/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.15927989]

Two Weeks Renewed Edition

Previous - >>15925393

[Anonymous No.15927995]

First for robotic arms inside the tanks manually zzucking the bubbles so that no dV is wated spinning the craft. Not to scale.

[Anonymous No.15928006]

space is big

[Anonymous No.15928011]

Yeah, let's not do that again, shall we? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.15928021]

Our girl made it
https://x.com/ISAS_JAXA/status/1734490833230176706?s=20

[Anonymous No.15928038]

kerbal and anime poster out the airlock, together :flushed:

[Anonymous No.15928044]

>spaceX engineers fear this.

[Anonymous No.15928046]

Leviathon

[Anonymous No.15928051]

>>15928044
Does it actually work at those temperatures?

[Anonymous No.15928055]

>>15927995
You're fired.

[Anonymous No.15928057]

It's actually that easy in rocketry.

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1736091520024096995

[Anonymous No.15928058]

>>15928051
>does rubber work at cryogenic temperatures
I'll give you one guess

[Anonymous No.15928059]

>>15928051
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15928062]

>>15928059
please dont tell me youe serious. fyi everyone who knows anything about rockets is glad that engine was cancelled.

[Anonymous No.15928095]

>>15928044
it's that easy in rocketry

[Anonymous No.15928122]

[Anonymous No.15928130]

Why do you only ever really see one spin hab on ships, doesn't it make more sense to have two? If you have one to counterrotate against you can spin up with a motor without affecting the positioning of the central shaft. And you don't need propellants and it can act as a big flywheel for energy storage. Are there physical gyroscopic effects I missing?

[Anonymous No.15928131]

how'd ship 28 testing go? whats next after this?

[Anonymous No.15928168]

>>15928044
>>15928095
Do you retards realize that pressurization does not prevent sloshing?

[Anonymous No.15928173]

>>15928168
kek, fucking nigger seething. kys nigger.

[Anonymous No.15928191]

>>15928173
fuck off, tranny

[Anonymous No.15928199]

>>15928131
static fires and then months of stacking and de stacking.

[Anonymous No.15928203]

>>15928131
OFT-3

[Anonymous No.15928207]

https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1734619131180204244
>We’re targeting a launch window that opens on Dec. 18 for our next New Shepard payload mission. #NS24 will carry 33 science and research payloads as well as 38,000 @clubforfuture postcards to space. #FortheBenefitofEarth

Gradatim Ferociter, it only took them fifteen months

[Anonymous No.15928208]

>>15928130
You're asking serious questions of the most unqualified people to answer.

[Anonymous No.15928211]

Mainstream basedence has no explanation for the abundance of heavier elements https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poi2ibNtXqQ

While /sci/zos correctly identify it to be condensed from aether under high gravity

[Anonymous No.15928216]

>>15927995
actually a good idea

[Anonymous No.15928223]

>>15928211
Nah just microwave background is misinterpreted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgov_Radio-Optical_Telescope

[Anonymous No.15928226]

>>15928207
>still not going to orbit

[Anonymous No.15928236]

>>15928207
Sir, this is a spaceflight general.

[Anonymous No.15928243]

>>15928236
There's so little spaceflight going on right now we had someone kerbalspamming in the last thread. We need to take what launches we can get.

Besides, the last one exploded. This one might be exciting too.

[Anonymous No.15928246]

would picrel work to prevent sloshing?

[Anonymous No.15928289]

>>15928236
BO is spaceflight adjacent because they sue real spaceflight companies

[Anonymous No.15928293]

1997 was the advent of the AI.

sauce: CUBE

[Anonymous No.15928294]

[Anonymous No.15928296]

>>15927995
They should just refuel the tank with fuel as it burns so that it never gets bubbles in the first place.

[Anonymous No.15928298]

>>15928044
Honestly, who wouldn't?

[Anonymous No.15928311]

>>15928294
It's not nice to make fun of the senile.

[Anonymous No.15928316]

>>15928294
that's as much as zoomers can pay attention to. it's adjusted to *current times*

[Anonymous No.15928324]

>>15928130
Mostly because those renders come from people who are obsessing about mass budgets and centrifuges are heavy.

[Anonymous No.15928330]

>>15928211
That's not what the paper is about. They present an argument from abundance patterns that elements above uranium are partially products of fission of even more massive nuclei. Indirect evidence that the R process in supernovae creating neutron rich super-heavy nuclei beyond atomic masses of 260, which quickly decay. It's actually a nice test of the standard picture of nucleosynthesis in supernovea.

>correctly identify it to be condensed from aether under high gravity
And can you calculate abundance patterns from this, or is it just word salad?

>>15928223
Oh look more irrelevent bullshit. Reminder that Herouni never measured no CMB. The CMB is definitely real and not local. The fact that galaxy clusters leave shadows on the CMB proves it is more distant, and this is definitely the case as hundreds of new galaxy clusters have been found this way.

[Anonymous No.15928354]

New article by ringwatchers
>Feeding The Beast: Super Heavy's Propellant Distribution System

https://ringwatchers.com/article/booster-prop-distribution

[Anonymous No.15928364]

>>15928191
What was the message replied to here

[Anonymous No.15928368]

Why is the ISS such a piece of shit?

[Anonymous No.15928374]

>>15928368
Entirely oldspace made. Next question?

[Anonymous No.15928376]

>>15928364
Download 4chanX to find out.

[Anonymous No.15928379]

>>15928376
No fuck off stop trying to infect my PC

[Anonymous No.15928408]

>>15928368
It's a deliberately crippled version of Space Station Freedom built by a deliberately crippled version of STS so that the zombified post Soviet Russians could staple their bits of Mir 2 to it and keep them occupied until all their dangerous engineers were dead or retired.

Frankly the science done onboard was a secondary bonus.

[Anonymous No.15928423]

spehs

[Anonymous No.15928553]

>>15928207
I was really hoping they would go the entirety of 2023 without even launching

[Anonymous No.15928562]

>>15928553
There's always that chance of a scrub because of GSE issues. We've only got two weeks left in the year. It could still happen.

[Anonymous No.15928565]

That's quite interesting
https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1736476545533837368

[Anonymous No.15928576]

FH when aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.15928592]

>>15928565
why is his whole family mutts

[Anonymous No.15928594]

https://ringwatchers.com/article/booster-prop-distribution

[Anonymous No.15928628]

https://twitter.com/Space_Time3/status/1736478318608691228

Interview with starlink engineer

[Anonymous No.15928645]

>>15928628
dios mio

[Anonymous No.15928671]

>alien dreadnought
holy fucking cringe SHUT THE FUCK UP ELON

[Anonymous No.15928673]

>>15928592
SEAmaxxing

[Anonymous No.15928682]

>>15928671
wut?

[Anonymous No.15928686]

>>15928671
What are you talkinga about?

[Anonymous No.15928688]

>>15928673
GEG it got deleted

[Anonymous No.15928689]

>>15928671
You came to the wrong board, buddy.

[Anonymous No.15928697]

Why doesnt elon launch Starship point to point to Gaza for humanitarian aid?

[Anonymous No.15928698]

Good thread so far even if its slow

[Anonymous No.15928700]

>>15928697
Offtopic fuck off kike

[Anonymous No.15928702]

NSF is live and talking about HLS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaGKcqgpHc0

[Anonymous No.15928703]

>>15928697
he's mad at them for having better tunnel tech

[Anonymous No.15928705]

>>15928697
Ignoring all geopolitical attributes and realities for a minute, it can't happen because it doesn't work yet.

[Anonymous No.15928708]

>>15928697
>>15928703
This, he wants everyone to forget about Boring company

[Anonymous No.15928722]

>>15928702
I'm not going to watch it. but since you seem so interested is there any worthwhile new info in it?

[Anonymous No.15928728]

>>15928697
Because it doesnt work plain and simple

[Anonymous No.15928731]

>>15928722
I'm not watching it, though

[Anonymous No.15928734]

>>15928702
what is THAT

[Anonymous No.15928738]

>>15928702
What is that thing

That does not pass my smell test

[Anonymous No.15928739]

>>15928734
A nerd and a woman with a linebacker jaw.

[Anonymous No.15928744]

>>15928734
>>15928738
Overweight woman
https://youtu.be/XP1CQtV8Qk8

[Anonymous No.15928750]

>>15928744
hey, you know what? would

[Anonymous No.15928757]

>>15928750
Would what?

[Anonymous No.15928758]

submit your papers please

[Anonymous No.15928770]

>>15928207
if New Shephard flying science and not people is spaceflight then so is HIMARS

[Anonymous No.15928775]

>>15928376
the /sci/ archives don't work with 4chanX

[Anonymous No.15928776]

B7 should have never flown. SN9 should have never flown.

[Anonymous No.15928798]

>>15928697
It's not so simple in rocketry.

[Anonymous No.15928811]

>>15928776
Wrong.
ALL flight hardware should either end up in a fireball or a museum.

[Anonymous No.15928828]

>>15928628
rip that guy's job probably

[Anonymous No.15928887]

>>15928130
an argument for a single centrifugal habitat would be that counterbalancing it with a regular (uninhabited) gyroscope gives you more options for manuevering than counterbalancing it with another habitat.
say you want to stabilize or change your craft's attitude quickly, and you want to use gyroscopes only, because electricity is free and fuel is not. If all of your flywheels are also habitats, you can't rapidly accelerate or reverse their rotation, with a gyroscope you can. I reckon that even gently utilizing a rotating habitat for attitude control would be nauseating for the inhabitants, so ideally you want a gyro anyways.
one gyro and one rotating habitat would be more minimal than two habitats and an additional flywheel for attitude control.

[Anonymous No.15928949]

/sfg/ is dead (and thats good)

[Anonymous No.15928976]

>>15928949
it's better than frogposters

[Anonymous No.15928977]

>>15928949
hibernating

[Anonymous No.15928982]

>>15928887
>I reckon that even gently utilizing a rotating habitat for attitude control would be nauseating for the inhabitants,
And fast attitude changes by any other means won't be?

[Anonymous No.15928994]

>>15928949
One thread every few days would be a perfectly fine speed imo, there's no need for daily threads.

[Anonymous No.15928999]

>>15928982
Much less so if the hab maintains constant RPM.

[Anonymous No.15929015]

>>15928999
I am going to put you in the multi axis trainer

[Anonymous No.15929018]

Outgassing question directly addressed, also ballpark on efficiency.
>0.9mN from <2W
>better than 0.00045N/W
For reference that's about twice the efficiency of the thruster design proposed for HOPE MPD.
https://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist.php#mpd

https://nitter.net/RaMansell/status/1736383906553663994#m

[Anonymous No.15929031]

>>15928982
not even fast changes, even slight changes in attitude on a ship like >>15928130 would surely require a lot of force, since the engine and fuel tanks are far from the center and look heavy.
if a gyro wheel somewhere else on the craft rapidly changes its velocity, thus slightly affecting overall attitude, the people in the ring would only notice a slight attitude change.
if the habitat spins to achieve the change in attitude, there would be a potentially rapid acceleration directly on the habitat itself, as well as the same change in attitude.

[Anonymous No.15929055]

>>15928702
"""HUMAN"""

[Anonymous No.15929160]

>>15929031
Yeah, I absolutely agree that using the hab as a reaction wheel is horrible even for slight adjustments that would otherwise be fine, but the post I replied to proposed
>say you want to ... change your craft's attitude quickly
And if your craft has a centrifugal hab section, you really really don't want to, by any means whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.15929163]

Enceladus is producing organic compounds including HCN.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-evidence-discovered-that-saturns-moon-could-support-life/

[Anonymous No.15929179]

>>15929163
fuck yeah cyanide based life let's go

[Anonymous No.15929211]

>>15928423
>nasa
>spaceflight
choose one

[Anonymous No.15929215]

I was thinking, what use cases could there be for Gravitcs and Vasts starship sized space station modules?

I imagine you could slap a nuclear reactor in one, stick a bunch together and then have a date center in space.

Is that feasible?

[Anonymous No.15929217]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6EVP3AtD4Q

[Anonymous No.15929219]

>>15929215
>Is that feasible?
No. Building it on the surface will still be cheaper and more convenient.

[Anonymous No.15929261]

Imagine the smell
https://x.com/skyroota/status/1736576104272421090?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

[Anonymous No.15929272]

>>15929261
Designated shitting quadrant

[Anonymous No.15929289]

>>15928207
I just realized something about New Shepard that's wasted design. Since the legs of the first stage have to support the landing mass of the entire stage + residual fuel, the total mass of that is probably equal to or greater than the weight of the capsule (fully loaded). Which means that they could have reversed the meca-shift legs they deploy during the landing sequence and used them to hold the capsule up and then when the capsule disconnects near the karman line, those struts would recede back into the core stage. Instead, they have extra struts that holds the capsule like a crown, and is an added sub assembly to the process--which increases complexity all around.

[Anonymous No.15929290]

>>15929215
I don't really see data centers ever being useful in space. Sure you might have cheap solar but the amount of radiators you're going to need would be ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.15929299]

>>15929290
And data centers do need fairly regular maintenance. Getting IT staff into low Earth orbit to find out why one of the server racks is misbehaving is a pain that no data storage provider is going to want to deal with.

[Anonymous No.15929306]

it's over

[Anonymous No.15929307]

>>15929306
FUUUUUUUUUCK

[Anonymous No.15929308]

>>15929307
gottem

[Anonymous No.15929316]

>>15929306
Supposedly hasn't turned the thruster on yet so the thing can outgas in space, but yeah, that looks like a slow orbital decay to me.

[Anonymous No.15929318]

>>15929316
yep nothing yet

god im boreed

[Anonymous No.15929323]

>>15929299
there's no reason not to have a datacenter on your O'Neal cylinder but yeah, free floating or on smaller space stations with sensible links to existing datacenters it's not worth it

[Anonymous No.15929325]

>>15929308
At least we still have pulsed solid-core NTR to cope with

[Anonymous No.15929330]

https://twitter.com/RaMansell/status/1736412655617769498
>About 1mN between both Drives (.25mN in one Drive and .65mN in the other).

That's not much is it

[Anonymous No.15929336]

>>15929330
If the drive functions, it's infinite delta-V as long as the sun shines, pretty much no matter how low the thrust is.

[Anonymous No.15929338]

>>15929336
I guess, and it can also be scaled up I think with larger sats

[Anonymous No.15929349]

So this thing can't even stop itself from deorbiting?

[Anonymous No.15929358]

Lol get fucked QIcel. Now shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.15929362]

>>15929349
hasn't been activated yet

>>15929358
>>15929361

[Anonymous No.15929363]

>>15929349
It just needs to be put into a higher orbit.

[Anonymous No.15929375]

[Anonymous No.15929379]

>>15929375

[Anonymous No.15929380]

>>15928293
I'm going to watch this anime now because of this post, it better be good anon

[Anonymous No.15929383]

>>15928293
>>15929380
Thats not CUBE retard thats ID:Invaded

[Anonymous No.15929384]

>>15929383
i know that you little sperg

[Anonymous No.15929387]

>>15929384
Töte dich, Jude

[Anonymous No.15929393]

>>15929290
The chips are the radiators

[Anonymous No.15929395]

>>15929330
it's important to keep the extremely low power usage in mind when comparing it to an existing ion engine.
the current best state of the art thrust per watt for an ion engine would be producing roughly 0.001mN of thrust per watt or about 1000x less mN/kW; and, it would also have a limited fuel supply.
That is of course assuming the schizodrive actually works to begin with.

I think the efficiency numbers are the hardest pill to swallow for me, moreso than the entirely-new-domain-of-physics relying on virtual particle bullshit. 1 millinewton per watt is retardedly good already, but McCulloch claims it could even do 50x more than that at 52mN per watt. If that's real then forget about any other kind of propulsion for anything beyond surface-to-orbit for deep gravity wells like earth. don't even bother with nuclear thermal, solar electric schizodrive would rape it all the way to the kuiper belt

[Anonymous No.15929397]

>>15929395
nuclear schizodrive though

[Anonymous No.15929399]

>>15929397
alpha centauri in a single crew lifespan, no cryomeme needed

[Anonymous No.15929401]

>>15929399
this is "the road not taken" tier shit

[Anonymous No.15929456]

>>15929395
>52mN per watt
You could definitely make a spaceplane with this.

[Anonymous No.15929467]

>>15929456
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.15929476]

>>15929395
>52mN per watt.
what sort of thrust are we talking about if you clustered a few thousand of these

[Anonymous No.15929482]

>>15929476
0N. Calling the tail a leg doesn't make it one.

[Anonymous No.15929485]

>>15929476
52 millinewtons is equal to .052 newtons, multiply that by 3000 (a few thousands) and you get 156 newtons. That's equivalent to 156 apples falling from a tree onto Newton's head.

[Anonymous No.15929487]

>>15929485
This message was brought to you by ChatGPT

[Anonymous No.15929494]

>The FH launch will be delayed another 2 weeks because a codemonkey intern forgot to square his P's and Q's
Fuck's sake. Would it kill Elon not to outsource to India for a flight of importance?

[Anonymous No.15929497]

>>15929485
why do they use newtons instead of something we can actually grasp

[Anonymous No.15929501]

More like Jewton, stop trying to 'conserve' all this energy greedy cheapskate.

[Anonymous No.15929619]

>Elon Musk has spoken out, saying that we should not demonise oil and gas, but seek to have a sustainable energy future - gradually. He further added that "Climate change alarm is exaggerated in the short term."

based

[Anonymous No.15929638]

>>15929330
is there sny estimates for when will the experiment conclude for the schizodrive? just want to see what shitty excuse they'll come up with when it fails badly to milk investors and sponsors dry.

[Anonymous No.15929645]

>>15929330
schizodrive bros....

[Anonymous No.15929659]

Roll!

[Anonymous No.15929662]

>>15929645
>Th-th-they haven't turned it on yet, r-r-right?

[Anonymous No.15929688]

https://twitter.com/andyohlbaum/status/1735786033453863422
we aren't going to space bros....

[Anonymous No.15929689]

>>15929031
>>15929160
interesting, thanks.

[Anonymous No.15929692]

>>15929688
I wonder what happened in the 70s?

[Anonymous No.15929696]

Meanwhile on the ISS
https://gizmodo.com/nasa-iss-tomato-found-frank-rubio-1851084372
>NASA’s Veg-05 experiment, a project focusing on growing fruits and vegetables in space, experienced an unusual turn of events when a Red Robin dwarf tomato vanished shortly after being harvested in March.
>This tomato, part of a study to explore the feasibility of continuous fresh-food production in space, was finally found, NASA astronaut Jasmin Moghbeli revealed during a livestream on December 6.
>“Our good friend Frank Rubio, who headed home [on September 27], has been blamed for quite a while for eating the tomato. But we can exonerate him. We found the tomato.”
>Rubio, who spent a record 371 days in space, mused about the missing tomato, saying: “I spent so many hours looking for that thing. I’m sure the desiccated tomato will show up at some point and vindicate me, years in the future.”

[Anonymous No.15929697]

>>15929688
>that video
its SO over

[Anonymous No.15929705]

>>15929696
the iss really needs more people on it

[Anonymous No.15929707]

>>15928330
>Herouni never measured no CMB
Yes because there is none

[Anonymous No.15929719]

>>15929688

[Anonymous No.15929722]

>>15929662
>>15929645
imagine if they had it facing the wrong way lmao

[Anonymous No.15929724]

>>15929662
It hasn't been turned on yet. They're waiting their turn since the satellite has multiple experiments running on it.

[Anonymous No.15929725]

>>15929688
>>15929719
This is a good thing. Humanity hasn't had proper predation in eons. We will be better for this.

[Anonymous No.15929734]

>>15929688
>/pol/tards on /sfg/ JUST finding out about stuff like this
You guys are like 12 months behind the curve. There's been AI chatbot porn/GF experiences where you can provide custom prompts and scenarios for more then a year now.

[Anonymous No.15929738]

>>15929734
>no Krystal
the tech isn't ready. give it a decade or 2

[Anonymous No.15929740]

>>15929734
not with a 3d model and audio
well besides that one project that sucked

[Anonymous No.15929743]

>>15929738
>no Krystal
wrong
4 krystal cards are uploaded

[Anonymous No.15929744]

>>15929743
I guess it really is over for /sfg/ then. :'(

[Anonymous No.15929755]

>>15929734
Humanity is doomed

[Anonymous No.15929757]

>>15929734
for me? its NTR mom Kyouko

[Anonymous No.15929769]

>>15929692
The women's liberation movement (WLM) was a political alignment of women and feminist intellectualism that emerged in the late 1960s and continued into the 1980s primarily in the industrialized nations of the Western world, which effected great change (political, intellectual, cultural) throughout the world.

[Anonymous No.15929772]

>>15929707
Now try reconciling that with the existence of the SZ effect.
You're very confident about something which disagrees completely with hundreds of independent experiments.

[Anonymous No.15929774]

>>15929705
imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.15929780]

I'm still upset that faggot branson let this thing die

[Anonymous No.15929792]

>>15929780
Why? Wasn't it a money pit with no real world usage?

[Anonymous No.15929794]

>>15929792
It was fucking cool and I would have liked them increase the cadence and develop other rockets

[Anonymous No.15929797]

>>15929792
would it be viable as an air launched ballistic missile? feels like it would

[Anonymous No.15929799]

>>15928697
>100 tons of antipersonnel cluster bombs and 50 tons of bunker busters per flight
Yeah, he should definitely send starship to Gaza

[Anonymous No.15929802]

when is the skibidi origin webcast coming online fr fr?

[Anonymous No.15929804]

>>15929501
>(((Isaac))) Newton was appointed Warden of the (((Royal Mint))) in the spring of 1696 on the recommendation of Charles Montague, Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Trying to conserve all them coins more like.

[Anonymous No.15929808]

>>15929797
Sure, if your payload was a ball bearing.

[Anonymous No.15929816]

What are the advantages and drawbacks of air launch? I get that there are structural difficulties with hanging a fueled rocket horizontally, and having a plane as launch platform restricts the rocket in size and adds cost and complexity to the system as a whole.

LauncherOne doesn't seem to be going anywhere anymore. However, China's CASC is supposedly working on a reusable air launched liquid propellant rocket. What would be the reason? I assume it is for military requirements.

[Anonymous No.15929817]

>>15929816
At least they are studying it, according to this article
https://spacenews.com/chinas-reusable-rocket-race-heats-up-with-new-hop-test/

[Anonymous No.15929818]

>tfw Maiaspace actually has 125 millions euros of internal funding
>Actually ZQ-2 class
yeah ok, this is going to murder every other european small launch vehicle.

[Anonymous No.15929819]

>>15929816
You can launch from without countries without domestic spaceflight programs to make them feel better about themselves, like a celebrity visiting children with terminal illnesses.

[Anonymous No.15929821]

OH MY SKIBIDI WHY DID THEY SCRUB THE OHIO ROCKET????
L RIZZ ORIGIN

[Anonymous No.15929822]

>>15929816
The advantage is that the plane is basically a cheap reusable 1st stage, the disadvantage is that it's a shitty 1st stage.

[Anonymous No.15929823]

>>15929816
you can flex your status as world police by flying 50 hours just to launch one missile

[Anonymous No.15929828]

>>15929821
You need to leave now

[Anonymous No.15929831]

>>15929395
Good, less worrying about what propulsion to use and more worrying about what we are gonna do when we get there, what science to send, lets fucking gooo

[Anonymous No.15929832]

>>15928294
Both of them are talking complete crap. Even JFK didn't give a shit about space until they shilled the beating the Soviets aspect to him. He did the before the end of the decade speech because he knew he would have been long gone from the office by then.

>>15928368
Not wide enough modules gives cuck vibes instead of the chad vibes of Skylab or Starship.

[Anonymous No.15929833]

>>15929734
What site was this again? All my focus and attention has been on imagegen since 2021 desu

[Anonymous No.15929837]

>>15929816
I think
(1) You can launch in almost any weather
(2) You can turn any airport that has a cryogenic air separator nearby into an orbital launch site, even airports not located in places suitable for your target orbit. It becomes even more convenient if the rocket engine can run on regular jet fuel. So you immediately create up to hundreds of launch sites in the country without having to build any ground infrastructure

[Anonymous No.15929838]

>>15929833
chub.ai or character hub

[Anonymous No.15929844]

>>15929838
neat

[Anonymous No.15929846]

>>15929838
>18358 Total Results

Man thats insane

[Anonymous No.15929850]

>>15928702
Lynchian

[Anonymous No.15929852]

>Blue Origin says it is scrubbing today's launch of the New Shepard NS-24 mission to troubleshoot a ground systems issue

[Anonymous No.15929858]

has the space force falcon heavy launched yet? it scrubbed a while ago and I stopped paying attention

[Anonymous No.15929859]

>>15929833
The site doesn't do it on it's own, need to load it into sillyTavern or some other kind of wrapper. Check /aicg/ on /g/ for more info

[Anonymous No.15929865]

more evidence that space crap is for dumb faggots

[Anonymous No.15929868]

>>15929858
its scheduled for 28/12 now

[Anonymous No.15929869]

>>15929865
>Article posted 2021
Anon.... how did you find this?

[Anonymous No.15929878]

>>15929865
is there something you're not telling us, anon

[Anonymous No.15929889]

>>15929868
>The 28th month

[Anonymous No.15929891]

Meanwhile, at NASA:

https://x.com/NASA_Johnson/status/1736770415257591904?s=20

[Anonymous No.15929896]

>>15929891
>weeee
they should donate that to some playground when the mission's over

[Anonymous No.15929898]

>>15929497
If you keep the spacecraft mass in kg it makes it really easy to do metric delta V calculations.

[Anonymous No.15929900]

>>15928562
You called it

[Anonymous No.15929907]

>>15929891
what a stupid lame waste of funds, are astronauts really so immature and low IQ that they need to practice basic stuff like that?

[Anonymous No.15929916]

Getting ready for IFT-3

[Anonymous No.15929931]

>>15929738
>>15929743
Kill yourself Noa

[Anonymous No.15929939]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1736800804219269489

[Anonymous No.15929942]

>>15929939
Post on flickr, bitch bastards

[Anonymous No.15929944]

Uranus Wide

https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2023/150/01HHFPR4A292D6X984CZ5QWD7J

[Anonymous No.15929946]

That look like a dent to anyone else?
https://twitter.com/StarshipGazer/status/1736798276828246264?t=ru9Vhndjm3pkjo7nEXF9YQ&s=19

[Anonymous No.15929949]

>>15929946
yeah but don't worry about it, rocketry is pretty easy

[Anonymous No.15929951]

>GATEWAY TO MARS
>CVLEMVA LO WVK2

[Anonymous No.15929961]

>>15929497
Why are Newtons hard to grasp? If you want to think of it in terms of weight on Earth, 10 Newtons is about the weight of a one liter milk carton. F = ma, where m = 1kg and a = g = 9.8m/s^2

What would be hard to grasp would be measuring in terms of force exerted by as many full 16-multiples of pieces of gravel that can fit on an upside down sheep's hoof at sea level on a windy day in West Sussex, or whatever the equivalent imperial unit is

[Anonymous No.15929966]

>>15929822
So under what circumstances does a plane become worth it?

[Anonymous No.15929970]

>>15929966
When it flies at least as high and as fast as SR-71, dropping a rocket from 747 is pointless.

[Anonymous No.15929976]

B10 is under the launch tower and nobody told me??? What the fuck /sfg/

[Anonymous No.15929978]

>>15929976
this thread has 2 images of the rollout and 2 of it at the tower. thats on you

[Anonymous No.15929982]

>>15929976
I sent you a PM on discord

[Anonymous No.15930023]

>>15929970
Waverider hypersonic airlaunch of modified orbital X-15s would have been SO MUCH COOLER than jerking around with capsules for decades.

[Anonymous No.15930030]

>>15929916
do they even know what lead to starship tumbling yet?

[Anonymous No.15930036]

>>15930030
uneven thrust

[Anonymous No.15930039]

>>15930036
when was that announced?

[Anonymous No.15930041]

>>15930039
That's common sense.

[Anonymous No.15930042]

>>15929828
ratio

[Anonymous No.15930045]

>>15930042
Sir, this is 4channel.

[Anonymous No.15930046]

>>15930030
Flight 2 didn't experience any tumbling.
cause behind Flight 1 tumbling was already known before Flight 2

fires in the engine bay fried avionics
thrust vector control stopped working
third of the engines were out
and the center engines were stuck

[Anonymous No.15930048]

>>15930045
4channel is dead

[Anonymous No.15930053]

>>15930045
no, this is 4chan

[Anonymous No.15930054]

>>15929961
>10 Newtons is about the weight of a one liter milk carton. F = ma, where m = 1kg and a = g = 9.8m/s^2
how is weight equal to force
it just doesn't fit

[Anonymous No.15930079]

take the CUDOpill
http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~rafelski/PS/21JulySopron.pdf

[Anonymous No.15930092]

>>15930079
TLDR?

[Anonymous No.15930099]

>>15930092
read, nigger, read

[Anonymous No.15930102]

>>15930099
I worked my ass off this semester going through shit. I dont want to have to think about numbers over my Christmas break.

[Anonymous No.15930103]

>>15930079
I'm not reading that but I did skim through it and failed to find the krystal porn

[Anonymous No.15930137]

>>15930102
OK, the upshot is that there seem to be a lot of asteroids with anomalous densities. Densities far higher than expected with normal matter

[Anonymous No.15930139]

>>15930137
amogus densities
sus

[Anonymous No.15930147]

>>15930079
>university of arizona
possibly the dumbest school in the entirety of academia, is that one of the nimcos idiots?

[Anonymous No.15930150]

>>15930147
>possibly the dumbest school in the entirety of academia
Details pls. I need war stories for a former ASU prof I know.

[Anonymous No.15930151]

>>15930041
so you're saying you have no idea why

>>15930046
where was that announced?

[Anonymous No.15930156]

>>15930092
Observations of diameter and mass estimates on one particular asteroid, Polyhmnia, yield an impossibly high density (over 3x as dense as pure osmium) unless it's made of elements much heavier than any of the discovered elements on the periodic table. The measurement technique is probably flawed.

[Anonymous No.15930159]

>>15930156
most of those can be pretty easily explained away as crap measurements, but 57 Mnemosyne because it's big enough they should be able to get a good read on it and it's still denser than if it were made of pure lead.
can they spectroscopy it? has anyone?

[Anonymous No.15930174]

>>15930156
>one particular asteroid
There are over a dozen on the list

[Anonymous No.15930184]

>>15930156
>>15930159
no asteroids like that exist, those are just tall tales made up by liars seeking media attention and fame. asteroids all have densities between 1 and 5 g/cc

[Anonymous No.15930197]

>>15930174
True, but that's the big one: a huge discrepancy, tight error bars, and a reasonably constrained diameter through multiple independent measurements.

[Anonymous No.15930211]

>Starlink is now live in Eswatini, marking the 8th country and 10 overall market in Africa where service is available

https://x.com/Starlink/status/1736841420970066082?s=20

[Anonymous No.15930234]

>>15930054
Weight is force caused by gravity

[Anonymous No.15930237]

Can anyone in the industry give me some tips? Going to be graduating soon and any pointers/tips would be greatly appreciated. How do I make myself stand out and show that I have space autism.

[Anonymous No.15930242]

>>15930211
>Eswatini
i had to google this. countries need to stop changing their names every few years.

[Anonymous No.15930266]

>>15930237
>How do I make myself stand out and show that I have space autism.
Nobody cares about that. Just show that you're a competent person.
Also, go to Locksneed.

[Anonymous No.15930286]

>>15930184
>survey of asteroids barely underway
>anon already knows all important parameters

[Anonymous No.15930288]

>>15929765

[Anonymous No.15930297]

>>15930288
it's over

[Anonymous No.15930301]

USSF say they think China's CZ-5B marginal cost of launch is $3,000 per kg payload.

Isn't Falcon 9 $2.7k/kg? SpaceX's internal pricetag might be lower, and the marginal cost is certainly lower, however the Chinese price tag estimate seems to be in the same ballpark.

China wants to mainly rely on the CZ-5B and CZ-8 to launch their Guowang constellation. They intend to ramp up CZ-5B launches, and launch 50 CZ-8 and 10 CZ-7A per year. CZ-5/7/8 are all CALT rockets. Historically, SAST has been responsible for about 40% of CASC rockets. So I assume SAST will produce a comparable number of CZ-6/6A/6C. The Shanghai municipal government mentioned plans to build 50 商业火箭 "commercial rockets" per year starting in 2025.

If the $3k/kg price tag is true, it makes sense why they think they can rely on the CZ-5-8 to launch their Guowang constellation and why CASC isn't too hurried with the reusable CZ-10A. They get reasonable price while maintaining the schedule predictability that comes from relying on proven conservative technology, while other Chinese companies can hurry chasing a Falcon 9 equivalent. CZ-5B is 8x YF-100 + 2x YF-77 for 25,000kg to LEO. CZ-8 is 4x YF-100 + 2x YF-75 for 8,100kg to LEO. So CZ-8 might have a similar price tag per kg.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/12/a-top-secret-chinese-spy-satellite-just-launched-on-a-super-sized-rocket/2/
https://spacenews.com/china-looks-to-long-march-8-rocket-to-help-launch-its-answer-to-starlink/
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1612289298799415296
https://spacenews.com/china-wants-to-ramp-up-the-launch-rate-of-its-long-march-5b-rocket
https://www.shanghai.gov.cn/nw12344/20231120/5e53f1fe1b1543f38a49153eb563cfbb.html

[Anonymous No.15930313]

>>15930301
You can't hit that pricetag on an expendable without tradeoffs. What's the catch? The cost of labor in China is certainly low, but that can't be something that makes qualified rocket scientists and aerospace engineers happy, and CASC hasn't been building very many CZ-5s.

[Anonymous No.15930314]

>>15930211
HOOTINI

[Anonymous No.15930325]

>>15930313
>CASC hasn't been building very many CZ-5s.
He's talking about the marginal cost, not total cost, so fixed initial costs e.g. R&D and tooling are not included in that price tag.

Although, in many cases marginal cost can decrease even more if production rate increases. While the CZ-5 hasn't launched a lot yet, it shares the YF-100 engine and 3.35 tank diameter with other rockets. There's also probably various general things it shares with China's launch industry in general, such as computers, valves, sensors, etc.

[Anonymous No.15930341]

>>15930313
China is building and launching expendable rockets at a rate by a single country not seen since the days of the Soviet Union. Given their plans, that are already working on implementing, they are likely to surpass the USSR soon, both in number of launches and in mass to orbit. China probably has a great deal of streamlining and economies of scale in the industry, wringing out the lowest unit cost possible.

[Anonymous No.15930352]

>>15930301
$3k per kg when including heavy government subsidies masking the actual cost.

[Anonymous No.15930357]

>>15930341
>China is building and launching expendable rockets at a rate by a single country not seen since the days of the Soviet Union

Most of which are old LM-2 and -3, not newer bigger rockets like -5.

[Anonymous No.15930368]

>>15930352
CASC is 100% owned by the state, directly reporting to the State Council. Subsidizing its direct activities would be pointless, merely an accounting exercise. Besides, I would think that the USSF would have tried estimate the real cost and take any accounting tricks, if they exist, into account.

[Anonymous No.15930371]

>>15930357
While the engines are different models and they launch from different sites, there is probably a lot of commonality in other parts and operations. And the Chinese have already paid to lay a lot of the groundwork for a major ramp-up of YF-100-based rockets

[Anonymous No.15930384]

>>15930266
Do this if you want to do nothing and get money. Go to SpaceX for fulfillment and nonstop work so you dont feel like a useless fuck.

[Anonymous No.15930390]

>>15930371
CZ5 is Hydrolox and Kerolox, while CZ2 is hypergols; the bulk of the important stuff like systems engineering and valve systems aren't interchangeable. Hell, even the structures and materials aren't really interchangeable.

[Anonymous No.15930399]

>>15930368
>merely an accounting exercise

Welcome to China.

[Anonymous No.15930401]

>>15930371
There is nothing in common between LM-2/3/4 and -5+

[Anonymous No.15930408]

>>15929946
>>15929949
It'll pop out once properly pressurized

[Anonymous No.15930423]

>>15929946
We've had much bigger dents before.

[Anonymous No.15930425]

>>15930390
>valve systems aren't interchangeable
>Hell, even the structures and materials aren't really interchangeable
Even when components aren't the same, the facilities and machines for making, storing and transporting them and their components might be

Some things that might perhaps have a great deal of commonality, that I can think of:
* General overhead that exists in any organization
* Various storage, production and transport facilities of AALPT, CAAET, and CALT
* Tank diameter and its production facilities
* Electronics, sensors, telemetry systems, ground stations, and the means of their production and operation
* Fairing production facilities
* Most of the materials, even if not all
* The second stage of CZ-3 are hydrolox like the CZ-5's core, and the stage is common with CZ-8 and 7A

Often institutional streamlining can come from doing similar tasks often and for a long time, because everyone knows what they are supposed to do, and who to call when something irregular happens that threatens to disrupt operations. If there are many people with every relevant expertise and knowledge, then no one employee retiring or quitting ever causes disruptions.

When you have many similar projects going on, rather than just one or two projects, you seldom get the case that you have employees with nothing to do related to their special expertise, that you have to keep on payroll anyway because you'll need their special expertise in two years and it would be hard to get them to come back if you fire them

[Anonymous No.15930426]

>>15930423
>We

[Anonymous No.15930434]

>>15930426
Yes, SpaceX is public good.

[Anonymous No.15930435]

>>15930425
>The second stage of CZ-3 are hydrolox
Meant third stage

[Anonymous No.15930467]

>>15930425
My wumao friend you need to learn when to take the L.

[Anonymous No.15930468]

>>15930425
When an organization reaches a certain size, you can institutionalize the process of training new employees, even in the smallest niches within the organization

[Anonymous No.15930473]

>>15930467
How would you explain the $3k/kg then? Is Ron Lerch a wumao too?

[Anonymous No.15930474]

>>15930425
>* Tank diameter and its production facilities
I'll give you the booster tankage, the CZ-2 and CZ-5 have common diameters there where some economy of scale can be leveraged with kerolox being a more benign counterpart to the absolute sack of toxic hell that is UDMH and N2O4, but the CZ-5 core is an entirely distinct asset and its own bag of trouble.

[Anonymous No.15930486]

>>15930474
The 3.35m diameter is likely chosen because of benefits of commonality with hypergolic rockets. Kerolox rockets launched from Wenchang travel by boat from Tianjin, no? They don't strictly need to follow railmax constraints

[Anonymous No.15930489]

>>15930486
Indeed, it does seem to be a commonality aspect, but it's also four CZ-2 first stages worth of tankage and its own set of engines per CZ-5 launch.

[Anonymous No.15930492]

>>15928703
He's the one who dug the tunnels

[Anonymous No.15930494]

>>15930473
>How would you explain the $3k/kg then?

Accounting games, much like how China spends a lot more on its military than the official number.

[Anonymous No.15930498]

>>15930486
>>15930489
Except that LM-5 boosters are not derived from the LM-2.

[Anonymous No.15930504]

>>15930494
This isn't the official number anon, it's an estimate by the US Space Force, a US military branch.

[Anonymous No.15930506]

>>15930494
Yet he's talking about marginal cost, so it's clearly an USSF estimate of the costs of inputs, he's not citing any list prices. Unless you mean the basis of the estimate is that the NSA hacked CASC and found a document that mentions marginal cost only to the extent it impacts CASCs own balance sheet while ignoring massive subsidies, and both the NSA and the USSF was fooled by it

[Anonymous No.15930507]

https://youtu.be/GFgGnhRZarY

Stainless steel factory machining in Tesla factory. Related to Starship, since the stainless steels are coming from the same source.

[Anonymous No.15930511]

>>15930507
I hate that we have to share Musk with those people.

[Anonymous No.15930512]

>>15930498
The tank diameter is the same, despite not relying on the same mode of transport, suggesting the choice was made for commonality of tooling and facilities at CALT's factories

[Anonymous No.15930522]

>>15929692
Woman got the right to vote

[Anonymous No.15930524]

>>15930507
There was the recent BlueOrigin factory tour from some schumuck. The comparison between the two is so stark. Its night and day

[Anonymous No.15930530]

https://fireflyspace.com/news/firefly-aerospace-ready-to-launch-alpha-flta004-for-lockheed-martin-no-earlier-than-december-20/
Alpha launch NET Wednesday. NSF hosting.

[Anonymous No.15930533]

>>15930506
>>15930504
The $3000/kg number is not a USSF estimate my wumao friends.

[Anonymous No.15930534]

>>15930533
Stephen Clarke writes:

>Chief Master Sgt. Ron Lerch, the senior enlisted leader of the Space Force'sintelligence directorate, briefedattendees of the Space Force Association's first annual Spacepower Conference on China's growing spacecapabilities this week in Orlando,Florida.

>In his presentation Tuesday, Lerch highlighted the cost-effectiveness of the Long March 5 rocket, the type of launcher used for Friday's launch with Yaogan-41. Although the rocket is an expendable design, Lerch said the marginal cost to launch a kilogram of payload mass on a Long March 5 is $3,000.

How do you interpret it?

[Anonymous No.15930535]

>>15930530
>NSF hosting

[Anonymous No.15930545]

>>15930498
>>15930512
The design of the Long March 5 and Long March 2 first stage appears to use the same design for the tank domes, so they probably are manufactured using a common assembly line.

[Anonymous No.15930549]

>>15929816
>>15929837
This: Orbital Sciences claimed avoiding weather delays was the biggest advantage for Pegasus. Also there is a lot of mission flexibility because you can optimize for different orbits depending on the latitude and direction you launch from.

The 747 was a great choice because it had already been engineered with a fifth hardpoint, originally used for carrying spare engines between the factories and airports. Pity it no longer makes economic sense, it would have been a great competitor for Pegasus decades ago.

Feels like Branson took all of Burt Rutan's genius ideas and turned them to shit.

[Anonymous No.15930550]

>>15930545

[Anonymous No.15930551]

>>15930301
I think one thing that might make CZ-5B and CZ-8G even more cost effective is fairing size. Guowang payloads are likely volume constrained rather than mass constrained due to stacking and dispensing mechanisms. So it might be misleading to merely consider and compare kg to orbit

[Anonymous No.15930556]

so fucking kinoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Anonymous No.15930560]

>>15930524
Who? where?

[Anonymous No.15930561]

BasedX at it again

[Anonymous No.15930565]

>>15930561
>Pimp My Launch Tower

[Anonymous No.15930567]

>>15930560
Its better you dont know it, because it was a complete waste of time without discussion into anything factory, technology or rocket related.

It was a pure self-promo for some guy

[Anonymous No.15930575]

>>15930030
hydraulics caught on fire

[Anonymous No.15930584]

>>15930567
I found it, you're right, it's awful

[Anonymous No.15930590]

>>15929822
>cheap
one-of-a-kind hypersonic airliner-sized carrier plane is not going to be cheaper to operate than a tube filled with spicy rubber
>>15930023
XB-70 could carry 27 ton payload, so it could carry something like Falcon 1 at best
it can go up to 20km at 0.9km/s, but LEO starts at 2000km and escape velocity is 11 km/s
so you can carry it a whole 1% the way there and give it 8% of the speed

[Anonymous No.15930591]

>>15930590
>so you can carry it a whole 1% the way there and give it 8% of the speed
But that's like 30% of the propellant cost of a regular rocket.

[Anonymous No.15930605]

>>15930590
square root of two of 11 km/s is uh about 8 km/s
so you're like 15% of the way to orbit, which isn't bad

[Anonymous No.15930609]

>>15929375
versatile rocket design also can be used for the 4th of july

[Anonymous No.15930649]

>>15930605
Staging at 2km/s is what Falcon 9 does. All you need is a Mach 6 carrier that can hold an upper stage and you're in business.

[Anonymous No.15930655]

>>15930590
>LEO starts at 2000km

[Anonymous No.15930657]

>>15930649
mach 4 should be fine
>>15930655
haha I didn't even look at his numbers

[Anonymous No.15930660]

We're not getting another 2023 Starship launch, are we?

[Anonymous No.15930661]

>>15930660
Probably not.

[Anonymous No.15930663]

>>15930660
You were deluded to think they could turn it around in less than two months.
I think there's a good chance in February if they don't get jerked around with the permit again.

[Anonymous No.15930666]

>>15930660
There's still plenty of time left

[Anonymous No.15930667]

>>15930666
How much time, Satan?

[Anonymous No.15930668]

the launch site is talking

[Anonymous No.15930669]

>>15930668
It says "FEED ME BEETLES".

[Anonymous No.15930683]

The booster's been there for almost a day now and the swing arm hasn't moved yet.

[Anonymous No.15930689]

>>15930663
It was cut down by 3 months for B9 to pad to 1 month for B10 to pad. I expect all other things to follow that trend so, by this logic IFT-3 will launch end of January/beginning of February.

[Anonymous No.15930693]

>>15930667
Do I really need to say it? Two. More. Weeks.

[Anonymous No.15930705]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aXEddQ7cDE
T-13, if anyone is interested

[Anonymous No.15930714]

>>15930660
We have 2 weeks. So maybe

[Anonymous No.15930721]

Max-Qute!

[Anonymous No.15930733]

What's the latest on the schizodrive?

[Anonymous No.15930737]

>>15930733
they wont begin testing/have data until early next year,
they want to use the thruster for a few weeks to see if it records any effect at all (it probably wont work)

[Anonymous No.15930746]

>>15930733
they've successfully used it to drop the satellites apaopsis several times now >>15929645

[Anonymous No.15930748]

>>15930746
That's just orbital decay.

[Anonymous No.15930756]

Clearcels are alloted 1 image per launch.

[Anonymous No.15930758]

>>15930756
how many do the krystalfags, frogposters, and singular cirno poster get?

[Anonymous No.15930775]

>>15930758
at least one other person has posted Cirno

[Anonymous No.15930796]

https://twitter.com/esherifftv/status/1736853849640734931

Zubrin interview

[Astranon No.15930826]

>>15930775
Yup, I posted Cirno when LV0009 made it to orbit. She was the strongest, after all.

[Anonymous No.15930838]

>>15930826
>cirnonigger is namefagging
proven that cirno is offboard scum meme. get out of /sfg/, you are making frogcels look good dickweed.

[Anonymous No.15930855]

>>15930838
take your meds, schizo

[Anonymous No.15930856]

>>15930838
anon...

[Anonymous No.15930907]

>>15930838
stupid newnigger
you're an IFT-2 tourist right? well please leave until at least IFT-3, and preferably forever.

[Anonymous No.15930909]

>>15930907
>>15930856
>>15930855
Samefagging wont change the fact that you will never be a woman

[Anonymous No.15930925]

>>15930796
Why does he keep pausing to take such deep big breaths through his nostrils as though enjoying some sort of flower bouquet?

[Anonymous No.15930932]

>>15930925
He likes his own smell

[Anonymous No.15930955]

[Anonymous No.15930959]

>>15930955
>MEGAN
wtf is this oujaboard shit

[Anonymous No.15930991]

>>15930955
Good jaab

[Anonymous No.15931021]

>>15930079
>>15930156
anti-matter?

[Anonymous No.15931030]

>>15931021
All available data points to antimatter being physically identical to regular matter save for their charges being reversed.

[Anonymous No.15931037]

>>15931030
so wtf does that leave? some exotic uranium that naturally formed somehow?

[Anonymous No.15931042]

>>15931021
A spek of interstellar dust would nuke the entire solar system if it were.

[Anonymous No.15931045]

>>15931037
it leaves self-interacting dark matter chunklets gravitationally bound to the asteroid, and strange matter (matter consisting entirely of up, down and strange quarks like a weird soup, no differentiation into separate particles)

[Anonymous No.15931060]

>>15931045
sounds more like they just can't measure for shit if they are the only options

[Anonymous No.15931079]

>>15931045
There is no way dark matter interacts so strongly that it forms or is bound in asteroids.

The mostly likely explanation is just measurement errors. If you take a large enough dataset you will find extreme outliers just by statistics. That's ignoring real errors which happen in research (values misprinted in tables, objects measurements swapped...).


>>15930079
That is deranged. They do a huge mental backflip in declaring that dark matter cannot be baryonic, but maybe some of it could be if there are lots of types. In which case what your looking for is totally irrelevant in the big context. Furthermore without a density you cannot rule out any model ever, you can always just assume the density is lower and lower to avoid detection. If you don't require the dark matter candidate to make up the whole density you can just explain nondetextions by scaling that component lower and lower.
I work in the field and I have never heard of this idea. It is pointless. Those slides are like the brown scribbles on the asylum wall.

[Anonymous No.15931092]

>>15931037
Either one of the other mentioned theories, the hypothesized Island of Stability exists and produces long lived ultra-heavy isotopes, something completely unknown, or a measurement error.

[Anonymous No.15931105]

it's funny how blunderf00t keeps grasping at straws for anything musk, spacex or tesla related
he already busted the cybertruck btw, it's over, tesla can close the factory, some chemistryl autist on the internet thinks different

[Anonymous No.15931111]

https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1736892587322065124

New nosecone welding robot (Kuka).

[Anonymous No.15931137]

>>15931111
i will name him robby robot

[Anonymous No.15931140]

>>15928294
And trump would just say greatest and best a couple of times and then go on a tangent on whatever is on his mind that second.

[Anonymous No.15931150]

>>15931140
without trump you have no hls starship, no space force, no gateway, no artemis, no dragonfly

[Anonymous No.15931152]

https://www.youtube.com/live/yq26nH72bOs?si=1Zq0nk8aJ7wfA2Rn
this is really insane

[Anonymous No.15931156]

>>15929619
>Well I feel it's not that bad
Ground breaking research there Elon.

[Anonymous No.15931157]

https://twitter.com/JConcilus/status/1736877110105395312

Twin towers will be had in Starbase. The pieces of towers are being transported from here and should be here within a week or so

[Anonymous No.15931162]

>>15931157
ESGhound says this legally can't be done

[Anonymous No.15931163]

>>15931162
>>15931105
Kinda tired of grifters.

On one had, you have a $180 billion dollar company with 10,000 + employees. On the other hand, you have some failed chemistry graduate from some third world country college and some gas company employee.

[Anonymous No.15931164]

>>15931150
I'll give you the HLS part of HLS starship. Maybe.

[Anonymous No.15931165]

>>15931150
Does any of that make him any more eloquent?

[Anonymous No.15931167]

>>15931165
No, it doesn't. When have pretty speeches done something useful?

[Anonymous No.15931168]

>>15931167
I dunno. The meme I replied to seemed to think they were important.

[Anonymous No.15931169]

>>15931150
He really was the greatest space president, maybe ever

[Anonymous No.15931173]

Reminder that the US and therefore its space companies will literally implode if another puppet president gets elected

[Anonymous No.15931174]

>be Cernan
>Partially complete Gemini 9a spacewalk with a lot of trouble, have to come back to the ship exhausted
>Fly on Apollo 8
>Be freaked out by pogo
>LM out of control at lunar staging because Stafford presses a switch that he had already switched
>a few seconds from the rendezvous burn
>swear live on radio that was being broadcasted
>Be offered Apollo 16 with his mate
>Reject it and demand a commander seat, despite Deke's warning that he might not fly again
>Still gets to fly in Apollo 17 as commander
How did he get away with so much?

[Anonymous No.15931215]

>>15931174
>swear live on radio that was being broadcasted
FCC has no jurisdiction in space. You can say "assfaggot" there no problem. Space is like 4chan.

[Anonymous No.15931265]

>>15931169

[Anonymous No.15931335]

>>15931215
Unlimited Faggot Works?

[Anonymous No.15931359]

>>15931162
At the originally proposd location I don't think it can, but they're dismantling one of the test stands right now so maybe they'll put it there?

[Anonymous No.15931364]

>>15931169
Greatest since LBJ anyway. Nixon was a gigafaggot.

[Anonymous No.15931393]

OH MY SKIBIDIII WILL THE OHIO ROCKET LIFT OFF NOW FR FR???
ALSO IS THAT A TRANNY ON THE RIGHT?

[Anonymous No.15931397]

I visited the space coast last night. It was a good one.

[Anonymous No.15931401]

BO toy is flying today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSzi1lHaqlQ

[Anonymous No.15931402]

>>15931401
No it's not. It's in a hold so stand by for scrub.

[Anonymous No.15931403]

NAWWW WHY DEEZ GOOFY AHHH MFS DO A HOLD???
L RIZZ ORIGIN

[Anonymous No.15931404]

Timer is on

[Anonymous No.15931405]

>>15930534
Do you not know where the $3k figure came from?

[Anonymous No.15931414]

>>15931405
Hard to beat slave labor when it comes to keeping costs down.

[Anonymous No.15931415]

Reminder that BO never released footage from the actual rocket RUDing.

[Anonymous No.15931417]

>>15931415
SpaceX didn't release it either

[Anonymous No.15931420]

what a lame rocket

[Anonymous No.15931423]

max-qute!

[Anonymous No.15931427]

>>15931162
>ESGhound says this legally can't be done
ESGhouse also said IFT-2 couldn't legally happen, but we all saw how that went.

[Anonymous No.15931434]

spacex btfo

[Anonymous No.15931436]

>>15931434
BlueOriginGODS won once again

[Anonymous No.15931438]

How much fuel do they waste on landing

[Anonymous No.15931440]

>>15928044
How do you make elastomers that work at cryogenic temperatures?

[Anonymous No.15931460]

>suborbital hydrolox rocket

[Anonymous No.15931466]

>>15931460
I'd attain maxQ in her suborbital engine, if you catch my drift

[Anonymous No.15931487]

>elon has been working hard for 20 years straight on getting us to mars
i wish i had drive like this

[Anonymous No.15931492]

>>15929944
>Nobody cares about the most significant space finding of the year
>everyones talking about some meme rocket that fails constantly
Why is space so DEAD

[Anonymous No.15931493]

>>15931492
What's so significant about it besides the pretty picture? What did we learn about Uranus?

[Anonymous No.15931499]

>>15931492
Astronomy is literally the most depressing thing in existence for me.
If I look too deeply, my day is ruined.

[Anonymous No.15931502]

>>15931493
The engineering marvel of the James Webb Telescope (lots of high end industries and specific inventions to make it work) and the existential horror and beauty of the Infinite Universe
>>15931499
yeah the Infinite Universe is not for everyone

[Anonymous No.15931503]

>>15931492
why is no one talking about how the KSP2 science update is literally 15 minutes away and how you should buy it immediately without looking up reviews first?

[Anonymous No.15931515]

>>15931503
Let us know when it's actually feature complete as promised.

[Anonymous No.15931527]

>>15931502
oh so you're just astrooooonoming

[Anonymous No.15931549]

>>15931503
>buy
no. give me a steam key.

[Anonymous No.15931558]

>>15931502
Not really spaceflight though, is it?

[Anonymous No.15931575]

Clear-chan watched Jeff Bezos' massive cock enter space.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeewcBhRxNU

[Anonymous No.15931591]

Staging

>>15931589
>>15931589
>>15931589
>>15931589
>>15931589

[Anonymous No.15931612]

>>15931162
>ESGhound
who is this? I'm missing out on some lore

[Anonymous No.15931619]

>>15931427
Yeah it blew the fuck up
Nice try loser

[Anonymous No.15931623]

[deorbits to the ground]

[Anonymous No.15931648]

>>15931612
Don't worry about it, a guy well versed in environmental regulations but with a blind spot for Musk companies' ability to slip through every crack and loophole there is and self-admitted EDS. I recommend reading his blog if you're legitimately interested in how all this regulatory stuff works, when he actually explains stuff he does so quite well, but you have to be able to not get triggered by the Musk criticism, so not recommended if you cannot fathom Musk ever doing anything wrong.