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16005287 No.16005287 [Reply] [Original]

>dark matter
just admit you don't understand how gravity works

>dark energy
just admit you don't understand why the universe is expanding

>> No.16005296

>law of gravity
>all mass attracts all mass
>... except when it doesn't (dark matter)
>2nd law of thermodynamics
>entropy of closed system can't decrease
>... except when it does (dark energy)
should just admit our laws are wrong

>> No.16005361

>>16005287
No. We should spend at least a few centuries trying to make it work and building gigantic multi billion dollar machines to detect it. That would be much easier than trying to think of alternatives. We should also shun anyone who proposes alternatives and not take them seriously

>> No.16005369

>>16005287
>just admit you don't understand how gravity work
but dark matter interacts ONLY gravitationally. that's how we even know it's there in the first place thru gravitational lensing. we clearly understand this we just don't understand why it doesn't interact through e&m, strong and weak.

>> No.16005396

>>16005369
such dishonesty. it's more like
>we predict galaxies rotate like this
>they don't
>DARK MATTER EXISTS
just give up kepler's laws instead

>> No.16005397

>>16005287
It's anti-science shit like this that needs to be a felony offense. Lock up denialists and heretics, and throw away the key.

>> No.16005403

>>16005369
>that's how we even know it's there in the first place thru gravitational lensing
Have you actually read those lensing papers? What do you think of them?

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16005645

>>16005396
keplers law stay consistent when you add dark matter to the equation. what you stated plus what i stated is just some of the evidence of dark matter in the universe. you keep complaining about "gravity being wrong", when really the issue with dark matter is not gravity but everything else

>>16005403
i have not but they sound like a fun read

>> No.16005682

>>16005296
Nah, is just aliens in the dark forest turning everything they fear into 2D and therefore perfectly transparent so only its mass can be detected.

>> No.16005730

>>16005369
I think that's what OP is saying though. That dark matter is just being used in addition to gravity as a way to get the correct results when there might just be some misunderstanding about how gravity actually works