that replicate different space environments, providing a cost-effective and safe way to conduct experiments that would typically require going to space. The project, developed over 18 years, aims to support aerospace research, enhance material interaction technologies, and advance China's aerospace capabilities.

[Anonymous No.16048910]

>>16048909
>including microgravity
Wuxia wire fighting crew not pictured?

[Anonymous No.16048911]

>>16048861
Flight 3 will reenter over the Indian ocean because it will attempt a landing flip.

[Anonymous No.16048912]

NASA IM-1 conference is starting

[Anonymous No.16048913]

>>16048912
It's dead, Jim. Let it go.

[Anonymous No.16048917]

>>16048706
those aren't questions you retard

[Anonymous No.16048918]

>>16048878
I think they did one year or so ago

[Anonymous No.16048919]

>>16048745
written and illustrated by a true faggot

[Anonymous No.16048920]

HOLY SHIT

[Anonymous No.16048921]

>>16048920

[Anonymous No.16048923]

THESE FUCKING IMAGES HOLY SHIT

[Anonymous No.16048925]

AMERICAN FLAG ON THE SOUTH POLE OF THE MOON

[Anonymous No.16048926]

[Anonymous No.16048928]

[Anonymous No.16048929]

so basically things went better than they thought after the initial "tipped over" concern. it did tip over but not after they did everything they needed to

[Anonymous No.16048930]

Orion and Starship will KISS

[Anonymous No.16048932]

>>16048920
>CRONCH
That lander has boneitis.

[Anonymous No.16048935]

>>16048920
>>16048926
proves that those worrying about rocket blasts shooting regolith everywhere ain't just whistling Dixie

[Anonymous No.16048938]

>>16048929
I had thought it more or less slammed downwards from the lateral velocity, but apparently it pretty much landed fine *then* just tipped over, that's certainly better than I'd thought.

[Anonymous No.16048940]

>>16048929
How does it tip only after a while?

[Anonymous No.16048944]

>>16048940
a soft foothold that just gave way maybe?

[Anonymous No.16048945]

>>16048920
>>16048926
>>16048928
Could've waited one second for their Twitter to post more unfucked pictures.

[Anonymous No.16048948]

>>16048920
nice

[Anonymous No.16048966]

50 megabytes downlinked

[Anonymous No.16048968]

>>16048966
meh

[Anonymous No.16048971]

>>16048938
well now based off what this guy just said it seems like it did land a little hard and basically scraped along the surface until it rested against a slope
so I guess some things still need to be worked out but maybe they got lucky kek

[Anonymous No.16048973]

>>16048940
>>16048944
busted leg

[Anonymous No.16048982]

super heavy with fluorine propellants (kino)

[Anonymous No.16048984]

deep ancient crater in the middle

[Anonymous No.16048989]

>>16048398
Absolutely terrible novelist, but I just can't hate that smile.

[Anonymous No.16048994]

>>16048989
His non-fiction is much better.

[Anonymous No.16049003]

>>16048588
kino

[Anonymous No.16049011]

EAGLECLAM ejected

but no images

[Anonymous No.16049016]

Nobody cares about IM

[Anonymous No.16049020]

>>16048984

[Anonymous No.16049021]

>>16048930
Needs more pixels. Still had to shrink it to fit on 4chan at good quality. Full resolution version is here: https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/jsc2023e076235.jpg

[Anonymous No.16049030]

Ooof

https://www.newsweek.com/roscosmos-russia-space-agency-sell-assets-sanctions-1874100

In December, Roscosmos Director General Yuri Borisov said on state TV that the year "was not easy" for the company. "But the most important thing is that, I hope, we have reversed all the negative trends that have accompanied the industry for several years," he said.

A list of properties the company hopes to sell in 2024 includes those located in the capital Moscow, and the surrounding Moscow region, the Krasnodar region, Samara, the Tver region and elsewhere.

Funds from the sale of property will be used to "improve the financial and economic condition of the enterprises" of Roscosmos, the representative said, noting that last year, the company made over 6.5 billion rubles ($70.72 million) from the sale of its non-core assets.

Borisov said in December that the company had lost contracts worth 180 billion rubles ($1.9 billion) out of 230 billion ($2.5 billion) as a result of the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and subsequent sanctions imposed on Russia by Kyiv's allies.

"Out of 230 billion rubles, 180 billion of contracts went to so-called unfriendly countries—these included the supply of engines, these included launch services. Therefore, 180 billion, in fact, has gone from our export revenue," Borisov told the Russia-24 TV channel.

[Anonymous No.16049032]

SLIM a cute!

[Anonymous No.16049034]

>>16049030
and they were the ones who threw away their oneweb contract in the first place

[Anonymous No.16049035]

>>16049030
ANGARA bros...

[Anonymous No.16049038]

>>16049032
you need to kys.

[Anonymous No.16049042]

>>16049032
>little rover fairy using a mini tablet to snap the photo
kek

[Anonymous No.16049048]

>>16049030
lol fuck em, I hope iran enjoys their new missile engineering staff soon

[Anonymous No.16049052]

>>16049030

[Anonymous No.16049055]

>>16049035
It's crazy it first launched nearly a decade ago, but has only had 3 flights. 6 if you include A1.
I wonder if SLS will overtake after another decade.

[Anonymous No.16049056]

>>16049052
shut up itoddler

[Anonymous No.16049060]

>>16049055
Don't worry, they have Amur, Sunkar and Yenisei on the way.

[Anonymous No.16049063]

2 more weeks from this date

[Anonymous No.16049064]

>>16049030
So, they're done, right? Indian doesn't need them. China doesn't want them. America doesn't need them. Europe doesn't need them. Nobody fucking needs them anymore.

[Anonymous No.16049067]

>>16049064
There are still things China and especially India want from them but things are looking pretty dire.
The problem is for a lot of Soviet era engineers they can't accept the fact that they are a junior partner in that relationship... you know given the history of the Chinese space program.

[Anonymous No.16049068]

>>16049032
never have a wanted to fuck a moon lander girl more i want to right now. hooooly

[Anonymous No.16049071]

>>16049030
Do they even have anything left to sell to China?

[Anonymous No.16049075]

>>16049071
The two areas that China still wants are nuclear reactors (both for spacecrafts and submarines) and ORSC engine design - the former more than the latter.
Last I heard China wasn't interested in buying the RD-170 family but is keen on the Zeus/TEM project.

[Anonymous No.16049079]

>>16049068
You need to kill yourself immediatly

[Anonymous No.16049081]

>>16049068
based cartoon child fucker

[Anonymous No.16049082]

>>16049079
her ass is literally in the air dude

[Anonymous No.16049087]

>>16049055
Russia just doesn't have that many domestic payloads that need it. They're so far north that Molniya orbits are more useful than geostationary for telecommunications satellites and the Soyuz 2 is too good and too cheap for those orbits, even in an industry defined by the Falcon 9. The Angara 5 could have found a lot of work launching foreign payloads to GTO/GEO like the Proton used to, but when you're designed as a Proton replacement you get hamstrung by the fact that when Falcon 9 killed the Proton's commercial prospects it killed the Angara's too. Now it's stuck in a place where it's Delta IV-like launch cadence means it'll never have the mass production needed to really find its legs.

[Anonymous No.16049092]

>German frigate "Hessen" mistakenly fired at a U.S. MQ-9 Reaper drone over the Red Sea on Monday; both missiles malfunctioned and fell into the sea — BILD
>According to media reports, there are no more missiles in German depots for 2 of the 3 types this frigate can fire.
lmao, they have never recovered from the operation paperclip.

[Anonymous No.16049097]

>>16049092
Not space or even science related kill yourself

[Anonymous No.16049098]

>>16048938
>Design a fridge with high CoM
>tips over during landing
>not as bad
Is this the new cope?

[Anonymous No.16049103]

>>16049097
It's related to rockets, faggot

[Anonymous No.16049105]

>>16049097
You're an actual NIGGER FUCK YOU AND GET THE FUCK OFF /SFG/

[Anonymous No.16049109]

>>16049103
>>16049105
Not spaceflight just because its 'rockets' doesnt mean its spaceflight you need to kill yourselves /k/ope trannies take your war shit back to that absolute waste of bandwith you normally dwell in

[Anonymous No.16049112]

>>16049109
CRY MORE YOU PUSSY FUCK

[Anonymous No.16049123]

This dynamic testing demonstrated that the Starship system could perform a “soft capture” while in the active docking role. When two spacecraft dock, one vehicle assumes an active “chaser” role while the other is in a passive “target” role. To perform a soft capture, the soft capture system (SCS) of the active docking system is extended while the passive system on the other spacecraft remains retracted. Latches and other mechanisms on the active docking system SCS attach to the passive system, allowing the two spacecraft to dock.

[Anonymous No.16049125]

>>16049123
Is this from the recent NASA SpaceX docking test

[Anonymous No.16049131]

>>16049125
https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-tech-contributes-to-soft-moon-landing-agency-science-underway/

[Anonymous No.16049138]

>>16047934
Outer Wilds mixes and matches m/r and m/(r^2) gravity pretty freely, which causes some weird physics (for example if you solve for orbital speed in the inverse linear mode it's a constant and elliptic orbits are weird)
>>16048226
Elon has inspired at least a few people to try to stand that capability up essentially in anticipation of him needing it, although they're trying to sell capabilities outside of that

[Anonymous No.16049154]

>>16049030
Kiev*

[Anonymous No.16049156]

>>16048480
>Ryan North
Isn't he the guy who writes Dinosaur Comics? With Utahraptor and Trey?

[Anonymous No.16049181]

Okay, hear me out: a flying platform at 75,000ft to launch roggets from.
That way we can shrink the size of the first stage.
Might be able to make a real SSTO.

[Anonymous No.16049188]

>>16049092
kek
The Bundeswehr is supposed to be only for defense. In case of invasion, hold the border until real army arrives.
They try to change that, but no one wants to join and their efforts to get rid of "nazis" makes sure that they kick out the biggest demographic stupid enough to still want to work there.
And of cause the hardware is shit or doesnt have enough ammunition.

[Anonymous No.16049192]

>>16049181
How does it fly and why not use that magic antigrav propulsion directly on the spacecraft?

[Anonymous No.16049198]

>>16048406
Nuclear Winter was fake though
>>16048437
they know that if I get to build tubes that I will drop one on Tel Aviv

[Anonymous No.16049200]

>>16049181
Being higher up doesn't save a significant amount of delta V, and your vehicle still needs to fit high TWR, high Isp, and reentry & landing hardware into a teeny tiny mass fraction.
Just build a reusable TSTO. It's easier & much better.

[Anonymous No.16049201]

>>16049192
>How does it fly
12x GE9X

[Anonymous No.16049203]

>>16049200
Alright, so not a SSTO.
But, still, we can cut down the size of the first stage by launching higher. Or, like you said, TSTO and cut it out entirely.

[Anonymous No.16049204]

>>16049181
This makes sense on Venus because there's no way a probe can rocket launch through that thick ground level atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.16049205]

>>16049198
Agriculture disruption due to high altitude soot is real, which is why America needs to invent low cost sources of electricity, so that they can get self sufficient on controlled environment farming and nuke everyone else.

[Anonymous No.16049206]

>>16049203
Just do TSTO and cut out the entire giant floating platform idea, it's the cheapest best option. Bigger rocket stages don't even cost more anyway, that's an oldspace myth.

[Anonymous No.16049207]

>>16049067
Is it know where a majority of the yuzhmash engineers ended up? I haven’t kept up with it ever since they a) had a campus shooting; and then b) got fucking INVADED like a month later lmao
I know there were serious concern [at least in the MSM] of desperate Yuzhmash engineers selling secrets to Norks. And many speculated [around 2014-ish] that these desperate engineers might flee to North Korea–or more likely, China–if things got desperate.

[Anonymous No.16049208]

>>16049204
Makes more sense to use asteroids to get materials for sunshades and just freeze out Venus' CO2 rather than build floating cuck cages.

[Anonymous No.16049209]

>>16049207
Am I the only one who would not be bothered at all even if the entire workforce of pockocmoc moved to north korea?

[Anonymous No.16049210]

>>16049021
A telescoping docking adapter senior? nice.

[Anonymous No.16049212]

>>16049206
B-But the floating platform idea is what makes it look cooler.
Air launch to orbit /looks/ cool. It's just kinda pointless. This is even cooler looking.

The cool factor is more important than anything else.

[Anonymous No.16049215]

>>16049205
>high altitude soot
This presupposes that cities are made of wood like Tokyo circa 1945, and will be consumed by "firestorms".
Where do you think this soot is going to come from?

[Anonymous No.16049219]

>>16049207
I was throwing theories around that the entire substance of the SpaceX refugee hiring discrimination complaint was because he wasn't hiring Ukranian refugees. Maybe a bunch of em got paperclipped and dropped in oldspace's laps.

[Anonymous No.16049220]

>>16048654
so a cosmonaut tried to rape her and she kicked him in the nuts, right
that's what really happened here?

[Anonymous No.16049223]

>>16049219
Holy shit I never even considered this. What if they ended up at Blue Origin? ULA?
Do you really think Musk looked at them and said “yeah, fuck off”?

[Anonymous No.16049226]

>>16049212
Big resusable boosters are cooler actually

[Anonymous No.16049228]

>>16049215
vaporized pajeets and shitskins, there's like a billion of them

[Anonymous No.16049229]

>>16049226
Nah, it doesn't scratch that '60s sci-fi itch I have.
I'm telling you, air launch by floating platform. I'll have investors eating from the palms of my hands.

[Anonymous No.16049232]

>>16049181
https://youtu.be/AAt9WDQEMoA?si=3DSc68rMrwcFxBS7

[Anonymous No.16049231]

>>16049223
"remember spitting on my shoes?"

[Anonymous No.16049233]

>>16049229
When you're an early start up, maybe. When the cost/launch figures come back you're LITERALLY FUCKED

[Anonymous No.16049235]

>>16049212
>cool factor
Space isn't "cool". Space is boring and we like it that way.

[Anonymous No.16049236]

>>16049232
>everyday astronaut
I have standards.

>>16049233
By that point I'd've already made enough money to transition the company into something more stable... like property.

>>16049235
>we
Speak for yourself.
I like fast cars that go vroom, big tits, and fat fucking rockets that cause your ears to ring.

[Anonymous No.16049242]

>>16048434
>spinning wheels are dangerous :^(
RIPPEN

[Anonymous No.16049245]

>>16049205
just use airblasts to destroy cities instead of ground bursts
use casaba howitzers to destroy bunkers instead of traditional bunker busters

if you keep the fireball off the ground there's very little environmental damage, especially with big fusion bombs
the dirty ones are small fission bombs

[Anonymous No.16049247]

>>16049207
do you remember that lawsuit earlier this year about SpaceX rejecting refugees and other asylum seekers automatically during the hiring process?

[Anonymous No.16049249]

why wont anyone design lander able to crashland on moon? why every lander is so fragile?

[Anonymous No.16049251]

>>16049231
anon that was the Russians, Yuzhmash is Ukrainian

[Anonymous No.16049255]

>>16049247
I do, I guess I just never put two and two together though

[Anonymous No.16049259]

>>16048630
ISS iss kill

[Anonymous No.16049260]

>>16049255
yeah I had this guy >>16049219 to point it out for me

[Anonymous No.16049262]

>>16049249
Weight.

[Anonymous No.16049268]

>>16049262
make it small

[Anonymous No.16049279]

>>16049268
We tried on Mars.
It had a concrete shell that was supposed to shatter on the surface. Didn't work out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_2

It was cheap, though. We should try again.

[Anonymous No.16049280]

>>16049249
>>16049268
OMOTENASHI was supposed to do just that, sadly JAXA couldn't establish reliable comms with it after separation from the SLS upper stage and it just did a flyby.

[Anonymous No.16049282]

https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/28/rocket-lab-has-misrepresented-neutron-launch-readiness-congressional-memo-says/
>“In light of public reporting and media pressure, Rocket Lab has escalated their campaign to misrepresent their launch readiness in an effort to gain competitive advantage over incumbents and other new entrants by on-boarding into NSSL Phase 3 Lane 1 at the first opportunity in 2024,” the memo, viewed by TechCrunch, says. “Public records and information available to staff confirm that Neutron has no credible path to launch by 12/15/2024.”

[Anonymous No.16049283]

>>16048398
https://youtu.be/zSgiXGELjbc

The GOAT of GOATs. Every bullshit faggotry that's prevailing in society TODAY, he called it 30 years before it happened to the degree of accuracy that makes mathematicians blush.

[Anonymous No.16049284]

>>16049212
>Air launch to orbit
pic related

(TO orbit, not into it :^)

[Anonymous No.16049290]

>>16049283
>I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness.

[Anonymous No.16049292]

>>16048630
This thing is 30 years old. It needs to be transitioned and replaced by something newer. No need to deorbit it; instead use a couple of Starships to disassemble and pack and put it into GSO as a museum piece; as a flag to be captured by the new space industry to build capabilities to build another space station in GSO.

[Anonymous No.16049297]

>>16048920
>MethalOx engine
>thrust power far higher than anything ever sent to the Moon
>paired with anorexic sticks for legs
I feel like this could have been avoidable.

[Anonymous No.16049304]

>>16049290
A return to tradition, what he calls "superstition and darkness", is the only possible solution to the social decay he describes.

[Anonymous No.16049309]

>>16049245
But that will prevent the nuclear winter effect.
We WANT the nuclear winter effect in this scenario, where america farms its food via grow light. It's a cheap way to starve out the competition.

[Anonymous No.16049311]

>>16049309
it'll also prevent most of the fallout, and fallout is dangerous to everybody everywhere

[Anonymous No.16049312]

>>16049304
>I worry that, especially as the Millennium edges nearer, pseudo-science and superstition will seem year by year more tempting, the siren song of unreason more sonorous and attractive. Where have we heard it before? Whenever our ethnic or national prejudices are aroused, in times of scarcity, during challenges to national self-esteem or nerve, when we agonize about our diminished cosmic place and purpose, or when fanaticism is bubbling up around us-then, habits of thought familiar from ages past reach for the controls. The candle flame gutters. Its little pool of light trembles. Darkness gathers. The demons begin to stir.

[Anonymous No.16049321]

>>16049309
how to make nuclear reactor for electricity in my garage?

[Anonymous No.16049328]

>>16049312
>shipping our industry overseas is a mistake.... NOOO YOU CAN'T BRING IT BACK THAT'S NATIONAL PREJUDICES

[Anonymous No.16049329]

"Stop! Stop! He's already dead!"

[Anonymous No.16049333]

>>16049205
>>16049245
>>16049309
"Nuclear Winter" was a hoax perpetrated with the intent of scaring politicians off of nuclear war. Saddam debunked it when he lit Kuwait's oil wells on fire and the planet didn't cool as the "nuclear winter" models predicted it would.

[Anonymous No.16049353]

>>16049333
theyre closing nuclear plants to starve countries in the future, mr half satan

[Anonymous No.16049374]

>>16049251
what's the difference? heyo!

[Anonymous No.16049409]

>>16049292
Fuck that and fuck you, the ISS deserves to be entombed as a slag heap at the bottom of the pacific.

[Anonymous No.16049411]

>>16049311
yeah for like a year. not a real problem.
>>16049321
step 1 gather smoke detectors

[Anonymous No.16049412]

>>16049409
BASED

BASED

BASED

[Anonymous No.16049415]

>>16049409
we should chop it up into tiny pieces and hang it off the roof of the smithsonian with a shitty tinfoil copy of the russion segment

[Anonymous No.16049417]

>>16049333
zero percent of that soot was driven into the stratosphere by a rising mushroom cloud.

[Anonymous No.16049421]

>>16049329
> The MSR Program determined that for a solar-powered SRL (Sample Return Lander) if the 2028 launch date is not met, the next best launch window to retrieve the same quantity of samples is in 2035. This is due to planetary alignment and conditions on Mars that would negatively affect surface operations. However, extending launch dates too far into the future may result in a launch date at or beyond the end of the useful life of (the rover with the samples)

[Anonymous No.16049429]

[Anonymous No.16049432]

>>16049417
Carl Sagan himself went on record stating that the oil well fires would cause global cooling.
>When Operation Desert Storm began in January 1991, coinciding with the first few oil fires being lit, Dr. S. Fred Singer and Carl Sagan discussed the possible environmental effects of the Kuwaiti petroleum fires on the ABC News program Nightline. Sagan again argued that some of the effects of the smoke could be similar to the effects of a nuclear winter, with smoke lofting into the stratosphere, beginning around 48,000 feet (15,000 m) above sea level in Kuwait, resulting in global effects. He also argued that he believed the net effects would be very similar to the explosion of the Indonesian volcano Tambora in 1815, which resulted in the year 1816 being known as the "Year Without a Summer".
Guess what, it didn't. The nuclear winter models are complete bunk. They would fail when cities get nuked too, they make terrible assumptions about the flammability of modern cities and the amount of soot that would be lifted to the stratosphere. In fact those models said that oil well and refinery fires would be worse that city fires. The models are just complete trash, the whole thing was a psyop.

[Anonymous No.16049435]

>>16049421
Statements made by the utterly mass-cucked
>we'll need to wait years for the next opportunity!
Build a more delta V capable spacecraft you dumb fucks, Falcon Heavy exists and has like 16 tonnes to TMI capacity. FUCK.

[Anonymous No.16049437]

>>16049432
Being wrong about oil fires doesn't equate to being wrong about mushroom clouds.

[Anonymous No.16049440]

>>16049429
NOT FOR FLIGHT

[Anonymous No.16049442]

>>16049435
they're scared of operating during the winter or something

[Anonymous No.16049444]

>>16049437
All of their models for soot-lofting are trash. Their models for soot production are also trash. The whole thing was an exercise in massaging the models and numbers to produce a predetermined politically desirable result.

[Anonymous No.16049446]

>>16049435
If you can't built a MSR mission on a 16,000 kg mass budget, you don't have any business doing MSR.

>>16049440
Don't care. Still looks good.

[Anonymous No.16049448]

>>16049442
>they're scared
That sums it up well. And as we know, God hates a coward.

[Anonymous No.16049458]

Cancel ISS, cancel SLS, cancel MSR. Cancel Orion.
Buy out Starliner from Boeing’s aerospace division and transfer to new Blue Origin-United Launch Alliance merger—upgrade it to be CHEAPER TO PRODUCE (surely this could be done) and upgrade it to be lunar-capable to replace Orion (Starliner can go to the Moon with “minor upgrades”, supposedly)
Venus Sample Return, unironically
Europa Clipper can stay
Maybe cancel dragonfly, i’m on the fence on this one

[Anonymous No.16049466]

>>16049283
>14 years ago
I remember when that video was new. It was awesome, too.
Autotune abuse can really be cool if done just right.

[Anonymous No.16049469]

>>16049283
>>16049466
The same dude/dudes made other music under the name Colorpulse.

[Anonymous No.16049471]

>>16048419
>basically "you can't leave"
it would screw up their plans for you

[Anonymous No.16049474]

>>16049212
>>16049226
Landing a rocket on its ass is cooler too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSx4DGBstYA
Now that's my kind of "floating platform".

[Anonymous No.16049478]

>>16049458
I wonder how much money would could save on a Starliner service module just by using in-house engines instead of buying thrusters from Aerojet.

A Lunar Commercial Crew program would be interesting. Blue could bid an upgraded Starliner and I'd be surprised if SpaceX didn't offer a service module-equipped Dragon, but you know that someone like Rocket Lab or Northrop-Firefly would submit a bid out of left field.

[Anonymous No.16049490]

>>16049478
I think we’re eventually going to see a lunar comcrew offering from NASA

[Anonymous No.16049492]

>>16048930
Musk is a felon, HLS hardware doesn’t exi-

[Anonymous No.16049493]

>>16049471
they need to corral the goyim, any goyim escaping from prison Earth will be punished (financially)

[Anonymous No.16049494]

>>16049493
removing the atmosphere is financial?

[Anonymous No.16049499]

>>16049444
Maybe, but I desire it to be true, because it means we can use nukes to starve all other nations into the stone age just by popping a few dozen off in the Taiga.

[Anonymous No.16049505]

>>16049494
you know why jews have such big noses? air is free.

[Anonymous No.16049509]

>>16049458
>Venusian Sample Return
There will never be a sample returned from the Venusian surface. Ever.

[Anonymous No.16049515]

>>16049505
Why do whites have such small brains? Evolution is free

[Anonymous No.16049517]

>>16048930
>Artemis
>Keep it Simple, Stupid
Pick one lmao

[Anonymous No.16049525]

>>16048481
>gobbledygook
stop watching that jew

[Anonymous No.16049563]

>>16049515
>he typed using an invention of white brains

[Anonymous No.16049568]

>>16049444
Maybe, but you could easily make the case that had not MAD been propagandized so thoroughly, there's a very high likelihood that we would've already had a nuclear war. Even if nuclear winter is bunk, I think it's better than people operating with the assumption that a nuclear exchange is winnable. It is I think, but Jesus Christ it would be fucking terrible.

[Anonymous No.16049594]

Near miss between naser satelite and a derelict satelite
<20 meters
14 km/s
Everything turned up daijobu
https://twitter.com/LeoLabs_Space/status/1762851748702511418

[Anonymous No.16049601]

>>16048483
Let me guess, Alabama?

[Anonymous No.16049606]

>>16048470
>Hitler's impact?

Being? People rarely pick up Mein Kampf, or watch recordings of his speeches, so that part of his career has little impact now. His "Jewish Question" concept has stuck around, but is usually seen now as a very exaggerated polemic.

And the papers on rocketry and aviation his regime produced are as obsolete as most papers from that long ago.

[Anonymous No.16049625]

>>16048425
>In the middle of dinner, without any warning, Sagan slammed his fist on the table, sending the dishes rattling. He looked Abrahamson in the eye and bellowed, “I tell you, Jesus Christ is extraterrestrial!”
Too based for Bloomington

[Anonymous No.16049646]

>>16049594
>There are nearly 12,000 fragments in #LEO as of 15 February. This one incident could've added 50% more debris.
big if true. I can never tell if these Kessler whingers are making up the figures though.

[Anonymous No.16049658]

Zubrin is going completely insane about politics. He's down to like 1% space content.

[Anonymous No.16049662]

>>16049658
his life's work, the hill he died on back in the 80s and 90s, is being carved out from underneath him by Elon, of course he's losing his shit

[Anonymous No.16049670]

>>16049329
They were already trying their luck with the skycrane

>So much has to go right for MSR to work
>So much has to go right on the first try
>So much has to go right on the first try while being done for the first time
>No one is on record as saying any of this is realistically achievable within the budget and timetable NASA has stipulated

I want to see them trying this out on the Moon first before risking billions on something that might not work on Mars. Get a rover up to the Moon, have it grab some random rocks, have it meet a lander with a rocket on it, have that rocket rendezvous with a return orbiter in lunar orbit, and return the capsule to Earth.

And do it CLPS.

[Anonymous No.16049679]

The Soyuz took off rapidly from the Vostochny!
Today, at 08:43:26 Moscow time, Meteor-M satellite No. 2-4 and 18 Russian and foreign associated small satellites were launched from the 1C cosmodrome site.
The rocket has worked normally, the upper stage has separated from the third stage of the rocket and is now putting spacecraft into specified orbits.

[Anonymous No.16049684]

>>16049509
>There will never be a sample returned from the Venusian surface. Ever.
It'll be easy to send down phase change balloons to grab a sample then rendezvous back at the Cloud City.

[Anonymous No.16049686]

>>16048399
wtf I love space now

[Anonymous No.16049692]

FIRST launch of ANGARA-A5 from NEWLY built launch site on Vostochny next month!

[Anonymous No.16049698]

>>16049679
Winter launches are so cool

[Anonymous No.16049704]

>>16048594
Radio waves travel much faster than Voyager so they would already know we're here.

[Anonymous No.16049705]

https://twitter.com/k2pilot/status/1763007610993991722

[Anonymous No.16049707]

>>16049705
https://twitter.com/k2pilot/status/1763007616048099458

[Anonymous No.16049708]

>>16049707
https://twitter.com/k2pilot/status/1763086402936611214

[Anonymous No.16049709]

>>16049705
>>16049707
motorjets were a dead end in 1920 and they're a dead end now

[Anonymous No.16049711]

https://twitter.com/pronounced_kyle/status/1762945945120149955

1.5h interview with the founder of Astro Mechanica, developing a jet engine driven by electric motor compressors, making it efficient at every speed
don't know if they are going to try to make a first stage themselves or just sell these

[Anonymous No.16049713]

>>16049708
https://twitter.com/ian__villa/status/1763037304812126229
>At what battery specific energy does the efficiency benefit due to RPM not make sense. Or when does it make sense to have a traditional turbine over this?
>Also how much heat do you have to reject from the motor as a function of speed & how does air heating complicate motor cooling at higher speeds?

https://twitter.com/k2pilot/status/1763091596197924935
>If talking launch – 250 wh/kg works up to ~5,000 kg aircraft mass (not really enough for a usable payload).
>450 wh/kg can scale to a 20,000 kg aircraft.
>The turbogen is a better solution at pretty much all sizes, but development is longer and more expensive.
>As for heat to reject: our 4 MW engine will have about 100 kw of heat to reject. Meanwhile we're burning anywhere from 1-3 kg/s of cryogenic methane. Bringing it from 100k up to 300k gives us between 446 to 1,562 kw of exergy for cooling. In other words, we'll still have to scavenge heat!

[Anonymous No.16049714]

>>16049711
they're just trying to attract investors

[Anonymous No.16049715]

https://twitter.com/Andercot/status/1763063321857757210

16 tweet thread about adaptive cycle jet engines

[Anonymous No.16049717]

>>16049713
that's capital K Kelvin, not lowercase k kilo
these things are important, anon

[Anonymous No.16049718]

>>16049515
>Jews need Whites but Whites do fine without Jews => Jews are evolved to be parasites.

[Anonymous No.16049719]

>>16049714
of course, that doesn't mean its bullshit though
that is just what most startups need to do at some point even after seed funding

[Anonymous No.16049721]

>>16049717
this is why I hate newsanon, he's just a retard

[Anonymous No.16049722]

>>16049707

[Anonymous No.16049724]

>>16049722

>>16049717
>>16049721
???
I'm just copy pasting the questions and answers

[Anonymous No.16049725]

>>16049724
yeah
be less retarded next time, we can go read it our fucking selves

[Anonymous No.16049726]

>>16049725
what is retarded about it?
also, people whine when you just post a link and then they whine when you post the content
how about you just fuck off and never reply to me again

[Anonymous No.16049727]

>>16049726
nigger

[Anonymous No.16049728]

>>16049711
so... an airbreathing first stage or an airbreathing first stage that switches to oxidizer at ~80k feet?

[Anonymous No.16049729]

>>16049727
you should call your minder to change your diaper, you seem to be having some kind of tantrum

[Anonymous No.16049730]

>>16049705
how is this better than just driving the compressor fan with a transmission?

[Anonymous No.16049732]

>>16049730
electric drive is better than gearboxes for a lot of reasons, anon
there's a reason that everybody uses direct drive in rockets for their pumps

[Anonymous No.16049733]

>>16049732
this isn't a rocket, it's an airbreathing jet engine.

[Anonymous No.16049735]

>>16048594
Fortunately, the Voyagers aren't going anywhere fast in a cosmic sense.

[Anonymous No.16049736]

>>16049733
Turbofans using gearboxes between their compressors and their turbines is still rare, even though it's existed since the 70s. When was the first production jet with that capability again? There were two in the 70s and then nothing until 2016.

[Anonymous No.16049737]

>>16049715
https://twitter.com/Andercot/status/1763063338312061188
>Three modes are what make this jet engine adaptive - maintaining high efficiency at different velocities.
>Turbofan for low speeds, then Turbojet, then Ramjet.
>What enables this is using a second turbine which is always running at its ideal RPM to drive the fan

[Anonymous No.16049742]

>>16049737
https://twitter.com/Andercot/status/1763063345215943165

what speed does Starship stage at? this new adaptive jet engine is supposed to be efficient up to 6 mach (2041.74 m/s)

[Anonymous No.16049746]

>>16049374
Heh

[Anonymous No.16049749]

>>16049728
I haven't watched the 1.5h interview yet but I think its an airbreathing first stage with a conventional rocket second stage, but not sure if they are past the concept with respect to that or more just developing the adaptive jet engine itself
I would imagine it would just keep gathering speed in low enough atmosphere until the ramjet is not efficient enough and then launch the second stage rocket still in atmosphere but who knows

I think there was another company trying to do a first stage plane as well

https://www.polaris-raumflugzeuge.de/Technology/Light-Spaceplane-AURORA

[Anonymous No.16049750]

>>16049749
though this one seems to stage at over 100km, not 25km and the first stage space plane seems to have rocket engines as well
I am under the impression Astro Mechanica would not do that and just use the jet engine to get as fast as possible before staging
so I guess you would need a second stage that is even beefier than Starship relatively speaking

[Anonymous No.16049752]

>>16049082
Actually, her ass is literally in a vacuum. The moon doesn't have air.

[Anonymous No.16049799]

An astronomy group in Hawaii had cameras on Odysseus and recently released some photos taken by them. This one was from a few minutes before touchdown.

[Anonymous No.16049800]

>>16049799

[Anonymous No.16049802]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/02/vardas-drug-cooking-winnebago-will-be-remembered-as-a-space-pioneer/
>"We’re building (something) like a 1986 Toyota Corolla that is meant to be less than a million bucks a pop, quickly refurbished, and then shot right back into space," Asparouhov said.
>“We wish that it could have been smoother in some ways," Asparouhov said. "We both went through this process the first time and, as far as it looks, basically nailed the target for the first time (on landing). So I feel really good about the precedent that we've set, our ability to do this multiple times this year."
>For this mission, Varda's mini-lab grew crystals of ritonavir, a drug commonly used to treat HIV.
>"Eventually, these automated biolabs will get larger and larger until they become the size of school buses and take up full Falcon 9s or full pallets on Starship," Asparouhov said.
>Asparouhov sees these commercial space stations as "parallel collaborators" rather than competitors. "One day, when Varda has that school bus-size biolab... we can rely on those types of partners to do maintenance and docking with our automated biolab systems."

pretty long but interesting article

[Anonymous No.16049806]

>>16049799
kino

[Anonymous No.16049808]

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/02/maybe-just-maybe-boeings-starliner-will-finally-fly-astronauts-this-spring/
>We've heard this before, but Boeing appears to be a couple of months from finally launching astronauts into orbit aboard the commercial CST-100 Starliner crew capsule.

[Anonymous No.16049811]

>>16048920
https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/02/that-moment-when-you-land-on-the-moon-break-a-leg-and-are-about-to-topple-over/

article about the press conference

[Anonymous No.16049816]

https://spacenews.com/legislation-would-make-spaceports-eligible-for-tax-exempt-bonds/
>Rubio said the bill was vital to increase investment in spaceport infrastructure to keep pace with China and its growing launch activities. “As adversaries like China continue to expand their presence in space, it’s imperative the United States takes decisive action to bolster our own capabilities.”

[Anonymous No.16049818]

https://spacenews.com/virgin-galactic-expects-no-delay-to-next-suborbital-flight/
>In an earnings call Feb. 27, company executives said they still expected to fly the Galactic 07 mission by its VSS Unity suborbital spaceplane in the second quarter of the year despite an incident on the Galactic 06 flight Jan. 26 where an alignment pin fell from the VMS Eve carrier aircraft after deploying Unity. The company said Feb. 5 it had notified the Federal Aviation Administration of the incident.
>Executives continues to talk up a bright long-term future for the company once the Delta-class vehicles are in service. A fleet of four to five spaceplanes and two mothership aircraft could support 300 to 400 flights a year from a spaceport, generating revenue of more than $1 billion a year. Those flights would serve a total addressable market of about 300,000 people worldwide with the interest and means to pay a flight, the company estimates based on its research.

still trudging along

[Anonymous No.16049820]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/27/rocket-lab-rklb-q4-2023-results.html
>The company’s fourth-quarter investor presentation detailed several of the Neutron milestones achieved so far, including the beginning of production of rocket parts for the first launch, software simulations of launches and the completion of early testing of the Archimedes engines that will power the rocket.
>Rocket Lab also detailed milestones coming up this year for Neutron, including Archimedes engine testing and structural testing of the Neutron rocket’s nose cone.

[Anonymous No.16049823]

>>16049820
https://s28.q4cdn.com/737637457/files/doc_presentations/2024/02/final_rocket-lab-q4-2023-presentation.pdf

[Anonymous No.16049824]

>>16049823

[Anonymous No.16049827]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

another full stacking coming I guess

[Anonymous No.16049828]

>>16049750
https://europeanspaceflight.com/polaris-spaceplanes-to-begin-testing-aerial-refueling-capability/
>AURORA will be powered by four turbofan engines during take-off, landing, and pre-ignition flight phases. When launching payloads to orbit and during hypersonic testing, the spaceplane’s two rocket engines will be ignited.
>With the addition of aerial refueling, POLARIS aims to extend the operational range and increase the payload capacity of its AURORA spaceplane.

some news with respect to polaris

[Anonymous No.16049830]

https://europeanspaceflight.com/mapheus-14-flight-carries-442-kilogram-payload-to-265-kilometres/
a german university launched a suborbital rocket from a launch site in sweden

[Anonymous No.16049832]

https://europeanspaceflight.com/esa-to-begin-work-on-mars-transfer-vehicle-mission-concept/
>With the EP Tug, ESA aims to extend in-space transportation services to other planets, starting with Mars. The initiative will fall under the agency’s Terrae Novae programme, which was adopted by member states in December 2014 under the name European Exploration Envelope Programme.

[Anonymous No.16049835]

https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story/isro-will-send-a-uav-to-fly-on-mars-with-next-mangalyaan-mission-2504224-2024-02-19

[Anonymous No.16049836]

https://dmytry.github.io/space/
>Relativistic Spaceship, a website that lets you experience traveling at relativistic speeds (in your browser).

[Anonymous No.16049838]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/192271236@N03/52929040126/
>A massive dust storm near Olympus Mons on Mars, captured by CNSA’s Tianwen-1 (paper) and processed by Andrea Luck.

[Anonymous No.16049841]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_0H5h2seM
>Huge CHANGES at Starbase!

[Anonymous No.16049842]

>>16049841
>president biden is expected come to brownsville tomorrow (this was filmed on wednesday)
>it remains to be seen if he will come to starbase

[Anonymous No.16049849]

>>16049842
I will eat my left nutsack if Joseph Robinette Biden goes to Starbase. The right one too if he meets Musk there.

[Anonymous No.16049856]

>>16049835
GOOD MORNING JAI HIND SCANNING FOR SHITTING STREETS

[Anonymous No.16049857]

>>16049235
The hardest pill to swallow

[Anonymous No.16049895]

>>16049249
Just put the payload inside a zorb

[Anonymous No.16049900]

>>16049411
step 2, buy fire extinguisher?

[Anonymous No.16049904]

>>16049750
The US won't let this happen unless it is unimportant smallsat shit.

[Anonymous No.16049912]

>>16049904
they won't let a german company develop a spaceplane? or what are you talking about
how would they stop it?

[Anonymous No.16049918]

https://planetocracy.substack.com/p/substance-and-spectacle

[Anonymous No.16049922]

>>16049918
I guarantee you “cool photos” had no sway in congress’ opinion. They wanna see cash flow. That’s all that matters

[Anonymous No.16049924]

>>16049922
what do you mean?
NASA doesn't have cashflow
or are you talking about suppliers getting more contracts and thus cash flow?

[Anonymous No.16049932]

>>16049924
the latter

[Anonymous No.16049964]

>>16049849
Why do you have two nutsacks?

[Anonymous No.16049971]

>>16049924
They want that delicious space pork.

[Anonymous No.16049976]

I don't like the name "Starship".
It's both the name of the spaceship AND the rocket

[Anonymous No.16049981]

>>16049976
no, its a ship and a booster, together spaceship

[Anonymous No.16049983]

>>16049981
i just realized i dont like word star, its obviously never leaving solar system
it should be called spaceship

[Anonymous No.16050012]

>>16049799
can they be sued? this is proprietary data

[Anonymous No.16050014]

>>16049799
damn this is an incredible shot

[Anonymous No.16050015]

>>16049932
>>16049971
generally that would make sense, but this thing is made with cots material and is very cheap relatively speaking, basically the opposite what oldspace usually wants to do

[Anonymous No.16050016]

>>16049983
astronaut = star sailor
cosmonaut = "space" sailor but really cosmos is everywhere

[Anonymous No.16050017]

>>16049838
Communism and silver-medal space programs. Don’t know why, but it seems to be a solid combo.
USA / private enterprise will always be numba wan though—so sorry chinks

[Anonymous No.16050019]

>>16050016
Cosmodrome > Space Port
I don’t understand why this has to strictly be a “russian” thing, besides historical precedence. Cosmodrome rolls off the tongue better

[Anonymous No.16050021]

>>16050019
Astrodrome, Spatiodrome, Taikodrome, Vyomadrome

[Anonymous No.16050027]

>>16049828
oh neat it's Black Colt

[Anonymous No.16050030]

MY LEG!

[Anonymous No.16050033]

Another Starlink launch in 20 minutes

[Anonymous No.16050038]

Humina humina humina

[Anonymous No.16050040]

>>16049724
keep at it

[Anonymous No.16050045]

>>16050038
super cute

[Anonymous No.16050048]

>>16050038

[Anonymous No.16050050]

>>16049818
They need to find a military use for this thing ASAP like RocketLab's HASTE.

[Anonymous No.16050051]

>>16049816
Hope this mindset gets Canada to finish the Cyclone 4M pad.

[Anonymous No.16050052]

>>16050048
stupid frogposter

[Anonymous No.16050058]

Let's celebrate!

[Anonymous No.16050060]

>>16050038
Baby girl got them hips

[Anonymous No.16050061]

Why is Xitter still shit?

[Anonymous No.16050064]

>>16050061
Space X is great if you only follow X spaces

[Anonymous No.16050067]

>>16050064
Follow what? I have an account there for news, like Berger or Foust.

[Anonymous No.16050070]

>>16050067
Then what's the problem?

[Anonymous No.16050074]

>>16050070
I have no idea what X spaces are.

[Anonymous No.16050078]

>>16050074
I'm just messing with you. All I do on X is read space news and hoard rocket girls, probably my most successful hobby

[Anonymous No.16050080]

>>16050078
have you ever seen a gijinka of the LEM?

[Anonymous No.16050082]

>>16050080
No. It's probably out there

[Anonymous No.16050086]

>>16050058
Those balloons present a collision risk, space them out by at least 10m or lose your cake license

[Anonymous No.16050089]

>>16050050
I'm surprised it has stayed alive this long
hybrid rocket engine, like wtf

[Anonymous No.16050090]

>>16050086
Hey retard! Dunno if ya know this, but errr FCC is NOT the FAA :) Just tryna guide ya a bit

[Anonymous No.16050092]

>>16050090
FCC is trying to regulate all kinds of shit too

[Anonymous No.16050096]

>>16050052
dumb cunny poster

[Anonymous No.16050097]

>>16050052
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.16050100]

>>16050052
nice ass on her ngl, and im not even a pedo

[Anonymous No.16050105]

>>16050090
All I see are obstacles to be destroyed

[Anonymous No.16050110]

https://twitter.com/Int_Machines/status/1763223378293395535

[Anonymous No.16050113]

>>16050110
is this the first male spacecraft?

[Anonymous No.16050119]

wait ...
2001, a space odyssey
2024, a moon lander odysseus
correlation

[Anonymous No.16050167]

>>16049670
Or try a Phobos sample return first. That also works out the bugs on half the mission, especially the planetary protection autism half.

[Anonymous No.16050172]

"Pinpoint landing accuracy powered by Intel and Google AI."

[Anonymous No.16050175]

>>16050110
>additional data at 25kbs that is.

[Anonymous No.16050197]

>>16049749
What ever happened to SABRE any way.
I assumed the military would be on that shit like white on rice

[Anonymous No.16050215]

>>16050172
Honestly it would have worked if that were true

[Anonymous No.16050244]

>>16050197
Still in development. They're working towards a Mach 5 demonstrator. They were limited by being a British company when the UK military is broke, and the government would rather pay foreign companies than invest. I think they built a facility in the US, and can get some funding that way.

[Anonymous No.16050249]

They're stacking again

[Anonymous No.16050254]

>>16050249
they can't keep getting away with it

[Anonymous No.16050257]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

[Anonymous No.16050258]

>>16050249
You put the rocket on then you take the rocket off then you put the rocket on then you take the rocket off then you put the rocket on then you take the rocket off

[Anonymous No.16050314]

>>16049021
>Weight: 1764 lbs
>lbs

[Anonymous No.16050323]

>>16050172
And forgetting to remove the REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT tags on LIDAR brought to you by DEI and the competency crisis.

"I'M ON BRAKE!"

[Anonymous No.16050337]

>>16050249
Still gotta FTS

[Anonymous No.16050340]

>>16050323
Oh so we're racist now. ok

[Anonymous No.16050346]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX8OYcUSMLU

hot stuff

[Anonymous No.16050350]

>>16050340
>now

[Anonymous No.16050354]

>>16050058
>this is where your tax dollars are going

[Anonymous No.16050406]

>>16050038
She should have 'Not for Flight' tattooed all over her.

[Anonymous No.16050420]

>>16050406
and ruin her pure body?

[Anonymous No.16050423]

>>16050354
You should be more concerned with money being wasted on welfare than a cheap cake and pack of oreos.

[Anonymous No.16050430]

get the FUCK in here
https://www.youtube.com/live/LaibbxY9YOo?si=4Tdl4cC7nN_S4Vdh
https://www.youtube.com/live/LaibbxY9YOo?si=4Tdl4cC7nN_S4Vdh

[Anonymous No.16050434]

>>16050430
In where? Why should we?

[Anonymous No.16050440]

>>16050080
There's one for Saturn V. The LEM would be hiding under her hat.

[Anonymous No.16050441]

wtf does bill nelson even do

[Anonymous No.16050444]

>>16049568
Nuclear Winter != MAD

MAD existed (and worked) before the Nuclear Winter hoax was implemented. The hoax was motivated by a perceived need to scare politicians away from nuclear war, but that perceived need was never a real actual need. Everybody knew that nuclear war was an undesirable outcome, which was best prevented by preparing to fight and "win" a nuclear war, and that's why it never happened.

[Anonymous No.16050445]

>>16050441
Decays quietly in his chair like all feeble old men.

[Anonymous No.16050447]

>>16049733
>airbreathing
disgusting. I would never breath air, people fart in it.

[Anonymous No.16050449]

4ASS will grow stronger and more schizo.

[Anonymous No.16050450]

>>16049707
>YC
DOA

[Anonymous No.16050472]

>>16050314
Metric and Imperial are, equally, conjured up from nothing-and both are a human invention/convention

[Anonymous No.16050478]

>>16049064
Russia needs them. If their own assets aren't enough, the Russian state will bail them out. NASA doesn't need to fund itself on its own revenue, neither does Roscosmos.

[Anonymous No.16050480]

>>16050249

[Anonymous No.16050490]

>>16049064
Russia needs them. Space is more relevant than ever, for military, commercial and prestige reasons. If Roscosmos' own assets aren't enough, the Russian state will bail them out.

[Anonymous No.16050496]

>>16050249
POTUS is in town. Even if you hate him, it’s [arguably] the patriotic duty of SX to set up the photoshoot for him. Hate the emperor, love the empire.

[Anonymous No.16050498]

>>16048311
Can any random fags write a book to be shilled on every space adjacent podcast and youtube channel known to man? what the fuck is with these jewish rats digging into all my obscure internet safe spaces?

[Anonymous No.16050501]

>>16049312
He called the corporate takeover of America creating the fertile ground that led to the rise of Trump and subversion of our democratic principles by foreign state actors hostile to our societal interests so presciently. It's fucking scary how right he was.

[Anonymous No.16050502]

>>16050498
Yes literally anyone can do it. He did, you didn’t. What’s the confusion

[Anonymous No.16050503]

>>16049421
>if they don't make the 2028 window, the next time NASA lands a probe on Mars, there'll be a row of 20 Starships it'll look at form its camera and some yahoo giving the probe the finger for laughs.

[Anonymous No.16050504]

>>16049409
You promise?

[Anonymous No.16050508]

>>16050501
>the rise of Trump and subversion of our democratic principles
Who is banning front-runners from the ballot again?

[Anonymous No.16050514]

>>16050502
I did write a book. How do I get every podcast on the planet to shill it for me?

[Anonymous No.16050521]

>>16049964
One's a backup.

[Anonymous No.16050522]

>>16050514
It’s better to cultivate an audience over the course of at LEAST 5 years (better to do 10 or more before your first book)
Then you hype it up so it gets put on people’s radar
Then you release it and consistently shill the HELL out of it for a good year and a half
That’s what these people are doing.

Of course, you can make it big “cold turkey” by just bringing a book to a publisher and praying to God, but that’s like 1 in a trillion. Think J.K. Rowling.

[Anonymous No.16050537]

>>16050441
Provides invaluable ballast

[Anonymous No.16050540]

>>16050514
Are you a universally beloved Jewish webcomic writer?

[Anonymous No.16050541]

>>16050314
Take your discord tranny meme and gtfo

[Anonymous No.16050556]

>Nikon mirrorless is going to the Moon!
>Nikon has entered a Space Act agreement to support @NASAArtemis with the Z 9. Our engineers are working closely with @NASA to develop solutions to maximize reliability when operating in the extremely harsh lunar environment
Why are those camera manufacturers all Japanese?

[Anonymous No.16050591]

>>16050501
>putting the candidate who leading in polls in jail will protect democracy

[Anonymous No.16050626]

>>16050556
Entered the market at a key time where foreign electronics were palatable to the American market. Maintained by companies that competed on quality and price and not just price. Japan also had skilled engineers who now couldn't work for military companies and needed things to do.

[Anonymous No.16050641]

>>16050514
Sounds like you have written too many books

[Anonymous No.16050656]

>>16050175
beeeeeeeeeeBEEEEEEEEEECHIRPCHIRPCHIRPskrawglmnk
CONNECT 19200

[Anonymous No.16050667]

>>16050258
and you shake it all about and you do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around
and that’s what it’s all about

[Anonymous No.16050674]

Big rocket

[Anonymous No.16050681]

>>16050674
I wonder how the windows will actually look on the eventual factory design. And on HLS for that matter.

[Anonymous No.16050683]

>>16050681
“regular” crew Starships might end up looking a lot like hls Moonship

[Anonymous No.16050684]

>>16050681
I'd expect a set or circular windows for each level, similar to airliners.

[Anonymous No.16050711]

>>16050591
He's a dumb fuck that deserves it. All he LITERALLY HAD TO DO, was take a step back and let Fauci do his job and then take all the credit and not try to stick his dick in the process, and he would have landslide destroyed Biden in the 2020 election without needing to engage in all the other bullshit that he went on to do. He's literally his own worst enemy, and a vindictive asshole is not good for the country to be in power. Literally anybody else. Also, leading in polls doesn't mean jack shit for protection of democracy. Hitler and Stalin and Mao all killed tens of millions of people; they're all leading in the polls for kill streaks. They weren't good for the planet either.

[Anonymous No.16050714]

>>16050681
They'll need to figure out how to make transparent aluminium first. Traditional glass or incredibly thick plexiglass or a hybrid of the two will weigh a ridiculous amount and will eat into mass to orbit performance that Elon constantly talks about the same way that Tory can't shut the fuck up about custom milimeter thick milled steel for tank shells for the VC second stage. It's the same shit different mouth.

[Anonymous No.16050716]

>>16050674
Are those new Starlink antenna placements?

[Anonymous No.16050718]

>>16050681
There won't be any windows.

[Anonymous No.16050723]

[Anonymous No.16050727]

>>16050714
>They'll need to figure out how to make transparent aluminium first
it’s called sapphire and we’ve known how to make it for over a century.

[Anonymous No.16050728]

>>16050723
>Bezos
...which is seeking to reach orbit, someday
>Branson
orbital launch vehicles are already off the table
and Paul Allen was fucking around with air launch too
>Musk
doing as much as he can of what the FAA will let him do, trying to get a second generation rocket to orbit

[Anonymous No.16050734]

>>16050723
Was this written by AI?

[Anonymous No.16050735]

>>16050711
>let Fauci do his job and then take all the credit and not try to stick his dick in the process
If Fauci has his way we would still be in lockdown.
Retard

[Anonymous No.16050746]

>>16050734
>the billionaire space race is primarily between three billionaires
You really gotta wonder. You might be able to justify the phrase by noting that Peter Beck's net worth is somewhere between $250M and $500M and that figure seems to be trending upwards, but it's still the sort of grammar you'd expect of an algorithm trying to pretend that it's human.

[Anonymous No.16050751]

>>16050735
Literally eating glue levels of retarded. You talk like a boomer who thinks 5G chips are getting installed into everyone so the government can remotely disable people through a vaccine.

[Anonymous No.16050756]

>>16050723
I guess we'll never see Paul Allen's rocket.

[Anonymous No.16050760]

>>16050728
‘second generation rocket’ you say?

[Anonymous No.16050761]

>>16050746
Nobody gives a shit about Beck. nobody outside of autists and aerospace industry insiders (but i repeat myself) has even heard of him.

[Anonymous No.16050768]

>>16050760
second for them

[Anonymous No.16050772]

>>16050723
>Richard Branson
yeah this narrative is purely commie bait.
there is about 10 newspace companies that are more relevant than Virgin

[Anonymous No.16050775]

>>16050716
No idea. Previous Ships had one in the middle. Maybe those are regular antennas to connect with groundstations.

[Anonymous No.16050778]

>>16050768
Ah got it

[Anonymous No.16050782]

>>16050716
Yes they are Starlinks.

[Anonymous No.16050783]

>>16050751
Not an argument

[Anonymous No.16050791]

>>16050775
it still has that giant pizza in the mid body

[Anonymous No.16050793]

why are we talking about political response to the coronavirus in my space flight-general?

[Anonymous No.16050794]

>All he LITERALLY HAD TO DO, was take a step back and let Fauci do his job and then take all the credit and not try to stick his dick in the process

[Anonymous No.16050798]

>>16050791
The new ones are Starlinks too

[Anonymous No.16050816]

>>16049328
this. fuck that reddit crocodile tears faggot

[Anonymous No.16050839]

I had a nightmare that they did the WDR and had to do an emergency launch to get the Booster away from the tower before it exploded.

[Anonymous No.16050862]

>>16050674
kek why did they still make them hexagonal when the only non-custom tile is the middle one?

[Anonymous No.16050868]

so, how did the presidential visit go?

[Anonymous No.16050938]

https://twitter.com/farzyness/status/1763325378071007643

[Anonymous No.16050948]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C7KikyB3wI

next ship getting tested now

[Anonymous No.16050949]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlK5Wlu_muM
>Ship 28 Testing, Tower Two Work Starts! Starbase Flyover Update 33

[Anonymous No.16050957]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQTH0IGrwE

[Anonymous No.16050964]

>>16050957
how often do they do that?

[Anonymous No.16050969]

Staging

>>16050968
>>16050968
>>16050968
>>16050968
>>16050968

[Anonymous No.16050972]

>>16050868
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1763250085436026964

[Anonymous No.16050998]

>>16050938
okay, I listened to it
its basically all about Tesla