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/sfg/ - Spaceflight General Anonymous Wed Dec 27 10:43:21 2023 No.15942847 [Reply] [Original]

Chinese Ingenuity Edition

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>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 10:48:19 2023 No.15942850 File: 493 KB, 796x504, SpaceX_Pink_Wojak_AAAAAA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] NEXT BOOSTER STATIC FIRE WHEEEEENNNN

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 10:52:24 2023 No.15942857 >3rd simultaneous thread delete this

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 10:56:09 2023 No.15942862
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>>15942857
Last one was at page 10. The other fraudulent /sfg/ has been left up for a week now and as thus is not considered a true /sfg/ if jannies are unwilling to delete it. We have already had like 4-5 other threads that follow this exact same pattern, its not new and will probably continue until the fake /sfg/ hits bump limit and finally dies. Also last thread stage has proof I did it at page 10 here it is again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 11:10:20 2023 No.15942872 >>15942850 never not after the last accident

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 11:38:18 2023 No.15942893 ScamX lost (B1058 KEEEEEEEEK)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 12:23:19 2023 No.15942911 >>15942847 the fuck is going on in that picture? Is it another chink booster that crashed on a rural chinese village?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 12:28:25 2023 No.15942914 >>15942911 Ahyup thats exactly what happened. Gotta love chinks and their 'rocketry'

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 12:34:40 2023 No.15942918 >>15942862 ok, schizo

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 12:45:24 2023 No.15942921 >>15942911 Based free market chinks, refusing to infringe on the people's right to live in an active testing range.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 12:53:29 2023 No.15942930 >>15942921 Ill squash you under my boot wumao chinksect

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 13:03:31 2023 No.15942937
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>>15942914
>>15942921
>Be rural chinese farmer
>dont have much, but you have a roof over your head and the local corrupt CCP party member aka your overlord let's you use a plot of his land to farm on (he owns everything here, but i can farm if i give 90% of my produce to him)
>one day a massive cylinder slams in to town and kills half the town, those that survive breath in the hypergolic propellant fumes and die a slow death.
>you and the others object against this injustice
>the local CCP party member hires goons to intimidate you.
>you still push forward, your social credit score goes in the negative and you get arrested and send for "reducation" to one of the many prison camps
>some rich CCP party member needs a new kidney, and you are a match.
>they execute you for a bunch of fake charges and harvest your organs.
Such is life in china.
China will grow larger!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 13:07:04 2023 No.15942942 >>15942937 hydrazine isn't that dangerous

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 13:08:00 2023 No.15942945 >>15942937 this is honestly a good thing FUCK peasants they aren't needed anymore

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 13:40:41 2023 No.15942963 >>15942942 It's a carcinogen, a nerve agent, causes chemical burns on contact with the skin or other tissues. It's fast acting, and has an oral LD50 of 60 mg/kg.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 14:13:27 2023 No.15942996 File: 9 KB, 223x226, 11215151656153.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > genuinely feel more sad about B1058 than any children in gaza have I gone completely schizo ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 14:39:39 2023 No.15943020 >>15942996 rocket hardware is worth more than 2 sandnigger states fighting it out in the desert.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 15:38:23 2023 No.15943056 >>15942996 Why would you care about Palestinians? Their rocketry skills are terrible.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 15:45:15 2023 No.15943070 >>15942996 I didnt care that much but then found out it was BobnDug's booster :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 15:49:55 2023 No.15943082 >>15942996 I recommend an hydrazine shower to clear your thoughts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 15:50:39 2023 No.15943085 File: 14 KB, 370x433, fangoy soy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15942996 >> genuinely feel more sad about B1058 than any children in gaza >have I gone completely schizo ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 15:51:51 2023 No.15943088 >>15942996 israel gave us the first kinetic action in space

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 16:34:28 2023 No.15943130 >>15942996 B1058 has actually directly impacted your life(it has launched SO much shit) children in gaza will impact nothing

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 16:37:05 2023 No.15943136 >>15943130 >>15942996 >(it has launched SO much shit) reminder that it launched transporter 1 AND 3

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 16:46:36 2023 No.15943143 looked out at the moon while taking a piss tonight, it saddens me that a human has never stepped foot on it while i have been alive i hope artemis 3 doesn't get delayed much more

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 17:13:03 2023 No.15943164 >>15943130 except the ground lol >splat

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 17:39:23 2023 No.15943183 >>15943143 Jew

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 17:40:48 2023 No.15943185 https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20231227/k10014301921000.html Mark your calendars: H3 test flight No. 2 is scheduled for February 15th.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 17:44:20 2023 No.15943187 >>15943183 wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUVYjzvZzjs

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 17:48:56 2023 No.15943192 Real thread: >>15934505 >>15934505 >>15934505

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 17:50:40 2023 No.15943194 >>15943192 No. And you know its not true. Just keep your thread to yourselves, we're not rejoining even after a week of it being up. We've had like 5 threads in our chain by now yours hasnt even passed 125 posts. Keep to yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 17:51:53 2023 No.15943196 >15943192 >no a new ip You're upset but that doesn't mean you have to keep posting in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 17:57:36 2023 No.15943203 i blame the mods for not doing their fucking job.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 18:01:11 2023 No.15943208 >>15943203 Janny has been on but just refuses to delete either thread for whatever reason. He hasnt been doing his job nearly as much of well as of late.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 18:09:00 2023 No.15943219 https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1740071294765285653 Coming this Thursday. Tower 2 arriving at local port.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 18:38:14 2023 No.15943250 Good wumao hate thread, we need more of these along with zigger spaceflight hate threads

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 18:51:27 2023 No.15943262 >>15943250 the fact we aren't using starships to reusably bomb moscow is a crime

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 18:55:56 2023 No.15943265 >>15942996 Because you've invested years into this shithole and not that shithole. You're emotionally attached to here not there. It all comes down to how you've spent your time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 19:21:34 2023 No.15943282 Emotions are gay

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 19:32:58 2023 No.15943292 once you reach the peak of your spaceflight you'll have done nothing but add another fleet to my collection - foolish humans.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 19:51:44 2023 No.15943312 >>15943208 Dock his pay

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:05:25 2023 No.15943329 File: 2.87 MB, 2300x2280, attack of the clones.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who will land an orbital rocket next? China? BO?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:07:41 2023 No.15943334 >>15943329 >BO KEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:17:30 2023 No.15943345 >>15943334 New Glenn is real. You've seen it down at Kennedy. We're building the first stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand in West Texas.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:18:41 2023 No.15943346 >>15943329 >6 (six) companies with Falcon/FH clones what the fuck is china doing man

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:20:46 2023 No.15943351 >>15943346 More than six. I know Landspace is working on a F9 clone Zhuque 3. There's probably more but I can't keep any of the others straight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:24:35 2023 No.15943358 >>15943192 haha you're such a pathetic loser, still advertizing when nobody cares about your gay ass split thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:26:46 2023 No.15943361 India also apparently started working on a falcon 9 clone

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:30:37 2023 No.15943367 >>15943361 Everyone is making F9 clones and its already severly outdated tech lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:33:35 2023 No.15943370 File: 113 KB, 659x872, 008593.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/DrWhitmanCobb/status/1739712522750431520

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:33:41 2023 No.15943371 >>15943346 China is doing what china does best, steal everything they can get their hands on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:37:49 2023 No.15943379 >>15943371 I knew China stole shit I'm just a bit surprised as to the extent of the stealing and lack of creativity they have. truly bug people its fascinating

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:38:27 2023 No.15943380

>>15943361
Japan's Interstellar Technology is working on Zero, but that's a Falcon 9 with Neutron characteristics that's sized to be a smallsat launcher. Europe's Maiaspace (a subdivision of Arianespace) is working on Maia, but that's also a small launcher and it's not going to even try to be done before 2026. Then there's Russia that put out a powerpoint of their Amur which isn't going to even pretend to be ready before 2028.

>>15943346
China's independent companies are what Beijing uses to keep enthusiasm up with the new generation of hires while testing new technology in a way that doesn't risk the prestige of the gerontocratic core of their space program.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 20:59:21 2023 No.15943414 Japan to land the SLIM on the moon, what a glorious moment. I wish that my country could send lunar probes too instead of fucking up with the economy, sure sending a lunar probe would still fuck up with our economy but at least it would be cool.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 21:01:31 2023 No.15943420 File: 47 KB, 686x299, 008595.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 21:02:19 2023 No.15943421 >>15943370 Am I retarded or did they just discover that knowing about commercial space exploration correlates with support for commercial space exploration? Truly this is groundbreaking work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 21:05:51 2023 No.15943426 >>15943421 no, the point is that the public knows little to nothing about spaceflight

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 21:09:23 2023 No.15943432

>>15943426
Goyim News Network and all the other mainstream media havent cared since the shuttle, the only recent articles that the public sees are those of Felongated Huskrat fails again because they need to trash on everything he does as much as possible since he disagrees with them. Its all just petty squables that prevent humanity from actually going interplanetary. We couldve done it decades ago if the fucking media actually gave a shit and told the goycattle to actually care about something this significant.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 21:16:47 2023 No.15943440 >>15943432 >We couldve done it decades ago if the fucking media actually gave a shit anon you know why they dont give a shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 21:19:15 2023 No.15943444 after there is a clear profit incentive, people will start to care more that might take a while, but a parallel market will probably be created in space/mars

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 21:21:22 2023 No.15943450 >>15943444 The only group that needs to care are companies and investors, normalfags can fuck off. Think, who cares about ships or planes aside from a bunch of spotting autists? Yet, they're vital for our economy.

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 21:27:49 2023 No.15943460

When will Blue Origin ever launch its first orbital mission? Surely not in 2024 since the new glenn hasn't even been built yet and there is no way they are going to assemble, test and send a rocket on the orbit of mars in the span of a single year; especially for the fact that BO never reached earth orbit before.
So much potential wasted, sad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 21:46:57 2023 No.15943491 >>15943460 Bezos said 2024 definitely but he wasn't sure it was gonna carry ESCAPADE

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:18:43 2023 No.15943512 What celestial object will be the first to have a transwoman on it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:18:44 2023 No.15943513 https://twitter.com/VickiCocks15/status/1740127851540512809 Falcon Heavy raised on the pad once more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:21:29 2023 No.15943515 >>15943312 __ ____ __ ___ ____

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:24:10 2023 No.15943520 >>15943460 launching in 2024 maybe but I doubt they will reach orbit next year (without even talking about landing a booster)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:33:16 2023 No.15943531 >>15943512 earth, I hope it stays that way

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:34:17 2023 No.15943533 >>15943520 what if its perfect?

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:37:52 2023 No.15943538

>>15943460
>there is no way they are going to assemble, test and send a rocket on the orbit of mars in the span of a single year; especially for the fact that BO never reached earth orbit before.
But you don't understand, Blue Origin has spent YEARS in cad programs testing the rocket. Everything will simply go absolutely perfect on the first launch. Only the incompetent engineers over at SpaceX have to blow rockets up to understand how they blow up; everyone else just designs them correctly the first time around.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:47:48 2023 No.15943553 >>15943533 I'll be happy to apologize here

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 23:10:01 2023 No.15943582 >>15943346 >>15943346 It's actually more like 11 He forgot Landspace, CASC, Expace, Rocket Pi, Space Epoch. There's probably a few more

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 23:12:32 2023 No.15943586 >another B10 scrub/closure How are they still struggling with this rocket? They have done a few successful full 33 static fires with it already, just do it again

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 23:18:26 2023 No.15943592 >>15943582 AAEngine also

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 23:36:17 2023 No.15943620 >>15943370 >normgroids remain ignorant imagine my surprise!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 23:58:46 2023 No.15943637 File: 81 KB, 810x1024, 1703067908700.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15943192

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 00:14:07 2023 No.15943664 >>15943637 Damn, you're ugly

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 00:17:44 2023 No.15943669 File: 187 KB, 1298x1031, 1677022940608698.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] we broke the charts

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 00:40:24 2023 No.15943705 >>15943669 how close to 100 is spacex actually? google is so dogshit i can't find any resource that just says how much spacex has launched

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 00:45:53 2023 No.15943711 >>15943705 They had launched 96 rockets by Christmas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 00:46:12 2023 No.15943712 >>15943705 I believe they're at 89 Falcon 9s, 3 Falcon Heavies, and 2 Starship flights.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 00:48:54 2023 No.15943713 >>15943705 93 by my count, with another three possible: a Falcon Heavy and two Starlinks

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 00:54:30 2023 No.15943719 >>15943329 SpaceX. That's it.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 01:20:16 2023 No.15943747

>>15943705
https://www.spacexstats.xyz/#launchhistory-per-year

97 so far, there's 3 more planned.

>Falcon Heavy
USSF-52
Florida time
LC-39A
DEC 28 8:07 PM (backup date is day after at DEC 29 8:06 PM)
>Falcon 9
Starlink
Florida
LC-40
DEC 28 11:01 PM (Backup DEC 29 2:59AM, 4 hours later)
>Falcon 9
Starlink
California time
SLC-4E
DEC 30 7:17PM

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 01:29:59 2023 No.15943759
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>>15943370
Should we send influencers to the moon to raise normie interest in space exploration? I think a few selfies like picrel by the right folks could make millions of otherwise ignorant rubes look up from their tiktoks and into the sky.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 01:34:54 2023 No.15943761 >>15943759 For a while I was hoping that Artemis would fall so far behind that dearMoon 2 could land first, just so someone like Mr. Beast could shame the hell out of whatever diversity hire they're going to put on Artemis III.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 01:51:06 2023 No.15943774 >>15943759 there was this one regular youtuber who went on bezo's magic dildo ride and it got millions of views

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:05:18 2023 No.15943794 >>15943774 35 million views from some literal who https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXXlSG-du7c

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:28:57 2023 No.15943816 File: 1.15 MB, 828x1148, n.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15943794 you can buy 10,000 views for a dollar

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:36:19 2023 No.15943821 >>15943816 The jews did do this though hes right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:37:38 2023 No.15943822 File: 439 KB, 2048x1365, 1690007274213842.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SLIM photo album https://www.flickr.com/photos/nvslive/albums/72177720313618826/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:39:17 2023 No.15943826 File: 95 KB, 1219x685, 008596.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwHJPlqNuPQ SpaceX - The King Returns 12-26-23

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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:45:07 2023 No.15943831 >>15943816 >>15943828 What kind of tourist are you and what's supposed to be funny about this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:46:32 2023 No.15943834 >>15943831 The joke is 'Felon Huskrat bad but Christmas'

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:48:25 2023 No.15943837 >>15943834 It's definitely not comedy. This is the same kind of viewpoint-affirming non-joke that The Late Show used to push out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:50:49 2023 No.15943842 >>15943837 That's what zoomers think comedy is now. Have you been to a standup performance lately? People don't laugh because there are no jokes, they clap instead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:51:50 2023 No.15943844 >>15943842 >Have you been to a standup performance lately? I haven't, but it sounds like I'm not missing much.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:53:40 2023 No.15943847

>>15943842
Yeah no fucking shit its horrible humor but this is what my Gen X parents watch this is not zoomer humor. Go search zoomer humor on youtube I assure you its different. Again, this absolute horseshit is millenial or Gen X humor.
>>15943842
Thats millenial humor you fucking nitwit go kill yourself YWNGTS

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 02:55:41 2023 No.15943851 File: 313 KB, 616x583, jp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15943847 >YWNGTS this cuts deep

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:05:07 2023 No.15943858 >>15943842 >they clap instead MICRO AGGRESSION Point of privledge, Use Jazz Hands please. https://twitter.com/growing_daniel/status/1739842682917142655

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:06:45 2023 No.15943860 >>15943759 Mr Beast needs to ride a starship. I've talked to pretty tech knowledgeable normies that have never heard of SpaceX and have no fucking idea that there's starlinks getting flown to space every week.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:12:22 2023 No.15943863 >>15943858 these people need to be in mental institutions

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:16:44 2023 No.15943865 File: 2.28 MB, 2395x3166, the high frontier 156.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:21:21 2023 No.15943872 >>15943865 planned 60 flights per year? oof! 30 years... 135 flights...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:26:09 2023 No.15943874 >>15943816 >>15943828 Anti-Musk cultists are so weirdly obsessive

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:28:11 2023 No.15943876 >>15943816 It's funny That some nigger actually came up with this deluded shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:29:58 2023 No.15943877 File: 92 KB, 1200x482, Screenshot 2023-12-27 202754.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://global.jaxa.jp/press/2023/12/20231228-1_e.html H3 launch NET February 15 with a dummy payload plus smallsats (not a $250M payload this time)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:32:49 2023 No.15943880 File: 1.55 MB, 4096x2731, 1688125543240071.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:37:16 2023 No.15943883 >>15943828 Change santa to Starship and its pretty accurate

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:37:24 2023 No.15943884 >>15943880 fucked up. don't post this shit man. be respectful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:39:02 2023 No.15943887 >>15943880 I forgot for a couple seconds that the CG is that low on the rocket and got confused

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:49:06 2023 No.15943899 >>15943883 YWNBAW

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:49:30 2023 No.15943900 https://spacelaunchnow.me/vehicle/launcher/71/ How did B1061 move from Florida to California in 2022?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:51:11 2023 No.15943902 >>15943900 By road presumably

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 03:51:35 2023 No.15943903 >>15943900 By road, the same way it got from Hawthorne to the cape

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 04:14:18 2023 No.15943912 I'm calling it. No 3rd test launch in 2023.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 04:16:02 2023 No.15943914 >>15943912 too early to say, retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 04:35:07 2023 No.15943923 >>15943914 TWO DAYS

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 04:42:51 2023 No.15943930 >>15943923 launch on new year eve confirmed

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 04:43:39 2023 No.15943932 >>15942942 We used to get 1ml glass ampules of methyl hydrazine, the MSDS is wild. Hazard diamond was 4-4-4. Basically max in every hazard class except radiation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 04:58:43 2023 No.15943950 >>15943828 Should I make this the next OP with it being 'Felongated Huskyrat BTFO Edition'?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 05:02:49 2023 No.15943955 >>15943950 You should cut off one of your fingers

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 05:13:42 2023 No.15943970 >>15943955 Youre one to talk about cutting off appendages troon. Go dilate your rotten stinking neovagina

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 05:20:13 2023 No.15943978

>>15943370
I wonder if they realize that they could write the exact same trhing about commercial exploration of sources of drinking water.
Or oil wells.
Or rare earth metals.
Or PCBs.
Or, if you want to get really basic, iron ore.

I assume that the writers at least know enough to understand this.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 05:53:27 2023 No.15944002

>>15943978
but those things aren't really novel or cutting edge like space exploration so I don't think you can say they are directly analogous
I still think its mainly that people don't think its going to directly affect them in any way whatsoever and aren't interested in advances in tech generally so there is simply nothing they are personally interested in
if it would be possible for them to personally go to a spacestation or the moon or whatever then a lot more people would pay attention

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 06:20:38 2023 No.15944024 Ziggers be like >sabotage iss twice with leaks >failed two week operation >cant even go back to the moon with what they did 50 years ago >launch vodka rocket

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 06:33:53 2023 No.15944031 >>15944024 I am Joe Baseball from New York oblast and I say no, comrade, it was crazy American lesbian astronaut relationship drama that made the hole be drilled

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 06:36:02 2023 No.15944034

>>15943370
If you remove SpaceX from the equation, there IS NO commercial space industry. They make up 80% of the industry by themselves. The difference between is staggering; and the news orgs are too busy trying to destroy Musk's empire, paying lip service to vested interests threatened by the disruption in aerospace, auto, and now information brokering. So it stands to reason then that the public at large remains unaware. If the president or the government bodies cared, they'd promote SpaceX, instead of trying to get in their way.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 06:42:13 2023 No.15944038

>>15944034
this. without spacex (and rocket lab I guess) private space would be... ULA which is being sold off and has a dumb rocket years behind schedule with exploding 2nd stage and missing 1st stage engines, NO manned spaceflight capability, and a smattering of shitty small launch vehicle startups.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 06:55:38 2023 No.15944051 >>15944038 I still don't understand why ULA is being sold off. What kind of dire circumstances are they under that its better than continuing on alone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 06:58:18 2023 No.15944053 >>15944051 keep in mind their business model is 'the government has to prop us up to have redundant launch capability'

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 07:04:48 2023 No.15944060

>>15943860
That's wild to me. I stay up to date on space news and read up on space history, but I've never seen a Mr. Beast video so I guess we just live in a different world over here on /sfg/. As I understand though, the guy has a huge following and could probably change the outlook of a generation if he made a single "So I went to Space" video. From what I've head he could probably afford a crew dragon flight to make a video to boot

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 07:20:14 2023 No.15944074 >>15944051 ULA built themselves around "high energy" NSSL launches, which is a niche market in which they face stiff competition.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 07:46:36 2023 No.15944093 >>15944051 Their rockets have no long term business case and they have no money to create one that does.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 08:14:21 2023 No.15944111 >>15943860 >I've talked to pretty tech knowledgeable normies wtf? Every person that I know that is slightly into tech knows what SpaceX is thats interesting/weird that your tech normies dont know

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 08:20:08 2023 No.15944119

>>15943860
One of my tech coworkers says that the only thing SpaceX is good at is wasting money which I thought was hilarious, but there was no convincing him that SpaceX is the most successful space company ever. Also started complaining that they got government funding as if no other company has ever gotten government funding before. SpaceX has probably spent by far the most private money out of any space company.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 08:21:20 2023 No.15944121

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/science/secret-asteroid-mission-astroforge.html
>For generations, Western space missions have largely occurred out in the open. We knew where they were going, why they were going there and what they planned to do. But the world is on the verge of a new era in which private interests override such openness, with big money potentially on the line. Sometime in the coming year, a spacecraft from AstroForge, an American asteroid-mining firm, may be launched on a mission to a rocky object near Earth's orbit. If successful, it will be the first wholly commercial deep-space mission beyond the moon. AstroForge, however, is keeping its target asteroid secret.
>The secret space-rock mission is the latest in an emerging trend that astronomers and other experts do not welcome: commercial space missions conducted covertly. Such missions highlight gaps in the regulation of spaceflight as well as concerns about whether exploring the cosmos will continue to benefit all humankind. "I'm very much not in favor of having stuff swirling around the inner solar system without anyone knowing where it is," said Jonathan McDowell, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Massachusetts. "It seems like a bad precedent to set." But for AstroForge, the calculation is simple: If it reveals the destination, a competitor may grab the asteroid's valuable metals for itself. "Announcing which asteroid we are targeting opens up risk that another entity could seize that asteroid," said Matt Gialich, AstroForge's chief executive.
IT BEGINS

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 08:22:14 2023 No.15944122 >>15944121 https://archive.is/BM0Pm

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 08:24:43 2023 No.15944125 >>15944122 Thanks bro

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 09:29:37 2023 No.15944169 >>15944119 >SpaceX is the most successful space company ever. This is true by the narrow metric of payload mass launched and cadence. But there's a lot more to being a space company than that.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 09:41:59 2023 No.15944174

>>15944169
Well, lets see, they're also:
>The one with the largest growth potential
>Highest launch services revenue
>On track to exceed Hughesnet's best quarter ever for broadband internet services revenue and still growing rapidly
>Highly advanced engine technology
>Tightly integrated R&D and manufacturing supply chain
>Rapidly advancing technology
>On track to becoming enormously profitable within the next five years
If there's more to being a successful space company, it doesn't sound like there are any successful space companies at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:02:53 2023 No.15944181 File: 538 KB, 635x635, 1683649845421366.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15942847 Implessive...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:05:25 2023 No.15944183 File: 876 KB, 1080x1442, 1703757888186.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guys he's right! How do we get more social scientists at Boca? https://spacenews.com/spaceports-need-social-scientists-heres-why/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:07:19 2023 No.15944185 >>15944183 The author doesn't even articulate a function they perform except to inject bureaucratic slowdowns.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:35:38 2023 No.15944202 >>15944121 >a competitor may grab the asteroid no? isnt there laws for this. its not like somebody can come and start mining your mine too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:36:57 2023 No.15944204 >>15944183 social science has been a plague for biology

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:41:17 2023 No.15944209
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>>15944051
They were created because between Boing and Locksneed (?), there was not enough competition to keep both companies interested. The gummint wanted to have enough redundancy, so ULA was created to launch rockets when nobody else would.
Then SpaceX happened, and now we also have a few other newspace companies that have launched rockets to orbit (BO not related), so ULA's reason to exist is gone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:43:43 2023 No.15944212 >>15944183 Disgusting how transparent they are in leeching off actually useful science.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:46:50 2023 No.15944215

>>15944169
please name a single metric by which they aren't the best. I'm not being petty or snide, I mean it. /sfg/ is a spacex echocgamber and having some real objective discussion of things they are unequivocally NOT successful at would counterbalance the blind loyalty and dicksucking going on in these threads.

That said, the REASON /sfg/ is so full of SpaceX cocksuckers is because they absolutely ARE the best at literally everything spaceflight, at least as far as I'm aware. I try to keep an open mind so I would really value any kind of counterpoint at all; but (having no knowledge of any such counterpoint to speak of), you coming in here and claiming they aren't the best, without any supporting argument, comes off as mere trolling.

>>15944024
>>15944031
you're just as bad as them, bringing this shit up unprompted. keep it out of the thread; it doesn't fucking matter which side you're on

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:47:26 2023 No.15944216

>>15944202
RIght now the laws of physics are the biggest block to someone else beating them to the asteroid. There's not much capability to get there, and even then, there's probably no way to get there faster. Why go to an asteroid that someone else is already mining, there are plenty of them out there, and if you go later, the transfer is probably longer anyhow.
I think the only ones that would even try are the chinkoids.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:48:40 2023 No.15944218

>>15944209
>They were created because between Boing and Locksneed (?), there was not enough competition to keep both companies interested. The gummint wanted to have enough redundancy, so ULA was created to launch rockets when nobody else would.

Boeing and Lockheed were supposed to keep their efforts separate. Boeing cheated big time on a contract bid that legally should have barred them from bidding for decades to come. But they didn't actually want Boeing to stop bidding on things, so they merged the two companies together to make the problem go away. The resulting company was ULA, and produced the high cost US launch monopoly that SpaceX broke once the Falcon 9 became operational.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 10:58:47 2023 No.15944223 >>15944218 Yeah, thanks, I didn't remember the details, other than ULA was created because B and L couldn't play nice together, and it was endangering having reliable launches to orbit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 11:16:55 2023 No.15944233 >>15944202 Those laws are property rights. Someone else can't come onto your land and exploit it, but nobody is allowed to own the moon, mars, or any other than body so currently that sort of thing is a massive grey area

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 11:20:55 2023 No.15944237 >>15944233 The Artemis Accords exist to get rid of the grayness and allow commercial exploitation and recognition of property rights on celestial bodies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 11:38:51 2023 No.15944247 >>15944024 anyone who brings up the other side first in the thread deserves to get laughed at. this is a spaceflight thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 11:49:19 2023 No.15944259 >>15944237 half of the world is on the chinese side. we'll be at war over asteroids at this rate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 11:51:34 2023 No.15944263 >>15944259 Since China has shown they have every intention of pursuing space as a strategic asset in future conflicts, we'd better position ourselves to win.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 12:42:35 2023 No.15944297 >>15944259 >half of the world the irrelevant side yes. boy i sure do hope we get uzbekistan and whateverthefuckelse stan on the artemis accords.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 13:16:31 2023 No.15944311

>>15944297
In the future, the only relevant players in space will be the US and China
Other countries signing onto space accords only matters to provide legitimacy, and for that purpose all that matters is # of countries and # of population in those countries

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 13:25:08 2023 No.15944320 >>15944311 in that case my point stands firm. i'm not denying that china is a serious threat to contend with. it's just that china only ever gets the most isolated and despotic shitholes to side with them (on most things) with few exceptions.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 13:31:47 2023 No.15944327

>>15944051
Vulcan has 70 launches on order, of which 26 are NSSL and 38 are Kuiper, I think. When that's done in a few years, it'll be hard to compete and continue to run an entire rocket company that's entirely centered around Vulcan, in a world where SS, NG, Neutron, etc, exist. It'll be hard to continue justifying continued NSSL contracts, and they certainly won't get more Kuiper contracts.

Vulcan could maybe have some value for BO as a low-end complement to NG for the launches where NG is overkill. So it might make sense to merge the companies, gradually transferring most ULA resources to NG and keeping some on Vulcan. Both ULA and BO have main facilities near each other in Decatur/Huntsville, and both rockets use BO's BE-4 main engine and the same propellants, so it might be relatively easy to merge the two companies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 13:32:49 2023 No.15944328 >>15944320 Just because you don't care about those countries, doesn't mean no one else does. China isn't lobbying them to sign on for no reason

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 13:39:13 2023 No.15944339

>>15944328
Specifically, to sign on to ILRS. I mean, what does for example Azerbaijan actually contribute, except to give the project more legitimacy as a multi-national effort. Azerbaijan doesn't even meaningfully contribute in terms of ground stations locations, because Russia is just next door

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 13:48:31 2023 No.15944353
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The factory to produce satellites for China's G60 constellation was officially opened, and delivered the first satellite. Note that the G60 constellation is distinct from the Guowang constellation

Production target is 300 units per year

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 13:49:47 2023 No.15944355 >>15944353 Source http://stdaily.com/index/kejixinwen/202312/51756f9ed0f74046af5f8facbb92f518.shtml

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 13:50:51 2023 No.15944356 >>15944202 In space, no one can hear you sue

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:06:32 2023 No.15944371
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>>15944181
CASC still hasn't committed to it. The initial CZ-9 is still supposed to have expendable upper stages, and the the reusable upper stage is planned as a far later addition. Maybe they'll revise those plans if Starship works well. The Chinese are probably still skeptical because of the Space Shuttle

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:10:07 2023 No.15944374 >>15944339 i think china is wanting to get enough international support through ILRS so that the artemis accords dont become de facto international law for space

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:21:23 2023 No.15944378
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>>15944209
ULA is joint venture between Boing and Locksneed
Northrop Grumman had Antares and almost finished OmegA that was meant as a competition for government payloads and hypothetically competing in Soyuz weight class for commercial payloads
>>15944051
It's the Boeing's share that's for sale (from what I understand).
Boeing is bleeding cash (5 billion a year, since 2019) and selling off something as hopelessly outmatched as ULA would be probably a good idea.

Civilian airliner sales are so bad that Airbus had to build another factory in US because French can't build the planes fast enough to keep up with demand.
Military jet sales are maybe even worse - Lockheed snatched the new fighter with F-35 over X-32. And if you're poor, the budget option is Lockheed's F-16.
Boeing is only making a handful of FA-18s (and they are going to end the production next year) and handful F-15s (to keep the lights on more than anything).

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:38:09 2023 No.15944386

>>15944121
Literally no one else is attempting asteroid mining (and in fact even these guys aren't--IIRC this barely even a tech demonstrator without even a hypothetical use case for the material produced), and if they did they would have a different target dictated by different timing, objectives and technology.

These assholes are using "it's a valuable secret" to get attention and funding. It makes perfect sense that gay asstroonomers would be stupid enough to play into their hands.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:41:09 2023 No.15944388 >>15944174 You forgot first private human spaceflight, first reusable orbital rockets and (soon) first humans on Mars

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:42:18 2023 No.15944389

>>15944215
>please name a single metric by which they aren't the best. I'm not being petty or snide, I mean it
SpaceX orbital precision is perhaps a little lackluster

Honestly doesn't have much to do with how SpaceX flies its rocket but just what happens with a higher TWR in the upper stage compared to slower accelerating HLOX stages.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:44:25 2023 No.15944392 John Kraus is such a seething cuck about people posting his images LMAOOOO

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:46:27 2023 No.15944394 >>15944311 >In the future, the only relevant players in space will be Elon and Musk FTFY

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:46:55 2023 No.15944395 >>15944389 >SpaceX orbital precision is perhaps a little lackluster you don't know that. just cause tory bruno insinuates it doesnt mean its true

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:53:01 2023 No.15944403

>>15944395
You wanted something
It does makes sense to me that a slower accelerating stage would be more accurate.
Does it matter? Clearly not for 99.9% of shit going to orbit but that good initial insertion does allow things like James webb to operate longer.

Of course, needing things to be so accurate is just a continued symptom of old space mentality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 14:57:58 2023 No.15944406 >>15944378 boing is a damn case study in how disconnected higherups can completely crush a company's foundation. that merger with Mickey Douglas was a deal with the devil.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 15:03:01 2023 No.15944410 >>15944392 Remember to crop out his watermarks and add watermarks from other photographers before reposting

>>	Herbs Thu Dec 28 15:06:33 2023 No.15944414 >>15944410 Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 15:09:51 2023 No.15944417 >>15944410 wasnt going to bother at first but after >>15944414 i now will

>>	Herbs Thu Dec 28 15:22:45 2023 No.15944434 >>15944417 Shut up incel

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 15:23:05 2023 No.15944436 File: 62 KB, 542x674, 1632942004954.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15943816 It's funny how musk never called out the jews in anyway but whenever musk calls out the globalists who oposse him the media and jews scream antisemitism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 15:24:05 2023 No.15944438 >>15943880 Pitty it didnt crash and burn but just tipped over, no eternal afterlife in valhalla for this booster.

>>	Barkun Thu Dec 28 15:26:13 2023 No.15944441 File: 88 KB, 931x1024, 1703125687477776.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >space thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 15:40:29 2023 No.15944470 Namefags go back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 15:46:43 2023 No.15944481 >>15944414 >>15944434 KEEEEK

Barkun Thu Dec 28 15:50:07 2023 No.15944484 [DELETED]

>>15944481
I don't care if the jannie bans me for what I post. This board needs cleaning...

Right... Stop posting this gey space flight thread it makes no sense to go-to mars with a few seeds and a tent. It's not going to work faggots and it's wasting muh taxes

>>	Barkun Thu Dec 28 15:54:58 2023 No.15944491 >>15944481 You go-to mars You have soil connected to his arm in arm sized dome with plants growing. You expand this dome when you reach mars as a priority objective. You take the ecosystem with you

>>	Barkun Thu Dec 28 15:56:04 2023 No.15944495 >>15944491 You'll need about 50 starships making journeys to and from Mars with resources.

>>	Barkun Thu Dec 28 15:57:09 2023 No.15944497 >>15944495 Seems pointless since mars is barren. Pluto is a more reasonable objective.

>>	Barkun Thu Dec 28 16:11:04 2023 No.15944513 >>15944491 >>15944495 >>15944497 samefag

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 16:24:13 2023 No.15944527 >>15944389 >SpaceX orbital precision is perhaps a little lackluster >Source? I made it up. (ULA marketing)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 16:26:54 2023 No.15944531 File: 1.12 MB, 1068x1254, we_are_going_back.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's going to crash, isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 16:32:05 2023 No.15944535 >>15944531 Centaur RUD on ascent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 16:33:52 2023 No.15944539 >>15944535 loss of contact with second stage ~12 minutes into flight

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 16:36:19 2023 No.15944541 >>15944539 Rangefinder returning all zeros or NAN during the final 30 seconds of descent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 16:39:00 2023 No.15944542 >>15944541 mission clock set to India time

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 16:40:54 2023 No.15944544 >>15944531 Centaur failing would ruin ULA plans to sell

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 17:10:32 2023 No.15944561 >>15944544 If anything another fumble would make it easier for ULA to get bought out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 17:14:33 2023 No.15944567 >>15944535 >>15944539 >>15944544 It's going to be a full success and stupid fucking general will seethe.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 17:14:45 2023 No.15944568

>>15944403
That reply wasn't me (the original question asker). It's a good point but - like you said - it's not relevant to the vast majority of spaceflight. On top of that, aside from one partial failure, I'm not aware of any launches that a Falcon 9 managed to miss the target orbit for. Every mission profile is designed with some amount of margin of error for the orbit and F9 is capable of meeting those accuracy demands, so the argument really only does apply for cases like JWST where being more on-target means a longer spacecraft lifetime.
JWST is rare in that it's in an unstable orbit that requires significant dV for stationkeeping, whereas nigh on all sats use the majority of their fuel for finalizing the orbit in one burn, sometimes also shifting to a graveyard orbit later on.

I guess with starlink being >50% of all sats and actually needing to make up for atmospheric drag with their thrusters, I technically can't claim that 'most' satellites don't need fuel for stationkeeping, BUT on the other hand starlinks don't exactly need ultra precise orbit insertion considering they come off the stage in a giant stack and then have to make their own way to the dispersed orbits. High precision delivery wouldn't significantly extend the lifespan of a starlink anyways, and on top of that they're internet devices which absolutely require upgrading on at least a decadal interval to keep up with network speed advancements.

Really if anything that thought highlights another strength of Falcon 9, that it enables massive constellations of cheap sats in the first place. James Webb and missions like it are partly a symptom of high launch costs preventing groups from just spamming tons of robust cheap satellites insead of one budget devouring all-consuming engineering nightmare that *has* to get everything absolutely perfect. Overengineering and mass autism are the biggest impediments after cost, and reducing the $/kg to LEO is the most expedient solution to two of those.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 17:17:43 2023 No.15944571 >>15944561 I doubt ULA wants to sell themselves for scraps >>15944567 It probably will

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 17:17:59 2023 No.15944572 >>15944567 That'd be great, I think anons are all just burnt out on watching moon landers fail over the past few years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 17:24:21 2023 No.15944585 >>15944567 Tell that to the junkyard of failed lunar landers and rovers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 17:39:14 2023 No.15944601 File: 27 KB, 500x476, imagine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15944535 >>15944539 >>15944541 >>15944544

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 17:59:09 2023 No.15944618

>>15944327
This way blue also gets the Centaur upper stage which gives them more in-house hydrolox knowledge. I'm not sure if they're still working on the hydrolox upper stage they proposed for New Glenn at some point (it was a long time ago) but they're definitely using hydrogen for their Blue Moon lander. It isn't using an RL-10, and BO already has their own in-house hydrolox engine from New Shepard that they're adapting to vacuum use for the lander, but BO doesn't have any experience at all with handling hydrolox in orbit (because they don't have experience handling ANYTHING in orbit lol) but achieving long term storage, zero boiloff, and multiple engine restarts in vacuum would be a lot easier with some of ULA's Centaur experience.

Buying ULA makes it much easier for Blue to win govt. contracts as well, and I have to wonder how much of ULA going up for sale has to do with Bezos/BO putting pressure on them and playing backroom political games. Putting on my tinfoil hat for some schizo time, maybe BE-4 isn't in such an absolutely dire state as we've been led to believe, and BO failing to deliver on time was a tactic to put even more economic pressure on Bruno/ULA, or even if there was some sort of collusion between BO and Bruno or the ULA executive board to consolidate, and BE-4 delays are a smokescreen for a deal that was reached years ago. You've got to keep in mind that ULA was literally born from that exact sort of corruption and that Bezos is no stranger to buying out competition and schmoozing it up with politicians to skirt regulations.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:07:21 2023 No.15944627 File: 81 KB, 763x1354, 1703158657400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nyx Earth The Franco-German Dragon

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:08:22 2023 No.15944628 File: 34 KB, 800x500, IMG_2221.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15944627

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:24:51 2023 No.15944643

>>15944378
Isn't the order for 140 F15EX's going to be all new airframes? I could have sworn the differences made it unfeasible to upgrade the existing fleet to the EX specification. Then again, with the rate boing has been building them it might be just barely keeping the lights on.

It's genuinely god damn mind boggling just how many completely different things boing has managed to massively fuck up in the last several years. The 737 MAX-8 crashing twice was an enormous international boondoggle pissing off commercial airline customers, congress, and the FAA; the F15EX delivery delays pissed off the Air Force, their entire commercial airliner program being nothing but production issues and missed deliveries; losing the joint strike fighter contract to locksneed; probably some of ULA's issues are resultant of boeing executives' unparalleled retardation; the Starliner capsule being a constant deathtrap with hydrazine leaks, faulty guidance software, the fire hazard wiring harness, and parachute issues; and them the horrifying abomination of SLS to cap things off.

Feels like boeing hasn't managed a single W for at least a decade now

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:38:02 2023 No.15944656 >>15944643 Makes me wish to be in a corporate structure just to see how disconnected and a shitfest everything is for things to go this downhill. Work at a big company now and have 10 managers above me

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:38:47 2023 No.15944657 >>15944643 Yes the F-15EX are completely new build, a big part of the justification for them is replacing old F-15C at the end of their airframe lives.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:42:56 2023 No.15944661

>>15944643
Yeah, but SLS is cost+, so that's actually a win for Boeing. It's just an L for everyone else involved.

And you missed the fact that they've lost over two billion dollars upgrading a pair of 747s to Air Force One specs and that project is still running behind schedule.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:43:25 2023 No.15944662 >>15944378 >It's the Boeing's share that's for sale (from what I understand). That came from the idea that Lockheed was buying out Boeing's share rather than how it turned out (BO vs. Cerberus vs. Textron).

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:50:11 2023 No.15944668 >>15944627 Very round

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:50:14 2023 No.15944669 File: 261 KB, 667x836, 1677707126268476.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So why were the feds okay with being unable to send American astronauts to the International (American) Space Station without paying Russia to send them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:51:59 2023 No.15944670 >>15944669 They weren't. They had no alternatives to the Shuttle, and this actually helped SpaceX get the CRS contract because they could demonstrate to congress what a waste of money it was paying the Russians to do it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:54:03 2023 No.15944675 >>15944669 >feds you mean american aerospace companies?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:01:33 2023 No.15944687 >>15943759 This is what Steve Jobs thought would benefit the internet, then we got the iphone.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:03:19 2023 No.15944690

>>15944661
I also forgot to mention that Boeing decided to give up and pull out of the competition for the Air Force's new E-4B Nightwatch 'doomsday' planes, which realistically can only be fulfilled by Boeing in the first place since they require a large airliner, domestically manufactured, with 4 engines, modified into a mobile nuclear command center. Literally a contract that could only go to Boeing and they fucking pulled out.

Apparently part of the reason they gave up is that it's a fixed price contract. I fervently hope boeing manages to implode so spectacularly that even the government stepping in to protect them during bankruptcy isn't enough to prevent their total collapse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:03:38 2023 No.15944692 another tank deliverd and crew is busy on some pipes now

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:05:00 2023 No.15944693 >>15943860 What would the title of the video be?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:18:52 2023 No.15944702 >>15944669 America is in decline.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:24:07 2023 No.15944708 File: 354 KB, 643x718, mr_beast.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15944693 >I survived SPACE for 48 hours

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:41:35 2023 No.15944731

>>15944669
Reminder that Atlas V existed and still exists and still is powered by RD-180
Reminder that Pre-RS68 upgrade DIVH couldn't meet the highest DoD requirement (NSSL GEO, 13,500 lbs treshold) without the foreign-made RL-10 nozzle extension (which brought it to 13,800 lbs)

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:47:14 2023 No.15944739

>>15944690
Also the HLS bid that was so bad it didn't even go into further consideration, had NASA tell them to never bid anything this terrible again, and led to the firing of a NASA official who tried to tell them just how much they were fucking up.
Does Boeing have a single recent W other than SLS profit? Is the 787 doing better now or is it still muh batteries muh composites fuckery?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 19:50:56 2023 No.15944743 >>15944669 That was never the plan, but then Obama canceled the Ares I.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:12:40 2023 No.15944759 File: 26 KB, 590x247, 8972908371297312.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] StarXisters... They lied... I thought it was suppsoed to lift 150 tonnes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:13:40 2023 No.15944760 >>15944531 >first commercial robotic launch to the Moon's surface first successful one maybe, only retards work at NASA nowadays it seems

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:16:37 2023 No.15944764 >>15944759 in theory i can fit both my fists up my ass and screech like a banshee

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:18:12 2023 No.15944767 >>15944760 for me it's vast and axiom and gravitics and bo/snc all making the "first commercial space station" because none of them are up yet and also they pretend bigelow didn't launch those modules

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:23:54 2023 No.15944770 how much faster would star ship have been developed if they didn't decide to go all in on fucking boca chica?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:28:34 2023 No.15944776 >>15944770 FAA

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:28:42 2023 No.15944777 >>15944702 everyone is

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:28:56 2023 No.15944778 >>15944643 Don't forget the KC-46 tanker

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:30:33 2023 No.15944781 >>15944759 in theory this guy is supposed to have a penis but in practice he's a tranny who probably lost it a long time ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:31:35 2023 No.15944783 >>15944770 it would have been developed slower because regulatory hurdles would have been even worse in another area.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:35:52 2023 No.15944784 >>15944770 Them going all in on boca chica meant that it was the best place to build starship.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:37:03 2023 No.15944787 >>15943759 People would be extremely enthused by it. And then they'd forget it within a week when the influencers move on to the next thing

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:37:04 2023 No.15944788 >>15944784 its a good location for a privately run LAUNCH SITE the factory itself, and testing facilities are insanely cramped there

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:38:48 2023 No.15944790 >>15944788 Sure, but transporting starship longer distances would be a huge pain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:40:03 2023 No.15944791 >>15944788 have fun transporting your 9 meter diameter 70 meter long tube back and forth hundreds of kilometers through a bunch of different counties because they need inspection, modification or repairs after testing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:40:38 2023 No.15944792 >>15944790 >>15944791 build it at a port, stick it on a barge

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:41:08 2023 No.15944794 >>15944791 P.S keep in mind you wont be able to transport them vertically like they're doing now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:41:29 2023 No.15944795 >>15944790 >>15944791 ? You barge it down the river to the coastal water ways over to brownsville or a privately constructed dock on the beach if they had permission for that There is still years of single use launches before reuse starts

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:49:44 2023 No.15944802 >>15944795 You're a retard. See how often they roll back the prototypes? >There is still years of single use launches before reuse starts Incorrect. Otherwise they wouldnt have been trying to do a boostback and water landing on the first flight.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:50:23 2023 No.15944804

>>15944795
irrelevant when you can already see how much moving between the launch and build site they have to do right now.
at the moment they can vroom it between in a few hours. imagine if every inspection and engine installation and modification they did between testing was a multi-day trip instead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:57:20 2023 No.15944809 >>15944389 SpaceX also lacks a high-energy upper stage, which is why Atlas was still used for solar system exploration missions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:57:51 2023 No.15944810 >>15944802 >>15944804 >See how often they roll back the prototypes? From the TESTING stand Once its been TESTED And HOPPED It's good to go, send it to the launch site to destructively test

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 20:59:23 2023 No.15944812 >>15944810 >and hopped nigger are you fucking dense?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:03:03 2023 No.15944816 >>15944812 It's supposed to be reusable, if it can't even be hopped then what is the goddamn point of shooting for orbit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:12:49 2023 No.15944824 >>15944759 >spaceguy5 anon I have some bad news

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:13:32 2023 No.15944826

>>15944816
i mean, maybe i've just been paying more attention than most, but have you not been looking at the last half year of testing?
most of the issues or simple installation jobs that required returns to the factory were before any static fires had even occured.
you can pretty much add another year of delay onto this testing campaign if you want them to move the factory to a place somewhere else that requires a week-long retour by boat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:14:12 2023 No.15944827 >>15944809 Europa Clipper

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:16:02 2023 No.15944831 >>15944181 Why is china so much more advanced than the USA? in 2024 they will have 10 falcon heavy class vehicles and long march 11 is coming right after

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:16:49 2023 No.15944832

>>15944826
>inb4 why the hell would they move the factory now
thats not what i meant btw, phrased that weirdly. if the factory was built in a different area to begin with, every little hickup that require rollbacks would require multiple days wasted in transporting it back and forth.
i think people also underestimate NIMBYism.
yes if they built it outside of a nature reserve, NIMBY's wouldn't be able to use that angle anymore, but there would have been equally similar regulatory hurdles building the factory all the same. most of the problems were with the launch site itself affecting its surroundings and that would not have been an easier process anywhere else along the coast.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:21:07 2023 No.15944840 >>15944809 Psyche mission

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:23:35 2023 No.15944842

>>15944831
>in 2024 they well have 10 falcon heavy class vehicles
no they won't lol.
>dey don't have a commerciarry avairabre heavy-rift vehicre. The Starchship may some day come about. It's on the dlawing board light naow. Infinispace LongDong Sharting Dragon 9-15 are real!

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:24:55 2023 No.15944844

>>15944826
>>15944832
?
Maybe you miss the point
Static fires, dress rehersals, hops, etc
can be done ANYWHERE, and do not need to be done at boca chica

The only thing that needs to happen at boca chica, or florida, is orbital launches
The full complete development of the vehicle can happen before orbital launches, which is how it works for most rockets

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:28:03 2023 No.15944846

>>15944831
The only designs they have that qualify for that are the Long March 9 & 10, and neither of those are rolling out to the pad in 2024. They haven't even started building the pads for them yet and that's going to take more than 12 months by itself.

Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:29:49 2023 No.15944848

>>15944739
>787
>manufacturing the wings in FUCKING JAPAN and have to ship them all the way to South Caroline because ?????
I used to be a big Boeing simp, but the fuckery with the 787 supply chain being all over the place FOR NO REASON blackpilled me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:30:50 2023 No.15944851 >>15944824 what's the bad news?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:32:49 2023 No.15944853 >>15944844 Wait. Are you the guy who kept saying that SpaceX should be building and testing Starship in fucking Arkansas?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:32:53 2023 No.15944854 >>15944844 >can be done ANYWHERE, and do not need to be done at boca chica At that point why even launch from boca chica then? You would need to build up infrastructure to support the rocket at 2 different places.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:33:52 2023 No.15944857 >>15944844 youre a retard >do it my way which is objectively worse no lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:52:16 2023 No.15944870 >>15944844 >static fires >dress rehearsals >hops >can be done ANYWHERE ... i dont even know what to say.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 21:53:11 2023 No.15944871 >>15944870 Do you misunderstand something?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:19:30 2023 No.15944891 >>15944854 Boca has basically been bought out. I doubt there was many places that could be gentrified to the degree SpaceX wanted and be a OK place for launches

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:22:27 2023 No.15944894 >>15944891 Chicago?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:28:39 2023 No.15944905 >>15944894 >launching over land

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:29:21 2023 No.15944908 >>15944871 i misunderstood how stupid you were, yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:30:48 2023 No.15944912 >>15944905 launching over land is literally fine if you aren't flying directly over towns, and don't have large hypergolic stages

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:31:20 2023 No.15944913 What happened to the scat posting flerfer

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:31:55 2023 No.15944916 >>15944905 seems to work for the other two space powers

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:34:58 2023 No.15944920 >>15944905 not launching over land is a meme requirement born of the luxury of having coastlines everywhere but straight north. launching overland is fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 22:59:19 2023 No.15944949 https://twitter.com/DanaEn803/status/1740416641467367934 Reminder, 1 starship production per week is the long stretched goal of SpaceX. 50+ per year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:00:36 2023 No.15944950 is FH going to launch tonight finally

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:00:41 2023 No.15944951 He should set up the starship factory in arkansas

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:01:59 2023 No.15944955 >>15944950 2 hours till launch

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:03:14 2023 No.15944958 >>15944955 yayyyy

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:06:42 2023 No.15944959 How much (lengthwise) clearance you need to launch a rocket? Could Europe launch rockets over mediterranean sea?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:07:59 2023 No.15944962 >not launching over land is a meme >all new Russian and Chinese spaceports are on their east coasts

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:08:22 2023 No.15944963 >>15944949 >long stretched goal Don't believe it, 100 per year is one order of magnitude too low, 1,000 per year is closer to peak boeing airliner production rate, and that's a minimum for Elon

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:23:12 2023 No.15944977 >>15944959 Not easily They've thought about it but there's just too many boats floating around

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:25:42 2023 No.15944982 >>15944977 shut the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:25:59 2023 No.15944983 >>15944959 You can't imagine how autistically these government regulators are They would rather set their whole launch organization in another continent at whatever billions extra cost than launch eastward from spain

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:30:07 2023 No.15944985 >>15944983 Kourou has some significant advantages as a launch site which have nothing to do with launching over water.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:35:40 2023 No.15944994 >>15944982 Seething tranny

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:37:44 2023 No.15944995 >>15944950 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnfddhDuWDE And a Starlink launch, too T-90:00

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:38:06 2023 No.15944996 >>15944994 and you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:39:05 2023 No.15944998 >>15944995 damn they're still not cracking 100 thought right

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:46:40 2023 No.15945007 >>15944995 https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=ussf-52 https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1ynKOyeDmrwJR ~1 hr from now

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:48:01 2023 No.15945010 >>15944998 They've got an X-37b and two more starlinks. I think that's 96, plus two Starship tests?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:50:53 2023 No.15945014 >>15944998 blame December's cape weather

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:54:49 2023 No.15945021 >>15944998 you know what the headlines are going to be come monday >hack fraud elon musk can't meet own goals for rocket company; falls short on launches

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:04:51 2023 No.15945037 will x-37b actually launch this time or not

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:05:32 2023 No.15945038 >>15945037 yeah

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:06:35 2023 No.15945039 >>15945037 Weather is at 80%, so things are looking pretty good

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:07:47 2023 No.15945041 >>15944995 T-60:00 for FH T-4:00:00 for F9

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:16:08 2023 No.15945054
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>>15945037
I've always liked this little guy. In Seveneves, notHillary Clinton rides one into orbit and proceeds to ruin everything. The first half of that book is awesome and I haven't found anything that has a similar tone.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:16:36 2023 No.15945056

>>15942847
Asking about QI again. Someone said last thread that it has been tested in the lab with results suggesting it works. Anyone got proofs and is capable of explaining the mechanics for why the results show it working and not just a fluke?

Another person claimed the “bullet cluster” is evidence of dark matter, but another person retorted with a claim said cluster can also be explained by QI. Can someone explain both sides of these theories.

Thirdly, if one of the basic reasons for a QI drive being unlikely to work that I heard about is: If an engine outputs constant thrust at constant power, eventually an accelerating craft will gain kinetic energy at a greater rate than energy expended via it’s engine.
This reasoning sounds sensible to me, but how does this work to thrusters using photons? E.g a flashlight left on in space for a very long time outputs constant energy and thrust encounters the same problem.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:19:04 2023 No.15945058 >>15945056 QI is a bit played by people on this board. noone seriously thinks it works.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:21:00 2023 No.15945060 >>15945037 They are saying yes, but its top secret and wont be releasing any more details.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:26:27 2023 No.15945063 >>15945056 the drive works but not because qi is true. it has beneficial interactions with earth's magnetic field

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:27:12 2023 No.15945064

>>15945056
QI is a meme. If people were serious about it, it would be as transparent as SpaceX with their launches and failures. The secrecy and hush hush over an experiment launched on a public mission to orbit just goes to show that its a fucking farce.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:29:53 2023 No.15945067 Weren't LZ 1 and 2 supposed to go to some new rocket company? https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1740526043554001092?s=20

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:31:26 2023 No.15945069 >>15945067 yeah I recall reading that too

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:31:36 2023 No.15945070 >400+ lunar missions forecasted for the next 10 years how likely is this

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:33:03 2023 No.15945072

>>15945064
>If people were serious about it, it would be as transparent as SpaceX with their launches and failures.
What's secretive about their launch? The guy talks about it constantly on twitter. We only don't know the results because they haven't gotten their time slot yet. They're leasing time at the end of the list so they have to wait for everyone else to finish their experiments.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:38:36 2023 No.15945080 >>15945007 10 minutes

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:45:44 2023 No.15945088 File: 82 KB, 889x264, falcon 1 accuracy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15944389 ULA BTFO

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:45:45 2023 No.15945089 FH are comfy. I'm glad I'm watching with all of you. dual RTLS!

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:47:57 2023 No.15945091

>>15945067
https://spacenews.com/space-force-allocates-three-historic-cape-canaveral-launch-pads-to-four-companies/
Two companies, in fact: Phantom Space (Daytona: booking launches for 2023!) and Vaya Space (The Green Rocket Launch Company), both optimistic small launch providers.

I'm not very optimistic about either of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:49:11 2023 No.15945093 MUSIC https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1ynKOyeDmrwJR

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:51:14 2023 No.15945095 Good morning /sfg/, I hate Twitter

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:51:18 2023 No.15945096 nighttime FH Hope we get some good shots

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:51:41 2023 No.15945098 >jessie

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:52:14 2023 No.15945101 A reusable super heavy lift rocket with a reusable spaceplane payload just flew over my house!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:52:42 2023 No.15945103 https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1740535676519821537 Live with Jessie

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:53:29 2023 No.15945105 it's launched inverted like shuttle? interesting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:54:13 2023 No.15945106 File: 203 KB, 1280x720, 1685475980871347.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Clear Live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e50SII7LIT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e50SII7LIT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e50SII7LIT0

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:54:39 2023 No.15945107 i love this pierced titty slut

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:56:23 2023 No.15945109 10 bings

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:58:18 2023 No.15945110 File: 1.77 MB, 674x380, 32163427.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945106 Finally a real stream

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:58:55 2023 No.15945111 Women make me so horny bros

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 00:59:26 2023 No.15945113 File: 1.94 MB, 2048x2048, 0fc139f603aa58c1111f88456eb38e47.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945111 I know right

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:00:10 2023 No.15945114 >adversary, singular hmm

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:01:41 2023 No.15945115 File: 2.14 MB, 2050x1153, 1701818686459706.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:02:17 2023 No.15945116 >maintain our superiority damn right

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:02:39 2023 No.15945117 so we still don't know what orbit it's going into do we?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:02:53 2023 No.15945118 File: 148 KB, 700x457, ninthconfiguration_moon_jesus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945114 It's referring to Satan

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:02:55 2023 No.15945119 space starts here strong we gaan energy

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:03:25 2023 No.15945120 >>15945115 cute festive outfit!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:03:54 2023 No.15945121 Can't have a US military video without a bunch of useless naggers

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:04:26 2023 No.15945122 File: 80 KB, 1920x1080, shot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The moon shot on the top left looks nice

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:05:56 2023 No.15945124 Spaceplane bros we can’t stop winning

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:06:13 2023 No.15945125 Why did they develop a spaceplane when a capsule would have been easier, and do the same thing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:06:20 2023 No.15945126 >>15945106 why can't she speak american instead of anime

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:06:30 2023 No.15945127 GO

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:06:34 2023 No.15945128 >>15945125 because our government is run by fucking retards

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:07:08 2023 No.15945131 >>15945125 Landing on a runway > splashdown

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:07:11 2023 No.15945132 >>15945126 Anime girls are developmentally challenged

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:07:17 2023 No.15945133 >>15945125 capsules are GAY planes are BADASS!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:07:29 2023 No.15945134 >>15945125 So it can land exactly where they want it to

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:07:31 2023 No.15945135 LAUNCH

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:07:51 2023 No.15945136 the chinese will probably play catch up and send their own spaceplane on a heavy lift rocket next

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:08:04 2023 No.15945138 File: 1.93 MB, 1295x2489, 1674716337196279.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:08:04 2023 No.15945137 we gaan

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:08:18 2023 No.15945139 >>15945134 so can a capsule..

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:08:26 2023 No.15945140 >>15945136 nobody tell him

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:08:45 2023 No.15945141 File: 1.14 MB, 1685x948, Screenshot 2023-12-28 at 17-08-00 【#FalconHeavy】USSF-52 (OTV-7) Mission ロケット打上視聴会🌟 2023.12.28 #宇推くりあ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Max-Qute!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:09:15 2023 No.15945143 >scroll X >falcon heavy stream comes by right as the countdown reaches t-0 perfectly timed, thanks X

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:09:19 2023 No.15945144 >>15945139 landing on land in a capsule with sensitive spooky cargo isn't easy

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:09:26 2023 No.15945145 File: 250 KB, 1152x2048, 1592406811382.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] N O M I N A L

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:09:43 2023 No.15945148 beco

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:10:54 2023 No.15945150 >>15945126 gatekeeping is based

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:11:06 2023 No.15945151 MECO!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:11:52 2023 No.15945153 No telemetry for u

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:12:09 2023 No.15945156 dougboat

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:12:17 2023 No.15945157 File: 113 KB, 449x721, 1694324524126501.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Spooky Spaceplane

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:12:19 2023 No.15945158 File: 3.64 MB, 1280x720, 1678000481915748.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:12:34 2023 No.15945159 >>15945133 Facts

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:12:50 2023 No.15945160 >>15945158 >delivering your mom's new dildo

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:13:56 2023 No.15945163 >>15945158 Oh damn I never realized just how huge mvac engines are

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:14:12 2023 No.15945164 File: 834 KB, 1973x3000, 569ee3c74b92d81be6b077297285aedb-3783256888.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >spaceplane: yawn >spacecopter: real shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:14:59 2023 No.15945165 they should put windshield wipers on the booster cams or something. too blurry

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:15:01 2023 No.15945167 >city lights in the background KINOOOO

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:15:45 2023 No.15945170 it's that easy

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:16:01 2023 No.15945171 File: 12 KB, 232x217, 9k=.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:16:02 2023 No.15945172 >he can't keep getting away with it

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:16:05 2023 No.15945174 Bullseye. Man, that never gets old.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:16:10 2023 No.15945175 Perfect landing. Yes, we can!

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:16:34 2023 No.15945176

>>15945164
>The Rotary Rocket did fly three test flights and a composite propellant tank survived a full test program, however these tests revealed problems. For instance, the ATV demonstrated that landing the Rotary Rocket was tricky, even dangerous. Test pilots have a rating system, the Cooper-Harper rating scale, for vehicles between 1 and 10 that relates to difficulty to pilot. The Roton ATV scored a 10 — the vehicle simulator was found to be almost unflyable by anyone except the Rotary test pilots, and even then there were short periods where the vehicle was out of control.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:16:50 2023 No.15945177 >96th and final mission its over 100 launch bros

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:17:21 2023 No.15945178 File: 199 KB, 1920x1080, staroli9jnk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I got one more in me!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:17:30 2023 No.15945180 File: 108 KB, 800x648, IMG_7492.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945164

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:17:57 2023 No.15945181 >>15945177 Fish & Wildlife Services cucked us

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:18:21 2023 No.15945183 >Most advanced and experimental and secret and cool space vehicle is now in space and heading to a new orbit USSF is so cool

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:18:39 2023 No.15945184 >>15945163 now you know why spacex keeps making the the cuck mvac

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:18:42 2023 No.15945185 File: 1.37 MB, 1920x1080, landings_noaudio.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:19:08 2023 No.15945186 File: 174 KB, 1250x1250, GCelCupXQAA1Axu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:19:47 2023 No.15945188 So what orbit is it going to?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:20:01 2023 No.15945189 >>15945188 Lunar

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:20:21 2023 No.15945190 File: 45 KB, 1117x727, afterward.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:20:33 2023 No.15945191 >only 96 launches in a year. >can't even land the center booster I knew it. Elon is a fucking fraud.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:20:55 2023 No.15945193 >>15945188 the giganerd sat tracking mailing list will have it soon enough http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Dec-2023/index.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:21:31 2023 No.15945194 >>15945183 Fuck off pajeet

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:22:06 2023 No.15945196 formation flying of spaceplanes when?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:23:06 2023 No.15945197 >>15945183 I always assumed the X-37 was simply just a front, a facade, a ‘potemkin village‘ set up to look scary but in reality it’s just running simple (albeit interesting, I’m sure) experiments

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:23:08 2023 No.15945198 >>15945191 https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OwxWYyalmWGQ Starlink in ~2 and half hours.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:24:56 2023 No.15945201 >>15945176 someone find the quote of the test pilot saying it was like flying a dishwasher or something to that effect

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:28:08 2023 No.15945204 >>15944567 lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:29:01 2023 No.15945207 >launching important payload on the maiden flight of a new rocket why.wav

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:29:11 2023 No.15945208

>>15944844
This is only true in the barest technical sense. The only sensible choice is to do it close to the launch and manufacturing site to reduce transportation times. Once SpaceX has established their manufacturing and verification process techniques, eliminating cryo and static fire testing is probably going to be a long term goal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:30:49 2023 No.15945210 >>15945207 remember when soichi publicly shat on JAXA for putting a payload on the doomed H3 flight (that resulted in Clear crying on stream)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:32:07 2023 No.15945213 >>15944853 Hahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:32:26 2023 No.15945214 File: 20 KB, 462x463, 1698683237059823.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:33:33 2023 No.15945218 >>15945214 I'm dubious of the $ value put to a re use but that's a nice table nonetheless

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:33:45 2023 No.15945219 File: 653 KB, 2016x1512, 1698533536037267.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945210 Will Clear cry if Vulcan fails?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:34:38 2023 No.15945221 Does anyone know if there will be another round of CLPS contracts? Maybe for 2026 and beyond

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:35:34 2023 No.15945222 >>15945214 based on this chart we should see the first starship landings in a few years then the first relaunches a couple of years after that

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:37:34 2023 No.15945224 >>15945222 starship landings are going to happen much sooner because landing is designed upfront instead of added on later on the f9

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:37:54 2023 No.15945225 >>15945221 There will be CLPS and CLMS and CLVS and CL-53 USS San Diego

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:38:55 2023 No.15945228 File: 1.99 MB, 4080x3072, PXL_20231229_010734460.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got to see x37b launch in person Seeing a rocket fly in front of the full moon was cool Shit landing was cool

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:39:36 2023 No.15945229 >>15945228 very nice FLanon

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:39:47 2023 No.15945230 >>15945228 God.. just imagine Starship at night

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:44:29 2023 No.15945235 >>15945218 Doesnt take into account the benefit of paying people to build more stuff vs make stuff to be destroyed

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:45:38 2023 No.15945236 >>15945230 Its going to disrupt so many vulnerable animal species sleep patterns. It needs to be stopped

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:49:04 2023 No.15945241

>>15945235
Most accountants view that as a workforce value negative because less stuff to be built tends to mean less need for stuff which means higher unit costs and it becomes harder to justify keeping everyone employed. Falcon 9 ameliorates that with all second stages being new builds, while Starlink upsets that line of thinking completely.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:49:31 2023 No.15945242 >>15945230 If launch starship at night it looks like morning came early

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:49:55 2023 No.15945243 Starship has launched Billions of baby turtles must wander inland

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:50:51 2023 No.15945245 >>15945243 We don't have the resources to support that many baby turtles, that's why I'm pro turtle-choice

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:52:30 2023 No.15945247 File: 48 KB, 1080x1569, 1702081075933887.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945242 The engines will look like a blue star, and the exhaust will be a translucent blue, purple, and orange plume.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:53:12 2023 No.15945250 File: 292 KB, 1920x1080, X37B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This bitch is in orbit right now over you're head and basically your fucking stupid find out now!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:53:29 2023 No.15945251 File: 78 KB, 850x605, 1703814798647.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Has it ever been the case where two launches happened damn near simultaneously by the same agency/company?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:54:12 2023 No.15945253 >>15945251 NASA

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:55:46 2023 No.15945254 >>15945251 gemini 6a/7

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:56:05 2023 No.15945255 >>15945251 Yeah, spacex launched two falcon in 4 hours a couple months ago

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:56:48 2023 No.15945257 >>15945250 what's he doing up there

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:58:42 2023 No.15945260 >>15945257 Stealing chinaman’s lunch money

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:59:21 2023 No.15945265 >>15945257 spying on government employees who forget to label stuff CUI

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 01:59:47 2023 No.15945267 File: 1.29 MB, 1080x1586, 1703815117531.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pls no more tank farm bullshit https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/status/1740552113347014838?t=RdPlfXwjs6KeuZD-UvvxXw&s=19

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:00:48 2023 No.15945271 >>15945267 how has she not been bought out yet

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:01:38 2023 No.15945272 >>15945254 Those lauched 9 days apart

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:02:02 2023 No.15945273 >>15944531 >crash Vulcan will RUD on accent. BE-4s will be to blame

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:02:41 2023 No.15945274 >>15945271 Was offered to have the house bought, but she refused

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:02:44 2023 No.15945275

>>15945251
Two USAF Thor launcher (a Thor-Agena and a Thor-Ablestar) launched within 90 seconds of each other on August 18 1960.

The Thor Agena carried the first succesfuly recovered american spysat to fly over the USSR, the Thord Ablestar carried the first active repeater communication satellite, sadly the later failed during ascent, the satellite would be launched on another thor 2 months later

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:05:56 2023 No.15945276 >>15945267 Orbit before Vulcan?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:07:45 2023 No.15945278 >>15945276 Vulcan's launching in ten days. ULA would probably need to delay again for SpaceX to have a real shot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:08:03 2023 No.15945279 >>15945275 (The Thor Agena was from Vandenberg and Thor Ablestar from Cape) Two launches within one hour is also not unheard of for R7s too, it at least happened in 1978 iirc, some plesetsk kosmos launch just after a Crewed soyuz launch

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:08:43 2023 No.15945280 looking at the huge number of soviet launches in the 70s, what the fuck were they putting up there

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:08:58 2023 No.15945281 >>15945278 ten days? so they only need to delay another 4 days and they'll launch on the same day as starship

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:10:13 2023 No.15945282 >>15945281 It took me a minute to get this Fuck you >>15945278 last launch we got what, 8 days notice?

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:10:41 2023 No.15945283

https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/status/1740552113347014838
https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/status/1740552113347014838
https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/status/1740552113347014838
https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/status/1740552113347014838
https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/status/1740552113347014838

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:10:51 2023 No.15945284 File: 1.31 MB, 894x1805, 1699023281392694.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945219 She'll certainly be sad. Tory is like the only space CEO that interacts with Ria.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:10:56 2023 No.15945285 >>15945280 they had to frequently launch spysats because they used outdated film tech for a lot longer than americans did

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:11:44 2023 No.15945287 >>15945207 >its a fucking lunar lander not just a big LEO sat AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:17:00 2023 No.15945290 File: 825 KB, 1700x893, GCenY2PWAAAlMRY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:17:39 2023 No.15945292 File: 55 KB, 500x500, Flock of Seagulls.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945274 Such things can be sorted discreetly

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:18:51 2023 No.15945293 >>15945290 what the fuck is that flightpath

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:19:43 2023 No.15945295 >>15945293 Flat Earthers nightmare

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:20:30 2023 No.15945296 >>15945290 >they put in on FH so they'd have enough delta V to turn it the fuck around and go backwards sure, why not

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:20:41 2023 No.15945297 >>15945293 I hate projections

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:24:52 2023 No.15945302 File: 1.75 MB, 1505x865, trassa_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945293 It's weird, but it's not that much weirder than the tail end of an average ground track to geostationary. It's just in a highly-inclined, highly-elliptical orbit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:28:38 2023 No.15945305 File: 176 KB, 1024x980, GCeu6xZXAAAUm6I.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945283

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:31:14 2023 No.15945310 File: 1.43 MB, 2034x2954, because it is hard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945125 >easier It's a subtle psychological flex. Showing the world that America can pull off spaceplanes despite the difficulty, simply because they can.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:34:18 2023 No.15945313 File: 480 KB, 2440x1004, Screenshot 2023-12-28 at 9.33.34 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ISRO fanboys boasting about Chandrayaan-3 >Meanwhile CLPS in 2024 alone lel

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:38:40 2023 No.15945321 >>15945297 I cannot forgive Mercator and his many lies

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:38:45 2023 No.15945322 File: 551 KB, 1264x720, twittervid.com_DutchSpace_4d466b(1).webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945313 >At the request of our customer we will only be showing an accidental two second clip of payload deployment

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:39:02 2023 No.15945323 File: 704 KB, 3840x2160, viper.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945313

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:41:13 2023 No.15945325 File: 71 KB, 459x332, Earth-ground-track-for-the-optimal-Earth-Moon-transfer-trajectory-The-spacecrafts.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post weird ground tracks

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:41:56 2023 No.15945326 >>15945322 >At the request of another customer

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:58:46 2023 No.15945351 File: 121 KB, 1552x683, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fireflybros I'm thinking we're BACK >Partial success incoming.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:02:17 2023 No.15945354 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-FFOLKTlMQ Stream's up. T-60:00

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:02:59 2023 No.15945355 >>15945354 is it jessi again?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:08:34 2023 No.15945361 >>15945355 that isn't the spacex stream

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:13:50 2023 No.15945368 BOOSTER STATIC FIRE TOMORROW

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:15:24 2023 No.15945370 >>15945368 posting from mars? how's the weather this time of year?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:17:53 2023 No.15945374 >>15945198 40 minutes to live for Starlink launch

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:27:20 2023 No.15945386 File: 1.38 MB, 3000x2000, 1690733354394406.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wow

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:28:49 2023 No.15945392

>>15945313
Honestly it'll probably just be the first two, plus maybe Blue Ghost if we're lucky. Have we seen any hardware for future Astrobotic and IM landers? Where is VIPER? And at least one of them will probably fail and trigger lengthy investigation and fixing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:31:06 2023 No.15945395 File: 20 KB, 133x244, EOX-xFuWsAAjRJh_(1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945386

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:31:27 2023 No.15945396 just spent the last 8 hours on the toilet. diarrhea day

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:33:19 2023 No.15945399 >>15945370 Awful we got a bad planet wide dust storm recently

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:34:24 2023 No.15945401 >>15945396 You should probably get that checked out tbħ

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:46:39 2023 No.15945419 10 minutes https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OwxWYyalmWGQ

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:54:11 2023 No.15945428 When will we get the first live band performance from space, aka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hANbfPkwJm8

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:56:16 2023 No.15945432 >>15945386 >>>/wsg/5394926

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:57:22 2023 No.15945434 https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1740582471803207788 LIVE LIVE LIVE!!! T-4:30

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:58:23 2023 No.15945436 How many back to back same day (within 24 hrs of each other) launches have there been for 2023?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:59:14 2023 No.15945437 >>15945434 These niggas really going all out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:00:41 2023 No.15945439 1 minute

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:01:23 2023 No.15945440 >no jessie wtf

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:02:14 2023 No.15945441 lunch

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:02:33 2023 No.15945443 File: 84 KB, 1920x1080, new launch tower.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the new launch tower right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:03:23 2023 No.15945445 >>15945443 yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:03:41 2023 No.15945446 File: 2.87 MB, 2050x1153, 1672842049703246.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Clear (delayed) Live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsYRO7jE9yg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsYRO7jE9yg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsYRO7jE9yg

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:03:49 2023 No.15945447 >>15945445 First launch from here or was there another one previous with the full launch tower?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:04:56 2023 No.15945448 >>15945443 Crew tower at SLC-40?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:07:02 2023 No.15945453 >>15945448 Yeah, they installed a backup a few months ago. NASA was getting jittery about semi-experimental starship launches and landings taking place within shrapnel distance of SpaceX's one crew launch facility.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:07:45 2023 No.15945454 >only 97 launches in a year. >can't even land the center booster I knew it. Elon is a fucking fraud.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:09:04 2023 No.15945457 >>15945454 Falcon Heavy will be retired before they reuse a centre core

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:10:34 2023 No.15945458 LANDED

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:10:41 2023 No.15945459 >he gets away with it twice in one day

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:12:04 2023 No.15945462 >>15945459 3x really 3.125 if you include the fairings as a 16th of a getting away with it each

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:13:07 2023 No.15945465 He won't reach 100 launches. He. simply. won't.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:19:14 2023 No.15945470 >threw away TWO perfectly good 2nd stages IN ONE DAY pathetic, what a grifter

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:24:18 2023 No.15945474 Whats the deal /sfg/ has been way more active than usual even for a FH launch. You autists been out for Christmas or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:28:34 2023 No.15945478 File: 123 KB, 960x690, BavarianHalos_Werner_960_annotated.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945474 School's out for the kiddos

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:44:14 2023 No.15945494 File: 42 KB, 1200x1065, GCe_Q5YXcAAN64z.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945186

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:53:10 2023 No.15945501

>U.S. intelligence officials have determined that the Chinese spy balloon that flew across the U.S. this year used an American internet service provider to communicate
>NBC News is not naming the provider to protect the identity of its sources.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/us-intelligence-officials-determined-chinese-spy-balloon-used-us-inter-rcna131150

starlink?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:56:27 2023 No.15945503 File: 634 KB, 1500x1000, IMG_7811.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945494

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:56:52 2023 No.15945504
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>>15945501
i ask starlink because it's likely to be a satellite internet provider that can provide communications across the world, or at least east asia and north america

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:05:54 2023 No.15945515 File: 306 KB, 1277x555, 1690126130807127.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15945504 nvm it looks like viasat betrayed us

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:14:21 2023 No.15945525 >>15945503 Different angle than the usual moon transit photos. I dig it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:16:05 2023 No.15945526 >>15945503 The Moon is so beautiful bros

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:18:01 2023 No.15945527 File: 1.03 MB, 3000x2000, GCfb-jeawAEgYqU.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1740602637299646970

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:37:36 2023 No.15945538 >>15945527 This picture absolutely dunks on the entire aerospace industry when you factor in that all three boosters in the picture are the same core and are all pre-flown cores too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:45:23 2023 No.15945548 >>15945515 is that from el dos?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:45:58 2023 No.15945549 >>15945527 well there you have it. 96. I wonder why it’s so hard to count

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:56:07 2023 No.15945562 >>15945527 How much does the rest of the world hav?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:58:31 2023 No.15945565 >>15945548 no its some comment on the technology reddit. the only useful comment out of hundreds.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:01:25 2023 No.15945568 >>15945432 you know it doesnt actually look like that right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:18:25 2023 No.15945577 >>15945565 Kill yourself reddit nigger YWNBAW

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:18:33 2023 No.15945579 >>15945118 Do my eyes deceive me? Someone else has seen this movie?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:25:36 2023 No.15945583 >>15945527 Honestly this is a pretty big flex.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:33:03 2023 No.15945588 >>15945565 r/tech is quite the bizarre place. It's like self-hating luddites. For a community discussing technology they sure loath most technology.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:36:00 2023 No.15945589 >>15945178 Man she's so old now

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:36:01 2023 No.15945590 can we please consolidate to ONE sfg going forward? we've had like two in the catalog for the past week. used to be the mods would delete duplicates. idk

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:42:50 2023 No.15945594

>>15945590
Nice try faggot we're not going to your thread. Mods have and continue to leave up the ones that stage, your thread may not be deleted but it is not a real /sfg/. We will continue to stage as normal and ignore your thread, I suggest you do the same with ours and stop bugging us. Go do your own shit and leave us be.
>>15945588
Slit your wrists redditard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:44:59 2023 No.15945597 the /pol/tard is back. yikes.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:49:40 2023 No.15945599

>>15945597
>fuck someone called me out for trying to subvert /sfg/ again
>uhhhh call him a /pol/tard to discredit him
Go back to your thread, havent used anything other than /sfg/ for 2 years now. Also if youre referring to the reddit comment then youre actually a tranny and need to 41% yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:51:24 2023 No.15945600 report and ignore. /sfg/ isn't like your pol. We don't use that sort of slang. It's not our culture.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:54:39 2023 No.15945604 File: 13 KB, 250x281, 1374032485697.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >we >our

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:55:09 2023 No.15945605 >>15945604 yep.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:56:25 2023 No.15945606 >>/sci/image/UfagZOV-30E8P_SDp3l2MA https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/filename/1374032485697.jpg/image/UfagZOV-30E8P_SDp3l2MA/ fascinating

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:58:55 2023 No.15945609

>>15945606
yep, /pol/. Obvious as fuck. it's also fascinating how 'ywnbaw' spammers somehow think they're accepted anywhere on this site outside of their containment board. and how they get all defensive and petulant when their pathetic posts are called out.

he won't leave /sfg/ which is the sad part. he genuinely thinks he's on the 'right side' of it all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:59:24 2023 No.15945611 >>15945590 Janny is still on Christmas break >>15945606 >Ufag lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 07:01:14 2023 No.15945615 >>15945606 a /ptg/ poster? I smell mental illness. dude should really fuck off from /sfg/ for all eternity.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 07:01:15 2023 No.15945616

>>15945606
NTA (Im >>15945599) but the last time that got posted was 2020 from your images. Not sure what this is supposed to prove other than he hasnt been part of those boards for 3 years.
>>15945611
Janny has been online Ive seen posts deleted and bans handed out, just refuses to delete either thread we discussed this I think last thread. Either way we have staged 5 times by now I think since the split and janny has done stuff in between so it looks like this will continue as normal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 07:03:18 2023 No.15945617 >>15945615 Kek true /ptg/gers are actual lobotomites, arent most of those threads made by glownigger bots?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 07:05:58 2023 No.15945618 >>15945617 don't attribute to glowies what can be more easily attributed to a combination of edgy 14 year olds, idiots, and schizos

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 07:09:45 2023 No.15945621

Anyways we wont be using your shitty thread, continuing on as usual until janny does something or the other one dies. Ive sent in reports days ago on that thread and he hasnt done shit so separate threads it is. Send in reports if you want but nothing will get done Ive tried. God this board is such a shithole.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 07:14:14 2023 No.15945624 goodnight /sfg/

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 07:15:47 2023 No.15945625 >>15945624 Night night, dont let the ULA snipers bite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 08:27:10 2023 No.15945676 I bought KSP 2...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 08:30:40 2023 No.15945681 >>15945676 I pirated it and it now actually runs on 3060

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 08:32:43 2023 No.15945684 Kill all KSPggers

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 09:01:51 2023 No.15945722 File: 63 KB, 1179x180, IMG_3485.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Staging >>15945720 >>15945720 >>15945720 >>15945720 >>15945720

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 11:21:18 2023 No.15945799 >>15945676 I knew my /sfg/ KSP 2 marketing campaign would pay off, I'm rich

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:19:19 2023 No.15945843

>>15945056
As I understand it, the theory is this:
For an object travelling at relativistic speeds, the universe closes in on it, creating two parallel event horizon planes
These planes turn the open system of space-time in the direction of travel into a finite space, with two impassable boundaries. That allows you to do some quantum physics witchcraft, and thrust can be generated without a reaction mass, presumably as an interaction with the event horizon(s). It would only violate conservation of energy if the energy isn't used up, which it is during the acceleration of the electrons or whatever, and presumably having some energy disappear is how it generates thrust at all

The other point about the violation of relativity sounds dumb
The thrust can't be constant because the kinetic energy of a craft literally makes it heavier.
Essentially the QI drive is a capacitor failing to hold a charge. The discharges in such a capacitor are relativistically accelerated electrons, and those generate thrust in the opposite direction. It's not impossible for it to work, it's just extremely unlikely. They allege to have tested it thoroughly on earth, and they must believe it to work if they've paid for a rideshare to take the thing to space.

>>15945064
They're not being secretive, they're waiting for everyone else on the rideshare to be finished before they try to alter the orbit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 12:57:56 2023 No.15945877 >>15945579 I haven't see this movie, just the RLM review. :'(

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