Genius Generations

[Anonymous No.15956683]

Is it really common to get generations that achieve this much or is there some determinant that allows for certain lucky individuals to make breakthroughs in several areas at the same time? Was it an environmental factor or just that all the ongoing research happened to pay off at exactly their generation?

[Anonymous No.15956689]

>>15956683
it was just ashkenazim with genetic and intestinal problems who, instead of squandering their talent on muh sexual liberation, read and studied

[Anonymous No.15956707]

>>15956683
>generations
There are two or three generations in that pic. Planck was born in 1858 and Dirac was born in 1902.

They weren't more productive than later generations, but there are two effects that makes you think so:
1) Physics was literally easier then (low hanging fruit)
2) You are not aware of any physics that happened after 1930 since it is too difficult

The generation that got their phds in the 1960s and 1970s was crazy productive and many still are professors.

[Anonymous No.15956723]

The geniuses of their generation had the freedom to explore the fundamentals of the universe. The geniuses of our generation have to fix the damage caused by oil industrials.

[Anonymous No.15956742]

>>15956683
The right place at the right time. Also realize that until very recently it was relatively rare to get an advanced formal education, so we've realized the standing human genetic potential for intelligence, so to speak. To advance science further more mutations are required, which will enter the human population over time.

[Anonymous No.15956777]

>>15956707
What about the current zoom-zoom generations? Are they as productive?

[Anonymous No.15956827]

>>15956683
How can one reach those heights?

[Anonymous No.15956833]

>>15956777
>current zoom-zoom generations
Zoomers aren't old enough to accomplish anything yet. The oldest ones are in grad school. Millennials are the newer professors coming in, and everything they are doing is based on work by this old generation that started work in the 70s.

[Anonymous No.15956903]

>>15956833
And are millenials any good right now?

[Anonymous No.15956912]

>>15956903
We know it's bad, but instead we're trying to replace it with something that just makes us feel better.

[Anonymous No.15956921]

>>15956903
Read the second part of the last sentence you are replying to. I know you kids have a low attention span but it's 3 sentences ffs

[Anonymous No.15956960]

>>15956683
It’s because American culture dominates. Note how few Americans are in that picture. All of Americans best and brightest come from elsewhere.

America is like Rome, a military and economic power, intellectually negligible. If we want the life of the mind to be valued again, we know what needs to be done…

[Anonymous No.15956968]

>>15956683
>Was it an environmental factor or just that all the ongoing research happened to pay off at exactly their generation?

The latter, basically computation and physics had a lot work being done for thousands of years. The idea of the atomic world, work on binary systems and those binary systems, the philosophy of reality being nondualistic were all ideas worked on since antiquity.

None of these could have come to fruition earlier without specific technological thresholds being met. Democritus in 400bc ancient Greece had no access to the tech that Albert Einstein and Jean Perrin had in 1908ad to verify particle motion by utilizing ultramicroscope. Which utimately came about because of Antonie van Leeuwenhoek work on higher resolution magnification in 1673ad.

[Anonymous No.15956987]

>>15956960
Just by its very nature a nation of immigrants/colonials can't surpass their original nations in terms of intellectual development. Similarly Rome was originally founded by Greek colonies.

[Anonymous No.15957100]

>>15956987
Rome was not initially founded by Greek colonies you fucking nitwit. There’s a reason /pol/tards like you have such a cartoonish idea of history in their heads: because you’re mentally children.

[Anonymous No.15957154]

>>15957100
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Graecia

Yes it was commie

[Anonymous No.15957207]

>>15956777
Depending on the what the zoomer cutoff is they're in their late 20s at their oldest and would be still be finishing their PhDs.

>>15957154
>can't even read the wikipedia article he posted
Rome was founded in the Latium and was surrounded by Etruscans, it wasn't a Greek colony in the south of the penninsula.

[Anonymous No.15957246]

>>15957207
Read more commie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demaratus_of_Corinth

[Anonymous No.15957262]

>>15957246
Listen if we're going by Rome's founding myth and the legends about the old Etruscan monarchy, Romulus and Remus were descendants of Aeneas and the first Romans from Alba Longa. Regardless this is an irrelevant argument even if true because, not only was Greek science was already stagnating before Rome became a major power, America still dominates research in the natural sciences going off the nature index, even if the Chinese are starting to catching up.

[Anonymous No.15957306]

>>15957262
Nah I'm going by the sensible notion that Rome was between Etruscans and Greeks, and that it inherited from both. So fair enough to say Greeks founded it along with the natives. We know very little about Etruscans, so the Greek share is noticeably larger. On the Magna Graecia link you can see how close Naples, Cumae, Pithecusae is to Rome. Romans had the Euboean Greek alphabet, the hoplite(yes, before the legionnaire), the weights and measures, the temples. It was Graeco-Roman from the start. Had Greece not reached Rome this deeply it simply wouldn't have existed. It's Greek-style Republic starts as the last Etruscan degenerate king is kicked out and Rome starts conquering back. All these good genes are responsible for this. And let's see what sort of inferior melting pot multicult non-founding genes destroyed Rome, pic related.

[Anonymous No.15957466]

>>15957154
This. We all know the real brains were the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.15957664]

>>15956683
At the time of their generation discoveries hadn't been made. They lived during a period where new discoveries around physics and space constantly being found.

We have pretty much discovered all that we can for now, we won't get another generation like this again unless we discove>>15956683
r some new science.

[Anonymous No.15957676]

>>15957246
>read more commie
>a Greek married a Roman princess

Please consider killing yourself

[Anonymous No.15957680]

>>15956689
There's like 5 jews out of 29 there.

[Anonymous No.15957685]

>>15957262
America will be made irrelevant quickly. Its culture does not place value on the beauty of math or the nobility of philosophy. It values strength and hard work. These are good values, but they are also values that nurture a hatred and distrust of intellectuals, because hard work alone cannot build an intellectual culture.

America is falling prey to its worst impulses. Dismantling education to reward its most hardworking and obedient children instead while measuring its academics by publication number.

>>15957306
You or the guy above said it was founded by Greeks. This is plainly false. It benefitted from contact with Greeks. America in the late 19th and early 20th century benefitted from contact with German culture. This doesn’t mean it was or is founded by Germans.

[Anonymous No.15957690]

>>15957680
The 1927 Solvay conference being 17.2% [math]\mathbb{PHENOTYPE}[/math] is still a good showing.

[Anonymous No.15957712]

>>15956921
The last sentence doesn't indicate if they are working as hard or good as the previous generations, it just says they are continuing older work.

[Anonymous No.15957720]

>>15956723
These scientists don't get the respect they deserve.

[Anonymous No.15958100]

>>15957720
What are they achieving?
>>15956683
How can one become as cool as they?

[Anonymous No.15958115]

>>15957690
That's true.
Still 83% gentile; could do without the baggage they bring.

[Anonymous No.15958133]

academia is a failed environment and progress won't happen until all of the current gatekeepers die off
that's what it comes down to

[Anonymous No.15958136]

>>15956742
They didn't have a publish or perish culture in academia. The market wasn't oversaturated. I remember a paper published in nature a year ago tracking the number of "disruptive*" papers published in all science. The number has remained roughly stagnant over time. Meanwhile the rate of all publications being disruptive has dramatically dropped. The conclusion is rather obvious: there's a lot of bullshit being published.

*A disruptive paper was defined (paraphrasing here) as a paper that stole citations from previous work, indicating a paradigm shift.

[Anonymous No.15958177]

>>15958133
What is your vision of a productive academy, anon?

[Anonymous No.15958180]

>>15956683
>Was it an environmental factor
Peak lead in diet, it might have already been diminishing at that point.

[Anonymous No.15958187]

>>15958136
>A disruptive paper was defined (paraphrasing here) as a paper that stole citations from previous work, indicating a paradigm shift.
No, the other way round. A disruptive paper is one that when people cite it, they rarely cite the papers it itself cited.

[Anonymous No.15958189]

>>15958187
Reading comprehension issue? Do you not know what steal means? Instead of citing previous papers, it cites the new one.

[Anonymous No.15958284]

>>15958189
I'm ESL, but I'm pretty sure that it's bizarre wording on your part.

[Anonymous No.15958289]

>>15958284
What's your first language?

[Anonymous No.15958310]

>>15958289
Swahili

[Anonymous No.15958459]

>>15956683
I'm a 32 years old researcher doing it on my own in a third world shithole. What are the odds I could reach these geniuses?

[Anonymous No.15958473]

>>15958310
Can y'all take the niggers from the US back please? I hate em so much.

[Anonymous No.15958489]

>>15958459
Zero, even if your IQ is higher there's no way to gain recognition and acclaim in the same way these persons did so; that was a quirk of their time.

[Anonymous No.15958511]

>>15958489
Why not? And what would be my best bet, go become a glowie in one of the three letter agencies?

[Anonymous No.15958514]

>>15958459
>>15958489
Part of the reason is that big landmark research papers nowadays have multiple if not dozens of authors, so standing out as a sole genius when everyone's knowledge is so specialized is incredibly difficult.

[Anonymous No.15958519]

>>15958511
Figure out how to destroy cancerous cells without harming healthy cells.

[Anonymous No.15958639]

>>15958519
Can I achieve that with an EE degree?

[Anonymous No.15958715]

>>15958639
No

[Anonymous No.15958743]

Anon i can not speak about science. However i can speak about tech. People want to insist some stuff ought not to be done. Ill give an example. Robot legs. Now there are robot legs out there so it is possible but it ought not be done. They also assume the robot legs must he for walking. Now hold on a minute. Just because its legs doesnt mean it has to be for walking. I say what is the goal? If the goal is a sex bot it has to have legs. Now youre not going to come here and come up with a wheel chair design and saying we ought to use that instead of legs for a sex bot mr. People also say theyd rather make a virtual sex bot because making a regular sex bot is impossible. I am here to call you out.

[Anonymous No.15958779]

>>15958519
Use placebo

[Anonymous No.15958891]

>>15958779
Does that work?

[Anonymous No.15958910]

>>15958639

[Anonymous No.15958915]

>>15958639
>Homosexual has to make everything about himself

[Anonymous No.15958938]

>>15958915
What does that have to do with research?

[Anonymous No.15958945]

>>15958938
It was a joke not a dick, don't take it so hard. Though if you're the aforementioned EE it may already be too late for that.

[Anonymous No.15958955]

>>15958891
Afraid so

[Anonymous No.15958963]

>>15958938
Okay anon, what kind of research are you interested in? I'll get us started saying I'm quite interested in neuropsychiatry, or looking into the actual biological mechanisms of psychiatric maladies instead of pumping people full of shitty drugs.

[Anonymous No.15959105]

>>15957676
What is your point stupid faggot

[Anonymous No.15959141]

>>15958963
How about neurocircuitry to fix the mental diseases?

[Anonymous No.15959160]

>>15959141
Expand on that.

[Anonymous No.15959977]

>>15959160
Build a circuit that fixes whatever disease you have. Expanded enough?

[Anonymous No.15960007]

My best guess is that every generations has its geniuses. We just get the impression that former generations were smarter because of over-specialization.

Take Gauss for example. He studied linear algebra, calculus, statistics, optics and complex analysis. Aren't there any people in the modern age that are as smart as Gauss? Of course there are, but they will likely spend their entire academic career studying a specific topic of a specific area of a given science, and so it is harder to get recognition as a "genius".

A similar thing happens to Einstein, despite him being closer to us than Gauss in chronolgy. He started his career studying Brownian motion and developing a formula to approximate the volume of molecules; a very hard and very important research. However, he's mostly remembered for his works on Relativity and the Photoelectric Effect. If Einstein lived in our age of specialization, maybe he would spend his entire career studying physical statistics, a very important field but that generally gets less attention from the public, and thus it would be harder for him to get recognized as a genius.

[Anonymous No.15960049]

>>15959977
Lmfao no. By what mechanism of cellular action can the circuit be a cure all? At least a vague idea.

[Anonymous No.15960183]

>>15960049
Better than what that grifter De Grey has made

[Anonymous No.15960271]

>>15956683
Of those only Einstein is relevant. He's like the Neil De Grasse Tyson of their generation. Was that because of his (((roots)))? Or he knew how to milk the propaganda machine?

[Anonymous No.15960281]

>>15960271
>He's like the Neil De Grasse Tyson

[Anonymous No.15960333]

>>15960281
Pop scientists make me SICK

[Anonymous No.15960357]

>>15960281
>>15960333
That's exactly what Einstein was. People don't even understand what relativity is.

[Anonymous No.15960547]

>>15956683
Who was the greatest mind among that group?

[Anonymous No.15960625]

>>15960547
Curie no contest

[Anonymous No.15960752]

>>15960625
I'd say Schrödinger

[Anonymous No.15960767]

>>15960357
>People don't even understand what relativity is.
I see no difference between e=mc^2 and picrel

[Anonymous No.15960777]

>>15960547
schrodinger

[Anonymous No.15960789]

>>15960777
Schrödinger > Einsten
yeah right, kek

[Anonymous No.15961068]

>>15960767
This feels basically the same

[Anonymous No.15961080]

>>15960625
I waa going through each one of them and came to Curie as well, although all of them combined don't hold a candle to Pasteur's generation.

[Anonymous No.15961095]

>>15961080
Pasteur is really on another level. First it was Physics, then Electronics and Transistors, then Math. Right now is the age of AI, but what will come after?

[Anonymous No.15961125]

>>15961095
I think energy is next big scientific boom anon. Imagine if we can finally harness the power of the sun and fuse hydrogen into helium on a small scale? It won't stop there. How does a star create heavy elements? It begins fusing helium. The potential to create is boundless with fusion.

[Anonymous No.15961140]

>>15961125
So...Physics again? How about biotech?

[Anonymous No.15961144]

>>15961140
>So...Physics again?
Lol yeah. Biotech is bound to physics and chemistry, as it always has been in the history of science. For every discovery in those two fields, medical science makes bounds.

[Anonymous No.15961209]

>>15961144
How about genetics?

[Anonymous No.15961316]

>>15961209
It hasn't achieved anything in years

[Anonymous No.15961331]

given that einstein was a plagiarist as well as a communist, a pedophile and involved himself in incest and knowing that schrodinger was also a pedophile and that curie was a talentless whore, is it pretty safe to presume that everyone else in that pic was just as much of a noxious toxic sleaze as einstein, curie & schrodinger?
did any of them ever produce anything of useful worth in their careers or did they all only devote their career to naming constants and equations after themselves?

[Anonymous No.15961466]

>>15960752
Dirac single handedly unified special relativity, quantum mechanics and electro-magetism with one equation. I'd give it to him.

[Anonymous No.15961471]

>>15961125
>Imagine if we can finally harness the power of the sun
Yeah that'd be crazy, huh? I sure hope fossil fuel lobbyists don't pay politicians to undermine such projects.

[Anonymous No.15961730]

>>15961331
Gauss definitely did. He's the most capable man out there. I'm just curious how Einstein managed to become so famous.

[Anonymous No.15961735]

>>15961125
>fuse
is there a theoretical minimum size a fusion reactor can be, based on current designs and what is known so far? can there be a small one like 1kW or smth?

[Anonymous No.15961792]

>>15956683
It was a reneissance of human culture. These people would be burned at the stake for being heretics in other ages. In fact many of them were prosecuted by errant bullshit cultures of abuse and tyranny (throwbacks ot the dark ages, empires, czars and whatnot)

>>15958100
Same as OPs pic. They are taking the flame of truth to the sullen, retarded masses despite the consequences.

[Anonymous No.15961795]

>>15961080
Pasteur's generation does mog Einstein's for sure

[Anonymous No.15961803]

>>15956723 sum of IQ is less than mean in >>15956683

[Anonymous No.15962033]

>>15961795
Any pictures of their generation?

[Anonymous No.15962238]

>>15956683
How did they achieve this much?

[Anonymous No.15962405]

>>15962238
They didn't have a group stopping them