Do Ivy League schools really represent the best and the brightest talent the country has to offer?

[Anonymous No.16033045]

[Anonymous No.16033052]

>>16033045
Meh, that is just overpriced daycare for brainwashed morons who still behave as children.

[Anonymous No.16033092]

>>16033045
My uni > Your uni

[Anonymous No.16033103]

>>16033045
No, they are a collection of the wealthiest and most athletically gifted people though

[Anonymous No.16033121]

>>16033045
The probability of finding someone "bright" is higher. But there are instances of fucking geniuses going to no-name universities.

Like this guy here. >>16033092

All in all, some Ivys do have have geniuses like Erik Demaine of MIT, but if you go to a normal uni, there'll be plenty of fucking smart people/geniuses there as well.

[Anonymous No.16033134]

>>16033121
The specific program also probably affects things too. Some programs at schools are crazy competitive to get into, you're more likely to find a genius in the CS program at the UW, or in the mech engineering program at NMU

[Anonymous No.16033167]

>>16033045
top universities can hire the best professors, the ones with nobels, its like being hired by Real Madrid FC

[Anonymous No.16033168]

pretty much the only intellectual "golden ticket" to an ivy is something like an IMO medal or a paper published in a mathematical journal. otherwise, they'll choose someone
>wealthier (went to a prep school. this matters more because of the school's name than because of academic rigor)
>with more extracurriculars, especially athletics
>more diverse (meaning a niggertranny who shills for lgbt or whatever)
there's also the fact that these institutions charge ridiculous prices. a state school will be much cheaper and still have good faculty
so, in terms of undergrads, a small slice of "the best and brightest" go to the ivies while a large portion of the academically gifted gets spread out amongst other universities

[Anonymous No.16033169]

>>16033045
1/4 of the student's at my sister's ivy league were valedictorians in high school. You tell me if that's indicative of anything or not

[Anonymous No.16033181]

>>16033169
imo it's indicative of... being studious and not too dumb, in general. that being said, how much it means depends on the high school. getting valedictorian at a high school with no IBs doesn't mean much academically. (APs don't count)

[Anonymous No.16033188]

>>16033134
My university is sort of like that as well. We're not particularly crazy for most of our grad programs, but are crazy competitive in ECE and regularly pull people from MIT/CalTech because they'd rather work with our professors if they are working on the specific niche we excel at.

[Anonymous No.16033189]

[Anonymous No.16033586]

>>16033189
>Brown president isn't jewish but has a jewish husband
>Columbia president is an arabic woman
>Cornell president does not appear to be jewish
>Dartmouth president is a woman who is actually jewish
>Harvard president is different man who is jewish
>Penn president is a woman who appears to be anti-semetic
>Princeton president is a atheist jew
>Yale president is a jew
So 3 religious jews. 1 atheist jew. And 1 jew by association. I'll give you 4 jews. Always worth checking these infographics because 99% of the time they're wrong or way out of date which this one seems to be

[Anonymous No.16033596]

some of the universities with the biggest research expenditure aren't the ivy league ones
https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf24307

[Anonymous No.16033627]

>>16033586
Still a massive over representation

[Anonymous No.16033703]

>>16033045
they pale in comparison to oxbridge

[Anonymous No.16033760]

>>16033103
>most athletically gifted
lol what

[Anonymous No.16033948]

>>16033586
>So 3 religious jews.
no religious jew would be CEO of an university, except Mohel academy

[Anonymous No.16033975]

How is green mountain state?

[Anonymous No.16033980]

>>16033103
Ivies get gigamogged by (academically) low-tier state schools for sports, you have no clue what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.16033989]

>>16033045
You can expand your selection of schools to more than JUST the Ivies. Consolation ivies like Brown and Dartmouth are worse schools than places like MIT or Stanford or Chicago
But anyone who says no is coping. Intellectually gifted people don't go to shitter programs

[Anonymous No.16034178]

>>16033980
They excel in the sports that matter, rowing, squash, and golf. I wouldn't expect someone who went to a state university to understand that though

[Anonymous No.16034184]

>>16033989
There's definitely a higher chance of finding a genius there but you're kidding yourself if you think they "represent the best and brightest". Bush Jr went to Harvard and Yale, I rest my case

[Anonymous No.16034278]

>>16034178
kek

[Anonymous No.16034300]

>>16033167
Top researchers don't automatically make good teachers. Furthermore many don't want to teach much anyways so having a Nobel prize means very little in terms of teaching and learning.

[Anonymous No.16034335]

>>16034178
They don't. I'm not athletically gifted but I've competed at a varsity level in two of those events at one of those ivies.

[Anonymous No.16034702]

>>16033627
>racial diversity in hiring practices is good
not really. They probably just hired the best people for the job who were available at the time

[Anonymous No.16034733]

>>16033045
>be Caltech
>highest SAT/ACT score
>highest admission rate of graduates to top phd programs
>highest phd completion rate of its graduates
>highest phd producer overall
>highest nobel/fields/turing per capita among alumni
>highest nobel/fields/turing per capita among professors
>highest number of members of National Academy of Science/Engineering/Medicine
>highest amount of patents produced per capita
The only college that comes close is MIT. The rest are distant third.

[Anonymous No.16034853]

>>16033596
need ranking excluding medical expenditure.

[Anonymous No.16034942]

I saw a statistic that showed the average iq at an ivy was 125. I think it was Harvard. Anyone that is in has enough intelligence to stay in, not that it means much. Higher average in STEM for sure. Regardless, ivy schools are more about curating interesting characters since they are all fairly bright. So, interesting lore in your essay and extra curriculars that show you aren’t like other girls. Add in the occasional Asian with maxed out stats, but pretty boring otherwise and the actual wunderkinds here and there, boom your average ivy.

[Anonymous No.16035031]

>>16033045
If you judge purely by the success of alumni then ivy+(Chicago, MIT, Stanford...) are head and shoulder above others. Sadly, maybe with the exception of UC Berkeley, public colleges trail way behind.

[Anonymous No.16035362]

>>16033045
Nah it's just a nepobaby farm/factory