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2023's extreme storms, heat and wildfires broke records
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https://phys.org/news/2023-12-extreme-storms-wildfires-broke-recordsa.html

>> No.15931884
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>>15931883

>> No.15931897

>>15931883
Hint hint: it's going to get way, way worse.
There may be no more humans by the end of this century if global average temperature is going to rise up by 4.8C.

>> No.15931984

>>15931897
How in the end a few people dying from malaria and malnutrition won't destroy the human race

>> No.15932042

>>15931883
not here to deny the warming, but measuring disaster impact by a cost threshold is going to show an increase over time just due to increased population and industrialisation, and is thus a dishonest method of measuring the increase of natural disasters.

for the dummies: if the same storm hit a particular city in 1980, the adjusted cost would be under the threshold and wouldn't count to the total. if an equivalent storm hit the same city in 2020, the cost would be above the threshold, and now the number of natural disasters magically increased.

>> No.15932050

>>15931883
It’s just the inflation retards

>> No.15932058

>>15932042 here
the longer i think about this the more angry i get that anyone would ever use this as a good-faith argument.
>cost of building materials doubles
twice as many natural disasters.
>government codes enforce more costly building practices by a factor of 2
twice as many natural disasters now.
>infrastucture rebuilding increases non-linearly with population size
more natural disasters pulled out of nowhere.

obviously those are pulled out of my ass, but i'm sure a significant enough part of that change can be explained ecenomically.

>>15932050
fwiw it says it is adjusted

>> No.15932074

>>15931883
yup. everything's getting more expensive, even the climate.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IaEgcRgE__M

>> No.15932497

>>15931883
>I present you the contender for most useless infographic, the infamous inflation graph!
>Who will win, inflation graph or the population density map? Find out after the break!

>> No.15932524
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>>15931883
>literally boiling frogs
Fags on /sci/ will NEVER believe in climate change, not least because they never go outside.

>> No.15932549

It's a good thing history begun in 1980

>> No.15932574

>>15931984
Good luck surviving or sustaining yourself with agriculture in extremely chaotic and unpredictable climate.

>> No.15932589

>>15932549
No it began 4000 years ago. When Adam and Eve fucked with a snake or some shit.

>> No.15932707

>>15932058
Yes, but it's probably using overall inflation when both infrastructure and housing costs have increased far more than overall inflation. Some of it also is more demand for housing and infrastructure in flood zones, especially coastal areas. Back when land's value was primarily based on how good it was for agriculture, coastal land was next to worthless and hardly anyone lived there with the exception of harbors that could serve as ports. Living on a sandy beach next to salt water would have got you pity, not envy.

>> No.15932727

1 billion dollars in damage is like three broken windows and two leaking roofs these days.

>> No.15933165

>>15931984
>few people dying
Last estimate I saw was 1B dead from food shortages and 500M climate refugees.

>> No.15933215

>>15931883
>starts in 1980
lol. also i do the opposite of what scientists/experts/journalists are whinging about since covid.

>> No.15933760

>>15933165
this can't be predicted in any meaningful way
are you retarded?