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16014200 No.16014200 [Reply] [Original]

was it all just a giant freak accident>??

>> No.16014461

we don't know. we could just be in a simulation, or inside a black hole. a smaller network of larger universes. an interdimensional trap formed by higher order beings to be entertained at our efforts to make it make sense.

there's no way to test these things because we're limited by our existence. back in the day you could say god did it all, because that was the best you could come up with intuitively. after all, you see a giant bright light in the sky moving, and you have no concept of stars, celestial bodies, or physics or mathematics. but you know life exists, birds fly and move, animals move, so it must be some bigger creature with great power.

we are building better ways to explain how things are occurring, but why requires a proper working model of how things work first. we can't even do that yet. we can't describe quantum mechanics and general relativity together in harmony. it's one or the other. the big bang is a place where we can't model it fully stilly. we can get temperatures close to it, but that's it. until we can mimic how the big bang evolves in a controlled environment, like a simulation or particle accelerator, i think that most of what happened was due to one simple rule being projected by a higher order being "increase entropy". everything else in existence is just a byproduct of that command. the big bang, stars, black holes, life, etc. it's all just from one rule. it's funny to think that if you let go of everything except that rule, you can get back everything. max planck was willing to give classical continuous energy mechanics but not entropy. it's that fundamental.

>> No.16014468

>>16014200
yes.

>> No.16014485

>>16014200
No.

>> No.16014738

>>16014200
Perhaps

>> No.16014752

I'm unsure

>> No.16014794

something like that...

>> No.16015161

>>16014461
What if there really isn't a higher being making this and this is simply just inevitable, think about it no one choose to be born, no one knew what the fuck was going on. I simply think we are just part of the universe and it's circumstances, I don't think its deeper than that.

>> No.16015229

>>16015161
that might be true, but i think we're capable of giving more meaning to things beyond that notion, and through that process, gain more insight that leads to a deeper, more powerful truth. Truths are not made equally, and i think that science presents a way for us to test our ability to not just inquire what drives the forces of nature, but figure out why we're compelled to do so in the first place, and where it will lead us. It might not be as good as getting a real answer as to what made us and why, but i think it's the next best thing.

>> No.16015252
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>>16014200
if you really must know...
https://odysee.com/@Realfake_Newsource:9/RFNS-12.20-002-008:6

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16015254

>universe is infinite
>that means infinite brightness somewhere
>but infinite brightness would wash out the entire universe, including us

>> No.16015267

>>16014200

Freak accident implies that there was some "right" way that it deviated from. The birth of the universe is as accidental as your own birth. Maybe your parents wanted you, maybe not. But you're here now where before there was nothing. And comparing existence and non-existence, existence is pretty cool.