/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15916679]

Sixteen years ago today, Al Gore was awarded the Nobel Science Prize.
At the ceremony he said the world was spinning out of kilter and predicted the Arctic would be ice-free by 2014.
Not only was he wrong, In the years since he received his prize Arctic icepack has only increased.

https://youtu.be/fgHqL7qkxmg

[Anonymous No.15916688]

>>15916679
>Al Gore was awarded the Nobel Science Prize.
Sheikh Aladeen, our LLM is hallucinating again.

[Anonymous No.15916698]

>>15916679
>predicted the Arctic would be ice-free by 2014.
No, he didn't predict anything, he cited a study that wasn't even finalised by that point. A preprint, if you will. Also, the statement wasn't that "it would happen", but that it "could happen in as little as". If we don't know the upper bounds of the prediction (that not Al Gore made), we cannot say if it turned out true or false. If the statement was "we predict the arctic to be ice free in 7 to 30 years", then it could still be true.
Why are you blaming a politician for citing scientific literature? First of all, why should the statements of a politician be discussed on /sci/ rather than /pol/? Ok, you /pol/tards aren't going anywhere and jannies won't ban you, so let's discuss the fact that a politician cites scientific literature. Isn't this the best thing he can do? What else is a politician supposed to do? Make up shit with a sharpie on a map, contradicting scientific predictions?

[Anonymous No.15916721]

>>15916698

[Anonymous No.15916745]

>>15916679
arctic sea ice isn't going anywhere, the planet is not warming. people who are too young and dumb to have a baseline of personal observation and people who don't go outside might think so due to media brainwashing, but they are wrong.

[Anonymous No.15916752]

>>15916745
So why do they spend so much time shilling it on 4chan? Are they just NEETs with too much time on their hands? Is it for some ulterior motive?

[Anonymous No.15916757]

>>15916698
fwiw this motherfucker was serving punch at the jim jones concert.

[Anonymous No.15916769]

>>15916757
I don't know so that is, but a politician serving punch at a concert doesn't sound like science to me.

[Anonymous No.15916772]

>>15916745
Please explain in your own words how a 365 day average affects the predicted state of "ice free" (i.e. a local minimum of 0)
Also, why do you plot the surface area, hiding a potential variation in the ice thickness?

[Anonymous No.15916841]

Happy anniversary Al Gore, co-owner of Occidental Petroleum

[Anonymous No.15917019]

in this video of the carl sagan climate change address to congress gore looks like he's thinking "this is it. this is how i'm going to make millions of dollars. aah haa ha. AHHH HAAA HAAA HAA HA"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp-WiNXH6hI

[Anonymous No.15917025]

>>15916745
that's because we have put blankets on the ice to keep it comfy, chud. Just imagine if the ice wasn't comfy, it would be total chaos

[Anonymous No.15917029]

>>15916769
Jim Jones was a cult leader that led his followers in mass suicide via poisoned kool-aid. Over 900 people died, a out a third of them children. >>15916757 is saying that either the Anon who posted >>15916698 or else Al Gore is a member of a death cult charged with the responsibility of distributing the means of self-annihilation to thr true believers. He's wrong, though, because the climate cultists' violence is hardly ever self-directed. It is always other people who must suffer. (Say what you will about her, but what made Greta Thunberg or whatever her name was so notable is that she herself was willing to drink her own kool-aid, unlike every single environmentalist who has ever flown anywhere ever.)

[Anonymous No.15917032]

>>15916698
>No, he didn't predict anything, he cited a study that wasn't even finalised by that point. A preprint, if you will
Isn't that the same thing as making a prediction ? Like a bookkeeper predicting odds of horses winning a race, then you predicting which horse will win based on their predictions. Some scientists predicted the ice caps would likely melt, then gore predicted that the information was true enough to share with the country. A prediction by proxy. PolitiFact even seems to think it's mostly true
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/02/facebook-posts/fact-checking-claims-al-gore-said-all-arctic-ice-w/

[Anonymous No.15917061]

>>15916698
i thought the thread was about laughing at nobel price institution in general

[Anonymous No.15917072]

Never understood what Al Gore did to make anyone listen to a single word coming out of his mouth. Ran for president? The guy has no academic or scientific credentials, and given he's a strong proponent of the established academic system, would be the main way he could say his statements have any weight.
Before you reply to me to explain anything, I simply don't care.

[Anonymous No.15917196]

>>15917032
>Isn't that the same thing as making a prediction ?
No. Definitely not. Let's say your neighbour tells you "Tomorrow I'm gonna shoot up the school". You call the police and say "My neighbour told me he would shoot up the local school tomorrow", who made the threat against the school? You or him? Who will be arrested? Obviously him. You citing him doesn't mean that it is HIS statement.

[Anonymous No.15917197]

>>15917072
>Before you reply to me to explain anything, I simply don't care.
You care so little you even posted a comment about it, huh?

[Anonymous No.15917490]

>>15917072
He owns Occidental Petroleum, he inherited it when his father died in the 1990s

[Anonymous No.15918196]

>>15917490
If he thinks oil is bad, why doesn't he just shut down his oil company?

[Anonymous No.15918213]

>>15918196
Shut up.

[Anonymous No.15918315]

>>15916772
>anomaly trend graph
this sort of visualization is only ever used to mislead

[Anonymous No.15918578]

>>15916698
whether you deign to call it a prediction or not it was obviously used for a political statement, to rally people in the manner predictions are intended to.

[Anonymous No.15918602]

>>15917072
He has money and power. The establishment backs him even today. Plain facts like this >>15916679 are still controversial in academia, media, and government today.

[Anonymous No.15918971]

>>15918315
It’s just an offset. Instead of x(t), they plot x(t)-x0

[Anonymous No.15919571]

>>15916841
how come he looks like hes chinese? also look at the proportions of that fat neck and head compared to the narrow shoulders, he looks like some kind of caricature

[Anonymous No.15920568]

>hey hey hey, gimme all your money because climate an sheeiiiitt

[Anonymous No.15920602]

>>15917196
>Making threats is the same as making predictions

Why are global warming proponents so dishonest?

[Anonymous No.15922092]

>>15920602
dishonesty is fundamental to global warming, the global warming meme couldn't exist without lies

[Anonymous No.15923038]

>>15917197
>You care so little you even posted a comment about it, huh?

[Anonymous No.15923669]

>>15917072
His daddy was a senator and Al Jr inherited his political position.

[Anonymous No.15924164]

>>15917025
>lets go dump some garbage in a remote wilderness, thats bound to be good for the environment
why are """environmentalsists""" all this dumb?

[Anonymous No.15924185]

>>15924164
Wait till you hear about their plan to block the Sun.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2020/01/04/ask-ethan-could-we-just-build-a-space-shade-to-counteract-global-warming/?sh=52a169fe43bc

[Anonymous No.15924209]

>>15916679
if you can't trust your scientists, at least trust your politicians (or NGOs)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IaEgcRgE__M

[Anonymous No.15924265]

>>15924185
I'm starting to think that they don't actually like nature at all.

[Anonymous No.15925213]

>>15916698
Trust the science chud

[Anonymous No.15925739]

>>15923669
So Al Gore Jr never accomplished anything with his life other than holding on to what was handed down to him by daddy and as a result of that he is frustrated and desperate to show that he is more than just an heiress, so he glommed on to the stupid global warming hysteria as a means of trying to enhance his reputation.

[Anonymous No.15925775]

>>15916745
I can grow peaches in Ohio.

[Anonymous No.15925844]

>>15925775
Peaches will grow anywhere that doesn't suffer from extended period of time with temperatures below -15ºF, they grow them in Canada too.

[Anonymous No.15926891]

>>15925844
I grow tomatoes at 46ºN, tomatoes evolved as a tropical plant in South America.
That means the climate at 46ºN is the same as South America! My IQ is minuscule btw

[Anonymous No.15926907]

>>15916698
Read your own writing. The fact he didn't even mention the upper bound means he had an agenda to push. Why leave out the upper bounds? Why only say only half the picture? That's just deception.

[Anonymous No.15926917]

>>15920602
Replace the threat with a prediction. Your neighbor predicts it will rain tomorrow. You let your friend know your neighbor said it would rain. It does not rain. Did you predict it would rain? Or were you telling others what someone else predicted?

[Anonymous No.15927783]

>>15920568
He wears the same orange facial makeup Trump does

[Anonymous No.15928717]

>>15916679
>At the ceremony he said
Do you lick vomit in real life too?

[Anonymous No.15929460]

>>15926917
lmao look at this cuck
>i-i-i defended you, al gore!!
>will you be my friend now!?!?

>al gore: no

[Anonymous No.15930418]

>>15917025
the blankets only make the ice melt faster.
yet again global warming activists are intentionally destroying things in order to claim that global warming is real

[Anonymous No.15930437]

>>15916745
That's measures area of coverage not total ice volume

[Anonymous No.15930439]

>>15929460
You should resume your medication

[Anonymous No.15930892]

>>15930437
ice isn't disappearing in the arctic or the antarctic, sea level isn't rising either

[Anonymous No.15932034]

>>15930418

[Anonymous No.15933389]

>>15932034
They spent the whole summer starting forest fires and then claiming it was global warming that was to blame

[Anonymous No.15934197]

>>15916679
>Not only was he wrong, In the years since he received his prize Arctic icepack has only increased.
thats kind of too bad, i was hoping to see what was under the ice in greenland. the global warming lie is such a disappointment

[Anonymous No.15935208]

>>15934197
Probably all sorts of neat-o skeletons under the ice, maybe even some evidence of prehistoric human activity

[Anonymous No.15935789]

>>15917025
instead of transporting blankets all the way up there they could've just as easily brought more ice.

[Anonymous No.15936596]

>>15935789
They could've brought an ice machine and some solar panels to power it

[Anonymous No.15937377]

>>15930437
Why is it that the people who claim to be so upset about global warming chimp out whenever they see good news about the environment and the climate? Shouldn't they be happy to see good news about the environment if they're truly concerned about it?

[Anonymous No.15937803]

>>15916679
The ice caps will melt in 10-10,000,000 years.
Anyone who believed this retard are also retards

[Anonymous No.15938124]

When picrel was published almost 20 years ago it predicted a sea level rise of 59-2500cm by the end of the century. So far sea level hasn't even risen as much as 1cm

[Anonymous No.15938847]

>>15933389
They've been doing that for a long time, it wasn't just last summer. Wildland firefighters are also notorious arsonists, they all want to earn the bigtime fire season overtime money so they often start fires when none are occurring naturally.

[Anonymous No.15939511]

>>15916698
can't help but notice that literally every climate alarmist prediction that doesn't come true is dismissed this way. undoubtedly, the impending catastrophe you steadfastly and resolutely augur right now will fail and you'll run the same gimmick defense in 20 years. "real climate predictions have never been tried" type energy

[Anonymous No.15939649]

everyone except people with IQs under 95 has figured out global warming is fake by now

[Anonymous No.15939727]

>>15916698
You are a liar who should be dismissed. Al Gore predicted the Arctic would be ice-free by 2014, because thats what the consensus of the general public is. That’s how it works, not your subhuman legaliaese.

[Anonymous No.15939730]

>>15939511
> every climate alarmist prediction that doesn't come true is dismissed this way.
because they are lying subhuman statist scum.

[Anonymous No.15940422]

>>15939730
Thats right, global warming is just another big media hoax created with goals in mind other than environments ones. Global warming is as fake and nonexistent as Saddam's nuclear weapons were

[Anonymous No.15940572]

>>15940422
Wow. Fuck Eon Musk.

[Anonymous No.15940573]

>>15940572
He's the one making bank with his electric cars and his trips to mars.

[Anonymous No.15941522]

>>15940573
>oy vey!!
>stop noticing!!

[Anonymous No.15942191]

[Anonymous No.15942206]

>>15923038
lmao

[Anonymous No.15942230]

>>15938847
This sounds plausible, but source?

[Anonymous No.15942287]

>>15917029
That was the CIA, you stupid ignorant moron.

[Anonymous No.15942289]

>>15916698

[Anonymous No.15942294]

>>15938847
They are beyond that. They are speculating in the real state market by using harp weapons to destroy valuable property, buy it dirty cheap, and build again to sell it at huge profits.

[Anonymous No.15942379]

Conservatives can only cite media personalities as their evidence that AGW is false.

[Anonymous No.15942387]

>>15916679
he helped kickstart a whole new economy based on bullshit. that's impressive.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8AHkAJrpAxd4/

[Anonymous No.15942495]

>>15942379
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.15943378]

>>15942379
its posts like this which demonstrate that the global warming narrative has no basis in science and is a purely political narrative

[Anonymous No.15943395]

>>15916698
If you going to make a prediction so vague it can't be proven wrong , then that is Mr Gore's fault and is perfectly open for criticism.

In fact the utter lack of any climate prediction models is what made me change my mind about global warming.

Also if you can show me when we discovered how to accurately predict multi variable/choatic systems , that would be great because I must have had my head up my arse.

[Anonymous No.15943425]

>>15942379
What about graphs like this?
>HE'S NOT A REAL SCIENTIST
>HE WORKS FOR OIL COMPANIES SO IT DOESN'T COUNT

[Anonymous No.15944453]

>>15942495
this, people who want to politicize science show go to /pol/

[Anonymous No.15945062]

>>15916698
Hey, Al Gore!
How are the two waterside luxury homes holding up, you filthy conniving scammer?

[Anonymous No.15945246]

Climate scientists say X would happen by now, but it didn't! Therefore climate change isn't real, and we can cease our... Efforts to... Prevent... These predictions from... coming... true...