/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.16019862]

Is it really scientifically possible to get a reliable DNA sample from a cigarette butt?

[Anonymous No.16019914]

it is if you trust the government scientists who work in places like the fbi crime lab

[Anonymous No.16019976]

>>16019862
the real redpill is that DNA testing in court cases is mostly bullshit

[Anonymous No.16020199]

How did they get the DNA sample from her husband/brother?

[Anonymous No.16020237]

>>16019976
i actually wrote an english paper about this topic. i found in researching that the state run DNA labs in Austin, Houston, and San Antonio were all shut down in separate cases where contaminated evidence was found to have tainted upwards of a hundred criminal cases. keep in mind i went to school in Austin, those three cities were literally just the first three i checked.
some other issues with DNA evidence is that it should really be performed multiple times in multiple labs (see above) but the state isnt gonna bother paying for that, and public defenders definitely arent paying for that, and multiple tests doesnt even help you if the original evidence is contaminated. it also doesnt help that you literally *exude* DNA. the number of complete strangers with your DNA on them outnumbers the number of people you actually interact with by several orders of magnitude.

[Anonymous No.16020378]

>>16020199
they bribed him with a bottle of malt liquor

[Anonymous No.16020531]

>>16020237
>but the state isnt gonna bother paying for that
It's cheap as shit these days to get DNA tests. Certainly at least 100x cheaper than whatever they're paying the prosecution and all the other legal infrastructure that would be redundant if DNA evidence was done right.

I have a feeling that they can indeed afford to do it multiple times and do it properly, but they do a shabby job intentionally so as to release as many criminals as possible. Women's misplaced sympathy for criminals has been a disaster for the law in this country, and that is probably what is guiding this whole fiasco as well.

[Anonymous No.16020537]

>>16019914
Therefore 100% trash.

[Anonymous No.16021374]

>>16020378

[Anonymous No.16022872]

>>16021374
>enlarged, enflamed abdominal organs from alcohol abuse

[Anonymous No.16023789]

>>16020537
>the FBI are totally lying
Give up moron.

[Anonymous No.16023798]

>>16019862
>Anton Lazzaro posted the results hours before he was arrested and charged with trafficking underage girls
Explain to me in a reasonable way, how this isn't an attempt to misuse the law to silence somebody for saying something inconvenient.
This is exactly how the stasi did things.

[Anonymous No.16023804]

>>16019862
It's possible but depending on when the two were around each other, both the straw and the cigarette could have DNA from both of them on them, making it possible the DNA sample from both objects were from the same person. The story is unclear what the 99.99% match figure means. If it means the two DNA samples match each other at that level, they're probably from the same person. But it could just be sloppy journalism and mean 99.99% chance that the DNA samples are from siblings.
Given the less than idea collection methods, a false negative on the samples is far more likely than a false positive, if they are indeed two different DNA samples.

[Anonymous No.16023806]

>>16023798
It's possible the two events are unrelated. He might have been trafficking underage girls and Omar might be guilty of immigration fraud. Partisans shouldn't favor either of them getting off the hook, if either or both are guilty, just because the other did something wrong.

[Anonymous No.16024261]

>>16023804

[Anonymous No.16024295]

>>16023804
>The story is unclear what the 99.99% match figure means.
I'm especially wondering what the expected match would be for two "unrelated" people from a rural area that has practiced cousin marriage for centuries.

[Anonymous No.16024317]

>>16023806
>immigration fraud
I'm not familiar with the details of the story, but from looking her up on Wikipedia, it seems her family came to the US as asylum seekers in the 90s and she became a citizen, presumably alongside the rest of her family, nearly a decade before marrying her alleged brother.
If her brother wanted to be in the US all he'd have to do is join his family, no? Taking on a false identity to marry his sister seems like an absurdly complicated way to obtain citizenship in that scenario. And what, her family couldn't at least have found him a pretend wife from the Somali/muslim community in the US? It had to be his own sister?

Of course it's entirely possible that she helped commit immigration fraud by marrying the guy and divorcing him soon after, even if they aren't unrelated. But the guy was apparently a British national already? That's pretty good for a third-worlder, is American citizenship really that much of an upgrade?

[Anonymous No.16025690]

>>16024317
if you get both citizenships you can collect gibes from both countries. easiest way to get rich these days is to become a serial refugee and collect gibes from as many white countries as you can. in america you can even collect welfare from multiple states at the same time since many states have local welfare programs

[Anonymous No.16026812]

>>16025690
Hotwheels was collecting Los Angeles, NYC & New Jersey welfare for a while after he fled the Philippines

[Anonymous No.16028397]

>>16026812

[Anonymous No.16029326]

>>16024317
Family visas and spouse visas are different categories and one might be much easier to obtain than the other.