/sfg/ - spaceflight general

[Anonymous No.16011885]

Non-degenerate edition.

previous >>16009206

[Anonymous No.16011906]

>>16011885
>referencing the other thread in the edition

[Anonymous No.16012055]

>>16011885
Based

[Anonymous No.16012380]

idiot

[Anonymous No.16012408]

>>16011885
based

[Anonymous No.16012459]

>>16011885
Based idiot

[Anonymous No.16013160]

[Anonymous No.16013467]

>>16011885
Finally, a good OP with no anomalies or observations

[Anonymous No.16013476]

Spaceflight is retarded and will never work, you as person won't get see any results, here are some copes
Do you want to understand more about the universe? Its astronomy and astrophysichs
Do you want to go to other worlds? Take dmt or try astral projection
Want to explore and feel like an astronaut? Do deep ocean exploration
You actually like to work on rockets and sattelites? Its the only reason to indulge on spaceflight, but it Will never amount to anything not in your lifetime

[Anonymous No.16013516]

>>16013476
>Do you want to go to other worlds? Take dmt or try astral projection
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.16013519]

>>16013476
You actually can’t astral project through the firmament. It blocks it. The only way to see beyond the curtain is on a rocket. It’s the only way to pierce the heavens.

[Anonymous No.16013565]

>>16013476
Man, could you just imagine if astrophysichststs had a telescope in space, without the Earth's atmosphere impeding it's vision? That'd be crazy

[Anonymous No.16013589]

>>16013565
? what?? that already exists

[Anonymous No.16013609]

>>>/trash/63069896

[Anonymous No.16013670]

what's the authoritative textbook for getting into GNC?

[Anonymous No.16013944]

>>16013476
It has always been about funding military applications.
Think about it: 'muh deep space exploration'
Even if you're traveling at the speed of light you're not going to explore space, lmfao

[Anonymous No.16014030]

>>16013609
at least put it in a fake PDF

[Anonymous No.16014065]

>>16013944 yes you would because the effect of time dilation would make travel appear instant.

[Anonymous No.16014112]

https://dmytry.github.io/space/
Notice how small the necessary acceleration actually is.

[Anonymous No.16014131]

>>16014112
yeah, if we could consistently accelerate at 0.1g for a year straight we could get going pretty fast
unfortunately that's retarded and unpossible

[Anonymous No.16014136]

>>16014131
Sure, we don't know how yet, but it's a good intuition for why speculative physics engines, e.g. QI, would be so important despite generating so little thrust. QI, of course, doesn't work, but it's still generally correct. Raw thrust doesn't matter so much once you're in orbit, then it's all about ISP.

[Anonymous No.16014140]

>>16014136
yeah, reactionless drives break physics, this is not news
go jerk off in the new physics for space technology section of NSF

[Anonymous No.16014166]

>>16014140
How about I do whatever the fuck I want and you continue to helplessly cry about it. How about that, huh?

Direct fusion drives don't need new physics, it doesn't matter that they only produce a few newtons of thrust.

[Anonymous No.16014183]

[Anonymous No.16014191]

>>16014183
Not helping your case darkie.

[Anonymous No.16014192]

>>16014183
But can the kid manually land a shitbox lander on the surface of the Moon? Yeah, didn’t think so. Stay hungry, kiddos

[Anonymous No.16014219]

>>16013476
Very cool, but I prefer not being an insane retard

[Anonymous No.16014224]

>>16014131
gamma ray bursts are just impatient aliens using laser sail propulsion

[Anonymous No.16014231]

>>16013476
bro why like do anything and care about anything
just overdose on fentanyl bro

[Anonymous No.16014249]

>>16013476
Astronomy is the equivalent of cuckoldry

[Anonymous No.16014250]

>>16014192
any child who cant fly a lem should die? ridiculous anrrative. Im all for space, but its way low on the list compared to feeding starving people. be real man.

[Anonymous No.16014253]

>>16014250
> any child who cant fly [a Lunar Module] should die?
What a fantastic idea!

[Anonymous No.16014265]

>jet-powered training orbiter
>uncrewed auto landing
1988 was peak spaceplanes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhU4DwzzEKs

[Anonymous No.16014269]

>>16011885
Skylab II, wen?

[Anonymous No.16014292]

>>16014269
never

[Anonymous No.16014293]

>>16014269
Rule of thumb for American space projects: If its mission architecture requires SLS, it’s GAY!

[Anonymous No.16014310]

>>16013476
>but it Will never amount to anything not in your lifetime

"A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit."

[Anonymous No.16014318]

>>16014269
That's basically what Starlab is, but it won't be launching on SLS.

[Anonymous No.16014325]

>>16014310
GAY SHIT.

[Anonymous No.16014348]

spaceflight is dead. we need more youtubers in space.

[Anonymous No.16014381]

when do we get to see this again?

[Anonymous No.16014401]

>>16014381
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.16014410]

>raptors removed from starship 28 two days ago

Yeah im thinking no IFT-3 until april

[Anonymous No.16014415]

Do you think normies/leftists would still like Elon if he never posted political shit and just talked about electric cars and rockets?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1754284799391416422

Seems like he's just digging himself deeper into a hole and more people are against him.

[Anonymous No.16014423]

>>16014415
I can't believe Joe Biden replied to him

[Anonymous No.16014428]

>>16014410
Already reinstalled my concern trolling friend.

[Anonymous No.16014431]

>>16014415
Lefties were told to hate him, it doesn't matter what he says.

[Anonymous No.16014440]

>>16014381
never.

[Anonymous No.16014451]

>>16014415
No, because "richman bad" and with how Tesla/SpaceX/Starlink are each individually popping off, they would have still hated him.

[Anonymous No.16014459]

>>16014415
Obviously.

[Anonymous No.16014460]

>>16014415
I lost faith when he got bullied by zionists into becoming a self-hating goy. I imagine they own enough tesla stock to control him.

[Anonymous No.16014465]

>>16014415
The normies like him. If you're talking about the communists left, they've hated him since he got rich back in 2017-2018.

[Anonymous No.16014569]

>>16014465
He's been filthy rich since the 90s. It was ok to like him because conservatives hated him. he was the environmentalist liberal darling. we had a political realignment since then, and massive propaganda from the power that be

[Anonymous No.16014574]

>>16014569
90s!?
Hes been super fucking rich since the 700's when he was born. his dad was one of the richest men in south africa which he conveniently denies...

[Anonymous No.16014575]

NSF looks like THIS??

[Anonymous No.16014577]

>>16014574
Elon Musk personally whipped niggers in Virginia back in 1855

[Anonymous No.16014581]

>>16014569
When he will grow out of his /pol/ phase?

[Anonymous No.16014591]

>>16014574
>since the 700s
It was him who developed norse longships, wasnt it?

[Anonymous No.16014596]

>>16014574
>Since the 700's
SpiceX has really taken off.
>one of the richest men in south africa
>It's the emerald mine rumor again
Go on give us a source

[Anonymous No.16014618]

>/sfg/'s face when the next Starship test launch accidentally triggers a kessler event

[Anonymous No.16014620]

>>16014618
kesslers's syndrone is the great filter cauae by the dark forest fermi parardox solution

[Anonymous No.16014637]

>>16014596
>source
Elon Musks father, Errol Musk. A known racist like his son.

[Anonymous No.16014645]

>>16014581
God I hope it's soon, or before he convinces himself to move to russia or israel or something equally stupid.

[Anonymous No.16014648]

>>16014618
I surprised no-one has done any studies (real or fake) about how close we are to that.

[Anonymous No.16014657]

>>16014415
Fuck you lmao

[Anonymous No.16014662]

What's the likely outcome/impact of this?

https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/spacex-probed-by-california-over-sex-bias-retaliation-claims-2024-02-06/

[Anonymous No.16014667]

>>16014657
I don’t hate that design, truth be told

[Anonymous No.16014677]

>>16014637
>Doesn't understand what a source is
You need to go back

[Anonymous No.16014695]

>>16014648
they exist and they're really boring, we're nowhere close

[Anonymous No.16014712]

>>16014569
>Conservatives hated him
Fanfiction. The only hate is from the commie troons

[Anonymous No.16014718]

>>16014662
SpaceX hastens their headquarters move once starship orbital takes place. Commiefornia cannot be trusted

[Anonymous No.16014730]

>>16014712
Your contribution to this discussion is worthless. Also you must be 18 years or older to post

[Anonymous No.16014742]

>>16014730
Nice but you forgot this isn't your reddit site. Take your commie training back

[Anonymous No.16014763]

>>16014718
Yup, easiest thing they can do is pull out of California entirely.

[Anonymous No.16014766]

>JPL announced today it plans to lay off 530 people—about 8% of its workforce—plus about 40 contractors, citing "a lower budget from NASA, and in the absence of an FY24 appropriation from Congress."
IT'S JOEVER

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1754995926090043678?s=20

[Anonymous No.16014768]

>>16014742
I think you're mistaken, you're a nigger who tongues my anus. Please go back to your Discord, underage zoomers arent welcome here

[Anonymous No.16014770]

>>16014766
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA BYE BYE

[Anonymous No.16014772]

>>16014766
Expected. 20+ billion for Mars sample return that not happen for another 10 years isn't sexy

[Anonymous No.16014784]

>>16014766
>Oy vey we sent most of your spaceflight money money to Israel and Ukraine and spent the rest on illegal immigrants and gender transition
>sorry goys,
>t. ZOG

[Anonymous No.16014817]

>>16014784
>putinbots on /sfg/
get out

[Anonymous No.16014820]

>>16014768
>>16014817
>If you don't send 200 billions towards Ukraine for ww3, you're a Putin bot
Is this your npc propaganda speaking?

[Anonymous No.16014835]

>>16014817
Built for BIG BLACK JUICY COCK

[Anonymous No.16014839]

>>16014766
spaceguy5 works at Marshall so he should be safe

[Anonymous No.16014858]

>>16014766
8% layoff could be good if they layoff the right people. which I guarantee they won't.
>lets see, we gotta make cuts,
>systems engineer, cut
>software, robotics, mechanical, navigation engineers, all cut
>reliability and testing, cut, cut
>human resources, business management, "foreign partners", diversity specialist, equality consultant, social media and outreach interns
>NOOOOOO we can't cut them!

[Anonymous No.16014859]

>>16014820
>200 billions
Confirmed ESL retard. goodbye.

[Anonymous No.16014860]

>>16014817
I emailed Zubrin asking him for inspriation and help with a project and he didnt get back to me : (

guess im not important enough.

[Anonymous No.16014863]

>>16014860
same

[Anonymous No.16014869]

>>16014820
>If you don't send 200 billions towards Ukraine for ww3, you're a Putin bot

[Anonymous No.16014871]

>>16014766
white males will be the only people fired, everyone else will be immune because diversity

[Anonymous No.16014872]

>>16014863
and yet he has time to post all day about nikki haley and meet some deadbeat opera singer to compose a mars anthem. dispicable. truly the jew in him showing

[Anonymous No.16014877]

>>16014820
WW3 is necessary for spaceflight

[Anonymous No.16014882]

>>16014869
>WW3
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.16014883]

>>16014877
Cheaper option is to just remove the current administrations and purge the commies from office.

[Anonymous No.16014888]

>>16014872
Trust the plan

[Anonymous No.16014894]

>>16014858
HR is the one who does the cutting, naturally

[Anonymous No.16014911]

>>16014858
This is how institutions collapse, the "unfireable" non productive classes take up more and more of the money/energy until people stop pretending the original goals can be accomplished anymore."

[Anonymous No.16014927]

>>16014820
hard for you to understand I’m sure but funding proxy wars is just about the best thing the US can be doing with its money

[Anonymous No.16014928]

>>16014766
Fuck these pompous idiots. So sick of dealing with their nitpicking in design reviews

[Anonymous No.16014937]

America is collapsing.

[Anonymous No.16014940]

>>16014877
this is true, almost every space opera setting has WW3 in its timeline. it is a necessity for discovering FTL, expanding into the universe, and meeting aliens

[Anonymous No.16014943]

>>16014940
>meeting aliens
More like evolving into them.

[Anonymous No.16014969]

Titan is more deserving of planetary status than mercury
How can you call yourself a planet without an atmosphere? you stand on the surface and you’re still in space.

[Anonymous No.16014976]

>>16014662
Let us pray for TCD

[Anonymous No.16014979]

>>16014937
JPL's decline is proof that doing things wrong on purpose doesn't sustain institutions or maintain employment, you need to actually keep pushing the limits.

[Anonymous No.16014983]

>>16013453

[Anonymous No.16014985]

>>16014766
>JPL loses 520 employees
>average 82 kg per US adult
>JPL loses ~40,000,000 grams
holy fuck, they must be ecstatic

[Anonymous No.16014988]

>>16014766
funny how nasa never had to worry about layoffs when trump was in office. funny how nasa's budget grew every year instead.

[Anonymous No.16014996]

>>16014988
Even with Apollo budget levels JPL would need to be cut down to size or eliminated.
>called Jet Propulsion Lab
>don't do any jet research

[Anonymous No.16014997]

>niggas forgetting that europa's liquid oceans are likely 100+ km deep
30-50km of ice ain't shit.
You won't find fucking anything at the underside of the ice, any life that exists will be microbial and sitting on the heat vents at the very bottom.

[Anonymous No.16015011]

>>16014817
oy vey it's beyond the pale

[Anonymous No.16015015]

Rocket Lab testing Neutron TPS on Electron like SpaceX tested Starship tiles on Dragon

[Anonymous No.16015019]

>>16014969
if you're touching the surface you're legally "on the surface", you only end up "in space" if you jump

[Anonymous No.16015021]

>>16015015
nice. Too bad neutron is retarded and too far away to be viable

[Anonymous No.16015036]

>>16014996
they got rid of the jets, research and laboratory to reduce mass

[Anonymous No.16015045]

>>16015015
>Rocket Lab
>Neutron
>Electron

[Anonymous No.16015055]

>>16014969
The solar wind is dense enough at Mercury that you could argue it's inside the sun's atmosphere and thus a moon of the sun rather than a planet.

[Anonymous No.16015063]

>>16015021
Neutron is neat from a trying new/rare stuff standpoint but it does feel like they're trying to hard to not seem like they're just copying F9 when that is probably what they should've done (no, going to Starship-tier is not viable, they don't have that kind of money or investor confidence). If their carbon fibre tech is as good and cheap as they say they should've just made CF F9 but sufficiently larger so a reusable second stage can be made to work. Basically what Relativity is trying but with the proven track record, but at this point it's looking like Relativity may just end up eating their lunch or even BO if New Glenn really launches this year or at least before Neutron.

>>16015045
Someone has to compete with SpaceX once ULA dies.

[Anonymous No.16015067]

>>16014415
NOOOOO REDDIT SPACE MAN. how the mighty have fallen. no wonder his hot takes get more retarded as time goes on. Bet you he browses /v/ too

[Anonymous No.16015069]

>>16015063
CFIUS would never let them launch a Starship clone from NZ anyway because of Chinese infestation.

[Anonymous No.16015070]

>>16014618
just two more launches doomer bros. Surely the doom is just around the corner

[Anonymous No.16015072]

>>16015063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB0udvtB5xA

[Anonymous No.16015075]

>>16015069
Well they're moving to the US anyways. Neutron isn't going to launch from NZ already which is a shame but for those reasons obviously necessary.

[Anonymous No.16015090]

Have I ever mentioned that SLS is built for big black cock

[Anonymous No.16015119]

>>16015090
Maybe it's best you just keep quiet.

[Anonymous No.16015129]

>>16015119
But its true, all white rockets are built for big black cock, especially the gingers.

[Anonymous No.16015136]

>16015129
>>>/gif/

[Anonymous No.16015162]

>>16015063
Relativity is a complete fucking meme. They stopped working on Terran-1 and kicked the can down the road a few years to the newer bigger shinier rocket so they can keep squeezing investor money. If they wanted to really do something revolutionary they would put one of their printers on a satellite platform and use it as a testbed for fabricating arbitrarily-large pressure vessels in orbit. I send Ellis a letter to this effect and he didn't respond because he's a bitch.
>Someone has to compete with SpaceX once ULA dies.
Blorigin will buy ULA, taking its place as Spacex's government-mandated "competition" and continue to do nothing of substance while Spacex reinvents the spaceflight industry again.
Seriously, nobody has even caught up with Falcon 9 yet. Nobody has come anywhere close. Spacex had to pull the Starlink project out of its ass so that Falcon 9 would have enough missions to fly. All this, and now Starship is looming on the horizon—yet another evolutionary leap when the world is still shitting itself trying to compete with the last one.

[Anonymous No.16015164]

It's over.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/02/humanitys-most-distant-space-probe-jeopardized-by-computer-glitch/

[Anonymous No.16015169]

>>16015162
How has nobody figured out that reusable spacetugs, depots, and reusable launch all need to cluster under one company to beat SpaceX? Imagine if one of these meme small launchers bought Momentus. Refilling the orbital depots becomes the forever payload and it's just fucking water so it's basically free and well characterized on orbit.

[Anonymous No.16015171]

>>16015162
They 3d printed a rocket. That's revolutionary enough. But 1.5 tons to LEO for $12M on a fully expendable rocket just wasn't a viable business case compared to its competition.

[Anonymous No.16015202]

>>16015171
They 3D printed a pressure vessel with some integral mounting and fixtures, but not even that quickly compared to the more "traditional" manufacturing methods you see at Spacex and Rocket Lab. They're leaning on the flashy and attention-getting nature of "OH LOOK WE THREE DEE PRINTED THIS ROCKET, GUISE" because all their investors are retarded boomers and Gen Xers who hear the hot new keywords and just blindly start signing checks.
3D printing isn't a magic pill. It's a manufacturing process just like any other, with some applications where it's irreplaceable and others where it's nearly useless or unnecessary at best. For making rockets, it seems unnecessary and frankly too slow. For making pressure vessels that would be impossible to fit in a rocket fairing, it seems pretty ideal.

[Anonymous No.16015208]

>>16014250
I could fly a LEM at 10 because I went to space camp, the negros can starve

[Anonymous No.16015214]

>>16015202
Being able to 3d print something the size of a rocket that would meet launch tolerances is the point. If you can do that you can print a lot of other more terrestrial things. Calling it "flashy and attention-getting" is missing what their printers are really capable of.

>not even that quickly
Which is why they stopped and why a non-reusable rocket isn't a project worth pursuing anymore.

[Anonymous No.16015221]

>>16015055
Moons are planets

[Anonymous No.16015234]

>>16014766
Should be 100% why is a research lab have so many people?

Few guys to cook up the idea
Contract out manufacture
Assemble or contract out at cape
Launch and give data to Universities

[Anonymous No.16015237]

>>16015214
frankly their 3d printing doesn't look much better than 3d printed concrete houses

[Anonymous No.16015239]

>>16015214
>missing what their printers are really capable of
I'm really not, it has enormous potential on-orbit. The main point I'm making is that the process is grossly unnecessary and suboptimal for a rocket.
Everyone wants to make a rocket, but everyone also needs a gimmick to stand out from the rest of the yahoos making rockets. Relativity's gimmick is much more promising than the doomed venture of trying to make a rocket better than Spacex can. Many newspace companies would benefit from dropping launch vehicle aspirations and instead applying their chosen gimmick in space operations.

[Anonymous No.16015261]

>work at JPL
>boss finds out employees have mass

[Anonymous No.16015275]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo_3QD4CN5Y
Attention: something is finally maybe happening again
T-18:00

[Anonymous No.16015280]

>>16015261
JPL employees hoard all of the mass

[Anonymous No.16015294]

ABORT

[Anonymous No.16015296]

>>16014985
lol

[Anonymous No.16015298]

>>16015294
The weather needs to stop being ass

[Anonymous No.16015300]

>>16015298
Californians have been saying the world will end because it didn't rain enough. Well buckle down motherfucker... and see you in arizona bay.

[Anonymous No.16015303]

Want to go to Mars but can't even launch your rocket because "bad weather"

[Anonymous No.16015309]

>>16015164

>they think its a glitch

[Anonymous No.16015379]

>>16015015
Does Neutron need TPS? Is suborbital toasty enough?

[Anonymous No.16015385]

>>16015379
It's much toastier than F9 because their tensile-suspended second stage can't separate until after fairings open.

[Anonymous No.16015520]

>>16014820
>he thinks all we're sending is liquid money
>he thinks those billions weren't spent in the 80's/90's
yep that's a third worlder.

[Anonymous No.16015524]

>>16015520
I can't wait to see GLSDBs in action. They're such an American product.
>hey we want to drop GPS guided winged bombs on people but we can't get our planes close enough to the front
>well what do you have?
>some spare SRBs and a big truck
>...
>...
>alright hold my beer and watch this

[Anonymous No.16015552]

>>16015524
>iowa
good taste

also weren't they co-developed by SAAB? i don't know how big of a hand they had in it but i'm pretty sure they were involved
btw, i think this gimmick of just attaching high-tech exoskeletons to dumb bombs will continue for a long time, it's just so easy, why build a new gift when you can just change the package?

anyway, getting a bit off-topic, do you think retrofits to old weaponry like that will ever happen in space combat? i feel like the first in-space lasers would just be one of those truck lasers but with big radiators hastily welded on.

[Anonymous No.16015564]

>>16015520
The money was spent in the eighties/nineties which is why the senate democrats "border security" bill was another $60 billion for Ukrainez

[Anonymous No.16015573]

>>16015564
>he thinks people quoting billions is the actual money
>not the value of equipment sent
when will they learn?

[Anonymous No.16015627]

>>16015552
The first space weapons were guns mounted on Salyut stations. If you mean the first energy weapons then maybe. I suspect some of our "spy sats" might have that honor if a war goes hot before they retire.

[Anonymous No.16015631]

>>16015303
people always say that. but the rocket is worth millions and can just as easily be launched on another day when the weather is perfect. im sure they could launch if they were pressed. you never heard about ICBMs being scrubbed for example. Its just why risk it when tomorrow is just as good in the grand scheme of things? even more true when its billion dollar mars missions

[Anonymous No.16015646]

I kinda want to work at NASA.
I hear the M-F ratio over there is very skewed towards F.

[Anonymous No.16015670]

>>16015303
Pretty telling how far the Mars cope is from current tech

[Anonymous No.16015678]

>>16014415
Yes, lefties loved Elon as le science man before he started digging deep into this early 2010s redditor hot takes

[Anonymous No.16015685]

>>16015646
the nasa slampig slimmed down so that she could get herself a man. female looksmaxxing is real in nasa just so you can get a 3/10 male flight engineer

[Anonymous No.16015707]

>>16014820
the fact that russia is getting slaughtered so hard for pennies on the dollar for america is a good thing
america should stop offloading old stuff and send the good shit so russia can actually be pounded back to the stone age
1 trillion dollar of the latest equipment and ASAP

[Anonymous No.16015712]

can you guys go back to /pol/ please?
/sfg/ is comfy

[Anonymous No.16015721]

>>16015685
New boyfriend again?

[Anonymous No.16015735]

>>16015685
You're very shallow

[Anonymous No.16015752]

>>16015573
>the equipment doesn't cost money
>it's all free
>there are no consequences to sending every US artillery shell to Ukraine
>the infrastructure and labor used to produce the weapons couldn't be used for anything else
>the weapons won't be replaced at much greater cost
I hope you just have really poor communication skills

[Anonymous No.16015757]

>>16014985
kek

[Anonymous No.16015787]

>>16015685
>Stares at herself in the screen instead of looking into the camera
Why do females do this?

[Anonymous No.16015789]

>>16014985
>>16015261
My sides are losing mass right now.

[Anonymous No.16015790]

>>16014415
>if he never posted political shit and just talked about electric cars and rockets?
Leftist here, my main issue is with his worshipers more than the man himself.
He can act like an entitled child and that's fine but when politicians listen to him we are letting a conman influence policy.

>>16015678
I liked him when I thought he founded Tesla, when I found out he brought it, acted like he founded it and launched the former owners personal car into orbit out of spite I started to question his character.

[Anonymous No.16015794]

>>16015752
>b-but we paid for these a-at one point
>s-so you just think it c-costs nothing
that's not what i said
>they're sending every US artillery shell to ukraine
no they're not.
>the infrastructure and labor used to produce the weapons couldn't be used for anything else
i mean if you want it to go into feeding niggerbabies, sure it could.
>the weapons won't be replaced at much greater cost
you're implying that they're not being replaced anyway, because they are, weapons from 20+ years ago tend to be pretty outdated, and the US MIC was already stocking up regardless because of it's pissing match with chinkland.
look man, i'm not the one freaking out over a magic number that some boomer politician pulled out his ass because he's insular and doesn't want the US to continue it's spree of proxy wars.
can you talk about spaceflight instead plox?

[Anonymous No.16015797]

>>16015790
>I liked him when I thought he founded Tesla, when I found out he brought it, acted like he founded it and launched the former owners personal car into orbit out of spite I started to question his character.
Nice propaganda piece, did you get from MSM?

[Anonymous No.16015802]

>>16015790
>bought it
he bought a dying company and then made it what it is today, it's completely fucking irrelevant whether or not he founded it because he most certainly did BUILD it.
i don't give a damn about musk's fanboys, schizophrenic retards for some reason see them and think that's a viable excuse to act just as unhinged on the opposite side of the coin.
no, people who treat him as a god are not an excuse for you to contract EDS.

[Anonymous No.16015803]

https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1755230043582718315

AXIOM undocking right now

[Anonymous No.16015816]

Why are Americans so nationalistic
look at these guys chanting USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI3bC1RlvK8&t=50s

[Anonymous No.16015817]

>>16015803
I just remembered those guys were still up there this morning.

[Anonymous No.16015820]

>>16015816
Pride and joy in creating something you worked so hard for. 20 years of work. People that worked on the project initially have gotten married, had kids, divorced, the kids have gotten married and started working on the same project you did.

lol

[Anonymous No.16015823]

>>16015816
they chant their countries name as it launches the largest rocket in the world to send a mannable spacecraft to the moon
what do you do when you country launches to the moon?
thats right nothing. sit on your cuck stool and watch America do it instead.

[Anonymous No.16015829]

>>16015816
Unacceptable! Shut it down!
This is racism!!!
>t. (You)

[Anonymous No.16015830]

>>16011885
look everyone, this is what a proper OP looks like.

[Anonymous No.16015840]

>>16013160
>be NASA in 1960
>Hire world's best available engineers (German engineers)
>reliably put persons on the moon way before a realistic timeline predicts
>be modern NASA
>refuse to hire true Germans
>has shitty SLS rockets, worse than Saturn V in every major aspect.

[Anonymous No.16015848]

>>16015752
sending over expiring equipment costs negative money, we save money by letting Ukraine and Russia dispose of it instead of needing to burn it ourselves in the desert
it's all free
cranking up shell production to send a bunch of them to Ukraine is the closest thing to a point you have and it's definitely worth it, TZD
the infrastructure and labor used to produce the weapons cannot be used for anything else
the weapons were already going to be replaced

[Anonymous No.16015892]

>>16015685
she looked better before except for the hair and dress

[Anonymous No.16015899]

>>16015840
We are in a relatively good timeline compared to shittle era. SLS is a containment mechanism for all grifters. If they didnt get a slice of cake then they would simply shut down human spaceflight. The fact that NASA chose Starship for the HLS program despite being much more complex and with more unknowns than the Blue Origin proposal proves that NASA is really interested in developing Starship as a launch vehicle.

[Anonymous No.16015901]

>>16015899
And then the Blue Origin proposal they did select as alternate lander is also fully reusable reliant on orbital cryogenic propellant transfer.

[Anonymous No.16015926]

I just finished a fictional biography movie about Elon. Atlas Shrugged. How does the movie get so many things right? I dunno. But it's a great movie.

[Anonymous No.16015933]

>>16015892

[Anonymous No.16015946]

No IFT-3 license in February, sorry Muskchuds but racists arent allowed to go to space.

[Anonymous No.16015954]

No ift-3 until Musk resigns from the company. The new law "equal opportunity for the benefit of the all" seeks to limit CEOs whose network is greater than 100b from running companies.

[Anonymous No.16015959]

>>16015892
>>16015933
>t. double digit IQ

[Anonymous No.16015961]

[Anonymous No.16015965]

>>16015685
Did she reach the "ready to settle down" stage?

[Anonymous No.16015966]

>>16015946
>>16015954
samefag

[Anonymous No.16015969]

>>16015946
You heard it from here first - Artemis III will not put humans on the moon.
It will be a ~10 day Gateway mission.
Screenshot this for reference in 2025.

[Anonymous No.16015970]

>>16015823
*2nd largest in the world

[Anonymous No.16015971]

>>16015965
shes an american woman in her 30s in male dominated industry.
of course she's ridden the cock carousel to hell and back by this point. shes had alpha fucks, now its time for those beta bucks.

[Anonymous No.16015991]

>>16015901
the blue origin proposal requires only 1 orbital propellant transfer rather than 15 and does not require the development of a new superheavy rocket. it also has a more reasonable form factor.

[Anonymous No.16015995]

>>16015991
Once the launch cadence goes up, the number of refillings is a nothingburger.

[Anonymous No.16016005]

>>16015995
I'm not doubting spacex, I'm saying they have a longer route from start to finish than they otherwise would have if they went with a different design. Starship is a very long and complicated road to get the job done. Imagine how easy it would be if instead of developing the Starship system they put all their R&D into a bootleg Apollo lunar lander and stuck it in a Falcon 9 fairing.

[Anonymous No.16016010]

>>16016005
*falcon heavy

[Anonymous No.16016030]

>>16016005
Nah, the longer route is if they didnt plan anything in advance. Starship is designed to be flown once every few hours from the same launch pad. They're building multiple launch pads and launch towers to support multiple launches. The only major milestone Starship has is getting to orbital. Thats it. Once they get into orbital, they will churn them out like Tesla cars at a factory rate.

[Anonymous No.16016036]

>>16015794
Every bomb and artillery shell wasted on hohols could instead be fired at Tel aviv.
And for that reason I'm out.

[Anonymous No.16016037]

>>16016005
>Starship is a very long and complicated road to get the job done
It's really not. The "simpler" or "less challenging" designs all either also need refueling like Blue Moon (except that needs to use hydrogen instead of methane), or needs a SLS Block 2+ to launch it like Mike Griffin's proposal, or are so small they're just barely matching the original Apollo LEM and aren't good for anything more than a few flags-and-footprints missions before congress gets bored. Designing something non-starship would have also required setting up a completely separate development program that would have run in parallel and not had anywhere near the funding or personnel as a combined program.

>if instead of developing the Starship
And there it is

[Anonymous No.16016050]

>>16016037
why do you have to act like a butthurt fag about this. I understand why Starship is being developed and I fully support it. The whole point is that it's NOT being developed to go to the Moon, it's just sold as a lunar lander for extra funding. Don't act like I'm saying they shouldnt develope Starship. What I'm saying is, for the goal set out by NASA ignoring commercial orbit and Mars, it would have been easier to develope something smaller.

[Anonymous No.16016056]

>>16016005
>they have a longer route from start to finish than they otherwise would have if they went with a different design

Note the lack of any detail of this different design.

[Anonymous No.16016067]

>>16016036
thankfully they will at least be bombing tel-aviv in spirit, since russia has a lot of jews and jewland has a lot of russians.

[Anonymous No.16016070]

>>16016050
but it would not have been easier to spend resources to develop that something smaller alongside starship, which is what spacex would have to do, because they're going to develop starship anyways.

[Anonymous No.16016072]

>>16016050
You're just saying that they should develop something completely different that does nothing to advance their mars goals and would take resources away from those programs. I get it.

>it would have been easier
The point that everyone is trying to get across to you is that it wouldn't have been

[Anonymous No.16016079]

>>16016050
Spx fags hate you because you said the truth

[Anonymous No.16016090]

>>16014269
Easily BTFO by starship wet workshop. Bring a long a mexican welder and some whipple shielding and you're good to go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0SNAsocIx8

[Anonymous No.16016091]

>>16016079
no, i don't hate him, he's a little slow, just like you, but that's no reason for me to hate him.

[Anonymous No.16016099]

>>16016050
Why should spaceflight be easy.

The easiest option is to not go.

Bring on the challenges and let us overcome them.

[Anonymous No.16016103]

>Wait 2-3 years
>“New study shows this popular moon in the outer solar system has a giant water ocean!”
>Repeat
Pretty soon there are going to be more major moons with supposed oceans than moons without. And we will explore 0 of them!

[Anonymous No.16016104]

>>16015848
>sending over expiring equipment costs negative money
Does that mean Russia is actually earning money on this war?

[Anonymous No.16016107]

>>16016104
that math only makes sense in the context of a functioning state with an active military-industrial complex with consistent turnover of materiel
Russia has been coasting on Soviet stocks and had a firesale on their industry in the 90s so they don't qualify

[Anonymous No.16016109]

>>16014985
lel

[Anonymous No.16016114]

Another RLA 120
Glushko Project 1975
33 tons to LEO, 30 tons with booster recovery (parachutes for slow down, propulsive for touchdown, like Energia), Zenit derived booster, but the sustainer is a, air-starter 3.9m diameter (therefore railway-fitting) Hydrolox stage powered by 3*RD-57 (120t thrust, 455s isp), the booster engine was an early, less powerful definition of the RD-170 with less thrust (600 vs 800t).

Announced cost is 6.9 Million Ruble, 5.3 with Reuse, for comparison, a Soyuz-U, at the time, was around 2-3 Million; a Proton-K around 5-6 Million.

[Anonymous No.16016115]

>>16016107
Russia still has a huge MIC compared to most states on the globe. They don't have consistent turnover of materiel, however that's largely because Soviet stocks are ridiculously huge, Russians are unrepentant hoarders, and much of what they've built for the last 30 years has been for export

Besides, it is not just Russia that coasts on old stuff. In 2020, USAF average plane was 31 years old. The Bradley ended production in 1995. Most NATO countries use 1980s era tanks with various degree of upgrades. Even when new stuff is being build, the factories are often very old. Do you have any metric that objectively compares Russia vs NATO countries in this regard?

[Anonymous No.16016118]

Listen here you tranny jannie do not delete any of my post again or i am gonna make this thread unsuable faggot, did that ban work retard bitch

[Anonymous No.16016123]

>>16016070
I know. I'm not doubting SpaceXes strategy like I said. I'm saying precisely what you said, they were going to make it anyway so they turned it into a luanr lander in a ham fisted way and won the contract because NASA is also itnerested in a reusable super heavy lift rocket.

[Anonymous No.16016126]

>>16016072
>>16016070
this is from the contxt of wanting to do stuff which has nothing to do with the HLS contract. I'm taking from the perspective of trying to compelte the HLS contract with context removed.

[Anonymous No.16016147]

>>16016118
What post was deleted? Was it your flat earth demoralization garbage? Are you gonna spam your scat porn that your jerk your tiny flerfer chode off to again like you did a month ago?

[Anonymous No.16016151]

>>16016115
I think it's also worth noting is that Russia's military has prioritized funding comprehensive nuclear forces modernization over the last two decades. The US is only starting to do that now with Sentinel, Columbia, etc.

[Anonymous No.16016161]

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNKzQLNiuY
somehow i thought there were fewer launches

[Anonymous No.16016167]

>>16016161
shittle was a mistake

[Anonymous No.16016169]

>>16016161
Why not counting Israel, Iran,SK, NK, and why Diamant and Black Arrow within European union?

[Anonymous No.16016193]

Last tank is arriving at the orbital tank farm

[Anonymous No.16016197]

>SpaceX has yet to submit all necessary information for the launch license modification.
>Statement by the FAA provided to @NASASpaceflight :

https://twitter.com/BCCarCounters/status/1755314277940858966

for ITF2, IIRC it was submitted in mid september (10-15 iirc), and FAA completed their part on october 31.
This will probably be quicker, but this does make a February launch less likely

[Anonymous No.16016216]

>>16014985
underrated post

[Anonymous No.16016218]

>>16016118
you'll get rangebanned, you know

[Anonymous No.16016231]

>>16016197
What modification? It's the same rocket.

[Anonymous No.16016235]

>>16016231
Approval of the next flight.

[Anonymous No.16016280]

2 weeks

[Anonymous No.16016282]

>>16016197
I wonder what faa demands are this time?

[Anonymous No.16016296]

Russian rocketry is a dying breed at this rate.

[Anonymous No.16016303]

>>16015892
>>16015933

[Anonymous No.16016305]

>>16016303
Pierce Brosnan activist feeder porn wasn't something I expected to see in spaceflight today, but alright

[Anonymous No.16016307]

Helium 3 bros, we are so BACK!!!

https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/07/ex-blue-origin-leaders-secretive-lunar-startup-interlune-has-moonshot-mining-plans/

> The deck also says that Interlune is planning to demonstrate the tech on the moon as early as 2026, with a pilot plant extracting He-3 in 2028. Should the plans work out as the company hopes, it told investors it could see $500 million in annual recurring revenue from He-3 recovery by the start of the next decade — and only going up from there.

[Anonymous No.16016322]

Just contributing what is equal to all other contributions to this thread

[Anonymous No.16016327]

Scat flatcel is back

[Anonymous No.16016346]

>>16016296
That doesn't look very nominal

[Anonymous No.16016347]

>>16016307
This is never going to work. He-3 is too scarce in the lunar regolith to make recovery economical on any scale, especially when you consider that you can manufacture He-3 on earth via tritium decay and there are (supposedly) easier fuel to try and make fusion work with. This is a VC scam.

[Anonymous No.16016357]

>>16016307
this is actually just a scam

[Anonymous No.16016370]

>>16016307
*Distant sounds of Harrison Schmitt cooming*

[Anonymous No.16016454]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOO!

[Anonymous No.16016457]

>>16016347
thank you.
it's not even a good scam, anyone with a brain already knew this, if only from various critiques of the movie "Moon".

[Anonymous No.16016477]

>>16016307
>>16016347
It's never going to work because Helium 3 is a dogshit fusion fuel, the reason no one is using it is not because it is 'scarce'.

[Anonymous No.16016540]

https://orbitalindex.com/archive/2024-02-07-Issue-255/#next-up-to-the-moon-im-1

> Next up to the Moon: IM-1. Intuitive Machines’s IM-1 Odysseus Nova-C lander—the next NASA CLPS mission—is scheduled to launch NET February 14th on a Falcon 9 (with the Valentine's Day gift of a nighttime RTLS landing).

https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/a-valentines-day-launch-for-the-next-u-s-moon-mission/

[Anonymous No.16016544]

>>16016454
Reddit science won!!1! I fucking hate these fat niggers. Every moon has an ocean pls give us more money to study le funny star wars moon, like holy shit its so transparent that they want to keep their gravy train going

[Anonymous No.16016573]

>>16016454
I predict the oceanic moons are sterile.
A shallow ocean is essential for life. There need to be places on the world where compounds can concentrate, so they need to dry cyclically. Maybe thereis volcanic activity in these moons, but so what? the compounds diffuse into the seas and will never produce abiogenesis.

[Anonymous No.16016578]

>>16016573
Some like to point to the vents in the deep.
You don't think life can start around the vents?

We know life congregates around them on earth, but that's not where life started.
I think the universe is teeming with single-celled life; but that we're mostly alone when it comes to intelligence.

[Anonymous No.16016593]

SpaceX scandal update: Elon sleeps nude in an oxygen tent which he believes gives him sexual powers

[Anonymous No.16016608]

>>16016593
Doesnt he have like 10 kids? He might be right

[Anonymous No.16016609]

>>16016578
I think life started in volcanic ponds, be that on Earth, or on Mars if life started there.
Volcanoes are essential, but if a volcano ejects minerals into the sea then they will diffuse and never become concentrated enough for life to form. Abiogenesis underwater (by which i mean in the sea) just doesnt make sense.

The dead sea is an example of concentration of minerals, its salty because its relatively disconnected from the wider ocean and has a lot of evaporation. Imagine a small body of water with a volcanic geyzer in it which periodically evaporates ~90% of its contents. That's the environment that produced life.
Perhaps it happened thousands of times before life somehow got into the wider sea and then somehow survived the very different conditions.

[Anonymous No.16016610]

>>16016593
based

[Anonymous No.16016656]

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1755259367668998298
>Nothing quite as pretty on a Wednesday morning as a brand new shiny #BE4 rolling over to get installed on the next #Vulcan...

>Manufactured in Huntsville?
>Yes

[Anonymous No.16016660]

>>16016103
>>16016454
Told you

[Anonymous No.16016663]

>>16016656

Sad thing. It will always be brand new.

[Anonymous No.16016665]

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1755394452062142844

>Another hopper?
>JiuZhouYunJian's annual achievement summary shows their Lingyun metholox engine powered a hop test in 2023 & CASC's logo is on the rocket.
>Interesting, right? The state-owned giant sourced engine from a private startup
>It's likely related to SAST's reusable XLV


You didn't think there would be a week without a new chinese hopper, did you?

[Anonymous No.16016669]

>>16015991
I doubt that only one refueling launch will be needed to top off the Cislunar Transporter's depot tanks in orbit. The Cislunar Transporter alone will need two New Glenn launches just to put the two halves of it in orbit for later rendezvous and assembly into the complete spacecraft, and BO has yet to state how many refueling missions will be needed to get it read for its lander refueling mission in lunar orbit.

[Anonymous No.16016679]

>>16016665
Year of the rabbit for sure

[Anonymous No.16016685]

>>16016679
judyschizo was right...

[Anonymous No.16016695]

>>16016665
It will soon be over for America

[Anonymous No.16016709]

/sfg/bros why doesn't elon love us like he loves reddit

[Anonymous No.16016712]

>>16016709
he hates 4chuds.

[Anonymous No.16016718]

>>16016709
2019 is eternity

[Anonymous No.16016722]

>>16016709
>>16016718
Reddit loved Elon in 2019
It wasn't until he casually mentioned Chloroquine in 2020 that they turned in him.

[Anonymous No.16016737]

>>16016709
I very much doubt he has the same opinion now
the spacex subreddit used to be okay at some point, but now its a lot of people seething at Musk and full of completely clueless retards that don't grasp the most basic concepts, at least that is the general impression I get
Like yes reddit is shit and has been shit, but there used to be some interesting subject specific subs there but when they grow they just become part of the bigger blob, all full of clueless teenagers or other retarded leftists, anything not strictly within the orthodoxy opinion is downvoted (some subjects are outside the orthodoxy framework and not yet politicized so they don't suffer similarly, but still you have the generally very dumb user base as a problem and 4 power mods that are the mods for 92 of the 500 biggest subs)
even using some subs as a news aggregrator doesn't really work because so many things have been politicized one way or another, so that affects what information can get posted in the first place

[Anonymous No.16016743]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTGqvwTDhAo

[Anonymous No.16016744]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTGqvwTDhAo
axiom space astronaut interview
listen to dumbass kids ask astronauts their dumbass kid questions

[Anonymous No.16016749]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1755409950053159079

[Anonymous No.16016751]

>>16016695
this cant be real...

[Anonymous No.16016754]

>>16016695
Ha, good for 'em.

[Anonymous No.16016757]

>>16016749
But Reddit told me he was a loser

[Anonymous No.16016769]

https://spacenews.com/japan-funding-water-based-satellite-propulsion-upgrade/
> Bradford Space and Aerospace Corp have developed steam-based propulsion systems, but Asakawa said Pale Blue hopes to be the first to demonstrate ion and Hall effect thrusters that use water.

[Anonymous No.16016772]

>>16016769
> Water is a more affordable propellant and is safer to handle than the Xenon gas typically used in ion and Hall effect thrusters, according to Asakawa, although it can not yet match thrust performance.

SpaceX Argon Hall thruster specs published last year, but kind of hard to compare
> Argon Hall thruster tech specs:
>- 170 mN thrust
>- 2500 s specific impulse
>- 50% total efficiency
>- 4.2 kW power
>- 2.1 kg mass
>- Center mounted cathode

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1629948869239873538

[Anonymous No.16016775]

https://europeanspaceflight.com/esa-boosts-deep-space-comms-capacity-with-cryocooled-upgrade/
> The antenna in Spain was the first to receive an upgrade that involved the antenna feed connecting the physical Ka-band antenna to the station’s electronic signal transmitter and receiver being cooled to 10 degrees above absolute zero (about -263°C). The cyrocooling reduces background interference that would otherwise limit the sensitivity and data transfer rate of the antenna.

[Anonymous No.16016776]

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

PACE should launch in 3h 20min

[Anonymous No.16016779]

>>16014577
Checked and kek'd

[Anonymous No.16016800]

>>16016540
Ad Lunam

[Anonymous No.16016801]

>>16016169
yeah its retarded.

[Anonymous No.16016810]

>>16016801
>tfw canadian
It hurts bros. Why don't we care about space?

[Anonymous No.16016811]

>>16016810
why would canada develop indigenous launch capabilities? just build a robot arm every decade or so and you get infinite gibs on american rockets

[Anonymous No.16016812]

>>16016810
>>16016811
We have our first spaceport and our first rocket launch scheduled for this year

Reaction Dynamics finished engine development a month ago
https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/reaction-dynamics-achieves-breakthrough-successful-completion-of-regen-cooled-hybrid-rocket-engine-development-testing-871503798.html

[Anonymous No.16016829]

Classic NASA moment

[Anonymous No.16016831]

>>16016776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEgQlSOD0oM

t-2h

[Anonymous No.16016846]

>>16016811
>indigenous launch capabilities
An inuit rocket sounds cool

[Anonymous No.16016856]

>>16016831
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1755453405521494164

[Anonymous No.16016872]

Is it true that NASA asked China for help to land on the back of the moon?

[Anonymous No.16016882]

is orbit information for satellites publicly available real time like air traffic?

[Anonymous No.16016886]

>>16016872
I'm sure the wumao would love to think so.

[Anonymous No.16016895]

>>16016882

[Anonymous No.16016898]

>>16016882
Yep, there's even apps that'll overall known satellite positions in AR so you can track them in the sky real time

[Anonymous No.16016905]

>>16016895
>>16016898
hmm, I've clicked through a bunch but they don't seem particularly useful. trying to see if Barry-1 has increased or decreased in average altitude over the past week. Lots of these site offer a projection for the next 5-10 days but that doesn't offer altitude

[Anonymous No.16016909]

First trans woman on the moon Artemis 3

[Anonymous No.16016941]

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1gqGvQMqNXjKB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng5CSXzi_J0

T-18 min

[Anonymous No.16016946]

Oh no you guys, it's on fire...

[Anonymous No.16016948]

>>16016941

[Anonymous No.16016949]

>>16016948
4th flight of this booster

[Anonymous No.16016957]

woosh

[Anonymous No.16016963]

>>16016957
Wrong sound effect. Rockets are BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo..........m

[Anonymous No.16016967]

THAT FROST FORMING

SO COOL

[Anonymous No.16016969]

sep

[Anonymous No.16016971]

buh bye

[Anonymous No.16016974]

SPACE IS DARK

[Anonymous No.16016986]

>>16016974
its also hard

[Anonymous No.16016988]

>>16016986
And long

[Anonymous No.16016993]

the white sun is built for space's big black cock.

[Anonymous No.16017000]

>>16016993
Why did this have to be the post that was bump limit

[Anonymous No.16017003]

>>16017000
nice trips

[Anonymous No.16017005]

>>16016909
hrt patch is the mission patch

[Anonymous No.16017008]

>>16017005
KEK

[Anonymous No.16017022]

If I took the complete genome of a chicken on a flash drive with me to Mars or something, what other equipment would I need to go from that to a live chicken squaking and walking around? Does that technology even exist currently?

[Anonymous No.16017023]

>>16017022
I don't think so

[Anonymous No.16017026]

>>16017022
not even close.

[Anonymous No.16017030]

>>16017022
You're a motherfucking genius

[Anonymous No.16017034]

>>16016775
ESA likes to watch

[Anonymous No.16017048]

>>16016829
I've seen this before...

[Anonymous No.16017051]

>>16017048
fucking sirs always being the worst niggers of spaceflight

[Anonymous No.16017064]

>>16016829
what exactly is supposed to be wrong with this?

[Anonymous No.16017095]

>>16017064
"we aren't allowed to plan around Starship so here's a reference design that is basically RDRE Starship with a Shuttle paint job"

[Anonymous No.16017148]

>>16017022
absolutely not, might as well ask for teleporter

However, chickens (and other birds and lizards for that matter) don't need a womb so you could inject cryofrozen rooster sperm into a chicken's egg, throw it into an incubator and it could be able to eventually develop into a live chicken.
https://youtu.be/xOLy6J1Sorg?si=m2WBzO_YNeFmf6Jj

unfortunately, chicken eggs are too big for cryopreservation and they would go bad before you could get them to Mars
at least I'm not aware of anyone being able to preserve a chicken egg while keeping it viable for IVF

[Anonymous No.16017163]

>>16017148
What about mammals? I know you can freeze embryos, but you'd need an artificial womb to gestate the creature. I know they exist but I dunno how long they can be used or at what stage of development

[Anonymous No.16017226]

Spaceplanes and nuclear power are both coming. The question remains: when do we see nuclear spaceplanes?

https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/glenn/first-look-spaceplane-stacked-and-shaken-at-nasa-test-facility/
https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/glenn/nasas-fission-surface-power-project-energizes-lunar-exploration/

[Anonymous No.16017240]

>>16017226
never
launching a nuclear tug or upper stage or a fission power reactor that hasn't been "fired" so to speak has much less easily spreadable radioactive material
its the waste that is actually bad so no nuclear plane for you

[Anonymous No.16017264]

>>16017064
they have to pretend starship doesn't exist and simultaniously really want to do starship missions because it's the only thing with the capability to do these things.

[Anonymous No.16017278]

>>16016872
We have 5 more lunar landers going up this year, China doesn’t even have that many planned this decad

[Anonymous No.16017281]

>>16017278
The methalox hopper boom being in China instead of the US is concerning. What the fuck is everyone besides SpaceX doing?

[Anonymous No.16017293]

>>16016005
>>16016050
Robert Zubrin, please stop posting.

[Anonymous No.16017306]

>>16017163
Artificial wombs that exist are nowhere near "insert IFV blastula into a plastic bag and out crawls a baby in 9 months"

The thing is, human babies do not actually need whole 9 months of pregnancy, you can make due with ~7 months if you use neonatal incubator and intensive medical care
Keeping a fetus younger than that is not physiologically possible because lungs are yet underdeveloped and cannot supply the body with oxygen.
Artificial wombs like pic rel are basically artificial lungs with synthetic amniotic fluid providing nutrition and other stuff.
You still need a relatively well developed "pre-baked" baby to do this (say, 5-6 months)

[Anonymous No.16017383]

>>16016810
In reality Britain is the first and only country in history to fully develope an orbital launch capability then abandon it. It was launched from Australia too, British Empire kino

[Anonymous No.16017392]

who else here watches ghettogaggers on the other monitor when the coast phase happens?

[Anonymous No.16017458]

[Anonymous No.16017461]

>russians are being supplied access to starlink through the UAE
elon got played

[Anonymous No.16017476]

>>16017461
Are you sure he got played? Based on his hate boner for Zelenski I could assume he was behind it.

[Anonymous No.16017479]

>>16017461
*elon got paid

[Anonymous No.16017488]

>>16016593
Hey! That's only half true

[Anonymous No.16017492]

>>16017461
source?

[Anonymous No.16017510]

Behold the first soviet Extra vehicular maneuvering unit, the UPMK

The main propulsion of this was 82 (42 on front, 42 behind) single-use solid motors each providing 0.2 m/s of acceleration. A small complementary pressurised air system would do the finer maneuvers.
This was reportedly tested in a parabolic flight, it got flight qualified in 1968, but never flew.

[Anonymous No.16017514]

Behold the first soviet Extra vehicular maneuvering unit, the UPMK

The main propulsion of this were 84 (42 on front, 42 behind) single-use solid motors each providing 0.2 m/s of acceleration. A small complementary pressurised air system would do the finer maneuvers.
This was reportedly tested in a parabolic flight, it got flight qualified in 1968, but never flew.

[Anonymous No.16017521]

>>16017514
Thats cool

[Anonymous No.16017523]

>>16017514
That's actually based as hell. More people should do just completely stupid shit. I hope as the barrier of entry gets lower we see more people traveling to Jupiter in septic tanks

[Anonymous No.16017525]

>>16016801
Still a chance Cyclone 4M gets set up in Canada.

[Anonymous No.16017527]

>>16017525
With how repeatedly bombed the old ukrainian missile supply chain got, they have a better chance of making an entirely new design

[Anonymous No.16017553]

>>16017492
its all over the news https://www.newsweek.com/russia-starlink-ukraine-war-elon-musk-1868125

[Anonymous No.16017561]

>>16017461
This is why I hate that NASA is suddenly all buddy buddy with UAE, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc

[Anonymous No.16017567]

>>16016307
Oh God somebody protect sam rockwelll

[Anonymous No.16017572]

>>16016090
That song is bullshit, illegals are not out getting DUI's bc that gets you deported

[Anonymous No.16017582]

>>16017572
ok thanks I'll let the creator know so he can take it down

[Anonymous No.16017593]

>>16017582
Please do. This inaccuracy is hurting his credibility on illegals.

[Anonymous No.16017602]

>WB-57 footage released
>Hotstaging and booster explosion are redacted.

https://www.nasa.gov/foia/nasa-e-libraries/headquarters-foia-library/

[Anonymous No.16017603]

>>16017602
kill them

[Anonymous No.16017607]

>>16017602
it's over

[Anonymous No.16017618]

>>16016573
>compounds can concentrate
On the ceiling? Quite far from the warm vents below but...

[Anonymous No.16017621]

>>16017618
if they are soluble in water then they wont really concentrate on the ice ceiling enough for abiogenesis. the water itself needs to carry a high enough concentration. Even if it was possible for them to concentrate on the ice shelf, I suspect if these moons have tectonics like Europa then the underside of the shelf is constantly shifting and being replaced

[Anonymous No.16017643]

>>16017458
>one's a pure virgin never touched by man
>other has had 46 different guys inside her (and a few gals).
I know which i'd pick

[Anonymous No.16017658]

we have a serious problem

[Anonymous No.16017670]

[Anonymous No.16017680]

>>16017670
starship night launch is gonna look insane

[Anonymous No.16017687]

Thank you ITAR verycool

[Anonymous No.16017694]

The 120 second video length limit is a pain.

[Anonymous No.16017708]

>>16017687
SpaceX should publish these

[Anonymous No.16017726]

>>16015685
interesting how /sfg/ closely observes this NASA employee

[Anonymous No.16017730]

[Anonymous No.16017733]

>>16017658
Tilebros?

[Anonymous No.16017735]

>>16017733
in shambed

(like S24's tiles)

[Anonymous No.16017739]

[Anonymous No.16017753]

>russia finds a workaround to get starlink access
retards: JAIL ELON NOW

[Anonymous No.16017768]

>>16017643
You're very shallow

[Anonymous No.16017775]

>>16017753
>Nobody:
>Absolutely nothing
>Lefties pathologically obsessed with their white whale:
>JAIL ELON NOW

[Anonymous No.16017797]

>>16017687
>mfw landing will be a trade secret
We're gonna be cucked out of the greatest footage of all time screencap this

[Anonymous No.16017818]

>>16017739
N

[Anonymous No.16017840]

>>16017818
I

[Anonymous No.16017841]

>>16017840
G

[Anonymous No.16017842]

>>16017840
G

[Anonymous No.16017845]

>>16017842
E

[Anonymous No.16017853]

O

[Anonymous No.16017861]

>>16017853
S!
NIGGEOS, the certified hood rat cereal that all the little niglets love!

[Anonymous No.16017863]

>>16017861
Sometimes i forget how /pol/ this gen is

[Anonymous No.16017867]

>>16017853
>>16017861
One job and you decided to pull a starship IFT.

[Anonymous No.16017871]

>>16017768
i'd like to be starliners first. I would love her longtime

[Anonymous No.16017873]

>>16017818
>>16017840
>>16017841
>>16017842
>>16017845
>>16017853
Its time to D-D-D-D-D-D-DUEL
NIGGEOH!

[Anonymous No.16017886]

>>16017873
kek

STARSHIP FLIGHT FUCKING 3EE WHEN REEEEE

[Anonymous No.16017897]

>>16017886
More than two weeks. Less than two fortnights.

[Anonymous No.16017908]

If there isnt a Starship in February /sfg/ has to admit Musk is a racist chud liar.

[Anonymous No.16017917]

>>16017908
I already admit it. I sold all my Tesla stock and bought Pfizer and Moderna. Fuck musk

[Anonymous No.16017920]

>>16017908
>admit Musk is a racist chud
You say that like it's a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.16017925]

>>16017908
dilate

[Anonymous No.16017927]

>>16017917
I myself have started to vaxx daily as penance for my sins. even though covid is over. its the only way we former chuds can dilate out of this to a bigger future.

[Anonymous No.16017929]

>>16017051
at the very beginning of /sfg/ we all went on an ISRO kick learning about the various projects they had in development
there has been approximately zero progress in the five years since which really killed the interest in what they had going on

[Anonymous No.16017938]

I admit Musk is absolutely based and that mentally ill trannies will be banned from the Mars colony

[Anonymous No.16017951]

>>16017929
Indias new rocket is doing quite well. LVM3 has customers from Britain. it finally provided the payload to launch Indias successful moon missions. Its slow but ramping and im not even a pajeet.

[Anonymous No.16017956]

>>16017951
Good morning, sir

[Anonymous No.16017961]

Sfg group trip coming up, get in

[Anonymous No.16017965]

>>16017022
>not sending an astrochicken

[Anonymous No.16017970]

>>16017951
>LVM3 has customers from Britain
Oh be still my heart! Britain! Buying launches from another country, instead of using all of those zero domestic launchers they have!

[Anonymous No.16017993]

>>16017970
they could go via ESA, spaceX or ULA to name a few.

[Anonymous No.16017997]

when is f9 failure happening, been way too long since the last one

[Anonymous No.16017998]

>>16017993
True. The ISRO is, admittedly, the cheapest option with spare launch capacity within the ~sub 1500 kg range, and the UK and India have historic ties (for better or for worse), so it makes sense to look towards India for at least some launch services.

[Anonymous No.16018002]

>>16017929
India's problem is that the ISRO only has a total budget of $1.5B/year. They're easily the smallest of the major space programs and they have to pick their projects with a lot of care and then be willing to spread their funding out over a lot of years.

[Anonymous No.16018019]

OHNONONONONO
hahahahaha Muskcels seeth!
The idol you worship isgoing bankrupt!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTaVdaA9Kjw

[Anonymous No.16018020]

https://twitter.com/Firefly_Space/status/1755696221698543784
>More progress on the MLV front! Our second composite tank barrel is off the automated fiber placement machine and on its way to the oven. These structures further validate our design as we ramp up manufacturing and testing for the first stage of Antares 330 and our Medium Launch Vehicle

Carbon fiber was a mistake

[Anonymous No.16018023]

>>16018020
graphene rockets when

[Anonymous No.16018040]

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/spacex-applies-for-sea-based-satellite-earth-stations/

[Anonymous No.16018043]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thkodx2tVKk

booster 10 being rolled out

[Anonymous No.16018066]

Biden is fucking senile officially
what the fuck are the democrats doing? lmao
now the question stands, who is responsible for going after Musk in the Biden admin? is it that they just generally hate him or was there some specific personalities behind this?

[Anonymous No.16018067]

>>16017863
your wife's boyfriend must be ashamed of you

[Anonymous No.16018070]

>>16018066

[Anonymous No.16018096]

Booster 10 most likely got baffles
https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/1755730288414441711?s=20

[Anonymous No.16018119]

>>16018096
Oof, payload just got 20 tons lesser

[Anonymous No.16018121]

>>16018096
>>16018119
whats the significance of this? slightly less payload for more reliability?
The baffles might help with the flip maneuver.

[Anonymous No.16018124]

>>16018121
It's not like they don't know what faggots are watching through their streaman. Thank you for your data!

[Anonymous No.16018125]

>>16018096
I'm watching the Putin interview (on topic because Elon is watching it)

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1755735631664128494

[Anonymous No.16018127]

>>16018096
baffling decision

[Anonymous No.16018137]

>no staging video
God bless America, those damn chinks would have definitely reverse engineered Starship if they had released it

[Anonymous No.16018160]

>>16018066
They generally hate him for rejecting their narrative and giving the opposition a social media platform.

[Anonymous No.16018182]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Q6fo-OhSI
Starlink going up from Vandenberg in ten minutes

[Anonymous No.16018186]

>>16015063
Unironically should've been this

[Anonymous No.16018187]

>>16018160

[Anonymous No.16018189]

>>16017643
the one that won't kill me

[Anonymous No.16018190]

Looks rainy.

[Anonymous No.16018193]

womp womp

[Anonymous No.16018194]

>>16018190
HLOD

[Anonymous No.16018215]

>>16018193
HOHOLD

[Anonymous No.16018216]

>>16018193
spacex is a joke lol

[Anonymous No.16018225]

>>16018216
its delayed for a day or two. why are you crying?

[Anonymous No.16018228]

scrubX

[Anonymous No.16018264]

>>16018262
>>16018262
>>16018262
its up

[Anonymous No.16018269]

>>16016905
Use this NORAD tracker
https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/graph-orbit-data.php?CATNR=58338
Straight fucking down for this piece of shit lol