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>> No.15989695

>>15989554
she agrees with all my favorite theories, because she's very smart

>> No.15989708

>>15989554
Stop it Sabine! My member is now hard!

>> No.15989723

>>15989554
I watched a lot of her long form debates with other physics fags and when she has more time you see that she is much more reasonable and less black and white. But I assume she simplifies her stance on things for retards who watch her main channel. She's actually not as stupid as I thought at first. But she's for sure a German Autist and that limits her creativity. She's basically allergic to the philosophy side of physics.

>>15989708
Also this.

>> No.15989750

>>15989723
>the philosophy side of physics.
Not science.

>> No.15989761

>>15989723
Maybe youre so quick to judge because your goyslop culture produces and values low effort science philosopher brainlets so much.

>> No.15989833

>>15989723
>philosophy side of natural philosophy
>>15989750
>>the philosophy side of natural philosophy
>Not natural philosophy
>>15989761
>natural philosophy philosopher

>> No.15989853

>>15989554
Stopped watching her content after she tried to make an argument where every individual point was correct but irrelevant to the conclusion.

>> No.15989901

>>15989554
>*denies climate change*

>> No.15990024
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15990024

>>15989554
>Doesn't tackle the behavioral and political effects of genital cutting

>> No.15990036

>>15990024
do americans really

>> No.15990049

>>15990036
Yep. No funskin allowed. Only bare glans rubbing all the time, leading to passive aggression and hypersexual lability with amplified dominance and submission dynamics. And splitting the core self by amputating part of an infant in the preverbal stage.

>> No.15990081
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15990081

>>15990049
>American is born
>Leaves a tip

>> No.15990086

>>15990081
Indeed, truly vile.

>> No.15990099

>>15989750
Yes, of course. Hamilton's principle of least action has absolutely no philosophical underpinnings at all (despite being an almost entirely axiomatic framework which then proliferates throughout all of causal macro physics).

>> No.15990117

>>15990081
Better be the a full tip. The doctor did just perform a $1500 delivery in a nice delivery room. Least you can do is give him the frenulum.

>> No.15990123
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15990123

>>15989750
You get a PhD in physics, you know what the P stands for right??

Also the exact response you gave is why physicists have been spinning their wheels accomplishing jack shit for decades vs their peers from generations past. Those physicists knew that the coin has two sides. There is no science without philosophy. You can't put the cart before the horse.....or let me guess, you think that's air you're breathing?

>> No.15990125
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15990125

>>15990117
He can take the cord blood too while he's at it.

>> No.15990154

>>15989750
BUWHWHWhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah


Eat shit loser
Die slow
Sabine has spoken!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3UNPOG3ZJ4

>> No.15990200

>>15989723
History's greatest philosophers are all German autists, cease your slander

>> No.15990374

>>15989554
another grifter vaguely appealing to science skeptic boomers.

>> No.15990383

>>15989554
Reddit the physisist

>> No.15990662

>>15990123
>>15990099
>>15989833
no one gives a shit, the only philosophy of science is the scientific method which is just a pedantic way to say "you have to do independent objective checks". This isnt a field of knowledge, literally just the scientific method

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15990702

>>15989695
>she agrees with all my favorite theories, because she's very smart
Literally me

>> No.15990747

>>15989723
Philosophy of Science is as useful to scientists as Ornithology is to birds.

>> No.15990755

>>15989554
This stupid bitch need to sit down, shut the fuck up and let the real scientists do their work

>> No.15990770

>On the question of free will, Hossenfelder advocates incompatibilism. Free will cannot be justified by any laws of nature, as these are deterministic (even in chaos theory) with the exception of quantum mechanics, which in turn only recognizes uncontrollable chance.

>> No.15990777

>>15990770
>He doesn't have a divine spark with a basis outside the universe
Okay, hylic.

>> No.15990788

>>15990747
>Philosophy of Science is as useful to scientists as
>music theory to musicians
>learning piano as a second instrument is an actual requirement for all musicians both by conservatory and business

>> No.15990810

>>15990788
you cant make an argument about science so you just talk about other things?
Pray tell how is philosophy useful for science?

>> No.15990822

>>15990810
>Pray tell how is philosophy useful for science?
Anyone who has to ask this will never make a useful polymath, they lack the underlying cognitive and psychological "architecture" to be truly interdisciplinary. So anyone answering you is wasting their time. Either you get it or you don't, and if you're capable, you'll come out of it on your own anyway.

I'm replying to discourage that anon and anyone else from engaging with you.

>> No.15990838

>>15989554
the only thing i disagree with her about is dismissing dark matter without even mentioning the strongest evidence in its favor, i haven't ever seen her say anything else that i would especially disagree with

>> No.15990956

>>15990822
its clear you just dont know what are pretending to defend. You are a pretentious impostor playing as an intellectual but are completely hollow and exposed

>> No.15990961

>>15990956
You forgot to attach a brainlet wojak meme.
lel

>> No.15990967

>>15990961
all these excuses instead of making an argument

>> No.15990968

>>15990967
You're reaction based, like a bot. A biobot. You just asked me for a prompt.

>> No.15991162

>>15990200
Your german pseuds have never done a single useful thing for society all they've amounted to is recreating religious texts for their pseud followers to debate like theologians and have tax money wasted on universities to study their garbage that does nothing useful for anyone except make retards think they're intelligent. The greatest philosophers are Pythagoras, Plato, and Jesus.

>> No.15991165

>>15990662
The philosophy retards typically redefine the word to appropriate science and then call themselves philosophers since they read a faggot's book and act as if they're responsible for science that they could never understand because they're a philosopher and philosophy can also mean science

>> No.15991170
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15991170

>>15991165
You are a slave.

>> No.15991175

>>15991170
How original

>> No.15991178

>>15991175
You're welcome.

I do whatever I want. I use anything and everything for what I want. I don't care about its creator, its ecology, or you.

You are a slave.
I accept the burden of being in control.

We're in different worlds and we're not the same.

>> No.15991183

>>15989750
A lot of physics stems down from thoughts experiments which are essentially philosophy.

Remember that Shannon's greatest invention was directly inspired by his philosophy class.

Philosophy is a way to qualitatively articulate ideas and thoughts beyond simply crushing numbers.

>> No.15991184

>>15991178
>You're a slave because you called out the fallacy of defining everything as philosophy then taking credit for science that has nothing to do with debating what german retards say
Okay

>> No.15991189

>>15991184
Ha, oh well. Everything has its place. You're made to do that sort of work. The natural order, no ill will intended. Best of luck!

>> No.15991192

>>15991189
You really don't like being outed as a lair do you?

>> No.15991193

>>15991192
What exactly do you think is going on here, Anon?

>> No.15991196

>>15991193
You tried to define science as philosophy so you could take credit for it for philosophy that's mostly used to refer to non-scientific discussion about ethics or metaphysics, got outed as a liar, then began posting teenager pseud tier insults

>> No.15991199

[math]f(x_i)[math]

>> No.15991202

>>15991196
I didn't do anything. This >>15990822 was my first reply to you. You were so TRRRIIGGGEEERRRREEEEDDDDD!!! (lol) that you didn't bother to read + comprehend.
>I'm replying to discourage that anon and anyone else from engaging with you.
A pattern which cintinued and is probably all pervasive throughout your checkered life spent in the highly selective perception of base consciousness.

>> No.15991207

>>15991202
That was a separate anon, you replied to >>15991165 for no apparent reason other than being upset at it.

>> No.15991208

>>15991207
You have a fundamental malformation in how you think.

>> No.15991210

>>15991208
Powerful

>> No.15991211

>>15991210
Inspitational.
So brave.
Moved me to the core.

>> No.15991293

>>15991162
>creating religious texts for their pseud followers to debate like theologians and have tax money wasted on universities to study their garbage that does nothing useful for anyone
I agree, that perfectly describes plato, jesus and pythagoras (like all philosophers in the current sense.) But at least kant and schopenhauer deboonked all of them. Feel free to seeth and cope though

>> No.15991359

>>15991293
It doesn't perfectly describe Jesus at all since he never wrote any of his doctrines down as far as we know they were written by his followers at least twenty years after he died, some maybe over a hundred years. As for Plato and Pythagoras most of their writings are written precisely and unambiguously unlike the germans pseuds who intentionally wrote vaguely to get their retarded followers to beg them for answers and then eventually deify them. And even if you're accusations were true, the difference is they actually created new ideas that inspired people and formed new religions and helped normal people answer questions. Your germans did absolutely nothing, they contributed nothing to society whatsoever.

>> No.15991363

>>15991293
Oh and feel free to explain how your pseuds debunked their unfalsifiable ideas.

>> No.15991373

>>15990024
>americans are so obsessed with foreskin that they will bring it up unprompted, completely randomly, in a thread that has nothing at all to do with it
You wouldn't have a girlfriend even if you had an intact foreskin.

>> No.15991378

>>15991373
I am American, and I have an intact foreskin.

You tried! hahahahaaa

>> No.15991380

>>15991378
So you have an intact foreskin but you are still obsessed with other people's lack of intact foreskins to the point you'll randomly bring it up for no reason?

>> No.15991383

>>15991210
Powerful. yeah
nigger

>> No.15991384

>>15991380
That is correct. I grew up submerged within and surrounded by a genital cutting culture and its products. I have things to say about this.

>> No.15991399 [DELETED] 

SHE DEBOONKED THE SCHRODINGER'S CAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJDWPLlI5I4

>> No.15991414

>>15991384
So talk about it where it's relevant, not in random fucking threads, retard.

>> No.15991425

>>15991414
I'm not here for you, bud. It's the other way around. I'd tack on "And don't you forget it", but it doesn't actually matter what goes on in your animal consciousness.

>> No.15991430

>>15991425
Okay, gay autist. I bet you have pictures of cut and uncut cocks that you post to show how evil circumcision is.

>> No.15991436

>>15991430
Nope, just the one. >>15990024

Which I should have titled "nofunskinallowed"

>> No.15991441

>>15991430
Also the more you reply to me, the more you sound like you're circumcoping. Just saiyan.

>> No.15991442

>>15991436
Yes, I bet you think foreskin is a lot of fun. You like sucking smeggies out of another man's foreskin? I bet you do, faggot.

>> No.15991451

>>15991442
>Yes, I bet you think foreskin is a lot of fun
My funskin being enjoyable is implied, yes. Do you like talking about penises in depth, anon? Do you like thinking about dicks and foreskin DEEEEPPPLY?

kek

>> No.15991475

>>15991183
>>A lot of physics stems down from thoughts experiments which are essentially philosophy.
If you can test it, then it's science. If you can't test it, then it's worthless.

>> No.15991488

>>15990662
I thought the same thing but I definitely see this being actually useful like it's consequences. Do you want to test some ideas? There are philosophies behind it. It's why they're not doing genetic engineering and don't do race studies. Obviously their "philosophy" is wrong. Lombroso's ideas are back too.

>> No.15991501

>>15990810
age?

>> No.15991504
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15991504

>>15990747
So, very important? That's how we learn to preserve bird species

>> No.15991526

>>15990125
I wonder about this because I would imagine it would apply to other mammals, too. However, I've had two breeding pairs of Golden Retrievers and the bitch would always eat the placenta and umbilical cord within seconds of birthing a pup. I would think if the benefits were so profound that waiting to remove these parts would have been favored evolutionarily and we would see mothers wait before doing this cleaning.

>> No.15991530

>>15991526
I agree, and have thought about this from an evolutionary psychology / behavioral patterning perspective as well. Apparently it varies in primates what they do with the cord, and I'm not really aware of the physiology involved with animals that have "litters" in terms of placental transfusion. The whole "clamping" aspect is just done to provide hemostasis in humans, even though placental transfusion completes on its own anyway. Mamking it doubly retarded because you cna just wait a few minutes.

However given that this is /sci/, we can just refer to the research literature. Where these parameters have been evaluated.

Boys have lower fine motor and social scores at 4 years old. Significant reduction in brain myelination.
https://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(18)31079-5/fulltext
At 4 months:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6259583/
And 12 months:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32702760/

History of cord management.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3423128/

A review of placental transfusion:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5290307/

Role of ferritin (iron stores) in free radical defense and early neurodevelopment
https://chem.libretexts.org/Courses/Saint_Marys_College_Notre_Dame_IN/CHEM_342%3A_Bio-inorganic_Chemistry/Readings/Metals_in_Biological_Systems_(Saint_Mary's_College)/Iron_Storage%3A_Ferritin

https://www.who.int/elena/titles/cord_clamping/en/
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD004074.pub3/full?highlightAbstract=umbil%7Cumbilical
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD003248.pub4/full?highlightAbstract=umbil%7Cumbilical

So pretty much it looks to me that "modern medicine" and modern human consciousness is pretty much at or below the base consciousness of animals.

>> No.15991538

>>15990747
like, are you comparing scientists to birds? literal bird brains lmao

>> No.15991541

>>15991538
Btw that's a quote from Richard Feynman, Nobel prize winner in physics

>> No.15991560

>>15989554
another dysgenic downs looking european in science. gross kys

>> No.15991682

>>15991359
>Plato and Pythagoras most of their writings are written precisely and unambiguously
How do you know this? Did you somehow find a 2500 year old manuscript written by pythagoras? You would probably be the greatest living archeologist if you achieved such a thing
For Plato, republic is literally assigned to undergrads because its arguments/logic (or lack thereof) are so easy to tear apart.
>and then eventually deify them
You mean actually deify them, in the case of pythagoras and jesus?
>they actually created new ideas that inspired people and formed new religions
El Ron Hubbard is a great philosopher now you guys!
>helped normal people answer questions
Shouldn't a philosopher (natural or otherwise) focus on finding the truth, or the closest possible thing to the truth?

>> No.15991992

>>15991488
Those methods of testing ideas are science so why not just call it science instead of philosophy which is extremely vague and basically encompasses all forms of thought?

>> No.15992008

>>15991992
Because you don't test if it works, you choose the "path" the field goes in the usage. Hard sciences and pure research are different from more practical applications.
Ethics have long cucked even the research to see if the ideas work.

Europeans had underlying concepts and theories. Asians knew random cool facts that were scientifically proven. Who got ahead? That same concepts like those of morals can also hinder or guide them.

>> No.15992241

>>15991183
>thoughts experiments
this is an example of the absurdism of philosophy. A mental experiment. Such idiocy.
An experiment is done in the real world. Planning an experiment or theorizing about them is not and will never be "mental experiments", which are not even concepts.

>> No.15992277

>>15990049
If it were possible to grow neurons from stem cells, what about just implanting more neurons in the shaft of the penis and connecting them to the rest already there with microsurgery? Would this result in increased sensation or would the brain be unable to interpret the new signals?

>> No.15992288

>>15992277
do they even have to be the right type? I like when you touch your cock, are the neurons sending a pleasure signal or are they sending a touch signal and the brain perceives it as pleasure because it comes from the penis?

>> No.15992291

>>15992288
oh god i meant
>Like when you touch your cock*

>> No.15992298

>>15989554
>I DON'T HAVE FREE WILL!! THE COLLISION OF PREVIOUS ATOMS FORCED ME TO MAKE THIS VIDEO!
Why would I listen to such a loon lmao.

>> No.15992305

>>15992298
is she really wrong tho

>> No.15992324

>>15992305
Hume straightened this out well before today's physics ironically. Not only is determinism compatibility with free will but it can be argued to be a prerequisite. If we understood every person as a decision making agent that chooses what to do based on its experience of reality, then we need determinism. Both for the person to be able to make choices using information such that they can actually know and expect different consequences of their different decisions, and also so that the decision making process itself is rational rather than effectively random and/or meaningless.

>> No.15992332

>>15989833
>philosophy side of natural philosophy
Intuitive Theory, theorizing measurements and testing with applied.

>> No.15992395

>>15992324
schizo babble

>> No.15992415

>>15992395
No he's saying that free will and determinism can work together.

You are a being who can make choices. Your decision-making is influenced by your experience of reality. You need determinism to be able to choose things in a rational way. You have to be able to predict what could/should/will happen. In essence you free will and determinism are not separate but rather free will needs a deterministic universe.

>> No.15992426

>>15992415
every choice you make is determined by physics not influenced

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15992446

>>15989554
and yet she won't touch bigbangists, only mild irritatiom about inflation

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>> No.15992585

>>15990024
>AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
>I'M CIRCUMDEBOOOOOOOOONNNNKKKINATINGGG!!!!!