Vulcan Centaur maiden flight

[Anonymous No.15962257]

ULA's new rocket is going to be lifting off in a few bings, and will be sending the the Peregine lander to one of the moon's poles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ6KTFMHenA

[Anonymous No.15962259]

>>15962257
Its just going to scrub.

[Anonymous No.15962280]

>>15962259
That's always a possibility

[Anonymous No.15962429]

>>>/sci/sfg/

[Anonymous No.15962489]

>>15962429
Generals are cancer

[Anonymous No.15962512]

>>15962257
just 6 years late

[Anonymous No.15962532]

>>15962512
Bro, every rocket is late. Both SLS and Falcon Heavy fly 5 years after they were initially slated to do so.

[Anonymous No.15962557]

>>15962532
You're comparing engine development with rocket development...

[Anonymous No.15962579]

>>15962557
Oh, I thought you were talking about the rocket in general and not the BE-4s specifically. But then again developing new engines is expensive and takes forever as well

[Anonymous No.15962630]

Since be-4 is methalox, does that mean the exhaust is gonna be blue?

[Anonymous No.15962631]

>>15962630
yes, just like our blue origin

[Anonymous No.15962667]

>>15962631
>our
Jeff is that you?

[Anonymous No.15962714]

Who's betting on an explosion?

[Anonymous No.15962727]

>>15962667
our blue origin is the earth

[Anonymous No.15962867]

how are we feeling ulasisters?

[Anonymous No.15962878]

>>15962867
Breddy Gud, though Tory does needs to bring back the 'stash

[Anonymous No.15962881]

>>15962878
he did

[Anonymous No.15962883]

>>15962881
Excellent

[Anonymous No.15962885]

my favorite part to watch is when the rocket lands

[Anonymous No.15962927]

You're so pretty,
You're so popular

[Anonymous No.15962932]

>>15962927
I have no idea how much weight the pain for the V adds, but its one hell of a logo.

[Anonymous No.15962937]

45 minute launch window
at 2:18 est

[Anonymous No.15962955]

you are now aware that the Vulcan logo is a smoking cigarette

[Anonymous No.15962961]

>>15962955
Honestly pretty fitting, seems like it would fit her >>15962927 attitude.
Nice dubs btw

[Anonymous No.15962965]

[Anonymous No.15962998]

ula amanda cute

[Anonymous No.15963002]

>proceeding for an on time liftoff

[Anonymous No.15963016]

Spacex bros, I'm not feeling good...

[Anonymous No.15963017]

Does it have the BE-4? Did Jeff finally provide the engines?

[Anonymous No.15963019]

>>15963017
this is a very innovative engineless rocket

[Anonymous No.15963020]

>>15963019
At this point I wouldn't be surprised to find out they used another engine.

[Anonymous No.15963022]

>>15963019
This, the mEMe drive actually turned out to be real

[Anonymous No.15963023]

>>15963017

[Anonymous No.15963025]

>>15963017
no, it never got the engines. not sure how they plan on launching tonight but we'll see

[Anonymous No.15963028]

>>15963025
look at her shoes
>>15962927

[Anonymous No.15963032]

What's the countdown?

[Anonymous No.15963035]

>>15962927

She has stylish engines now! aaaaaaaaAAA

[Anonymous No.15963040]

Wish me luck <3

[Anonymous No.15963044]

WERE GOOD TO GO LADS

[Anonymous No.15963045]

Is everyone in mission control an intern?

[Anonymous No.15963047]

>>15963032
~11m

[Anonymous No.15963049]

All the systems are go, ALL THE SYSTEMS ARE GO

[Anonymous No.15963051]

>>15963045
gen alpha launch commentators be like
>we have liftoff of the sigma rocket fr fr
>we are going through the period of maximum rizz on the sigma rocket
>adin ross reports skibidi trajectory
>we have SECO fr fr no cap
>we have a skibidi insertion into ohio orbit fr

[Anonymous No.15963052]

>>15963045
There are probably no interns in mission control. ULA laid off a large amount of their older workers a few years back so it's a very young company now (especially because Denver).

[Anonymous No.15963054]

[Anonymous No.15963067]

Vulcan: precise. high energy. reliable.

[Anonymous No.15963091]

>bullshit orbiting the sun forever

cool, so the super rich get to have their bullshit pointlessly detract from scientific discovery because they have money

[Anonymous No.15963093]

GO GIRL GOOOOOL

[Anonymous No.15963094]

>>15962257
Godspeed

[Anonymous No.15963099]

We're off!

[Anonymous No.15963104]

AAAAAA

[Anonymous No.15963112]

MUN OR BUST

[Anonymous No.15963110]

>>15962630
turns out you can't really see the exhaust because of the bright ass srbs

[Anonymous No.15963120]

>>15963093
>rocket that's 5.4m in diameter is thicc
nice

[Anonymous No.15963123]

So when will it get to the moon

[Anonymous No.15963125]

I don't trust that gimbaling

[Anonymous No.15963133]

>>15963125
This webm is terrible and I hope bad things happen to you.

[Anonymous No.15963145]

>>15963133
All of this due to blackface musk?Calm down dude

[Anonymous No.15963151]

alright things look good.

[Anonymous No.15963154]

>>15963125

>>15963145
LMAO

[Anonymous No.15963159]

what's the point of this when spacex already figured out launch? this is a pathetic knockoff, lmao

[Anonymous No.15963172]

>>15963159
It's optimized for sending payloads for deep space missions
Also, the government doesn't want to rely on only one launch company for their military payloads

[Anonymous No.15963174]

>>15963159
having more than one company is 'worth' it

[Anonymous No.15963181]

>>15963159
Centaur is a high energy upper stage good for GTO and TLI.
In a perfect world we would see the government forcing ULA and SpaceX to make a Falcon 9 / Centaur LV.

[Anonymous No.15963188]

>>15963172
>government doesn't want to rely on only one launch company
Commercial companies too, you wouldn't want to be stuck with one launch vehicle or launch provider

>>15963181
>Falcon 9 / Centaur LV
Nah, part of the Falcon 9's low cost is the fact that it has the same diameter and uses Kerosene/LOX on both stages. F9 is better optimized for LEO, while VC can better reach higher orbits, they're specialized for different things.

[Anonymous No.15963211]

>>15963188
>Nah, part of the Falcon 9's low cost...
True, they are different enough roles to justify 2 LVs.

[Anonymous No.15963217]

why are /sfg/ posters such desperate attention whores that they can't post their spaceflight posts to the appropriate location and instead insist on spamming up the board with unwanted spaceflight threads?

[Anonymous No.15963219]

I want to FUCK the Astrobiotic woman!!!

[Anonymous No.15963221]

>>15963172
Can it compete on cost with Falcons?

[Anonymous No.15963222]

>>15963219
She's single!

[Anonymous No.15963226]

>>15963217
Kys faggot, I don't even go to /sfg/
t. OP

[Anonymous No.15963229]

>>15963221
For a LEO mission the F9 can do? No.
Can an F9 put 12 tons into TLI? No.

[Anonymous No.15963230]

>>15963217
no!

[Anonymous No.15963231]

>>15963222
you're kidding, that's just too good to be true

[Anonymous No.15963235]

>>15963217
Launch of a new LV is very rare, I think you can deal with it.

[Anonymous No.15963237]

how come they have a retarded crosseyed mutt bitch for an anchor?

[Anonymous No.15963239]

>>15963217
tongue my anus

[Anonymous No.15963240]

now she's talking to an obese chiness faggot

[Anonymous No.15963241]

Anyone know how long until TLI?

[Anonymous No.15963246]

>>15963237
>>15963240
What stream(s) are you watching?

>>15963241
In about ~10 bings

[Anonymous No.15963251]

>>15963246
Thanks anon, I'm sticking around now I know it's not 5 orbits.

[Anonymous No.15963253]

>>15963229
Well can you buy a heavy for the same or cheaper to do that? I guess you might run availability constraints from SpaceX. Especially if you want to expend cores.

[Anonymous No.15963254]

>>15963253
VC is around the same price as a FH, also the Falcon Heavy is limited the Payload attach fitting, so if you wanted to launch bigger payloads you need to rebuild the 2nd stage. There are more design considerations than just $/kg to LEO

[Anonymous No.15963256]

>>15963253
The Vulcan is flying today, who knows how long it'll be until SpaceX has several BFRs and LEO refueling working.

[Anonymous No.15963297]

Does anyone have an idea if ULA is still considering Vulcan Heavy?

[Anonymous No.15963302]

>>15963297
no, she's on a diet
stop forcing your fat fetish on her >:(

[Anonymous No.15963312]

>>15963302
You know I wasn't going to go with that angle, but its just been rumored that Elf-san is getting an anime >>>/a/261560844 so maybe I will.

[Anonymous No.15963322]

>>15963312
Holy guacamole

[Anonymous No.15963334]

Last burn

[Anonymous No.15963338]

spaceX btfo forever

[Anonymous No.15963468]

>>15963123
The last week of February

[Anonymous No.15963546]

>>15962512
Years post covid aren't real so actually just 2 years late

[Anonymous No.15963717]

For a maiden flight, this thread is practically barren. Goes to show that nobody really cares about it

[Anonymous No.15963719]

Well there's not much to say about it until the lander reaches the moon in 6 weeks.

[Anonymous No.15963766]

>>15963719
Six weeks? I thought it was a three-day trip to the moon.

[Anonymous No.15963778]

>>15963766
It'll be reaching lunar orbit in a few days buts its going to be in orbit for a while before it lands.

[Anonymous No.15963797]

>>15963719
>>15963766
>>15963778
I have some bad news anons...

[Anonymous No.15963802]

>>15963797
What? Has Peregrine just now become like the 4th lunar lander to experience a failure in the last 2 years?

[Anonymous No.15963898]

>>15963802
The moon men have a strict border-control policy.

[Anonymous No.15963929]

>>15962932
We're ditching the logo after Cert-2, unless the customer pays for it. Wasted weight

[Anonymous No.15963935]

>>15963052
Correct

[Anonymous No.15963938]

>>15963297
Yes but the designs are premature and very stupid

[Anonymous No.15963949]

we need operation paperclip 2

[Anonymous No.15964013]

We're so back

[Anonymous No.15964074]

it's so over

[Anonymous No.15964075]

>>15963949
it's over
>>15964013
we're back
>>15964074
it's over

[Anonymous No.15964115]

Vulcan Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. Starship is real. You've seen it down at Boca Chica. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Starbase.. I don't see any hardware for a Vulcan Heavy, except that he's going to take three Vulcans and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry.

[Anonymous No.15964121]

>>15964115
>It's not that easy in rocketry
>Literally what SpaceX did with FH

[Anonymous No.15964165]

>>15964074
>not fake
damn you

[Anonymous No.15964263]

>>15964121
Taking this seriously for no particular reason, isn't Musk on record saying FH did indeed turn out to be a lot harder than expected...

[Anonymous No.15964381]

>>15964121
also
>Literally what ULA did with DIVH
>Literally what Khrunichev did with Angara
that's what makes Charlie's remark so funny

[Anonymous No.15964438]

>>15963719
its dead

[Anonymous No.15965299]

>>15964438
>>15964074
>Chandryaan 2 fails for some unspecified reason
>Hakuto-R fails because of the computer misjudging the altitude
>Beresheet fails because of a stuck valve
>Luna-25 fails due to loss of communication and overburning during an orbital maneuver
>Peregrine has a critical fuel leak that cripples the mission
Damn, lunar probes have been eating shit these past few years even with the successes going on

[Anonymous No.15965428]

>>15965299
The moon is a harsh mistress. Luna wants only the boldest and bravest.

[Anonymous No.15965444]

>>15965428
Its funny, given some have already been declaring the mars curse is over given how many successes there have been since the begining of the century, and now there's problems landing probes of the moon.

[Anonymous No.15965451]

>>15965444
it's because the tech used to get to the moon cannot be replicated anymore, get with the times gramps

[Anonymous No.15965514]

Astrobotic removed the Diversity, Equity & Inclusion statement from their website, so it seems likely that they already know who is responsible for the failure and why someone incapable of doing their job was hired.

[Anonymous No.15965638]

>>15965514
Seems a lot less kiked then usual but they still failed

[Anonymous No.15965707]

>>15963949
>>15964013
>>15964074
We don't need paperclip 2, we need to accept the free market isn't the answer to everything and the government and handle long returns on investment better than the market.

[Anonymous No.15965713]

>>15965707
There's nothing inherently wrong with public-private partnerships. That being said NASA shouldn't be leaning so heavily on it, see HLS, because there are cases where there aren't going to be many commercial applications.

[Anonymous No.15965715]

>>15965713
The fundamental issue is the market expects a return, what is the expected ROI for this mission?
If it's under 0% (it is) then using public money is simply funneling funds into an unsustainable private business model.

[Anonymous No.15965773]

>>15965707
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.15965820]

>>15963766
Apollo took ~3 days because it had a big J-2 engine to raise it's apogee all the way out to the moon in one burn. Very important to reduce the life support requirements for the mission.
These little landers we've been sending lately have small low thrust engines, so they have to do multiple acceleration burns over a period of weeks. Efficiency wins over speed when there is no crew onboard.

[Anonymous No.15965826]

>>15965820
TLI for peregrine was done by the Centaur's second stage, its already on its way to the moon, its just that it needed to complete a highly eccentric orbit for it to pass near the moon and then it was going to spend over a month in a highly elliptic orbit before landing

[Anonymous No.15966487]

>>15965299
>Buying from the lowest bidder

[Anonymous No.15967235]

>>15966487
I don't believe Peregrine was the lowest of the contractors that won awards for CLPS. And I don't think Russia, India, Israel, and Japan operate on lowest bidder contracts to the degree it is in the US

[Anonymous No.15967385]

Okay so the mission was a success for the launch vehicle. Does this mean ULA will start cranking out these rockets to take some market share from SpaceX?

[Anonymous No.15967391]

>>15967385
Rockets usually have some contracts before they even fly, Vulcan is no different in that it already has a bunch of NatSex and prject Kuiper payloads.

[Barkun No.15967398]

Stop making these SILLY space threads. Space is nothing buttnerd.

[Anonymous No.15968246]

>>15967385
apart from the contracts they already negotiated, i somewhat doubt they'll be able to take back a share of the commercial market.
ULA has made strides in making their production more efficient, but in the end it's still a disposable rocket and they're not really close to the falcon family's price/performance ratio except in really high energy trajectories which are mostly government launches, the vast majority of commercial launches are LEO to GEO

[Anonymous No.15968546]

>>15965826
So what happens now? It will remain in the eccentric orbit forever or it will pass near the Earth atmosphere close enough and will eventually reenter?

[Anonymous No.15968799]

>>15962257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqv7NedI0oI

Vulcan Cert-1 Rocket Cam

So many views we didn't see during the launch livestream

[Anonymous No.15968813]

>>15968799
nice Earth view at the end of video

[Anonymous No.15968818]

>>15968799
Performance off, but ball park. Understandable since proprietary. Doesn’t quite understand low energy vs high or their architectures. Did not avail large set of public pricing on NSSL P2. Vulcan substantially cheaper, with > than 30% price advantage in high energy:
Solid 6/10

[Anonymous No.15968824]

Valve post https://twitter.com/667e11/status/1745134834052399258

[Anonymous No.15968838]

>>15962927
I want to pull down her reusable shorts and fuck her navel

[Anonymous No.15969337]

>>15968546
They're hoping to repurpose it as a lunar orbiter, the fuel issues the lander is having ruled out going down to the moon, but keeping it in orbit is the best way to partially salvage the mission.

[Anonymous No.15969678]

another billion dollars completely wasted by nasa.
an yet again there will be nobody held responsible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWEnqC1uPu0

[Anonymous No.15970032]

>>15969678
>oooh...
>husbant...
>you spend to much money on space slight
>now we are homeress....

[Anonymous No.15970101]

Are we just gonna let any asshole with enough money dump their junk on the moon now as a fundraiser for NASA? Feels wrong to me, shouldnt the rest of the world get a say?

[Anonymous No.15970117]

Update #12 for Peregrine Mission One

As Peregrine emerges from a planned communications blackout with NASA’s DSN ground network, we’re pleased to announce the team’s efforts to gather payload data have been fruitful. We have successfully received data from all 9 payloads designed to communicate with the lander. All 10 payloads requiring power have received it, while the remaining 10 payloads aboard the spacecraft are passive.

These payloads have now been able to prove operational capability in space and payload teams are analyzing the impact of this development now. We are proud of the mission team for achieving this incredible feat under such challenging circumstances. Below are a list of payloads that have received power:

– (pictured) Iris Lunar Rover from Carnegie Mellon University. At the bottom of the overexposed image sent from Peregrine in space are the Iris rover’s wheels. To its left is a fuel tank with the American flag.
– COLMENA from LINX-UNAM (together with Agencia Espacial Mexicana (AEM))
– M-42 Radiation Detector from the German Aerospace Center (DLR)
– Linear Energy Transfer Spectrometer (LETS) from NASA’s Johnson Space Center
– Near-Infrared Volatile Spectrometer System (NIRVSS) from NASA’s Ames Research Center
– Neutron Spectrometer System (NSS) from NASA’s Ames Research Center
– Peregrine Ion Trap Mass Spectrometer (PITMS) from NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, The Open University (OU), NASA, and the European Space Agency (ESA).
– Pocari Sweat’s Lunar Dream Time Capsule from Astroscale
– Optical Precision Autonomous Landing (OPAL) TRN sensor from Astrobotic
– (a subsystem) Navigation Doppler Lidar (NDL) from NASA’s Langley Research Center

Please stay tuned for more information and a link to a forthcoming media telecon.

[Anonymous No.15971365]

>>15970101
The outer space treaty permits it, the moon is effectively a commons.

[Anonymous No.15972971]

>>15970101
>noooo you can't just litter on the moon!!!
why not? its already a lifeless wasteland, what being hurt?
>noooooo!!! i own the whole universe and you can't do anything to it without my permission!!! its not fair!!!
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

[Anonymous No.15974286]

[Anonymous No.15974663]

>>15974286
its going well

[Anonymous No.15974827]

[Anonymous No.15975637]

>>15974827
>can't even be repurposed as a lunar orbiter
F