/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15925072]

Starting to look like anti-cholesterol medications dissolve your brain

[Sage No.15925074]

Posting random screenshots of social media posts by random people with no expertise should be a bannable offense.

Sage

[Anonymous No.15925283]

>>15925072
You have a weird definition of "starting to look like."

[Anonymous No.15925848]

Thank you science for providing us all with your wonderful miracle drugs and for selling them to us at a massive profit.

[Anonymous No.15925853]

>>15925072
Yeah statins are associated with alzheimers disease, we've known this for a while. Unfortunately they're one of the only drugs which are effective at preventing progression of atherosclerosis. However it's nonsense that a low cholesterol diet would cause dementia.

[Anonymous No.15926945]

>>15925853
No it isn't, the brain is made of cholesterol

[Anonymous No.15926964]

>>15925072
>my dad in his 50s is already complaining of cognitive issues
>hes been on statins for 20 years

Fucking dammit im going to have to change his diapers arent I

[Anonymous No.15927887]

>>15926964
have you let him know that his drugs are dissolving his brain because his brain is made of cholesterol?

[Anonymous No.15928197]

if you’re over 70 and have low cholesterol it indicates you’re going to die
you need cholesterol

[Anonymous No.15928215]

why is the cross associated with medicine?

[Anonymous No.15928252]

>>15925853
> Unfortunately they're one of the only drugs which are effective at preventing progression of atherosclerosis
This was debunked by Dr. Aseem Malhotra years ago, the benefits of statis are negligible and not worth the side effects, its just a money making scheme like “flu vaccines”

[Anonymous No.15928255]

>>15925072
You can manage to get your nerves myelinated, but really alzhaimer's is caused by accumulated of beta-amygdolides.

Screlosis multiplex is demyelination thing.

[Anonymous No.15929143]

>>15926964
just ship him off to india, they let you shit wherever and whenever you want there. they live like farm animals

[Anonymous No.15929148]

>>15925072
So giving eggs to Alzheimer patients would cure them?
>>15925848
Pharma isn't science it's satan

[Anonymous No.15929158]

>>15925853
>>15926945
The body can produce cholesterol naturally you fucking bonehead.
When you inhibit cholesterol you're killing yourself.
Atherosclerosis is a complicated issue and just eating too much steak is the most generic popsci journo speak trash ever.

[Anonymous No.15929159]

>>15925072
Lipophilic statins cross the blood brain barrier and do extra damage to the CNS. It was actually already well known that they cause dementia. It's just less certain how bad the other options are.

[Anonymous No.15929172]

>>15929143
Is this the solution to elderly care? Just ship them off to India. Interedasting.

[Anonymous No.15930136]

>>15928215
its like that because atheists invented everything good about science and medicine

[Anonymous No.15930187]

>>15928252
No, you're very wrong, as it's that nobody dr

[Anonymous No.15930190]

>>15929143
Why do Indians live like farm animals? They seem to thrive in filth

[Anonymous No.15930193]

>>15930136
As is*

[Anonymous No.15930395]

>>15928255
> but really alzhaimer's is caused by accumulated of beta-amygdolides.
source?

[Anonymous No.15930760]

>>15926945
lol wat

[Anonymous No.15930765]

>>15929159
What happened to nicotinic acid?

[Anonymous No.15931647]

>>15930765
It increases reverse cholesterol transport if you take a shitload of it. But the problem is good HDL in the general pop is correlated with good diet and exercise so nicotinic acid won't cover those benefits.

[Anonymous No.15931650]

>>15926964
What's your dad's vaxx status?

[Barkun No.15931652]

>>15931647
I'm not being arrogant. I'm deeply hurt and was confused about this and more until now. I have skimmed passed translative figures concerning my father and 'his type of sign's but haven't until now took it seriously. It's down to general interest through injury and circumstance. Will be sure to be less arrogant. So that's your sign eh? 3 in and back/down.

[Anonymous No.15931655]

>>15925853
>Unfortunately they're one of the only drugs which are effective at preventing progression of atherosclerosis.
bullshit statard lies

[Anonymous No.15932399]

>>15931655
Right, somehow or other, the most profitable drugs are always the only decent available option

[Anonymous No.15932452]

>>15925072
I have a hereditary condition where my liver produces many, many times the normal amount of LDL cholesterol. Before statins existed most of my ancestors died from heart attacks around 50 years old

[Anonymous No.15932458]

>>15925072
Kill yourself, idiot troll.
>The ancient Greek and Roman philosophers and physicians associated old age with increasing dementia.[23] It was not until 1901 that German psychiatrist Alois Alzheimer identified the first case of what became known as Alzheimer's disease, named after him, in a fifty-year-old woman he called Auguste D.

[Anonymous No.15933666]

>>15932458
What does any of that have to do with the fact that anti-cholesterol medications dissolve your brain?

[Anonymous No.15934305]

>>15933666
Nothing whatsoever, but seeing OP made me angry and emotional so I wanted to spew some profanities and pose like I'm knowledgeable on this topic even though I am not.

[Anonymous No.15935229]

>>15934305
and you did that presumably because you brain was dissolved by anti-cholesterol medications?

[Anonymous No.15935249]

>>15925072
If there's any source I trust, it's a tweet that looks like it was written by a tech-illiterate boomer female who thinks Alzheimers = demyelination

[Anonymous No.15936386]

>>15935249
thanks for the update on your personal emotional activity pharmabot

[Anonymous No.15936804]

>>15936386
>if you don't take boomer tweets as scientific evidence you are a shill for pharmaceutical companies
Total boomer genocide now.

[Anonymous No.15936879]

>>15925853
>atherosclerosis
LMAOOOOO
We've known for ages that this is caused by calcium binding to cholesterol. The greatest way to reduce atherosclerosis is by reducing chronic inflammation, intaking more vitamin k2 and fixing the gut bacteria. Maybe eat less carbohydrates, less seed oils, more animal fat and protein. OMG it's not fucking rocket science.

[Anonymous No.15936893]

>>15936879
>We've known for ages that this is caused by calcium binding to cholesterol.
could you explain further? Why is it only seen in the arteries?

[Anonymous No.15936910]

Mood, Personality, and Behavior Changes During Treatment with Statins
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40800-015-0024-2

Though statins are widely tolerated, they may be among the growing list of prescription agents that, in some participants, may increase the risk of serious psychiatric events and/or behavioral changes. In the cases cited here, these adverse experiences posed risks to the safety of self and others—sometimes, tragically, adversely affecting marriages and careers, or culminating in death.

[Anonymous No.15936975]

>>15936879
the problem with that model is you can increase or decrease calcification just by manipulating mineral intake
high sodium, low potassium = higher calcification
high potassium, low sodium = lower calcification
and that's just one powerful factor that is independent of inflammation
>>15936893
>Why is it only seen in the arteries?
it's not. calcification can happen all over the body. this is because collagen and calcium phosphate naturally go together--this is the basic process by which collagen tissue is converted to bone tissue in human fetuses and infants. sodium concentrations modulate the rate of this process as well.
since arteries are heavily laden in collagen and get direct access to everything in the blood they have limited ability to resist poor diet or systemic disorders over time.

[Anonymous No.15936979]

>>15925072
This is why I eat fat. In the witcher 3 toussaint DLC the truth about food is blatantly laid out.
You are meant to eat the fat. You are meant to enjoy the animal, the gathered food. The grain and preservation.
Everything else is poison. It's obvious what is god's design.

[Anonymous No.15937084]

>>15936910
>Published: 29 December 2015
so they've known about statins destroying people's brains for a long time

[Anonymous No.15938037]

>>15937084
Right, but they make a lot of money on them since no alternatives have been developed so…

[Anonymous No.15938830]

you get no gainz from those library workouts if you don't have suitable cholesterol in your diets.
just like you need protein to add muscle, you also need cholesterol to get the brainz gainz
sorry vegans, but you will always be unhealthy and weak both physically and mentally

[Anonymous No.15939042]

>>15938037
The most basic alternative is ezetimibe which blocks cholesterol absorption in the intestine. It works great to reduce serum cholesterol but they never prescribe it as a first course because of privileged position statins have.

[Anonymous No.15940165]

>>15939042
>but they never prescribe it as a first course because of privileged position statins have.
Why are statins preferred? Is ezetimibe less profitable?

[Anonymous No.15940181]

>>15936879
>The greatest way to reduce atherosclerosis is by reducing chronic inflammation, intaking more vitamin k2 and fixing the gut bacteria. Maybe eat less carbohydrates, less seed oils, more animal fat and protein.
It's wild how the average person starts drawing these sorts of conclusions after developing a casual understanding of topics that are far too complex for them to actually understand. If you're thinking of "carbohydrates" as a single nutritional unit that should simply be reduced then you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

You will never understand a topic if you don't study it directly. Getting all your information via biased third parties is fucking moronic. Spend the next 6 months reading research papers and maybe you'll be qualified to have an opinion.

[Anonymous No.15940203]

>>15929148
>Pharma isn't science it's satan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ipsrj1jJ1eM

[Anonymous No.15940279]

>>15940165
multiple companies with multiple statin drugs that can push studies and policies and consumer information that favor themselves

[Anonymous No.15941114]

>>15940279
Sounds like there is a lot of money to be made by dissolving people's brains

[Anonymous No.15942004]

>>15925072
People who "trust the science" don't have brains to begin with

[Anonymous No.15942008]

>>15940181
You didn't make a single actual argument in that extremely effeminate rant.

[Anonymous No.15942757]

>>15941114
You also get to make money selling them medicine for their dissolved brains after the statins have done their damage

[Anonymous No.15942778]

>>15928215
When you're patching a wound with plasters, you used to do that with two of them crossed for extra stability because the adhesive wasn't that well.

[Anonymous No.15943634]

>>15925072
more evidence that people who trust the soience are literally retarded

[Anonymous No.15944932]

>>15942757
Doctors are mere drug pushers, thats the only reason they exist. They don't serve any useful purpose

[Anonymous No.15945154]

>>15925072
My mother got prescribed a cholesterol medication and she gets confused and messes up basic tasks sometimes. It's heartbreaking seeing her like this and I don't know what to do.

[Anonymous No.15945716]

>>15945154
You could try telling her that her brain is made of cholesterol and that medications are melting her brain, but if she is too far gone she won't understand.

[Anonymous No.15945721]

>>15926964
nigga say hi to your dad before he doesn't remember you anymore

[Anonymous No.15945866]

>>15930760
it is

[Anonymous No.15945936]

>>15925072
Can you smash your data also for sklerosis multiplex? That's the antimyelization dissasse, alzhaimers is misproprely folded protein dissease, learn the diference.

[Anonymous No.15946228]

>>15933666
People have been getting Alzheimers since long before anti-cholesterol medications existed.

[Anonymous No.15946234]

>>15946228
But low cholesterol is somethigng they also could have had before.

[Anonymous No.15946522]

>>15946228
not at the rate they are today

[Anonymous No.15946604]

>>15928255
The beta amyloid theory has lost a lot of footing in recent literature. It definitely isn't the whole story

[Anonymous No.15947167]

>>15926945
that explains all of the anti-egg propaganda in ((the media))

[Anonymous No.15948182]

whoops, looks like "life saving medicine" fucked up and killed a whole bunch of people by accident again

[Anonymous No.15948304]

>>15925072

how is this caused by doctors? americans take chlorestrol medicine because they are fat and refuse to diet

[Anonymous No.15948322]

>>15928215
look up the knights hospitalier

[Anonymous No.15948329]

Malcolm Kendrick can tell you quite a lot a about manipulation of study data to push drugs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ldcRYadR4

[Anonymous No.15948815]

>>15948304
stop being fataphobic and xenophobic, fat shaming is bigotry just as bad as racism, sexism or racism.

[Anonymous No.15949678]

>>15948815
the people who love to slander people big than themselves safely from behind an internet connection are always too cowardly to do the same in person. sissified wimps all hate big people because they fear big people.

[Anonymous No.15949853]

>>15926945
Oh man, think before you type anon.

[Anonymous No.15950296]

wow, the pharma industry poisoning their customers to make a quick buck? how unusual, must be a day ending in y

[Anonymous No.15950304]

>>15932452
Hypercholesteremia... you a jew?

[Anonymous No.15951165]

>>15949853
>t. ignorant

[Anonymous No.15951954]

>>15948322
Wow, is all of modern medicine really based on Christian principles just all all of modern science is? Gosh those Christians sure have given a lot to modern civilization.
What aspects of modern civilization come from atheists? What are their contributions?