/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.16003722]

Cygnus edition
previous >>16001083

[Anonymous No.16003727]

fpbp

[Anonymous No.16003728]

spbp

[Anonymous No.16003741]

Musk Mars malarkey status: cancelled

[Anonymous No.16003744]

>>16003741
Go back to pedaling your bullshit in >>>/pol/, glowie.

[Anonymous No.16003745]

>>16003744
For once, this is actually spaceflight related

[Anonymous No.16003747]

It seems like both Europe and America have been take over by people who actively sabotage their own countries.

[Anonymous No.16003750]

>>16003747
Who said China was too far behind SX to ever catch up?

[Anonymous No.16003764]

>>16003741
>judge appointed by democratic governor
>Biden grew up in Delaware and was a Delaware senator from 73-09
>precedent setting arbitrary decision that overturns a shareholder vote retroactively
makes you think
can't be lawfare, no no

[Anonymous No.16003765]

>>16003745
what happened you news fag

[Anonymous No.16003771]

>>16003747
>Not giving tons of money to billionaires = sabotaging your own country

[Anonymous No.16003775]

Couldn't have said it better grok

[Anonymous No.16003776]

https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/space/spacex-dod-has-requested-taking-over-starship-individual-missions

https://archive.is/0x9zP

>SpaceX: DOD Has Requested Taking Over Starship For Individual Missions

[Anonymous No.16003779]

If you must continue with this off-topic crap about Tesla, please use the old thread, it'll stay around for a few more hours.

[Anonymous No.16003788]

>>16003771
Instead they give tons of money money to hedge funds and crypto scammers.

[Anonymous No.16003792]

>>16003788
If you're talking about FTX, that was actually a big money laundering scheme for the DNC, so there's no real issue with things like that

[Anonymous No.16003793]

>>16003776
The headline is misleading, the DoD is discussing DoD ownership of a Starship.

[Anonymous No.16003797]

IFT-3 when?

[Anonymous No.16003799]

>>16003771
yes in fact
that is how capitalism works, good capital allocators and executors get more money but everyone else also benefits from economic growth
or then you could have retards running things, getting much less money but everyone has much less of everything

[Anonymous No.16003801]

>>16003776
>>16003793
Its just calling for similar contracts with Starlink, for sensitive usage where gov takes full responsibility for the architecture for those missions.

[Anonymous No.16003803]

>>16003741
Elon should have thought twice before he decided to mess with the senator from Delaware

[Anonymous No.16003804]

>>16003776
Are they going to launch Starship full of MIRVs at Moscow or Beijing?

[Anonymous No.16003806]

https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/space/spacex-dod-has-requested-taking-over-starship-individual-missions

ORLANDO, Florida—The Pentagon has approached SpaceX about potentially taking over Starship for sensitive and potentially dangerous missions as a government-owned, government-operated asset instead of contracting the company to launch payloads.

The company has been exploring its options in responding, Gary Henry, a senior adviser with SpaceX, told the audience at the Space Mobility Conference here Jan. 30.

SpaceX is already on contract for development of the Department of the Air Force’s Rocket Cargo mission, with the goal of delivering cargo point to point through space. But this is beyond that plan, Henry says.

“We have had conversations … and it really came down to specific missions, where it’s a very specific and sometimes elevated risk or maybe a dangerous use case for the DOD where they’re asking themselves: Do we need to own it as a particular asset … SpaceX, can you accommodate that?” he says.

“We’ve been exploring all kinds of options to kind of deal with those questions,” he says.

The idea is similar to how the Air Force moves cargo. At times, the service contracts with private carriers to deliver cargo, but for certain critical missions it uses service “gray tail” aircraft. In this hypothetical case, the military could take a Starship off the line for a specific mission and return it to SpaceX after it is complete.

Col. Eric Felt, director of space architecture for the Office of the Secretary of the Air Force for Space Acquisition and Integration, says there are certain concepts of operation that could be relevant for a government-owned, government-operated space vehicle.

“If we can buy the commercial service, that’s what we’re going to do, but there might be some use cases where there needs to be a government-owned, government-operated [vehicle] and that transfer can happen on the fly,” Felt says.

[Anonymous No.16003807]

>>16003799
and it isn't people giving money to them, its these operators gaining capital through the economic system
i.e. building companies that give people a product they want or capital allocators allocating capital towards companies with good business plans and execution so the products and services are built

[Anonymous No.16003808]

>>16003722
>agile development for billion dollar rockets

LMAO

[Anonymous No.16003809]

>>16003803
the state court system in deleware just took $56 billion from musk today

[Anonymous No.16003817]

>>16003776
so they would like to buy Starships like planes are bought today?

[Anonymous No.16003818]

There has been literally zero, count em, ZERO spaceflight discussion in this edition of /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.16003819]

>debunking Moon theories in 2024
Why do people even waste time on that shit?

https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1752090483319263594?s=20

[Anonymous No.16003823]

>>16003818
and that's a good thing!

[Anonymous No.16003826]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1752486201083543842

I wonder if Musk is going to start incorporating companies in Texas or Nevada now

[Anonymous No.16003831]

>>16003817
Nope. Planes today are bought in bulk well in advance. Trillions went into F-35.

[Anonymous No.16003836]

>>16003831
The development cost for the program was $60 billion, and the acquisitions estimates for everybody is something like $400 billion.

[Anonymous No.16003838]

Biden just destroyed Delaware as a location to incorporate
lmaoo

[Anonymous No.16003842]

https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2024/01/29/nasa-kennedy-teams-test-high-speed-cameras-for-artemis-ii-mission/

>Following Artemis I, teams updated the 68 high-speed cameras, which start during the final 12 seconds of the countdown to provide views of the rocket and surrounding ground structures during launch. The imagery also is used in detailed post-launch analysis.
>The updates on the cameras include:
>Software and procedures to ensure proper field of view of the rocket and spacecraft.
>High-speed digital camera firmware and digital recorder software to improve visual video quality.
>Optical control system software to ensure accurate setup.
>Upgraded faceplate purge hardware – a small tool near the camera lens that releases small amounts of gaseous nitrogen to remove any water that falls on the lenses.
>Personnel at Kennedy next will test the dynamic range of the cameras during a nighttime commercial rocket launch from a nearby launch site. Following each operation, teams will analyze the footage to ensure each camera performed as expected.

I hope its Falcon 9 they choose to test capture.

[Anonymous No.16003843]

>>16003842
Too expensive, the budget allows NASA to run this camera only once every 2 years :/

[Anonymous No.16003846]

>>16003843
Great job resident doomer, I too love taking cool things and making up things to get upset about!

[Anonymous No.16003851]

>>16003826
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1752491924848820595

[Anonymous No.16003854]

>>16003806
Interesting. So the Pentagon is at least taking Starship seriously.

[Anonymous No.16003855]

>>16003851
Embarrassing tantrum behavior.

[Anonymous No.16003857]

>>16003855
Nice three word soundbite. I'm sure the guys you copy-pasted it from are proud of it.

[Anonymous No.16003859]

>>16003855
if its impossible to operate the company in delaware because the judges can arbitrarily veto any shareholder votes, they basically have to move away from there

[Anonymous No.16003863]

>>16003851
>>16003826
Musk is experiencing systemic discrimination.

[Anonymous No.16003866]

>>16003859
Not just share holders, but the board, the shareholders, the independent third party consultants to the compensation plan, etc.

All because some random guy with 9 shares of Tesla worth ~$200-300 at the time of the claimed it shouldnt be. Just 1 person out of 80% shareholders.

[Anonymous No.16003869]

>>16003866
yep its insane

[Anonymous No.16003875]

>>16003866
>Not just share holders, but the board, the shareholders, the independent third party consultants to the compensation plan, etc

What a fucking precedent to set jesus. Who on earth would incorporate in that shithole after this?

[Anonymous No.16003879]

>>16003863
He is African, so that should be expected

[Anonymous No.16003884]

>>16003859
>>16003863
>>16003866
>>16003869
>>16003875
The board lied about being independent, thus making the shareholder decision not based on actual fact, thus meaning it was improper. Make another (or even the exact same) compensation plan, put it for vote again with the proper disclosure this time, shareholders will obviously vote for it again, issue solved. Now shut up and post about spaceflight, niggers.

[Anonymous No.16003886]

[Anonymous No.16003888]

>>16003668
Fuck off nigger. You aren't American if you bow down to tyrants.

[Anonymous No.16003889]

>>16003884
that is fucking absurd if the independence is questioned on the basis of people in the board having some kind of positive relationship with each other
this would mean that every board in the US pretty much would not be independent
its absolutely absurd

[Anonymous No.16003890]

https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20240130-VP-MMS01-0001-SpaceX_NG_20_Live_Launch_Coverage_720p-M3761

[Anonymous No.16003891]

[Anonymous No.16003894]

[Anonymous No.16003895]

[Anonymous No.16003898]

[Anonymous No.16003901]

[Anonymous No.16003902]

>>16003884
No the board didn't lie. The judge's opinion is that Elon Musk has large influence over HIS company, therefore everyone under him is not independent. That includes boards whom he has some friends with, boards that dont talk to him but whom they own their career to him (like wtf?), and not just those but also claim third party independent consultants to the deal doesn't count, shareholder votes dont count, etc. Another opinion from the judge is that the board didn't tell shareholders the likelyhood of achieving those goals. lol

How is a board supposed to predict the future of the company that is nearing bankruptcy during that year? Who would have believed that Tesla would grow to 600+ billion worth today? No one. There is no foresight knowledge, there is only guesses, personal drives, hard work, persistence, luck, timing, etc involved.

The judge's opinions are weak at best.

[Anonymous No.16003904]

[Anonymous No.16003910]

>>16003851
>Loses court case, despite having the most expensive lawyers money can buy
>Put out an online poll to your loyal dick sucks to feel better about it
This is seriously pathetic.

[Anonymous No.16003912]

[Anonymous No.16003915]

thats FIFTY FIVE BILLION that could've gone to mars colony. yes im fucking mad.

[Anonymous No.16003918]

>>16003776
X-37b's replacement

[Anonymous No.16003921]

>>16003918
Not quite. Its more closer to DoD wanting to nationalize a project without compensating properly, investing, or funding anything.

[Anonymous No.16003924]

>>16003915
Don't worry about the money, he's gonna get that back easy unless he's a fucking retard and doesn't let a modified compensation plan be put for vote

[Anonymous No.16003926]

>>16003918
One plane for another

[Anonymous No.16003927]

>>16003910
if the judge is biased towards you it doesn't matter what kind of lawyers you have
and moving in this case is not about feeling better, its about the ability to operate the fucking company without interference

[Anonymous No.16003928]

>>16003915
55 billion at the current market cap, probably somewhere around 10x that when the Mars colony starts to need a lot of capital (yes I think Tesla will 10x in 10-20 years)

[Anonymous No.16003929]

>>16003927
Yep. You can even lose a case if you're the president of the US like Trump is when that judge dragged him to court.

The matter of judge is that of an opinion. The opinion Judge laid out in the paper is as frivolous as it can be.

[Anonymous No.16003931]

>>16003927
Then he can appeal it to the supreme court. I don't see why he's got his panties in a twist.

[Anonymous No.16003933]

>>16003927
The twitter poll is about feeling better. He doesn't need a twitter poll to move the company.

[Anonymous No.16003938]

>>16003931
not in this case, only to the supreme court of Delaware
and in fact this wasn't really a decision by the judge yet, it was an opinion with the option for the two parties in the lawsuit to come to some agreement, but obviously that isn't going to happen
the judge has to still write the actual decision, then that can be appealed to the Delaware supreme court
but seeing the shit that is happening I wouldn't really put too much faith into that court actually being unbiased
the shareholders should be able to approve of a new package and whatever after moving into Texas though, so even if this isn't appealed and it is actually voided fully, its not completely over
I'm pretty sure shareholders are overwhelmingly behind Musk here, the people who don't like him etc have mostly sold off although there are some exceptions

[Anonymous No.16003939]

>>16003933
its about confirming the general vibes about the judge fucking up so I guess you are right that the poll itself might be about that partly
but moving is not

[Anonymous No.16003940]

>>16003938
>obviously that isn't going to happen
Why not? I could totally see them giving the guy like 20K (his """share""" of musk's compensation package) and telling him to fuck off

[Anonymous No.16003943]

so what kind of "dangerous" space missions would the military need a starship for?

[Anonymous No.16003944]

Holy shiet ksp 2 tutorials are so good
After 5 years playing ksp 1 i might learn to rendezvous and dock
GOD BLESS

[Anonymous No.16003945]

>>16003939
>its about confirming the general vibes
The highest, most important evidence in the court of law.... twitter vibes...

[Anonymous No.16003946]

Seems like the judge hates Musk and his money and uses Musk's money as a means to argue that Musk has too much money and therefore shouldnt get the benefit of fair trial.

[Anonymous No.16003947]

>>16003940
maybe, but wouldn't that just open it up to new lawsuits? random other people wanting their 20k and lawyers getting paid even more

[Anonymous No.16003951]

>>16003945
not about the court of law you fucking retard, but the opinion of the shareholders who voted for this compensation package in the first place
musk haters that are non-shareholders are irrelevant

[Anonymous No.16003954]

https://images.nasa.gov/details/SSC_2024-01-27_RS-25_Engine_Test

>NASA completed the sixth of 12 scheduled RS-25 engine certification tests in a critical series for future flights of the agency’s SLS (Space Launch System) rocket as engineers conducted a full-duration hot fire Jan. 27 at NASA’s Stennis Space Center near Bay St. Louis, Mississippi. The current series builds on previous hot fire testing conducted at NASA Stennis to help certify production of new RS-25 engines by lead contractor Aerojet Rocketdyne, an L3 Harris Technologies company. The new engines will help power NASA’s SLS rocket on future Artemis missions to the Moon and beyond, beginning with Artemis V. Operators fired the RS-25 engine on the Fred Haise Test Stand for almost eight-and-a-half minutes (500 seconds) – the same amount of time needed to help launch SLS – and at power levels ranging between 80% to 113%. The current series is the second and final series to certify production of the engines, which include several upgraded components. NASA completed an initial 12-test certification series with the new components in June 2023. Four RS-25 engines fire simultaneously to help launch each SLS rocket, producing up to 2 million pounds of combined thrust.

[Anonymous No.16003953]

>>16003943
bombing runs?
weaponizing the starship somehow and wanting to keep this completely under wraps so not even spacex knows

[Anonymous No.16003955]

>>16003951
The guy who brought the lawsuit owned ~$300 worth of shares. 9 shares. And he was able to revert a super majority vote from 80% of the shareholders.

I'd bet that there are plenty of activist shareholders who want to use this as a means to over ride any of the shareholder decisions.

[Anonymous No.16003956]

>>16003946
yeah even bringing up the fact of his wealth or the absolute amount of the package is very questionable
that is irrelevant

[Anonymous No.16003957]

>>16003951
He was getting sharholder opinions.... from a random twitter poll?

[Anonymous No.16003958]

>>16003955
yes, in other companies as well
the delaware chancery shows itself to be a kangaroo court

[Anonymous No.16003966]

So /sfg/ when do we start rounding up judges (in minecraft)?

[Anonymous No.16003967]

>>16003957
not really that random, a lot of his followers that are very active are tesla shareholders
most other people don't really give a shit about this one way or another, other than perhaps very bad EDS sufferers

[Anonymous No.16003969]

>>16003797
*OFT-3 you dumb tranny

[Anonymous No.16003980]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1752517922411716817

[Anonymous No.16003983]

>>16003944
line up pe and ap at same height if ahead raise ap if behind lower pe

[Anonymous No.16003985]

>>16003980
should have sucked joe biden's cock dry you moron. stop being a tough guy and get on your knees

[Anonymous No.16003986]

>>16003980
yeah this doesn't help his case at all

[Anonymous No.16003990]

>>16003902
It's just lawfare, same as what they're doing to Trump. I am not kidding when I say Elon should load up Starships with hundreds of tons of explosives (maybe tanker starships with intentionally fragile methalox tanks) and drop them on the homes of judges and bureaucrats and lawyers until this coonery stops.

[Anonymous No.16003993]

>>16003986
help? its irrelevant to the case

[Anonymous No.16003995]

>>16003990
Yes, mass murder will surely help his case that he is innocent.

[Anonymous No.16003997]

>>16003995
Help his case?

[Anonymous No.16003999]

>>16003995
They're putting the future of Western civilization at risk and removing the possibility of a second inhabited planet, the response is proportional.

[Anonymous No.16004002]

>>16003995
it is time to unleash the optimus army

[Anonymous No.16004006]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n7eNFj_9Vk

[Anonymous No.16004012]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1752516361799258318

[Anonymous No.16004013]

>>16004002
These AI images of "my guy" being cool are so lame, when it's biden and when it's elon.

[Anonymous No.16004017]

>>16004013
Elon and Trump were getting shopped into forty kay ages before AI existed.

[Anonymous No.16004018]

>>16004013
biden can barely talk, he is lame by default and actively obstructing making life multiplanetary

[Anonymous No.16004023]

>>16004017
That doesn't make it better. It's still massively cringe. Celebrity worship is low IQ behavior.

[Anonymous No.16004029]

>>16004023
What, as opposed to gay fat tranny nigger communism? People will always meme about other people.

[Anonymous No.16004034]

Give it to me straight is spaceflight easy and we complicate it or Is it just hard as shit

[Anonymous No.16004036]

DOD is salivating over Starship and thats a good thing, no fucking interference !

[Anonymous No.16004037]

>>16004034
no, how hard could it be if musk is able to do it?

[Anonymous No.16004040]

>>16004036
the DOD should give musk the license to kill

[Anonymous No.16004041]

Can anyone help unlock this article? looks interesting.
https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/space/us-space-force-progressing-rocket-cargo-plan

[Anonymous No.16004042]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_to_kill_(concept)
> In literary portrayals, the licence is presumed to be a discretionary one, distributed rarely and requiring extensive training to obtain, granted only to a handful of covert agents of a state in the interest of national security. The agent is not necessarily expected to kill enemies as part of a mission, but may receive legal immunity from prosecution (in their own country) if in the agent's opinion, it became necessary to complete it.

[Anonymous No.16004043]

>>16004034
It's fairly easy but the government prefers to make things harder in order to suppress competition.

[Anonymous No.16004047]

>>16004041
just use archive.is next time, put the link in the upload section and usually somebody has already done that previously so you don't need to wait (like now somebody did 1h ago)

https://archive.is/S0HEu

[Anonymous No.16004050]

Aight we waited long enough, when this mfer gonna show up

[Anonymous No.16004054]

>>16004034
Little bit of column A; little bit of column B

[Anonymous No.16004066]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1752532343993323742
Well Starlink is never going public, I'm pretty sure of that now

[Anonymous No.16004070]

somebody posted this, what does it imply?

[Anonymous No.16004073]

>>16004034
Spaceflight is like software, it lives and dies by iteration speed and engineers being unblocked. Companies fail because they put too much paperwork and management in the pipeline of technical decisions. This is impossible for government agencies and public companies to avoid in current lawfare environments and so SpaceX will keep whipping everyone's ass until another privately held company reaches orbit.

[Anonymous No.16004135]

>>16004066
>>16004066
That also means SpaceX is never going public. Good. Hoping that Elon cuts his losses with Tesla and fully focuses on SpaceX, doesnt make the mistake of giving away his 51% ownership.

[Anonymous No.16004141]

>>16004135
A lot of the stuff being developed at Tesla would help the Mars colony as well, like humanoid robots

[Anonymous No.16004153]

>>16004066
https://twitter.com/ICannot_Enough/status/1752503331774173243

[Anonymous No.16004163]

>>16004070
it shows that antialiasing hadn't been invented before the 1770s

[Anonymous No.16004164]

>>16004153

So is star ship not going to get funded? Since this is about spaceflight and all.

[Anonymous No.16004166]

>>16003797
>>16003797
its actually tertiary flight test 1

[Anonymous No.16004172]

>>16004164
long live the queen, USA is now a colony of the United Kingdom once more

[Anonymous No.16004190]

>>16003722
>>16003741
>>16003933
>>16003944
>>16003993
When are we leaving this planet bros? Im tired of delays and im getting older... They promise us to be on mars at this point... Whats taking so long

[Anonymous No.16004196]

>>16004190
2 weeks*, when the QI drive is switched on and humanity's destiny changes forever

>*might be more than 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.16004207]

>>16004029
>>16004023

[Anonymous No.16004208]

Oh yeah! Starship is a space plane to me

[Anonymous No.16004209]

[Anonymous No.16004213]

[Anonymous No.16004230]

Rocket Lab "Four Of A Kind" Launch Live!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDyxRPGWhRo

[Anonymous No.16004238]

>>16003776
Good, then NASA's turn next

>you know you want to

[Anonymous No.16004266]

>>16004002
elon is so based it's unreal

[Anonymous No.16004269]

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1752470387076554861

[Anonymous No.16004270]

>>16003851
Impressive composure and self-control

[Anonymous No.16004272]

>>16004269
https://www.pcmag.com/news/starlinks-laser-system-is-beaming-42-million-gb-of-data-per-day

[Anonymous No.16004275]

>>16004230

[Anonymous No.16004277]

>>16004230
>when you launch so infrequently that every launch is a super special event with a special name and artwork

[Anonymous No.16004278]

everyday astro just btfo'd ssto chuds

[Anonymous No.16004279]

>>16004275
t-15min

[Anonymous No.16004283]

>>16004277
'LAB IS GO FOR THE LAUNCH

[Anonymous No.16004291]

https://twitter.com/TurkeyBeaver/status/1752406223813746860
> Our first 10 launch month! Congrats to the Cygnus and SpaceX teams!

[Anonymous No.16004297]

>>16004283
T-1m

[Anonymous No.16004299]

>>16004291
oof... spacex is off track for 150 launches this year...

[Anonymous No.16004301]

they will attempt to recover the first stage

[Anonymous No.16004303]

they will dump the first stage into the ocean and save 100,000 dollaps, impressive work china

[Anonymous No.16004306]

>>16004299
Only 120 launches this year. FRAUD Elon EXPOSED

[Anonymous No.16004309]

was stuff just falling off

[Anonymous No.16004310]

>>16004309
yes

[Anonymous No.16004311]

>>16004309
it was ice chud

[Anonymous No.16004313]

>>16004309
pieces of the rocket, made in china what can you expect

[Anonymous No.16004314]

>>16004309
It's likely they failed the mission

[Anonymous No.16004319]

So Rocket Lab 1 > Falcon 1 now?

[Anonymous No.16004321]

[Anonymous No.16004322]

>>16004319
its electron fake space fan

[Anonymous No.16004323]

>>16004321
most normal super-heavy rocket design in Ohio

[Anonymous No.16004325]

>>16004319
has been for quite a while
but Falcon 1 did what it needed to do: practice and prototyping for the larger Falcon rockets. Electron is a dead end in that regard.

[Anonymous No.16004326]

>>16004322
bottom line: I was right

[Anonymous No.16004328]

Thank you musical wolves

[Anonymous No.16004341]

>>16004270
https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/space/us-space-force-progressing-rocket-cargo-plan
>The U.S. Space Force is deep in planning for Rocket Cargo operations, with companies on contract now to build specialized cargo containers as the service looks to first integrate with SpaceX’s Starship ahead of additional providers.

[Anonymous No.16004342]

>>16004277
Imagine if each Starlink launche had a patch

[Anonymous No.16004343]

>>16004342
they would, but elon fired the patch designer

[Anonymous No.16004345]

>>16004341
Thunderfuck said this is NOT possible, it just cant happen. DEBUNKED DEBUNKED AAAAAAAAAA FUCK MUSK FUCK MUSK I HATE HIM AAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.16004361]

>>16003943
realistically will do
>deploying loads of spy/telecom satellites
>propellant tanker/depot to refuel said satellites (so they could maneuver much more wastefully)
>technology testing and return (ie what X-37B was designed for)

hypothetically could do
>boosting, refurbishing or abducing satellites (ie what Shuttle was designed for)
>Rapid Dragon swarm platform
>ASAT platform
>kinetic bombardment platform
>building and resupplying civilian and military outposts in space (Amundsen–Scott was built by Navy Seabees)

[Anonymous No.16004366]

random thing that just came up in a spaces talking about incorporating companies (with respect to Musks compensation package)
Mars might become the epicenter of new innovation and companies because there will be so much less regulation
after independence, you are going to start with a clean slate with no bullshit regulation that was written 300 years ago or accumulated during the existence of the republic (or whatever form the independent mars becomes)
not sure how long its going to take to get independence
some autonomy should happen pretty soon but it will be under USA federal regulation I guess? if its started by Musk and SpaceX and it comes from USA at first, they will want to keep control for as long as possible

[Anonymous No.16004367]

>>16004343
They will just have the AI do it

[Anonymous No.16004390]

>>16004269
>over 9000 lasers
he lurks

[Anonymous No.16004417]

>>16004272
gen4 of laserlinks already lol

[Anonymous No.16004534]

>>16004266
Based on what

[Anonymous No.16004545]

/sfg/ is dead

[Anonymous No.16004551]

>>16004164
>>16004153
Oh nooo, the government caught on to Elon's scam and are preventing him from walking away with other people's moneyyy T^T

[Anonymous No.16004561]

>>16003836
I think the total life cycle program cost estimate is $1.7T (in 2012 dollars). Of course, much of that money hasn't been spent yet

[Anonymous No.16004573]

>>16003928
>Tesla will 10x in 10-20 years
It likely won't. EV market growth is about to slow and stall in many markets in the not too distant future, not least because of electric grid limitations. EV competition is about to get extremely brutal, especially the competition from Chinese EV companies like BYD. There will likely be a global EV subsidy war, which non-Chinese manufacturers are likely to lose because their governments can't into serious industrial policy, just like they lost the photovoltaics and battery component and rare earth wars and are on track to lose the war over >14nm semiconductors in a decade. An escalated US-China trade war or other geopolitical tensions could also upend battery supply chains for non-Chinese EV manufacturers, because China now has 90% market share of many critical battery upstream components. At least Tesla has their Shanghai factory though.

[Anonymous No.16004581]

>>16004190
Americans should rejoice that they live in such a great and just nation, where the rule of law is so strong that it holds back space colonization with greater force than gravity itself

[Anonymous No.16004588]

Update on the investigation into the aborted Ariane 6 upper stage test: "Technical investigations are still ongoing concerning the test abort that occurred after two minutes of the upper stage hot-fire test on the Vinci engine (HFT-4) that was performed on 7 December 2023. Based on the results of the analysis performed, we can confirm that the launch period for the Ariane 6 inaugural flight is unchanged."

[Anonymous No.16004591]

>>16004573
not so fast

[Anonymous No.16004597]

>>16004591
He just took 50 bil away from Elon and gave it to Tesla, ultimate good guy Biden move

[Anonymous No.16004611]

Had Ares 1 chance to succeed or concept itself was doomed to fail?

[Anonymous No.16004616]

GET THE FUCK IN HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEPRgEi1cgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEPRgEi1cgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEPRgEi1cgM

[Anonymous No.16004620]

>>16004611
It's a Congress designed rocket.
The level of corruption during Constellation reached epic proportions.
Many of the saner engineers at the time were calling for ORSC SLS (boosters powered by six AR1)

[Anonymous No.16004632]

>>16004034
you can trade weight for complexity in certain situations and thus people get trained to maximize complexity

[Anonymous No.16004634]

>>16004343
Best patch designer no patch designer

[Anonymous No.16004638]

>>16004034
It's actually easy as shit however it's not about creating the perfect rocket or spacecraft, it's about funnelling as much money to your friends the contractors

[Anonymous No.16004650]

>>16003995
There's a point where a man is pushed to do things, not because he wants to, but because he should

[Anonymous No.16004652]

Where is spaceguy5 today?

[Anonymous No.16004654]

>>16004573
Teslabot will 10x their stock minimum if they can make it not a piece of shit and actually useful for various tasks. Although I guess it will probably have knockoffs out of china coming fairly soon after too.

[Anonymous No.16004661]

>>16004652
temporarily disabled.

[Anonymous No.16004674]

>>16004661
i like this guy

[Anonymous No.16004678]

>>16004654
I don't understand the business case of the Tesla bot. What is the advantage compared to regular industrial robots and robot control systems, that would justify a 10x increase in Tesla's valuation?

[Anonymous No.16004681]

>>16004345
Elon Musk is going to prison. Cope, spaceoids.

[Anonymous No.16004682]

>>16004654
LMAOOOOO I swear I hear a new fucking scam from this guy every day now

[Anonymous No.16004686]

>>16004678
I guess it could be more universal, but I don't see it actually replacing humans anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.16004688]

>>16004686
At this point it's just anything goes sci fi speculation so whatever your heart desires can happen

[Anonymous No.16004690]

>>16004661
No one killed Starship's use case quite so eloquently and succinctly as this

[Anonymous No.16004696]

>>16004686
Why not just use one of the hundreds of different industrial robot designs that already exist today? If you want mobility, why not just a robot on a cart or rail? Etc. Tesla bot seems like a narrow niche product that is superior only for some very specific applications, not a universal wide-demand product like EVs are.

If the idea is to create a robot that can be installed in a cheap and simple "just plop down where a human used to be" manner that requires no modifications to your facility, then it will require some really amazing AI.

[Anonymous No.16004699]

>>16004690
>Really clear that they really just want it for launching BRILLIANT PEBBLES in huge numbers
fixed

[Anonymous No.16004700]

i changed the schedule, the invincible dies too -

[Anonymous No.16004704]

>>16004699
and Raptor as well
Even the anti-Musk folks don't deny that DARPA/mil had a hand in developing that bad boy and there's probably a prototype craft at Groom Lake that uses it for... other purposes
(no i am not on meds)

[Anonymous No.16004708]

>>16004681
it's true, saw it all over reddit. if you thought musk had a bad week this week, just wait. next will be 1000X worse

[Anonymous No.16004709]

>>16004321
This is interesting in that there appears to be no structure to support thrust loads from the side boosters. This made me think of the very Kerbal idea of the side boosters flying alongside the main, and using the one connection to crossfeed fuel and oxidizer. Just the thought of the control needed to fly the boosters together with such minimal structural connections is comical.

[Anonymous No.16004712]

>>16004704
You could probably include the Skylon in that. For years they were talking about making a space plane, then they finally demonstrate the sabre pre-cooler and it's total radio silence.
100% guarantee that it's being included in Darkstar or whatever it's going to be called in the end

[Anonymous No.16004714]

>>16004696
Visual training data of human done tasks

[Anonymous No.16004725]

>>16004714
So the "big thing" with the Tesla bot is more to do with the control system than the robot hardware itself?

Still, for it to cause a 10x to the valuation, then it would require that they are far ahead of competitors

[Anonymous No.16004728]

>>16003741
Worse than Dubya, fuck this kiddiddler

[Anonymous No.16004733]

>>16004573
>BYD
>The cars not even the chinese want to buy so they have to be shoveled to Europe.

[Anonymous No.16004736]

>Starship will fundamentally change how we access space, with entire space stations like Starlab launched on a single mission
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1752700978686742984
There is no market for Star...ACK

[Anonymous No.16004739]

>>16004736
Starlabs on Starship neat.

>>16004725
Its both. The "big thing" hardware wise is Tesla's manufacturing/mass production path. The "big thing" software side is they can already and effectively navigate the world with their FSD vision system. Now the next "big thing" is to teach the bot how to control itself by learning from humans, and then learning from itself via their supercomputer training simulations system (same network that their self driving cars system use). Currently the limitation is training hardware, so both car self driving (navigating) and robotic (handy skills) will be competing in resources. They'll building the training hardware necessary and expanding as they go along, so that might not be too much of a bottleneck for long

[Anonymous No.16004740]

>>16004733
BYD overtook Tesla in number of sold BEV units in 2023Q4, the vast majority of them in China.

I think the reason Chinese car manufacturers are going abroad isn't because Chinese consumers hate Chinese cars. It's because Chinese car manufacturers can build more cars than there is demand for in China. The Chinese car market is reaching saturation levels, almost all of China's potential first-time car customers have bought cars now, and so now there is mostly just demand for replacements. Also, in the case of EVs, charging infrastructure and electric grid expansion is a constraint for EV adoption growth rate.

[Anonymous No.16004741]

Someone give me a tanker count?
I'm hearing 10 now.

[Anonymous No.16004743]

>>16003985
Well he did it for trump... he can do it for a deleware judge too.

[Anonymous No.16004744]

>>16004741
69, obviously

[Anonymous No.16004745]

>>16004741
1) Just needs to refuel once in orbit with the orbital depot when the HLS gets launched.
2) orbital depot will likely be a permanent presence in orbit and will be kept topped off through the year

[Anonymous No.16004747]

>>16004741
They should start counting when starship actually gets to orbit

[Anonymous No.16004748]

>>16004728
Elon had a super bad feeling about the economy in June and already Q3 2022 was positive. Embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.16004750]

>>16004725
>that they are far ahead of competitors
Another company was able to train a robot vision model so make coffee from minimal data. Lots of research in this area too. Tesla's advantage is scale and willingness to commit I'd say. Anyway easier to replace human done tasks with a human style robot given the ease of collecting data for it. Besides just visual you could hook up motion sensors and stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.16004755]

>>16004743
Americans unironically consider 'subsidy' to be a dirty word and an insult. No wonder the Chinese keep beating them on industrial policy. China will beat them in aerospace too, sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.16004757]

>>16004743
Based, Elon knows a good executive when he sees one

[Anonymous No.16004758]

>>16004755
>subsidy
Tesla did get a lot of those though back in the Barry days

[Anonymous No.16004762]

>>16004745
Basically this. It's also why BO always mention "3 launches" for their HLS architecture. 1 launch SLS, 1 launch HLS, 1 launch depot (filling the depot they dont count). But it counts for SpaceX and propaganda purposes

[Anonymous No.16004763]

>>16004690
spaceguy5 is still in denial about refueling

[Anonymous No.16004765]

low/high energy is just oldspace cope

[Anonymous No.16004767]

>>16004763
To be fair its one of those things that if you don't have a live demonstration of it (think F9 landing) it's 'hard to believe'
The best way to shut these people up is to deliver the product in the next few years

[Anonymous No.16004769]

>>16004736
>Starlab on Starship
Uhhh... SpaceX still haven't figured out how to make payload doors.

[Anonymous No.16004772]

>>16004758
Yes, and SpaceX could succeed because of well-designed federal procurement, support from the state in terms of space infrastructure access, and the existing pool of skilled labor and expertise that had largely been created thanks to previous government action

Elon Musk's main companies succeeded because of US industrial policy, and Americans hold it against him. Instead, they should applaud him for rising to the occasion to implement the US government's industrial goals, and making use of the state's provided resources arguably better than anyone else did at the time. Yet apparently many Americans think that the only "good" entrepreneur is one who operates solely in free markets, and who relies entirely on private resources or pulls himself up by the bootstraps

[Anonymous No.16004776]

>>16004765
It's mostly about staging timing 2bdesu. F9 stages early for booster recovery but that also means the upper stage doesn't have a lot of spare performance for direct circular insertion to higher Earth orbits. When it comes to LEO or LEO plus one transfer burn (GTO, TLI, Earth escape), F9 is fine.

[Anonymous No.16004778]

>>16004772
Dont chatgpt reply to me ever again

[Anonymous No.16004780]

>>16004769
No problem
Just keep the Starship in orbit and Starlab inside the payload bay

[Anonymous No.16004782]

>>16004769
They actually did, they put a door on an F9 fairing for Cygnus cargo loading post mating.

[Anonymous No.16004783]

>>16004776
or really long burns to well beyond earth escape, F9 doesn't do so hot on those either
but who the fuck is going direct to Jupiter aside from Paptimus Scirocco wannabes I guess

[Anonymous No.16004784]

>>16004034
easy but complicated and expensive

[Anonymous No.16004785]

>>16004778
ChatGPT writes the way it does because it is trained on and tries to emulate what real people write, which includes more than just the usual Twitter and 4chan oneliners, even if that is the only type of text that you yourself can ever be bothered to read

[Anonymous No.16004788]

>>16004783
Starship refueling ladder going from LEO to EML2 and then launching from EML2 to Jupiter or Saturn as an expendable kickstage would be the ultimate chemical rocket system for probe delivery. After that it's time to go NEP (and QI if it works).

[Anonymous No.16004819]

>>16004708
You understand reddit is dead, right? It used to be midwit capitol of the internet, but now nobody can post there because either your comments don't show up or mods instaban you on the first post. It's a ghost town to what it once was.

[Anonymous No.16004823]

>>16004819
>It's a ghost town
Not at all. It's overflowing with bots, shills, and 2 minutes of hate participants

[Anonymous No.16004832]

>>16004823
Ghosts basically

[Anonymous No.16004833]

>>16004823
...that is what an Internet ghost town looks like

[Anonymous No.16004843]

>>16004740
BYD overtook Tesla if you include gasoline engined vehicles with their EV sales.

[Anonymous No.16004848]

>>16004765
Falcon Heavy is just a high energy Falcon 9, it cannot lift more mass to LEO

[Anonymous No.16004851]

>>16004740
>>16004843
The german media narrative is that Tesla is finished because BYD lol. They're trying to fool people into thinking Tesla is competing against BYD and BYD is somehow there to kill Tesla. The reality is German car companies are facing death in China. Both Tesla and BYD are there to replace both the legacy gas cars and european companies in China. On top of that, Tesla is eating European cars in Europe and others in US.

[Anonymous No.16004858]

Will the nordics strike when chinese EVs flood into the market? Guess if no one is working on them then nothing to strike about lol

[Anonymous No.16004859]

https://twitter.com/esherifftv/status/1752726023437791513

Scott Manley interview.

[Anonymous No.16004865]

Is Rocket Lab a meme?
Why and why not?

[Anonymous No.16004873]

>>16003928
>>16003938
>>16003939
>>16003946
>>16003955
>>16003956
>>16003957
>>16003958
>>16003993
>>16003997
>>16004023
>>16004573
>>16004654
>>16004678
>>16004696
>>16004725
>>16004733
>>16004740
>>16004750
>>16004758
>>16004843
>>16004843
>>16004851
>>16004858
Stay on topic retards, take your/biz-pol/ posting elsewhere

[Anonymous No.16004876]

https://voyagerspace.com/2024/01/31/starlab-space-selects-spacexs-starship-for-historic-launch/
>Starlab Space LLC (Starlab Space), the transatlantic joint venture between Voyager Space and Airbus, today announced the selection of SpaceX to launch the Starlab commercial space station to low-Earth orbit (LEO). Starship, SpaceX’s fully reusable transportation system designed to carry both crew and cargo to Earth orbit, the Moon, Mars and beyond, will launch Starlab in a single mission prior to the decommissioning of the International Space Station.

[Anonymous No.16004877]

>>16004873
I don't even like cars

[Anonymous No.16004879]

>>16004873
Dumb retarded nigger. That money is for Mars.

[Anonymous No.16004881]

>>16004876
>prior to the decommissioning of the International Space Station
please no

[Anonymous No.16004882]

[Anonymous No.16004883]

>>16004876
>2024
>The two dedicated Starship cargo payloads (Starlab and Superbird-9) are two Airbus-made payloads
kek

[Anonymous No.16004884]

whos the better singer out of these two? https://twitter.com/robert_zubrin/status/1752493609192960256

[Anonymous No.16004885]

>>16004881
It belongs as a MUSEUM

[Anonymous No.16004887]

>>16004885
It belongs in LEO

[Anonymous No.16004894]

>>16003722
Are there any engineers on the internet who talk about what mars colonization, logistics and astroengineering looks like, or is it all really vague, retarded futurist fantasies?

[Anonymous No.16004897]

>already february
>No IFT-3 news

Spx bros... Whats taking so long...

[Anonymous No.16004899]

>>16004897
its obvious that cadence will be 9 months between launches. thats why everyone not a deluded muskrat thinks hls will not happen until 2030. think about it, if they launched every 3 weeks like they promiesed then how would the timeline target 2027 optimistically and not this or next year?

[Anonymous No.16004901]

>>16004897
You don't understand.... biden.... deleware...wokiesm.... demonrats... musk's billions.... he needs him billions first! Until Elon has his billions and billions of dollars no starship shall launch! So say we, the muskrats!

[Anonymous No.16004903]

>>16004899
They're already licensed by the FAA rnt they

[Anonymous No.16004905]

>>16004876
>>16004736
lol, lmao even at the cope

[Anonymous No.16004923]

>>16004897
today is january

[Anonymous No.16004931]

>>16004765
cope

[Anonymous No.16004941]

Execute Musk for treason
Nationalize SpaceX
Colonize the solar system
Destroy Russia and China from orbit

[Anonymous No.16004946]

>>16004905
Go back to discord dramafag

[Anonymous No.16004948]

>16004941
Horrible bait, cutting off your (You) supply.

[Anonymous No.16004955]

>>16004941
This! A billion%percent THIS!

[Anonymous No.16004956]

>>16004741
32 at this point, but it can probably be reduced to twenty-seven with stretched tanks

[Anonymous No.16004958]

>>16004941

[Anonymous No.16004959]

>>16004931
Hey look Tory is comparing Vulcan to a made up rocket this time instead of sandbagging Falcon Heavy's performance.

[Anonymous No.16004961]

>>16004931
$/kg to orbit optimized
vs
???? optimized

[Anonymous No.16004962]

>>16004882
Nice

[Anonymous No.16004964]

>>16004931
>deepspace radiation hardened
lol

[Anonymous No.16004965]

>>16004941
Execute yourself for throwing around spurious treason charges and being a filthy fucking communist who can't even be consistent about it.

[Anonymous No.16004970]

>>16004965
>newfag feeding a (You) to obvious bait
every time

[Anonymous No.16004978]

New Glenn's first launch must happen during this next Mars window, between Oct-Nov 2024.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EscaPADE

I don't think they're gonna make it on time.

The only other spacecraft going to Mars during this window is from India. Awful state of things.

[Anonymous No.16004980]

>>16004978
New Glenn is such an oversized rocket for ESCAPADE that it can do a direct to Mars injection, the launch window really only applied when it was a rideshare.

[Anonymous No.16004982]

Let's say I want to develop reusable ~3 meganewton class engines that burn RP1 and LOX.

What engine cycle would be best? Should I go gas generator or oxidizer rich staged?

[Anonymous No.16004983]

>>16004905
goofy ahhh sussy baka username

[Anonymous No.16004986]

>>16004982
gas generator is easier to develop but less efficient than the oxidizer staged engine.
depends on your budget

[Anonymous No.16004990]

>>16003804
that would be way too based for modern dod

[Anonymous No.16004992]

>>16003826
>>16003851
its only because he is south african

[Anonymous No.16005000]

>>16004982
A kerolox gas gen design would just big a big Merlin. SpaceX did think about a Merlin 2 that was in that same neighborhood, so it's not a completely terrible idea. Merlin 1 doesn't seem to have any issues being heavily reused despite an inefficient power cycle and using sooty fuel. That said, SpaceX did ditch the Merlin 2 for Raptor, so there's also probably an even better argument for using staged combustion. I remember Stoke saying that complex power cycles weren't that big an issue back when the announced that they were going for full flow staged combustion on Nova's booster.

I think a lot of the hesitancy around staged combustion is just leftover oldspace lore from the 1980s. Before the end of the cold war everyone was saying that ORSC engines were impossible to actually build, which was why everyone obviously should use fuel rich hydrogen like the shuttle. Then after the wall came down and everyone found out that the Soviets had been flying staged combustion kerosene engines for over a decade the narrative changed to "It's so super complex that only someone like Aerojet could ever do it, and they say it's too hard to be practical (without lots of government funding)."

Gas gen would be simpler and cheaper and wouldn't have any issues getting the job done, but staged combustion would give you a more competitive vehicle and wouldn't be an impossible goal for a reasonably funded and well-manged group.

[Anonymous No.16005003]

>>16004986
>>16005000

Specifically I was imagining a tripropellant SSTO that uses Venture Star style linear aerospikes as its primary engines that are assisted by the RP1 engines that shut off about halfway to orbit.

The orbiter would also have pop-out attach points for generic turbofan engines so it could fly itself from one site to another (it would be too big to fit on the Shuttle carrier 747), drawing from the same RP1 tanks that it uses for orbital launches.

[Anonymous No.16005016]

>>16005003
If you're thinking about an SSTO you're going to need anything other than gas gen. Anything that gets you more efficiency just went from something desirable to an absolute necessity.

[Anonymous No.16005028]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjSkyZTYLtc
> Launch Mount Tested as Ship 28 Gets Ready to Roll | SpaceX Boca Chica

[Anonymous No.16005042]

>>16005028
We aren't lauching in February...

[Anonymous No.16005045]

>>16004887
Yes, an orbital museum

[Anonymous No.16005062]

https://youtu.be/_eTmJUBcPZM

[Anonymous No.16005065]

>>16005042
February 29 would be a kino launch date

[Anonymous No.16005087]

>>16004982
Is there any point to using kerolox in 2050+4, when methalox exists?

[Anonymous No.16005114]

>>16004712
Lmao
I remember reading about Skylon in like 2012 and seeing a small model of it in an air show in 2014
I really thought this thing was cancelled or something, it always happens like this you know ?

[Anonymous No.16005145]

>>16005114
Skylon has been going since the early 90's. The fact that it's british is the first sign that it's a total smokescreen scam. we never do space stuff.

[Anonymous No.16005157]

[Anonymous No.16005162]

>>16005157
Nobody cares

[Anonymous No.16005163]

>>16005157
Tory is so based and handsome. Good role model

[Anonymous No.16005167]

>>16005003

Wasn't Venture Star going to have an innovative metallic TPS that would have eliminated the possibility of a Colombia type disaster?

Information on this is hard to find.

[Anonymous No.16005170]

>>16005087

The RP1 tanks could be filled with jet fuel that would be used in the strap-on turbofans so the orbiter could fly itself around.

[Anonymous No.16005173]

>>16005157
have to make straman rockets to make his piece of shit look usable kek

[Anonymous No.16005179]

Brainlet braincel question
If i have a fast enough vehicle, can i just go point a to point b like a boat or plane here on earth? I mean no orbits, escapes, manuvers
If its possible how fast would the spacecraft have to be?
Even if you can do it would it still be better to those things anyways?

[Anonymous No.16005181]

>>16005157
He's forgetting the most important part
Centaur V is going to be absolutely nuts

[Anonymous No.16005200]

>>16005179
You still have to account for the thing you're going to moving but sure, turn on cheats in KSP and you can just point at the moon and go. Some youtubers have made the run in under a minute.

[Anonymous No.16005205]

>>16005179
Yes

[Anonymous No.16005207]

>>16005181
That's an endurance that goes from something measured in hours to something measured in months. That's useful if you want to pitch Centaur V out onto a heliocentric orbit and then have it perform a deep space maneuver that would have normally been the spacecraft's responsibility, but there aren't that many missions that could take advantage of that capability. Orbital refueling is going to be way more useful and the one thing Tory never seems to talk about is how Centaur V/ACES is supposed to get tanked back up.

[Anonymous No.16005222]

It's kinda funny how there are literally dozens of long march launches that were made for the development of the current Spaceplane and hypersonic weapons that...just weren't announced, officialy counted or even reported anywhere, and that we only know through rumors from chinese forums.

Picrel, 2 December 2014.

[Anonymous No.16005225]

>>16005222
because there is a version of CZ-2C (basically a DF-5 icbm painted in white) that is suborbital so the amateur community doesn't track it
USSF of course does and even mentioned it in the news in 2021.

[Anonymous No.16005226]

>>16005222
Also, for the autists, a lot of them used custom-made rockets, one of the 2011 launches (September 22) is reported as "Mixture of CZ-2C and CZ-2D"... which are two rockets made by two different companies...
There are several unique long march versions that were just there and forgotten.

[Anonymous No.16005227]

>>16005225
The 2021 suborbital launch is well reported, those before not much.

[Anonymous No.16005228]

>>16005227
they do release a NOTAM like 12 hours before the launch
like this one launched in 11/22/23 is believed to be a suborbital CZ-2C carrying an HGV

[Anonymous No.16005229]

>>16005179
It's called a ballistic missile.

[Anonymous No.16005231]

>>16005228

[Anonymous No.16005233]

>>16005228
Again, the recent ones aren't the ones from 10 years ago
They already launched without any kind of NOTAM

[Anonymous No.16005242]

>>16005226
>CZ-2C and CZ-2D... which are made by two different companies
what really? Is the man-rated CZ-2F also a different company?

[Anonymous No.16005258]

Wait, we still don't know the orbit of OTV-7?

[Anonymous No.16005263]

>>16005258
too stealthy to track
they all just gave up

[Anonymous No.16005269]

>>16005258

oops wrong file
anyway, i dont know what to make of it
https://twitter.com/rondaz_4/status/1742126732856217715

[Anonymous No.16005273]

>>16005242
The 2D is produced by the Shanghai Academy of Spaceflight Technology (SAST), while the 2C is built by the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT). Both of these are subdivisions of CASC, the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation, which is the main contractor for Chinese spaceflight operations. The 2F is also a CALT product.

[Anonymous No.16005288]

>>16005263
>>16005269
heh, good, serves them right, they need to learn to shut the fuck up and opsec and stop making the CCP's job any easier

[Anonymous No.16005292]

>>16003884
>put it for vote again with the proper disclosure
What facts were withheld?

[Anonymous No.16005294]

>>16005288
You think China is going to have a harder time spotting it than a few Twitter randos with telescopes?

[Anonymous No.16005295]

>>16003902
>How is a board supposed to predict the future of the company that is nearing bankruptcy during that year?
It happened, so according to superdetermism it was inevitable. The board should have informed the shareholders of this.

[Anonymous No.16005302]

SSTO HTHL spaceplanes are dea-....
Radian 1: allow me to introduce myself

[Anonymous No.16005304]

>>16003943
Battling the Mantis Men who have taken over the old USAF base on the far side of the moon

[Anonymous No.16005305]

B-but atleast the shuttle like spaceplanes are dead... Right???

[Anonymous No.16005307]

New hullo!! Scott Manley here
https://youtu.be/V4BQvD_QJwM?si=mEseeA1gFJUQ-1uC

[Anonymous No.16005308]

>>16005302
The first thing that comes up when you google "Radian 1" is an unrelated gun manufacturer. All that comes up when you inquire about job openings on their site is
>Thank you for your interest. Unfortunately, we are not hiring at this time.

>Radian was founded in 2016. In January 2022, the company closed a $27.5 million seed round led by venture capital fund Fine Structure Ventures.

I'm sure these guys are going to revolutionize spaceflight.

>>16005305
Not dead. Just niche.

[Anonymous No.16005310]

>>16004047
Impressive hacker skills

[Anonymous No.16005312]

>>16003722
Why can't someone build a barebones artificial gravity station using some tethers and that Sierra space inflatable habitat

[Anonymous No.16005313]

>>16005308
Trust the proccess g they waiting for 27 More and then they work

[Anonymous No.16005319]

>>16005312
Not needed bro
Maybe if we have long Mars trips some day, you would need artificial gravity but now Is useless and with Mars you just make 2 starships kiss and spin them

[Anonymous No.16005320]

>>16005307
Scott Manlet from Troon, Scotland. Im still looking for that image of Scott Manley! (List of adjectives) FAGGOT! that I lost.

[Anonymous No.16005321]

>>16005319
Make donut shaped inflatable habitat and use starship as the axle

[Anonymous No.16005338]

Vast is still on track for August 25, 2025 it seems. Getting more and more confident that they will be the first commercial station.

[Anonymous No.16005340]

>>16005338
Forgot the image
https://x.com/vast/status/1752773142203007115

[Anonymous No.16005346]

>>16005310
lol

[Anonymous No.16005347]

>>16005310
I guess it doesn't work anymore

[Anonymous No.16005354]

>>16005347
It works with some sites, where the subscription notice is like an ad overlay. You can recognise them by the article fading out slowly

[Anonymous No.16005356]

>>16005269
*taps mic*

[Anonymous No.16005357]

uh guys
https://twitter.com/DKiSAerospace/status/1752419889032397013

[Anonymous No.16005363]

>>16003842
I seriously cannot imagine liking the look of an SRB.

[Anonymous No.16005367]

>>16003884
by that standard there isn't a single independent board on this fucking planet and every delaware incorporated company should immediately exit

[Anonymous No.16005373]

>>16005367
Brandon managed to kill the golden goose of his home state's economy.

[Anonymous No.16005376]

>>16003944
five YEARS and you still can't dock? what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.16005381]

>>16004034
It's very easy once you figure it out/get something working. The problem with difficulty perception is that most people think of space probes, which are almost always new designs, which means they're hard.
The first Falcon booster landing was hard. Ten years later SpaceX lands more reliably than most people launch.
Space itself is a clean vacuum with mild dose rates and harsh thermals. Space is the ideal environment for a machine to run with zero maintenance for decades. The only issue is we're not used to designing shit for that environment so we suck at it on the first attempt.

[Anonymous No.16005382]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1752827444397277508

[Anonymous No.16005385]

https://twitter.com/SpaceForceDoD/status/1752840437625184710

Space Force first soldier in the field in August

[Anonymous No.16005404]

>>16005385
>“The core of our mission on the space station is to perform science experiments and collect data,” Hague said.
Wake me up when they install a 30mm cannon on the station exterior.

[Anonymous No.16005409]

>>16005170
you again?

[Anonymous No.16005418]

>>16005376
I can dock i can't rendezvous, i did the tutorial for docking and all good just set as objetive and burn, but to get their orbit clóset i am just a brainlet

[Anonymous No.16005424]

>>16005404
>collect data
what do you think "collecting data" means anon, a weaponized station is the classified shit they do with the X-37B.

[Anonymous No.16005427]

>>16005409
Why do you eat BBC for breakfast anon?

[Anonymous No.16005430]

>>16005418
how are you so fucking retarded, why are you still coming back here

[Anonymous No.16005431]

>>16005430
Please don't be mean

[Anonymous No.16005434]

>>16005431
Get out. NOW.

[Anonymous No.16005436]

>>16005434
NOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.16005443]

>>16005434
>>16005436
hey now, let's not be hasty, we should hand him increasingly difficult KSP rendezvous and docking maps until he either figures it out or kills himself

[Anonymous No.16005450]

why do you people even play KSP? looks like a gay kids game
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.16005452]

>>16005450
people obsessing over felon musk and gay kids overlap very deeply.

[Anonymous No.16005453]

avax and starship are both going to the moon in late 2025, screencap this

[Anonymous No.16005456]

>>16005452
>>16005450
Come on you are just being edgy

[Anonymous No.16005458]

>>16005453
>avax
>a vaxx

[Anonymous No.16005464]

>>16005453
Fuck off turkroach go shill your doublemint roach chain elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.16005478]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3RtcBelj0g

Fuck you can just see this booster from ~140km up, now imagine when its Super Heavy

[Anonymous No.16005482]

>>16005382
Fucking NICE. I know what my next vacation trip is going to be.

[Anonymous No.16005490]

>>16005482
Shut the fuck up stupid turkroach I bet you suck nigger dicks daily

[Anonymous No.16005492]

>>16005490
he who smelt it dealt it

[Anonymous No.16005496]

Mfw my girlfriend left me for big silicon cock

[Anonymous No.16005503]

>>16005356
I believe. 2 months from now they will announce the sat has raised its orbit

[Anonymous No.16005504]

https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1752867103206420581
>The FAA is on pace to issue a Starship launch license mid to late February, I’m told, in what is shaping up to be a busy month. Intuitive Machines plans to launch in time for a Feb. 22 lunar landing, which is the same day Crew-8 is scheduled to launch. Caveats about delays, etc.

2

WEEKS

[Anonymous No.16005509]

Hop wen

[Anonymous No.16005510]

>they loaded the SRB's for that extra authenticity and nerve-wracking feeling on launch

Wow... talk about dedication

[Anonymous No.16005514]

https://spacenews.com/space-force-seeks-to-clear-up-confusion-over-selection-of-northrop-grummans-refueling-tech/
> ORLANDO, Fla. — Following Northrop Grumman’s recent announcement that its satellite refueling port was selected as the preferred standard for military satellites, a Space Systems Command official said the company’s statement has been misinterpreted as making Northrop the sole provider.
> She explained that Northrop Grumman’s Passive Refueling Module (PRM) was developed with government funding so it went through a specialized assessment as government-owned intellectual property. This led to its approval as a refueling standard for military satellites. However, Bulson stressed, this does not preclude adopting other commercially developed options.

[Anonymous No.16005515]

>>16005510
>California África
??? What the shit

[Anonymous No.16005519]

>>16005504
its happening

[Anonymous No.16005521]

>>16005514
>US DOD now has their own refueling port/module design

holy shit, no going back from this, Shelby's reign of terror is over

[Anonymous No.16005524]

https://spacenews.com/exotrail-developing-space-tug-to-carry-small-satellites-to-geostationary-orbit/
> The company in November launched its first payload hosting vehicle, called SpaceVan, to low Earth orbit. The geostationary (GEO) version of the vehicle is projected to launch in 2026, Sébastien Duménil, Exotrail’s chief commercial officer, said Jan. 30.

SpaceVan, lmao

[Anonymous No.16005525]

>>16005504
right on schedule

[Anonymous No.16005527]

>>16005524
Spacetug company #28462826
The market is oversaturated. Ive said before why but which one will stand atop the rest

[Anonymous No.16005530]

>>16005521
well they clarified this is one of the refueling port designs, not the standard yet

[Anonymous No.16005532]

>>16005530
They clarified that they are willing to approve other port designs, but as of this moment only Northrop's has been which de facto makes it the standard.

[Anonymous No.16005533]

>>16005504
This cant happen....As a thunderf0p subscriber i say, THIS CANNOT HAPPEN

[Anonymous No.16005536]

>>16005533
>>16005533
BASED

[Anonymous No.16005541]

new eager face https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsXttXnqNNM

[Anonymous No.16005544]

>>16005541
Shut up buy an ad and FUCK MANLET TOO

[Anonymous No.16005546]

>>16005541
Thank you, just bought your merch. Tachyon tablets, what a riot!

[Anonymous No.16005548]

>>16005544
>>16005546
its not me you faggots

[Anonymous No.16005550]

>>16005548
Why dont you kill yourself troon native

[Anonymous No.16005552]

>>16005550
troon native?

[Anonymous No.16005555]

>>16005548
then why did you say it's me? that makes no sense! anyway it is good to meet you sir. when will you do a face reveal??

[Anonymous No.16005557]

>>16005552
The town Hullo was born in is called Troon.

[Anonymous No.16005561]

>>16005557
ohh lmao, that's fucking hilarious hilarious actually

[Anonymous No.16005567]

>>16005541

[Anonymous No.16005568]

Tory Bruno real man

[Anonymous No.16005571]

[Anonymous No.16005575]

[Anonymous No.16005580]

[Anonymous No.16005581]

>>16005418
>get into similar orbit as target
>set target as target
>make a maneuver and play with normal and antinormal to get a .01% or less ascending node
>make a maneuver that gets you an intercept of roughly <12km separation and <100m/s relative velocity
>get to intercept
>set navball to target
>burn retrograde until you have 0 relative velocity
>burn target
>get within ~100 meters of target
>burn retrograde until you have 0 relative velocity
>dock as you already know how to
ezpz

[Anonymous No.16005584]

[Anonymous No.16005589]

>>16005584
this is the face of stagnation and despair
I am become ULA, destroyer of hope in spaceflight

[Anonymous No.16005594]

>>16005589
he oozes masculinity

[Anonymous No.16005604]

>>16005594
he is the enforcer of the decels trying to keep humans on earth

[Anonymous No.16005605]

>>16005604
he is literally space cowboy, like the animes

[Anonymous No.16005609]

>>16005567
what an absolute nightmare

[Anonymous No.16005611]

>>16005605
thinly veiled disguise, he is a snake

[Anonymous No.16005619]

>>16005611
he is clever and cunning

[Anonymous No.16005639]

>>16005619
*bald

[Anonymous No.16005689]

>Elon is making both Starship and Neuralink real
>the Chinese are trying to steal everything
we Outlaw Star now

[Anonymous No.16005717]

>>16005689
We need to get to work on weaponizing the Canadarm for grappler ships, and get /x/ to work on caster guns.

[Anonymous No.16005724]

[Anonymous No.16005729]

>>16005724
She fucked up the hashtag

[Anonymous No.16005733]

>>16004023
Meanwhile every two bit Euro space agency is lining up at the axiom booth for a seat on Dragon.

[Anonymous No.16005740]

>>16005724
Does Tory’s wife know he’s having an affair with a Japanese woman?

[Anonymous No.16005744]

https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-shares-assignments-for-its-spacex-crew-9-space-station-mission/
> Launching aboard the Dragon spacecraft, NASA astronauts Commander Zena Cardman, Pilot Nick Hague, and Mission Specialist Stephanie Wilson, and Roscosmos cosmonaut Mission Specialist Aleksandr Gorbunov, will join Expedition 71 and 72 crew members no earlier than August. They will arrive to the space station for a short duration handover with NASA’s SpaceX Crew-8 mission

[Anonymous No.16005775]

>>16005744
I like that we’re getting back to basics with russian/american missions.
too many euro heavy missions lately.

[Anonymous No.16005799]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1752864029029421296

[Anonymous No.16005800]

>>16005799

[Anonymous No.16005801]

>>16003776
>>16003817
Yes. Northop-Grumman isn't commanding B-21 missons. Once SS is mature, DoD wants to purchase a few (and hopefully throw $/ political weight behind developing it first). Like other pieces of high tech military equipment, the DoD will own and operate it, but have some SpaceX contractors advising on ground support and maintenance.

[Anonymous No.16005803]

>>16005800

[Anonymous No.16005810]

>>16005510
>uncircumcised shuttle

[Anonymous No.16005815]

>>16005801
>>16003817
It literally says in the article.

>In this hypothetical case, the military could take a Starship off the line for a specific mission and return it to SpaceX after it is complete.

[Anonymous No.16005817]

>>16005815
That's delightfully 18th century of them.

[Anonymous No.16005836]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1752922071229722990

kek, I wonder if this is going to be the first of many
Delaware really fucked itself with this

[Anonymous No.16005876]

>>16005836
I'm pretty sure corporate HQ shenanigans is like 80% of Delaware's GDP. This retarded cunt judge destroyed an entire state.

[Anonymous No.16005881]

>>16005876
I saw some source that said its 20% of their tax budget from fees, not sure about the secondary tax effects if you have corporate personnel in Delaware and so on

[Anonymous No.16005884]

>>16005881
>>16005876
and to add to this, what is funny is that even if this gets appealed I think it will still have a very real negative effect
companies leaving Delaware has already been a thing for some years as far as I understand it
Nevada has lower taxes, Wyoming has better privacy laws and now Texas has designed some pro-corporation court system like in Delaware that specializes in corporate law

https://www.ft.com/content/a02b96df-9ee1-4b3b-a31e-087b734840a1

[Anonymous No.16005886]

>>16005273
huh, strange naming scheme. Turns out the 2D is just a shortened, two-stage version of the CZ-4

[Anonymous No.16005887]

>>16005884
> Jamail was said to have taken home hundreds of millions in fees from the case. As for Texas, it cemented a reputation as a place where companies would actively avoid blockbuster commercial litigation over worries of risky and unsophisticated jurisprudence.

something similar is about to happen in Delaware, the lawyers that used some dude as a lead shareholder (with 9 shares) might get hundreds of millions in lawyer fees in this case

[Anonymous No.16005891]

>>16005525
baby shake your tail feathers!

[Anonymous No.16005892]

Shut the fuck up Tesla is not spaceflight

[Anonymous No.16005907]

Will SpaceX follow suit and transfer state of incorporation to Texas? Might as well go all in.

[Anonymous No.16005914]

>>16005907
would make sense with a lot of the operations being in texas
but private companies are not as vulnerable to predatory lawyer firm led lawsuits like this as far as I know, its more of a public company thing
but if this is a sign of things to come and the Delaware courts becoming politically compromised then moving might make sense

[Anonymous No.16005947]

>>16005884
>>16005876
>>16005881
>>16005836
>>16005887
Fuck off or talk about Spaceflight!

[Anonymous No.16005959]

>>16005947
Everything in spaceflight besides SpaceX moves like a narcoleptic snail until the rocket actually lights. Has Stoke even hopped their first stage yet?

[Anonymous No.16006035]

Bros my NEETdom is soon coming to an end. I scored my first job

[Anonymous No.16006047]

Big Chygnus capture stream at ISS.

https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1752961237527203977

[Anonymous No.16006053]

>>16006047

[Anonymous No.16006055]

>>16006053

[Anonymous No.16006058]

>>16006055

[Anonymous No.16006063]

Solid capture.

[Anonymous No.16006065]

>>16006058

[Anonymous No.16006071]

>[jazz intro]
>Charlie Bolden: SPACE is BLACK
Oh goddammit I hate Coonuary.

[Anonymous No.16006081]

I shit my fucking diaper (astronaut)

[Anonymous No.16006086]

JAXA image from SLIM CAM_PX_animation_page_0001
https://www.isas.jaxa.jp/home/slim/SLIM/operation_status/index.html

[Anonymous No.16006103]

>>16006086
looks like the lunar surface

[Anonymous No.16006161]

bros the contract I'm bout to sign with future employer basically contains the following:
>I'm not allowed to work in manufacture or construction of metal construction for 2 years after leaving the company

Is this too broad? Should I ask them to take it out?

[Anonymous No.16006165]

Bros the contract I'm about to sign with the future employer basically contains the following
>I'm not allowed to work in the manufacture of metal construction or the servicing of metal construction up to 2 years after leaving the company.

Is this too broad? Should I sign it? Ask them to change it?

[Anonymous No.16006168]

>>16006165
2 years seem kind of a lot but it might be standard

[Anonymous No.16006182]

>>16006086
Why is the moon so boring bros? It's literally black and white. Imagine being the first people to send up a color camera and wondering if it was broken when the pictures came back.

>>16006165
I have a friend that works at an oldspace company, and there was a clause about not being able to work at a competitor in the industry for like 1 or 2 years after they leave. Seems standard

[Anonymous No.16006183]

>>16006165
just corporate bullshit that's meant to prevent industrial espionage
nobody can enforce this in any way

[Anonymous No.16006184]

>>16006182
manufacture of metal construction seems very broad to me. Also I'm only going to be programming a robot. Do you think I can talk it down to 6 months or maybe get them to remove it completely?

[Anonymous No.16006187]

>>16006183
>nobody can enforce this in any way
the fine in the contract seems pretty substantial. Wouldn't all they have to do be seeing me working for a company that does something with "metal constructions" and then take me to court?

[Anonymous No.16006215]

>>16005581
personally I prioritize getting an intercept of less than two klicks of separation and less than 400 m/s relative velocity
exceptions can be made if the object is in a weird orbit but nobody wants to try to burn for a rendezvous of a km/s

[Anonymous No.16006216]

>>16006184
With that attitude you could talk youself into finding a new job

[Anonymous No.16006220]

What should I do? I emailed Zubrin about getting a girlfriend and he never replied...

[Anonymous No.16006230]

>>16006220
Idk just ask like 50 girls, one of them is bound to say yes

[Anonymous No.16006246]

>>16006230
why didnt zubrin help me though : (

[Anonymous No.16006249]

>>16006220
I am proud to say I have never consciously sought a girlfriend
They say virgins are bitter, but I am a shining example of what a virgin COULD be. Apathetic!

[Anonymous No.16006255]

>>16006187
I mean it depends on where you live/work
some places ban this shit outright
some places will force employer to pay you wage not to work for those 2 years if they want it legally enforceable
few places might side with the employer in some instances where there's a reason to believe you are using trade secrets
but they don't have a spy network and aren't legally obliged to know where you work and what you do.

it's 100% an intimidation tactic to scare you from taking a better job elsewhere

[Anonymous No.16006261]

>>16006246
zubrin died in ukraine

[Anonymous No.16006264]

Is China dominating the world yet?

[Anonymous No.16006269]

>>16006261
hes posting nikki haley memees right now though

[Anonymous No.16006273]

>>16006269
>nikki haley
Who tf is thatte

[Anonymous No.16006274]

>>16006216
I am autistic please explain. Also I masterfully negotiated it down to 6 months btw.

[Anonymous No.16006275]

>>16006273
your future gf :)

[Anonymous No.16006282]

>>16006255
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.16006299]

DREAM CHASER UNVEIL IN AN HOUR

https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-sierra-space-invite-media-to-see-spaceplane-for-cargo-missions/

Sierra Space and NASA will have an unveil ceremony of Dream Chaser in its final launch configuration at 10:15 ET.

Anyone have a link?

[Anonymous No.16006307]

>>16006275
she cute

[Anonymous No.16006310]

>>16006299
lots of exciting and interesting news in the spaceflight industry lately

[Anonymous No.16006316]

>>16006299
This is big, they are announcing crew?

[Anonymous No.16006320]

>>16006282
Noncompete clauses are explicitly non enforceable in California. It's why they still have a startup culture.

[Anonymous No.16006342]

>>16006320
youre fucking retarded. i got sued over a non compete IN CALIFORNIA. dirty scumbag rat. trying to get other people in trouble.

[Anonymous No.16006344]

>>16006342
You're a retarded schizo.

[Anonymous No.16006355]

GUYS GET THE FUCK IN HERE!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T8auUw2RnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T8auUw2RnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T8auUw2RnQ

[Anonymous No.16006357]

>>16006355
Seething SpaceX stans in shambles

[Anonymous No.16006358]

>>16006342
Can you explain why you were sued?

[Anonymous No.16006364]

>>16006355
Nah fuck off.

[Anonymous No.16006367]

How come many tiles are falling off Starship yet few tiles were falling of the Space Shuttle? What is SpaceX doing not right?

[Anonymous No.16006369]

>>16006355
hava nagilla

[Anonymous No.16006371]

>>16006367
SpaceX is using smelly brown Mexicans.

[Anonymous No.16006384]

>>16006355
Is he jewish

[Anonymous No.16006385]

>>16006384
doesn't give off vibes no

[Anonymous No.16006393]

>>16004763
he just hates armchair experts (like you)

[Anonymous No.16006401]

>>16006393
>does GNC work
>constantly posts about other aspects of rockets like he's an authority on them

he's the armchair expert lmao

[Anonymous No.16006408]

If I accidentally fuck up the robot at work can I be liable for damages?

[Anonymous No.16006427]

>>16006393
>its everyone hating on me for no reason
>read his X profile
>its constant seething about spacex

[Anonymous No.16006444]

>>16006408
is that fucking vaush

[Anonymous No.16006447]

Watch frieren.

[Anonymous No.16006448]

>>16006447
no

[Anonymous No.16006451]

>>16006447

[Anonymous No.16006469]

If you pay to watch any sort of media on the internet you are a midwit that shouldnt EVER go to Mars.

[Anonymous No.16006472]

>>16006469
even porn?

[Anonymous No.16006475]

>>16006472
Especially porn

[Anonymous No.16006483]

can you fucking tasteless fags at least watch and shill GOOD anime instead of this absolute slop?

[Anonymous No.16006484]

>>16006483
>GOOD anime
>Implying it exists

[Anonymous No.16006486]

>>16006472
The entire porn market should have gone under the second cheap webcams became commercially available to the public. Who wants to see some tatted up whore with a thousand cock stare pretending to enjoy her thursday at work? That performance is so far removed from real sex as to be ridiculous.
>>16006483
I'm enjoying Delicious in Dungeon, because I like fantasy settings and cooking.

[Anonymous No.16006488]

>>16006486
you WILL eat the treasure bugs

[Anonymous No.16006495]

>>16006484

[Anonymous No.16006498]

>>16006488
You VVILL become a cannibal
>>16006495
Awful show.

[Anonymous No.16006504]

>>16006483
use google

[Anonymous No.16006508]

>>16006483
how is this not good?

[Anonymous No.16006513]

>>16006486
onlyfans proves you wrong

[Anonymous No.16006519]

>>16006508
Kys footnigger ywngts

[Anonymous No.16006520]

please evacuate yourself to the anime board

[Anonymous No.16006521]

>>16006385
he gives mega kike vibes

[Anonymous No.16006522]

>>16006513
That's just prostitution with a barrier

[Anonymous No.16006528]

>>16006508
Holy based
>>16006519
Be better

[Anonymous No.16006539]

>>16006384
no, just ugly

[Anonymous No.16006549]

>>16005876
I suspect that, if there's one thing businessmen don't like, it's judges who retroactively mess with their compensation package 6 years after the fact

[Anonymous No.16006557]

>>16005887
how is he gonna pay it off.

[Anonymous No.16006561]

when's the starlab launch on starship? was there not a date given?

[Anonymous No.16006568]

>>16006522
>The porn industry is fake
>Onlyfans is just distance whoring
>But camsites are totes legit guys
The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one

[Anonymous No.16006569]

>>16003884
>shareholders will obviously vote for it again
Why would they? Musk has already delivered his services. Musk's only leverage is to threaten to withhold future services.

Besides, even if shareholders did vote to reinstate the same comp package, the judge would just void it again unless Tesla's board is swapped before the vote. And the judge might void it again anyway unless Musk's worst enemies are appointed to Tesla's board because that's the only thing the judge considers to be "independent".

[Anonymous No.16006571]

>>16006568
>>But camsites are totes legit guys
Never said that, didn't imply it, bad try.
I said the professional porn industry doesn't need to exist when any person can create the material themselves for free, and distribute it for free. There's no need for a market model.

[Anonymous No.16006578]

>>16006571
Oh so you're just retarded then, why the fuck would anyone just make content for free?
>No need for a market model
Kek, fuck off commie

[Anonymous No.16006581]

There's so much free porn yet people still pay for it.

[Anonymous No.16006583]

What happens when Texas turns into a deep perma blue state due to the mexicans there

[Anonymous No.16006584]

>make compensation package
>everyone agrees on it
>Musk actually gets the $50 billion
>Shareholders make judge withhold money
This is bullshit

[Anonymous No.16006587]

>>16006578
>why the fuck would anyone just make content for free?
Fun, which fucking is.
Sorry, getting fucked is not work.

[Anonymous No.16006593]

>be me
>try to bake
>suddenly 300 second countdown appears
hopefully someone doesn't bake before me

[Anonymous No.16006595]

>>16006593
it happened to me yesterday, but only happened one time. not sure what caused it.

[Anonymous No.16006597]

Tianhui 天回航天 just tested the Qiaolong-1 巧龙一号 85kN kerolox engine

https://www.weibo.com/5658451754/NEoWjELk0

[Anonymous No.16006606]

STAGING
>>16006604
>>16006604

>>16006604
>>16006604

>>16006604
>>16006604

>>16006604
>>16006604

[Anonymous No.16006610]

>>16006584
Unfortunately for him the directors have a fiduciary duty and the paper trail and testimony has them going "yep this deal you proposed is good, no need to negotiate."

[Anonymous No.16006612]

>>16004865
everything other than SpaceX is a meme or a grift or both
they're also-rans whose best case scenario is using legislation or litigation to do some rent seeking
Rocket Lab is both