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Only 1 in 5 people believe in Darwinian evolution, the overwhelming majority of people believe mankind was created by God.
If you blindly trusted everything you see in the media you'd probably have the opposite impression and presume that belief in God was minority belief so this poll reveals how slanted the media is towards atheism when covering scientific topics

>> No.15947046

>>15947026
That just means 4 out of 5 people are retarded

>> No.15947209

>>15947046
>That just means 4 out of 5 people are retarded
Exactly lmao

>> No.15947220

"Man developed, with God guiding" is still Darwinian. Even darwin was theist. God guiding can mean many things. 55%.

>> No.15947228

>>15947026
Darwinism is bullshit, I am looking toward a neo theory of evolution.
Fucking piece of shit basedentists claim they've solved everything. KYS.
>>15947220
Most scientist at the time was theists.
The new breeds of basedentist lies and cheat for money cause they don't believe in a god punish them doing so.

>> No.15948196

>>15947220
No it isn't. Darwinian evolution is atheistic dogma, its in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Protocol #2, section 2

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>>15947026
>If you blindly trusted everything you see in the media you'd probably have the opposite impression and presume that belief in God was minority belief so this poll reveals how slanted the media is towards atheism when covering scientific topics
Correct. part of the covid scam that a lot of people never talked about was that it was intended to separate and isolate people ("atomize" is the terminology globohomos prefer to use) so that their only outside influences would be the globohomos media. By accomplishing that they're able to completely lie about what public opinion really is and theres no way for anyone to figure out that their version of public opinion is all a big lie. Thats how they were able to convince millions of people (although not nearly as many as they claim) to willingly become human test subjects for an untested experimental medication of an entirely new variety. They just used the media to circulate the rumor that "everyone is doing it" and all of the herd mentality non-thinking NPCs went along with it and volunteered to become experimental test subjects without compensation.
Back in the old days the pharma companies has to pay people to test experimental drugs on them, but that is no longer the case because they can just use their media influence to get what they want out of the atomized people because those people have no friends or family who can or will talk the isolated NPCs out of their bad decisions.

>> No.15948773

I can see animals adapting to their environment but abiogenesis to mammals? i dunno man

>> No.15948836

Darwinian evolution is mathematically impossible. There haven't been remotely enough generations of life on earth for an amoeba to transform into a human purely through random gene flipping.

>> No.15949695

>>15948836
This, the timeframe required is 50 orders of magnitude greater than the age of the universe

>> No.15949721

>>15947026
>Only 1 in 5 people believe in Darwinian evolution, the overwhelming majority of people believe mankind was created by God.
Where? This is the internet, not your national imageboard.

>> No.15950132 [DELETED] 

>>15949721
Your insane belief in magical abiogenesis is a small tiny minority viewpoint regardless the fact the CNN and the rest of the globohomo media you consume tries to make it seem far more prevalent than it is. The overwhelming majority of the people on the planet do not believe in it. Furthermore, even the math and science in that field says that it isn't possible. Darwinian evolution is a strange and irrational superstition

>> No.15951121

>>15950132
>Darwinian evolution is a strange and irrational superstition
this, only total retards believe in darwin

>> No.15951150

>>15950132
Darwinian evolution says nothing about abiogenesis. Evolution can be proven in real time via antibiotic resistance, phage display, etc.

>> No.15951153

>>15951150
You are talking about natural selection in artificial environments, particularly selection pressures. This is not evolution. And does not necessarily make an evolved entity.

>> No.15951178

>>15951153
Define "artificial"
>And does not necessarily make an evolved entity.
By definition it does. It doesn't mean superior/more advanced.

>> No.15951182

>>15947026
>>15947046
Somehow population reduction through vaccines, cancers etc doesn't seem so bad anymore

>> No.15951949 [DELETED] 

>>15951150
>antibiotic resistance
thats just a meme that was invented to sell newer, more expensive antibiotic drugs which are still under patent. penicillin works just as good now as it did in the 1930, its still prescribed regularly

>> No.15952316

>>15947026
Evolution is unproven

>> No.15952322

>>15947220
No, darwinian is survival of the fittest, not guided.

>> No.15953592

>>15952316
Darwinian evolution has been disproved many times, but instead of accepting that the great god of soience is fallible, academia always just cancels the guy who figured out that Darwin was wrong.

>> No.15953612

>>15948773
If you could count at 1 year per second, the time it would take to count from the earliest life to the present day would be 3,700,000 seconds, which comes out to 117 years.
I have disdain for small-brains who can’t comprehend how huge a billion really is

>> No.15953616

>>15953592
>Darwinian evolution has been disproved many times
I guess I didn't get the memo.
Please explain why retards like you are spreading like some kind of ghastly blight.

>> No.15953675

>>15952322
God can guide natural selection and mutation, it's just not a scientific hypothesis because that wouldn't follow methodological naturalism.

>> No.15953684

>>15953616
It's the "ingroup with secret knowledge vs brainwashed outgroup" trope. Life is a fucking anime for these poor saps.

>> No.15953691

>>15953675
The whole point of natural selection is that it is random. Genetic variation radiates in all directions and depending on the circumstances at the moment they may be beneficial adaptations, detrimental, or neither. If there is some “guiding” force then it’s not a biological process, it’s creationism trying to cope with the realisation that magicking the world into existence in 7 days is retarded

>> No.15953701

>>15947046
>>15947209
>t. retarded

>> No.15953746

>>15953616
Its you, and everyone like you, who is to blame. Your type willingly let these retards breed. Instead of seizing political power and enacting laws that discouraged the proliferation of retards you sealed yourself off, either to make money or to work on your research.
If your type had any sense we would have had tax breaks, laws, and social mechanisms enacted to increase the number of children produced by educated and intelligent people. The production of children would have been restricted by the need to prove worthiness as parents, with economic boosts given to those with the most capable traits, while at the same time severely restricting or even prohibiting children from unstable, willfully ignorant, and stupid people. Instead the very opposite happened and that is how we got where we are now.

>> No.15953774

>>15947026
This is why science is not a democracy and why populism always seeks to discredit authority. The media should report the truth, not what people want to believe.

>> No.15953858

>>15953774
>science is not a democracy
but also
>the scientific consensus…

>> No.15953894

>>15953858
Note that "scientific consensus" is quite different from "popular consensus"

>> No.15953926

>>15953691
Whether it's "random" or not is not a testable, falsifiable scientific hypothesis.

>> No.15953951

>>15953894
Both are manufactured instead of emergent you globohomo.

>> No.15953969

>>15953951
See? Always trying to discredit authority.

>> No.15953973

>>15953691
bot post
>>15953926
actual thinking human

>> No.15953989

>>15953969
>authority
What does that word even mean? If a narrative is clearly more valid, reliable, accurate and useful then no power is needed to enforce it.

>> No.15954002

>>15953989
That is a comforting lie people love to tell themselves. Validity, reliability, and accuracy are very often at odds with "usefulness", which is always relative to someone's needs, and often opposed to someone else's. And yet it is usefulness that is usually the decisive criterion, with the other three being at most welcome circumstances.

>> No.15954292

>>15954002
>Validity, reliability, and accuracy are very often at odds with "usefulness"
On the contrary. It's exactly because usefulness is the decisive criterion that people manufacture frames of reference in which the useful consensus appears to be the most valid, reliable and accurate.

>> No.15954904

>>15953926
>>15953973
No, “it’s actually an invisible magic man who was inexplicably extremely talkative 3000 years ago but now conveniently expects people to believe in him on faith” is not a testable hypothesis

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>>15954904
>he doesn't know

>> No.15955057

>>15953691
>The whole point of natural selection is that it is random.
being a 'selection' it is by definition not random.

>> No.15955069

>>15954967
Oh you’ve found another magic book to believe in? Fantastic.

>> No.15955074

>>15955057
I know you’re not retarded mouth to actually make a semantic argument here. It doesn’t even make any sense, roll dice and a number will be “selected” randomly.

>> No.15955698

>>15953616
Darwinian evolution has been disproved many times
Warwick Collins disproved it in the 1970s and his reward for that was getting kicked out of his PhD program. Collins was so high IQ that regardless his education having been cut short, he still went on to have substantial success as a designer of hulls and as an author. The people who kicked him out of academia for blaspheming St. Darwin meanwhile went on to produce nothing of any value with their careers.
Darwinism is just atheistic dogma, it has no relationship to science

>> No.15955727

>>15955698
>this guy you’ve never heard of was a genius!!!! When he didn’t get his PhD in biology he uh… design hulls…? And wrote books you’ve also never heard of…?
Compelling.
>look him up
>didn’t actually “disprove” Darwinian evolution
>quoted Darwin in the basis for his research
>also wasn’t kicked off his PhD
>quit academia because his supervisor wouldn’t support his research proposal
Anything else you feel like lying about?

>> No.15957261

>>15955698
Yep, the Warwick Collins case pretty much proves that Darwinism is just atheistic soiyence dogma

>> No.15957389

>>15957261
>one case of a supervisor at a shit university with bad ideas proves science is fucked!!!
Is that why his Wikipedia doesn’t have even a single source for that entire section of his life? Not even a fucking interview with the man himself?
Idk, when your whole opinion hinges on one person’s side of a story that isn’t even attributed to that person themselves, maybe you’re a fucking moron

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>>15957389
> Wikipedia
you're admitting that you have no idea what you're talking about

>> No.15957524

>>15957420
Yeah, Wikipedia. Point being that it’s in someone’s interest to enforce this narrative about this guy, and they don’t even seem to know how to cite sources.
It makes anything you say look desperate.

>> No.15958935

>>15953774
>The media should report the truth,
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
yet you chimp out when the media reports that nobody except a tiny minority believes in your darwinian fairy stories

>> No.15959543

>>15948196
>DESTRUCTIVE EDUCATION
>Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty words: think carefully of the successes we arranged for Darwinism, Marxism, Nietzsche-ism. To us Jews, at any rate, it should be plain to see what a disintegrating importance these directives have had upon the minds of the GOYIM.

>> No.15959555

>>15948836
thatll be your little secret.

>> No.15959773

>>15948836
Good thing random gene flipping isn't the only way mutations happen, then.

>> No.15961018

>>15949695
People who can't do math aren't able to understand that, so the believe in evolution on the basis of Dunning-Krugerist ignorance

>> No.15961463

>>15961018
right, the proportion of that minuscule fraction which believes in evolution that also has earned an advanced enough degree of education in biology is a vanishingly tiny number of people. nearly all of the people who believe in evolution do so on the basis of having learned about it from the bill nye tv show

>> No.15961637

>>15961463
are you joking or are you just that stupid

>> No.15961640

>>15948836
>Darwinian evolution is mathematically impossible.
What's your possible alternative explanation, mathematically and otherwise?

>> No.15962382

>>15948836
That's why in the kitsmiller v dover case the Christian judge ruled that evolution was science and the alternative proposed was religious dogma not meant to ever be in a school system.

>> No.15962391

>>15962382
>>>/pol/

>> No.15962482

>>15962391
>Christian man exposes charlatans
>NOOO THAT'S POLITICAL!!!
telling on yourself.

>> No.15962498

>>15947026
>God had no part
>God guided
Why is this relevant?

>> No.15962501

>>15948836
There's been enough generations to bring a brainlet like you to existence though.

>> No.15962686

>>15947026
Imagine believing humans came from apes
Pants on head retarded

>> No.15964341 [DELETED] 

>>15962498
The overwhelming majority of people know that the Darwinian evolution meme is a hoax

>> No.15964518

>>15947026
Whatever is the closest thing out there to God probably had an influence as opposed to existing completely apart, or so people would like to believe. As such, those are some highly loaded options.

>> No.15964584

>>15947026
that poll doesn't actually tell us much about what percentage of the population believes in darwinian evolution. at best you can take 100-(option 3) as an upper bound, but even that runs into edge cases like people who think darwinian evolution is true except for humans.
both 1 and 2 are compatible with belief in darwinian evolution (and neither option uniquely picks out darwinian evolution, they're both compatible with, say, lamarckism).

>> No.15964594 [DELETED] 

>>15964584
your atheistic soiyence theology is an unpopular fringe belief

>> No.15964632

>>15964594
the most common form of non-darwinism is a kind of vulgar lysenkoism, not creationism (and lots of those people mistakenly think themselves to be darwinists)

>> No.15964682

God sets all the initial conditions so there's no reason why it can't be completely Darwinian and completely God-controlled. Stop telling God what to do.

>> No.15965026

>>15947026
>>15947046
>>15953616
imagine replying to bots

>> No.15965522 [DELETED] 

>>15964682
if god sets the initial conditions then god also sets all subsequent conditions

>> No.15965544

>>15953989
Completely wrong.
Paradigm shifts especially don't naturally happen on their own just because someone posted evidence contrary to the status quo.

>> No.15965557

>>15947046
OP BTFO

>> No.15965566

>>15948836
Good thing that natural selection it isn't random

>> No.15965595

>>15947026
That just means 4 out of 5 people are based.

>> No.15965628

>>15965595
Based on religion rather than science? Seems like it.

>> No.15965648

>>15953675
Natural selection is unguided by definition.

>> No.15965654

>>15953969
The "authorities" discredit themselves. If they were true authorities, they would give accurate information.

>> No.15965656

>>15965654
If they were true authorities, they'd use their authority to silence dissidents. However, they appear to just be scientists, not some members of an evil cabal.

>> No.15965776 [DELETED] 

>>15965628
soiyence is your religion tho, you have no rational reason to believe in darwinism because there are none, its a superstition you learned from your soiyentism religious textbooks and preachers

>> No.15966031

>>15965776
People are only able to do science on a rational basis if they already have a separate religion they believe in to ground them in reality, if they don't have that then science becomes the religion and you end up with mentally ill circular reasoning ruling over everything

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>>15953969

>> No.15968937

>>15966031
tsmt
"science is true because science says so" is just the lame circular reasoning of a gnostic religion

>> No.15968988

>>15947228
>The new breeds of basedentist lies and cheat for money cause they don't believe in a god punish them doing so.
>implying he doesn't do good because he has basic empathy but because he's afraid of punishment
you're either 5 or a psychopath, or both.