/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15927575]

Its been 15 years since picrel was published and so far there is no sign that any of it's ominous predictions are going to come true. Sea level hasn't risen an inch, no ecosystems have collapsed or are on the verge of doing so, the Greenland and the Antarctic ice sheets have all accumulated mass over the past several years. When are the global warming hysterics and doomsday cult leaders going to finally admit that they were wrong?

[Anonymous No.15927924]

Back in the late 80s Hansen predicted 10m sealevel rise by 2100. Of course he knew he would be dead long before 2100, so theres no personal risk to his reputation making a claim like that, but 35 years later and sea level isn't even up a centimeter, so its clear that he is wrong

[Anonymous No.15927933]

>>15927575
It's almost like the hype about climate science is related more to the fearmongering than to any actual tangible research.

[Anonymous No.15927959]

>>15927575
Nobody said this.

[Anonymous No.15928947]

>>15927924

[Anonymous No.15929987]

>>15927575
Why are climate science "experts" so incredibly bad at predicting the future? Whats wrong with that field of science? Are they all incredibly low IQ or something?

[Anonymous No.15930040]

>>15929987
It's because it's a field of "study" that exists as a pretext for expansion of economic control policy. This became obvious to me in undergrad when I spent a few weeks on measuring and calculating greenhouse gas effects of various substances and never once was it demonstrated or even suggested how an absolute calculation for heat retention might be calculated, only relative effects of gasses compared to other gasses.

[Anonymous No.15930095]

sometimes I forget that this board is filled with retarded 16 year olds and college dropouts

[Anonymous No.15930716]

>>15928947
Why is it that climate skeptics always post flat earth tier low IQ memes like this?

[Anonymous No.15931725]

>>15930095
>everyone except me is dumb, i'm a super unique special snowflake genius
>*pepe.jpg*

>>15930716
to trigger you

[Anonymous No.15932430]

>>15930040
https://www.writingtoiq.com/ says you are a 136 IQ genius

[Anonymous No.15933679]

>>15927924
>Back in the late 80s Hansen predicted 10m sealevel rise by 2100.
so we should've seen nearly 2m of sea level increase by now. where is it all?

[Anonymous No.15934314]

>>15927575
>dramatic sea level rises

[Anonymous No.15935436]

>>15927924
he doesn't care if he is wrong, he only cares if his predictions have their intended political impact

[Anonymous No.15936439]

>>15935436
thats how the global warming scam works. once they get what they want out of it they'll just pretend like the whole thing never happened, just like they do with lockdowns & vax mandates, just like they did when they were saying that the vax was real, but also george floyd demonstrations weren't superspreader events.

[Anonymous No.15937088]

>>15927924
>Of course he knew he would be dead long before 2100
Greta will be dead by 2100, Hansen was born in 1941, he probably will be dead before the end of this decade

[Anonymous No.15938045]

>>15937088
>Hansen was born in 1941
83 years old & still working.
Thats what happens to you if you become a poorfag soientist. You'll never earn enough money to retire on a soientist/schoolteacher salary.

[Anonymous No.15938821]

>>15937088
>he probably will be dead before the end of this decade
hopefully

[Anonymous No.15938831]

It's been both the the wettest and hottest year that I can remember in down under land.

[Anonymous No.15938834]

>>15927575
But they ARE coming true? Are you stupid? The only way you can possibly win this argument is by ignoring data.

At no point did Hansen say "if we don't reverse climate change we'll all be dead in 15 years" or whatever else you're going to try and crowbar into his statements. He said that if we don't reverse course now we'll be in serious trouble later. Which is still true. Our burning of fossil fuels over the last 20 years has effectively "bought" a change of 2-3 degrees warming over the next 100 years. We cannot stop that now. What we CAN do is mitigate the damage, prepare for what's coming, and try and stop further warming in the centuries to come. All of this you would know if your information wasn't from denialist blogs and 4chan threads.

[Anonymous No.15938835]

>>15934314
One picture taken at high tide and one picture taken at low tied proves what exactly?

[Anonymous No.15938836]

>>15927575
>there is no sign that any of it's ominous predictions are going to come true
NO MERCY

[Anonymous No.15938842]

>>15938834
It isn't for you or anyone else to bargain with or sell away, Anon. The generation that exists today and the generations after us have the right to the same standards set by people living today. Regardless of what it does to the planet, its not ours to dictate what they can and cannot have.

If you care about this cause, you should be engaged in the creation and research of new technologies to allow for clean living at the current standard of life, not preaching and bitching about how other people should give up modern luxuries in pursuit of an impossible standard.

[Anonymous No.15938855]

>>15938842
>Regardless of what it does to the planet, its not ours to dictate what they can and cannot have.
What an odd sinecure from someone who has absolutely no intention of conserving scarce non-renewable resources.
Of course you've convinced yourself that resources are effectively infinite due to technology improvements, despite the fact that you know virtually nothing about science and technology.
All completely irrational rationalizations for your gluttonous lifestyle of course and the infinite economic/population growth ponzi that provides for you and that you people constantly shill.

[Anonymous No.15938864]

>>15938842
>Regardless of what it does to the planet, its not ours to dictate what they can and cannot have.
You are effectively dictating that they cannot have the non-renewable resources that you need to consume for your bloated lifestyle.
The fact that anyone at all, let alone someone in a position of power, can delude themselves with the totally self serving and absolutely laughable notion that resources are effectively infinite really does not bode well for humanity's long term prospects.
Return of a kind of neolithic dark ages imminent.

[Anonymous No.15940066]

>>15938831
November & December were freezing, it didn't warm up at all until a couple weeks ago

[Anonymous No.15940081]

>>15938842
>We need to CONSUUUUUME ALL DA RESOURCES
>NOM NOM DEY GONE
>its for the children

You literally can't make this shit up. The currently accepted actual ideology.

[Anonymous No.15940111]

>>15938831
I noticed the same thing down under your mom

[Anonymous No.15941075]

>>15940081
>I am the savior of mother nature and the protector of plant earth
you aren't tho, you're just a power-hungry narcissist who has no qualms about cold bloodedly lying about your true intentions and desires

[Anonymous No.15941092]

>>15941075
>projection
The reality and the math is so simple even a literal retard can understand it, jordan peterstein. Time is running out for scumbags like you.

[Anonymous No.15941614]

>>15941075
>you aren't tho, you're just a power-hungry narcissist who has no qualms about cold bloodedly lying about your true intentions and desires
I don't want the river to catch on fire anymore

[Anonymous No.15941954]

>>15941614
Nah you're just a narcissist commie just like everyone who isn't willing to drink the toxic river water for the sake of some billionaire's profits.
Also you're not a fan of Jordan Peterson who has an IQ of 130 so you're clearly stupid.

[Anonymous No.15941975]

>>15927575
>no sign that any of it's ominous predictions are going to come true
You are a fool who does not understand anything. Global warming is a positive feedback loop.

Once anyone sees the 1st signs of global warming, it will already be too late. Once it starts, there's no power on Earth that'll stop it. Deep sea methane will melt, and boil to the surface. Permafrost will unfreeze, and release C02 that's been trapped for centuries, or millennia. Jet streams will be altered, mixing hot climates with cold air and cold climates with hot air.

When tiny patches of forests start to disappear, that's when people mass starvation hits. It's common knowledge that the roots of forests alter the soil to benefit plant growth, both by providing nutrients with fallen leaves and by holding soil with roots preventing erosion, but they do more than that. Forests change the weather itself. Trees suck moisture out of the dirt, draw it up to their leaves and breath it out. They create the very rain clouds they need to survive. The rain clouds that WE need to survive.

[Anonymous No.15942750]

>>15941614
>the 1952 Cuyahoga River Fire was caused by global warming
you will lie about anything because you have no morals

[Anonymous No.15942755]

>>15941975
(cont)
What's even worse is that global warming doesn't just affect the surface of the planet, it heats up the Earth's core at an exponential rate. We'll see earthquakes, volcanoes, and finally the seas boil away until Earth is identical to Venus.

[Anonymous No.15943654]

>>15941975
>>15942755
this is what global warming hysterics actually believe

[Anonymous No.15943661]

>>15942755
Name a date and blow your brains out when icebergs are still here. I will archive and remind you.

[Anonymous No.15943666]

>>15943654
kek humans are insane

[Anonymous No.15943674]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8AHkAJrpAxd4/
>REAL preventable climate change armageddon still exists!!! but we only have a few years left to institute global communism and save ourselves!!!
>>15930095
>>15938834
>>15938864
>>15940081
>>15927959

[Anonymous No.15944974]

>>15943661
two weeks from today

[Anonymous No.15946001]

>>15938835
That I fucked ur mom LOLOLOLOLOOOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLL

[Anonymous No.15946881]

>>15943654
it should come as no surprise that the same tricked which have been used to effectively manipulate the dumbest sectors of society in the past continue to work today, its not like we've evolved all that much since the days of sandwich boards with "REPENT - THE END IS NIGH" pained on them

[Anonymous No.15947182]

>>15946881
It's pretty clear that as a species we haven't evolved much from the days of witch burnings and the inquisition, or even from the medieval dark ages for that matter.
Just a bunch of animals that believe whatever bullshit nonsense they have to in order to be competitive...
The enlightenment offered an alternative to the game but it was rejected. Maybe it was a mistake to believe we were ever anything more than self serving NPCs.

[Anonymous No.15947189]

>>15929987
Arrogant retards and cynical scam artists that think being able to fit a complex equation to an open system means they've solved reality. Same reason economic experts routinely fail at predicting the future.

[Anonymous No.15947190]

>>15938835
Based retard

[Anonymous No.15948134]

https://youtu.be/Cm0ARggsQWA

[Anonymous No.15948156]

>>15938842
>The generation that exists today and the generations after us have the right to the same standards set by people living today.
Sure, but that relies on plethora of things that are constantly changing (resources abundance, R&D, consumption rates etc.). Future generations may have a "right", but it's up to us (i.e. current generations) to leave something for them. And the best way to do so is to simply consume less, which has a number of other benefits desu.

[Anonymous No.15948160]

>>15948134
>the handrubbing
Perfect

[Anonymous No.15948161]

>>15941975
While this is generally true, there are two issues
>timescales
>rate of change
Some of these may take centuries or thousands of years to unfold. This, of course, doesn't mean we shouldn't do anything about it.
>>15942755
This, however, is borderline retarded.

[Anonymous No.15948732]

>>15948161
>oy vey the world is coming to an end because of muh global warming!!!
>i'm goooonnnaa save the world!!!
>just like muh superheroes in muh marvel comix moooooovies
>then people will finally give me the respect i feel entitled to
https://www.healthline.com/health/savior-complex

[Anonymous No.15948740]

>>15943674
Take your meds and get a job. Your mom is worried.

[Anonymous No.15949174]

>>15927575
>when are the global warming hysterics and doomsday cult leaders going to finally admit that they were wrong?
Better question yet, about picrel. Is 15 years going to cut it?

[Nobody No.15949928]

>>15930095
Which way do you mean this? I'm a six grade drop out and see no benefit of being big oil's sniveling bitch cause I can't understand a 1st grade science experiment.....

>>15935436
The funniest thing is that pic is identical to accurate taxation, minus the worthless u.n.. Motorists are the biggest welfare queens in world history.

[Nobody No.15950609]

>>15942750
Yeah he didn't say that, and it's all the same thing.

[Anonymous No.15951226]

current weather in europe

[Nobody No.15951452]

>>15951226
Can anyone decode this?

[Anonymous No.15952211]

[Anonymous No.15952351]

>>15927933
it's not linear chud
it'll start to rise on the dawn of the last day

[Anonymous No.15952361]

>>15938045
Being a scientist is easy, you just write some nonsense and get government money

[Anonymous No.15952389]

I am a rabid environmentalist and tree hugging hippy, but man made climate change is a bunch of garbage, an excuse to take things away from people and charge higher taxes. a red herring. everyone argues about this silly bullshit instead of the hundreds of other ways that we're actually damaging the planet. I think it's intentional

[Anonymous No.15952725]

>>15927575
>It's gonna catch fire, put it away!
>It's not burning.
>Yes, but it will, put it away.
>OK, if it catches fire, I move it away.

[Anonymous No.15952726]

>>15927575
>>It's gonna catch fire, put it away!
>It's not burning.
>Yes, but it will, put it away.
>OK, if it catches fire, I'll move it away.

[Anonymous No.15953617]

>>15951226
thats cold

[Anonymous No.15953641]

>>15952726
This strawman would be a lot more impactful if you hadn’t repeatedly made predictions about when it would catch fire and been wrong every time.
One day soon climate cultists will be regarded in the same way as Christians predicting the apocalypse.

[Anonymous No.15953645]

>>15953641
It is on fire.

[Anonymous No.15953647]

>>15927575
I mean we did have our last chance 15 years ago, and we chose business as usual.

[Anonymous No.15953654]

>>15953645
This fire is surprisingly mild.

[Anonymous No.15953656]

>>15953647
>tell me you went to school after the year 2000 without telling me
I promise you, 50 years from now they’ll still be saying the devastating changes will happen any minute now and we could have stopped it if only we had acted quickly enough. It’s a scam to subjugate the lower classes. When you start noticing your taxes going up and all your foods and luxuries being replaced while politicians and billionaires still fly around on private jets, you’ll start to get it

[Anonymous No.15953738]

>>15953656
In 50 years the survivors will be saying things about how nice the world used to be, that is if any history even survives.
All because a bunch of self-serving corporate boot lickers (You) absolutely refused to accept that there is a cost besides $ for their bloated lifestyles.

[Anonymous No.15953739]

>>15953656
In 50 years co2 concentrations will have passed 500 ppm, a level not seen in about 15 million years.
You people are fucking insane.

[Nobody No.15954929]

>>15953739
But the earth can take it.....

[Anonymous No.15954940]

>>15953738
>>15953739
Save these posts. Print them. Frame them. Think of me laughing at you when you are wrong and I am right

[Anonymous No.15955692]

>>15953738
global warming is a corporate scam, you are the bootlicker

[Anonymous No.15955707]

>>15943654
Me in the left panel.

>>15946881
>its not like we've evolved
That's right, it's not like we evolved because evolutionism is just a science-denying creation myth of the materialists.

>>15947182
>Just a bunch of animals that believe whatever bullshit nonsense they have to in order to be competitive...
You mean like believing in the blind faith religion of evolutionism or that man is just an animal? Because if you're even just skeptical of evolutionism or materialism and voice it at all, you will have a much harder time being competitive in a lot of fields, like academics to name one.

People like you would've had no problems submitting to the Papacy under an inquisition, no problem going with the prevailing views of society at large, you already do it from fear of mockery how much more the edge of a blade; but people like me would've been burned at the stake by that pretender church.

[Anonymous No.15955711]

>>15927575
Climate alarmists think pic related has been happening for gazillions of years without any problems, without anyone in control. Just let that sink in for a moment.

If someone thinks the seasons are going to "end the world", then imagine the panic they'll have when they see pic related and know that no amount of calls for bigger government or subsidizing corporate "green" products or outlawing said "green" corporations' competitors will affect pic related.

Climate alarmism is founded upon the false pretense that God doesn't run the show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgCGe2pYirI

[Anonymous No.15955721]

>>15927575
>Sea level hasn't risen an inch
It rises a few millimetres per year. About 30cm in total so far.
>no ecosystems have collapsed
Ask the Aral Sea. Or all the insects you'd find on your windshield 30 years ago. Or look at the healthy ecosystem of deforested rainforests.
>the Greenland and the Antarctic ice sheets have all accumulated mass over the past several years
Not sure if that's a cherrypicked 3 datapoints or a complete lie.
>When are the global warming hysterics and doomsday cult leaders going to finally admit that they were wrong?
When are oil shills going to stop spreading nothing but lies?

[Anonymous No.15955726]

>>15951226
>weather = climate
And that's why I have lost hope for humanity. You have access to education in Finland, and yet you are dumb as a goldfish. If even Europeans are behaving like niggers with an attention span of 5 minutes, how bad must actual niggers be?

[Anonymous No.15955732]

>>15953738
>the survivors
>the survivors
>the survivors
Lmao you know even the most pessimistic scientific studies don’t predict that global warming is an existential threat to humanity, right? That’s a bullshit lie created by activists to scare people into agreeing with them.
At absolute worst, climate change is supposed to cause crop failure in the 3rd world and trigger mass migration. But considering the 3rd world is already migrating in their millions before any of that, I don’t see the difference

[Anonymous No.15955734]

>>15955711
You worship Yaldabaoth the ignorant demiurge.

[Anonymous No.15955735]

>>15955726
It’s amazing that when the weather is normal or unusually cold, that ISN’T climate change, but when there’s 1 unusually hot day in the year, that IS climate change

[Anonymous No.15955740]

>>15955732
>don’t predict that global warming is an existential threat to humanity
I agree. Depletion of non-renewable resources is a far greater threat.
This is what the logistics equation produces should there be some sudden reduction of the supply of some critical resource (like living space or water for example).
I assume an educated inquisitive individual such as yourself would be be doing everything you can to preserve non-renewable resource for future generations.

[Anonymous No.15955745]

>>15955740
Oh no! Loving space and water!? Where will we find more of that. Wait! Wait wait wait! I just remembered, there’s a huge landmass to the north that’s conveniently covered in fresh water! If we could just melt the ice up there…

[Anonymous No.15955746]

>>15955734
The sun is coming up in australia and they're currently sipping coffee and looking at /sci/ while they nurse their hangovers.

[Anonymous No.15955749]

>>15955745
It sounds like you've taken literally everything into consideration. Carry on.

[Anonymous No.15955765]

>>15955749
Cheers, cunt.
Maybe if we’re worried about room and resources we should stop letting Africans reproduce at a rate several times higher than the entire western world combined. Just a thought.

[Anonymous No.15955769]

>>15955735
>when there’s 1 unusually hot day in the year, that IS climate change
Nope. 1 unusually hot day is still weather. Hell, even a hot year or two is weather. Climate is that the average temperature has risen by about a degree centigrade on average.

[Anonymous No.15955770]

>>15955765
>worried about room and resources
you and the woke liberals you hate so much have one thing in common, absolutely no concern whatsoever over such things
humanity is a lame ass fucking meme

[Anonymous No.15955785]

>>15955770
Lmao
>I think this is a problem!!!
>okay here’s at least 2 solutions
>NOT THOSE ONES!

[bodhi No.15955932]

>>15955711
>Climate alarmism is founded upon the false pretense that God doesn't run the show.
bingo, imagine the fucking hubris of thinking we have any say over such things. the plan is in motion and all variables were accounted for from the beginning

[Anonymous No.15955941]

>>15955932
The ignorant demiurge has no plan. He created the material world from an imperfect memory of the true infinity, and in his ignorance believes himself to be the only divinity. He has trapped humanity in this prison, but was tricked into breathing his spirit into all of us. Jesus was sent to teach gnosis, through which all of us can escape. Worshipping the demiurge through Jesus is to be sacrificial cattle, just as in the Gospel of Judas

[Anonymous No.15955999]

>>15927575
The most basic knowledge of botany would tell you that as CO2 rises plants become more efficient at producing products and yes, sequestering CO2. It will be trivial for advanced technology of the Homo Sapiens to counter what little increase in CO2 we get. Plants can even be GMO'ed to make this more efficient. Also despite what YouTube tranny ThunderB00bs says trees can be mass planted to sequester carbon and we just need to revert back to using wood for all our products. Wood furniture and wood homes. They can even make skyscrapers out of wood already and with some work we can improve on the height of such structures so we can still have hyper productive cities. This solves his issue with carbon sequestered in lumber being re-released when that wood decays. Since we use it in homes it's likely that wood won't get disposed of and release it's captured carbon until decades or centuries later. This should allow us to tailor the level of CO2 in the atmosphere to whatever level we want. Please note that in horticulture, growing weed, you want to up the CO2 levels to maximize yields. So we are talking about higher CO2 directly leading to the end of all world hunger, so much produce it's basically free as the world population levels out around 10-12 billion people. We will also have near limitless lumber to build homes for those 10+billion people. We will need that higher CO2 level to feed those people. It's gaseous fertilizer and it's basically made free from our industrial waste and used to fuel materials for buildings/homes and progress of all humanity.

Ironically reverting to old style wood based lifestyle is the answer. The problem is this won't make The Elites rich. It's a decentralized low tech solution with minimal profits....so they don't talk about it and never will. Instead they advocate strip mining the Earth's Crust for lithium.

[Anonymous No.15956605]

>>15951226
except its not, most of Europe was at a comfy 10-20 degrees today

[Anonymous No.15956724]

>>15953654
That's how all fires began.

[Anonymous No.15956743]

>>15956605
Define most. Narrow down that ridiculously broad range.

It was 8C in the UK today. Tomorrow is a high of 8, day after is 7, day after that is 5, and day after that is 3

[Nobody No.15957065]

>>15955999
OR.....people could just stop living like assholes....

[Nobody No.15957066]

>>15955711
>>15955932
Does water flowing down hill need coaching?

[Anonymous No.15957395]

>>15957065
Define what it means to live like an asshole.
And by the way, how come it’s only the lower classes that need to change how they live? Your politicians could hold conferences online, and yet they insist on flying around the world every week. What’s that about huh? Your produce could be grown domestically, and yet your supermarkets are growing food in one part of the world, and then shipping it to another hemisphere entirely to be packaged before it comes to you. Who asked them to do that? And for all the talk of rising sea-levels, I don’t see any billionaires abandoning their sea-front properties, no matter how many times they bring up climate change at The Oscars.

You’re being tricked.

[Nobody No.15957564]

>>15957395
Maximally wasteful. 20 miles or 20 minutes to work. 5% consuming 95% of the resources. Because the middle class was a mistake, and the tinest minority of bad actors don't matter. The net behavior of 300 million nobodies, is the only thing that matters. It's amazing how much your stupid jealousy has made you so myopic.

[Anonymous No.15957579]

>>15957564
Kek so your solution is literally “fuck the unwashed masses”
Bold take. At least we know you won’t reproduce

[Anonymous No.15957595]

>>15947190
>pic
Are you for real

[Anonymous No.15957890]

>>15955999
There isn't enough heavy metals in soils to sequester it all. We would have to put all the metals in coal and oil into fertilizer, and prevent their loss into the oceans. Then we might not even have a problem in the first place, as all the CO2 would get used up. But we do the opposite, so we are fucked. It's only a matter of time before plants stop growing at all.

[Anonymous No.15957918]

>>15955999
>Ironically reverting to old style wood based lifestyle is the answer.
Cool, a yet another unfeasible solution. I'll add it to the pile