/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15908441]

>design a weapon
>call it a propulsion system

[Anonymous No.15908454]

>>15908441
>call it a weapon
>can't destroy its single target

[Anonymous No.15908550]

>>15908454
That's what the documents claim, but until it's actually built and tested we don't know that.

[Anonymous No.15908760]

>>15908441
>photon-particle coupling
has this ever actually been demonstrated?

[Got Shwifty No.15908978]

>>15908760
It's called radiation pressure anon

[Anonymous No.15908986]

>>15908760
Isn’t that what a MASER does?

[Anonymous No.15909006]

>muh soiyence fiction star wars fantasy life that i got from watch muh marvel comix moooooovies!!!
>>>/lit/22797623

[Anonymous No.15909014]

>>15909006
Bluepilled post

[Anonymous No.15909287]

>>15908986
Not as far as I understand, no. Masers are coherent microwave beams, with no particle accelerators involved.

[Anonymous No.15909289]

>>15908978
Has anybody ever demonstrated the pairing of a particle accelerator with a laser to defeat diffraction and beam spreading?

[Anonymous No.15909402]

>>15909289
I too would like to know. Usually cool useful things like this don’t work because we can’t have nice things.

[Anonymous No.15909551]

>>15908441
It's not weapon until it involves laser guided microwave heated x-ray beams or something like that, (UV light lasers)

[Anonymous No.15909740]

>>15908441
The whole space race of the 50's and 60's was about designing ICBM's so I don't know why you think this is a new thing.
Funny how they "lost" the tech build moon rockets but defense contractors have no problem churning out as many of these bad boys as uncle sam can pay for..

[Anonymous No.15909845]

>>15909740
>Funny how they "lost" the tech build moon rockets
That's because in the grand tradition of 1960s American manufacturing the plans for the F-1 engine didn't actually work as specified and the machinists needed to do undocumented tweaks on the factory floor to make the F-1 engines work. NASA fished an F-1 out of the ocean and assigned a bunch of undegrad interns to scan it into CAD and reverse engineer the modifications, which they did.

[Anonymous No.15909865]

>>15909845
>undocumented tweaks
>built multiple Saturn V's over a 6 year period between 1967 and 1973
yea no, they just literally did not give a fuck about "space" and only wanted the tech perfected for ICBM. Give the goyim their stupd teevee moon landings and moon buggy, then scrap the whole stupid thing once you've rigged the whole planet with nukes.

[Anonymous No.15910716]

>>15908550
>>15909289
I have been patiently waiting for my ban to expire. Polariton driven gamma ray laser FTW. I would argue that we have been at this since the late 90's. NASA just had it backwards. It's a gamma ray laser blasting a high Z target, like gold or tungsten.
>Inb4 retarded
The "photon particle coupling" in the OP is a plasmonic excitation ala' Lene Hau, Wolfgang Ketterle, and LiJun Wang
https://groups.seas.harvard.edu/haulab/slow_light_project/slow_light_project.htm
>>/sci/thread/15840634
I am not linking all the papers, they are in the archive thread about optical phase conjugation.
>Spatially compressed
>She never says what happens to the wavelength
>Four wave mixing in an EIT trap FTW

[Anonymous No.15910721]

>>15908441
And it is indeed a weapon. Some UFO tards saw if tested outside the perimeter fence at Dugway. I can elaborate, if anons are willing. It is indeed not bullshit. 2004 was a happening year.

[Anonymous No.15910724]

>>15910716
>I have been patiently waiting for my ban to expire.
What were you banned for?

[Anonymous No.15910726]

>>15908760
Yes. It's called a plasmon polariton, or in the Nobel work by Ketterle a "coherent population oscillation" in a BEC of (insert dilute alkali gas) aka "matter wave". This research literally won a Nobel and had not one, but two publications in Nature (only one is Ketterle for EIT, the other is Wang for "Gain Assisted Superluminal Propagation").

[Anonymous No.15910727]

>>15910724
Probably calling some in-imaginative faggot a faggot for not being able to visualize Mach's thought experiment on the origin of inertia.

[Anonymous No.15910730]

>>15910724
I hope you stick around, anon. This is indeed real. I can provide a shit ton of actual science performed by R-1 universities coincidentally funded directly by DoD affiliated organizations that has defense contractor employed physicists directly attached to papers as co-authors.

[Anonymous No.15910740]

>>15910716
>waiting for my ban to expire
This is the most pathetic thing I've ever heard on /sci/.

[Anonymous No.15910779]

>>15910740
Don't be a faggot. Are you the thought experiment guy?

[Anonymous No.15910795]

>duuuuude!!! muh hollywood sci fi fantasy life is totally real!!!
>comic books are real guys!!

[Anonymous No.15910867]

>>15910795
get a grip, weirdo

[Anonymous No.15910890]

>>15909865
Which missiles used the F-1?

[Anonymous No.15911000]

>>15908441
And just like MARAUDER (though that was an explicit weapon) we'll never hear about it again because development has disappeared into glowie black sites

[Anonymous No.15912583]

>>15908441
>>15909289
anyone gonna explain what this shit is? Can you actually stop photons diverging?

[Anonymous No.15912716]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbNgvHfK4wI

1924 tech, explode gunpowder from distance, etc, etc

[Anonymous No.15913053]

>>15912583
Yes. It's called optical phase conjugation.
Robert Hellwarth at USC and Yakov Zel'dovich the OG.
>>/sci/thread/15840634
>Laser self-focusing.

[Anonymous No.15913350]

>>15912583
And to further elaborate, not only can you stop photon dispersion, but you can do the same for coherent atom oscillations (aka a matter wave). There is metric fuckton of weird defense related research that occurred in the 90's and early 2000's when the first BECs were created, and their anomalous non-linear optical properties were discovered. You can make light do all sorts of weird shit when you turn it into a plasmonic excitation in a matter wave. The real question is whether you can amplify Mr. Matter Wave above the critical field limit, which I believe you can, and much easier so than a traditional laser.
>4 wave mixing FTW
Also, this is not some made up concept. It's a SPASER/polariton laser
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaser
Notice in the Harvard link to Lene Hau's work in the 90's/2000's she talks excitedly about "ultra compressed light" in a BEC, but just so happens to never mention what happens to the wavelength of the input pulse upon entering the medium. Then take a look at the "Acknowledgement" sections of all her papers
>DARPA
>Air Force Research Lab
>Office of Naval Research
Then take a look at her co-authors, and where one of them just happens to work
>Zachary Dutton - Raytheon BBN

[Anonymous No.15913371]

>>15909865
This. It was the ultimate flex on Russia.
>If we can land what is essentially a warhead bus atop what is also essentially an ICBM on the fucking moon, we can surely put one right on top of the Kremlin
The ultimate CEP flex. This is why Russia had a bazillion multi-megaton nuclear weapons because they couldn't reliably get remotely close to their target. Meanwhile, there is MX test footage of us putting a MIRV through the front door of a house.

[Anonymous No.15913407]

>>15910726
Basically you increase the kinetic energy of electrons by shooting photons at them.

[Anonymous No.15913419]

>>15913407
Sort of, but not really. If anything, the EIT traps also function as your laser or RF cooling mechanism, so you're really lowering their kinetic energy to bring the temperature down to the pico-Kelvin regime. Your photon energy states are converted to a plasmonic excitation in your dilute alkali gas (or in a solid material). The limitations on how much energy you can load into the medium depends on the degrees of freedom available in your gas/plasma. Once you drop the field providing the confinement in the EIT trap, the excitation comes barreling out as photons again, but this time with a drastically reduced wavelength (and quite possibly greatly enhanced amplitude).

[Anonymous No.15913426]

>>15908441
Reminds me of the photon torpedoes from Star Trek.

[Anonymous No.15913428]

Have a link from the old years ago
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread901726/pg3
>Good thing it's all just tales to entertain
But is it?
>The LiJun Wang in question
https://www.scribd.com/document/208319/NEC-Time-Travel-Experiment-in-2000
This is the follow up. The original paper printed in Nature in 2000 is titled "Gain Assisted Superluminal Propagation"
>It is our hope that our work can find its usefulness in peaceful applications that benefit humanity
Sounds a lot like someone understood the defense implications of their research very, very well

[Anonymous No.15913429]

[Barkun No.15913431]

>>15913428
When that morning star comes you. Trust me. I don't care how much pain you're taking in a relative sense. I do not profit from this hell, it's meaningless to me. Because of how you looked then, you will suffer that, and it's nothing to do with my own feeling. You're shit. You will wear these clothes.

[Anonymous No.15913432]

>>15913419
>drastically reduced wavelength
Shorter wavelength = more energy in the photons. So they juice the photons and then boost the electrons, giving them more push. Right?

[Anonymous No.15913446]

>>15913432
The implications is that you can push a relatively low power laser into the gamma regime with a 4-wave mixing scheme in (insert non-linear, anomalously dispersive medium here) and possibly use your two pump beams to drastically amplify the input pulse ala' Ketterle's "Onset of Matter Wave Amplification in a Superradiant Bose-Einstein Condensate".

[Anonymous No.15913456]

>>15913432
Essentially, but most of the work is in atomic media like lithium/rubidium/cesium/sodium/strontium. You can find some oblique references to similar work done with solid crystals like Barium Titanite, but most of that stuff is related to radar, communications, and laser self-focusing using optical phase conjugation. There are examples of the same basic effect in a condensate of excitons (bound electron/electron hole pairs), but DESU that is above my technical understanding.

[Anonymous No.15913463]

>>15913446
Sorry to oversimplify, but basically what you described is a method to increase the kinetic energy of electrons, right? Obviously with kinetic energy you can push objects like science probes, satellites, and kinetic bombardment weapons.

[Anonymous No.15913480]

>>15913463
No, or at least as I understand it. Increasing kinetic energy would imply an increase in temperature, which is not something you would want when you're attempting to bring something to basically absolute zero.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3834199
The entire point of this is not to "push" anything (allegedly). It's so you can make a gamma ray laser. And let's say you take that GRL and blast a high-z target like gold or tungsten to create positrons pairs...maybe a particle beam of bound state postironium comes out the business end.

[Anonymous No.15913489]

>>15913463
Maybe you could shoot the electron beam at evil doers on Earth too. *zap* Or you could shoot it at datacenters or other electronics.

[Anonymous No.15913499]

Have some more old links talking about exactly this in the most oblique possible ways
https://m.fark.com/comments/1203844/9725308
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread637964/pg2
The UFO tards' website he is referring to
http://www.aliendave.com/Photos_Skywatch_UTTR_72204.html
He was even interviewed by the local Fox Affiliate because this was seen by other people and reported in the local paper. The news station even called UTTR about the test, which they indeed confirmed something was tested, but get fucked on what.
https://youtu.be/4tsn38MHa9c?si=5DMWEnImhvpVzaCD
He has a much more dramatic photo of it from another test in 2015 that is definitely not on his website, but shown in this interview.

[Anonymous No.15913554]

Another super odd thing about this research is the distinct lack of patents. This is Nobel winning science with applications in quantum computing, radar, communications, and lasing without inversion. But there is virtually no application patents, just on the process of creating the BEC and on the electromagnetically induced transparency trap, and those are held by Harvard and MIT. It's almost like most of this went classified. Ironically, Lene Hau was named to some DoD scientific council directly after she published.
https://patents.google.com/?q=(Wolfgang)&inventor=ketterle&oq=Wolfgang+ketterle
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Lene+Hau&oq=Lene+Hau
https://patents.google.com/?q=(Zachary)&inventor=Dutton&oq=Zachary+Dutton+
LiJun Wang has absolutely zero, and neither does the NEC America Lab at Princeton.
https://patents.google.com/?assignee=NEC+Lab+America&before=priority:20050101&after=priority:19990101&page=4
Why is this?

[Anonymous No.15913559]

>>15913554
Maybe it's like the Coke recipe, where trademarking requires disclosure. To keep it on the DL, they need to avoid patents. Just speculation, since you asked for it.

[Anonymous No.15913584]

>>15913559
No, not for National Security patents. Have another link where this is discussed. I actually know a TS cleared patent attorney, and he confirmed this is an accurate description of the process.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread630313/pg3
And definitely not. These are not trade secrets for a private corporation, these are research projects performed at DoD funded labs at R-1 universities. More than likely, these fall under the same category as a nuclear weapon component or design patent (Born Secret) under the Invention Secrecy Act.

[Anonymous No.15913598]

>>15913559
To add, it was a rhetorical question.

[Anonymous No.15913610]

>>15913559
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/35/181#:~:text=Whenever%20publication%20or%20disclosure%20by,of%20Patents%20upon%20being%20so

[Anonymous No.15913612]

https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s120.html#:~:text=The%20intent%20of%20the%20Type,technical%20data%20in%20the%20application.

[Anonymous No.15913617]

>>15913584
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing this.

[Anonymous No.15913621]

>>15908441
Everything's a weapon if it's fast enough.

[Anonymous No.15913645]

>>15913617
It's all VERY interesting information, isn't it? I have been posting this shit for years on 4chan, but no one really gave it a second look on /sci/ until about a week ago. I have yet to encounter anyone that can provide evidence that this is all bullshit. Every once in a while I get 'muh larp', but if it is, it's the shittiest most esoteric larp ever because the larper appears to be extraordinarily well informed and there is only a handful of people on both Fark and ATS that engaged in discussion with him (they are both the same guy). There used to be much, much more explicit posts (elaboration on the Kenny Edwards' NIAC report that prompted the SF Chronicle articles on the USAF antimatter weapons program run out of Penn State by Edwards and a guy named Gerald Smith), but they have been gone for years. (((Allegedly))), the DIA caught wind and scrubbed them from the net. Here is him talking about it.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread913063/pg5

[Anonymous No.15913704]

>>15913645
It's all interesting, but I think this >>15913419 is mind-blowing. Hopefully the tech has advanced to the point where these electron beam weapons are already in space. Since they are not prohibited under any nuclear proliferation treaties, they seems like an excellent tool to shoot down ICBM's, or really anything in space.

[Anonymous No.15913737]

>>15913704
>nuclear proliferation treaties
I meant space treaties. My bad.

[Anonymous No.15913742]

Google is actually a University asset, it is for students only.

[Anonymous No.15913767]

>>15913645
Do you know what they are using in the latest tech in terms of using electrons or atoms? Since hydrogen theoretically has an infinite number of energy levels, it seem to have the most potential for storing kinetic energy. However, electrons seem simpler since they can be harvested from solar cells or stored in batteries.

[Anonymous No.15913813]

>>15910721
Please elaborate.
I personally have a slightly different theory for the workings of said device but it is nevertheless related to some degree.

[Anonymous No.15913819]

>>15913767
Positrons.

[Barkun No.15913828]

>>15913819
She. Fell ova

[Anonymous No.15913848]

>>15913828
Huh?

[Anonymous No.15913849]

>>15910727
>in-imaginative
Science & Math???????????????????

[Anonymous No.15913856]

>>15913819
Shooting positrons at anything using electrons, like computers, would obliterate it, right?

[Anonymous No.15913877]

>>15913856
It’s not like that but I’ll try explaining it briefly.
You have electrons in each atom. The most outer ones ‘define’ the chemistry of the atom, i.e. are used to form chemicals.
Positrons would annihilate with these electrons as they collide. This on itself already strips the atom of an electron(s). The process also emits two gamma rays, which themselves too ionize atoms.
There is no interaction with the nucleus at any point, so no radioactivity is induced. But the chemistry is ‘fucked up’, which means it’s very deadly to any life, including humans.
Computers would be affected too but that’s a separate topic. It wouldn’t be worse than for living beings though.

[Anonymous No.15913884]

>>15913877
Sounds like an excellent destructive tool in space.

[Anonymous No.15913890]

>>15913884
It’s an excellent destructive tool anywhere.
It’s especially useful as unlike nukes, there is no radioactive residue. One could sterilize an area and move in immediately afterwards. At low power levels (with no considerable thermal effects; still more than enough to kill) it wouldn’t affect the infrastructure in general, other than electronics.

[Anonymous No.15913924]

>>15913890
Wouldn't it not work on Earth because it would immediately interact with electrons in the atmosphere?

[Anonymous No.15914009]

>>15913704
This is exactly what I think it is. If anyone read the links, it allegedly uses geomagnetic conjugate points for targeting, which heavily implies manipulation of the ionosphere. While this sounds retarded, the DoD is hard at work on the ionospheric manipulation front. There is gamma and X-ray propagation data from conjugate point to conjugate point from the LANL's report on the Starfish Prime nuclear tests. There is also LANL/AFRL's BEAR test in the 80's (Beam Experiment Aboard a Rocket). The laser system appears to be a ground system, with the ionospheric ducting portion maybe satellite or facilitated by maybe a satellite of SSTO.
>>15913813
You're the pollack from /pol/ and /k/?>>15913767
Think bound state postironium instead of anti-hydrogen. There is a guy at UC Riverside doing the same think in reverse. >Dr Allen P Mills Jr., Positronium annihilation driven gamma ray laser
Coincidentally, his name comes up in the NIAC PDF. It's too large to post here, but you can search "Kenneth Edwards NIAC 2004".

[Anonymous No.15914020]

>>15913924
>Laser induced plasma channel FTW

[Anonymous No.15914027]

>>15913704
Also, there is this. It's hinted at in the posts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryanggang_explosion
There is also a weird YouTube video of a very, very similar phenomena in Iraq around the same time.
https://youtu.be/0GeIImbZpCo?si=k4Ky8Ix19mQ4aIDq
>"Maaaan, that's some weird shit"
>"There's a red fog around it"

[Anonymous No.15914038]

>>15913704
What really will blow your mind is the LiJun Want follow-up. The paper never mentions plasmonics or polaritons, but that's exactly what's occuring. The really odd thing about his work is that a plasmonic excitation in the cesium gas is traveling faster than photons would over the same distance in a vacuum. I keep hearing 'muh no information is transmitted FTL', but if the information contained in the input pulse is the same as the exit pulse, what now? By turning photons into a plasmonic excitation and then back into photons, did you violate Bell's Theorem or not because of some technicality because it's not "the original pulse"

[Anonymous No.15914056]

>>15913924
>>15914020
Just put the thing in space.
Positrons also allow for ground breaking advances in propulsion systems. SSTO utilizing them would be a thing of dreams.
>>15914009
>You're the pollack from /pol/ and /k/?
Yes.
I still think the bare positron thing makes the most sense here. As I’ve explained in those other threads, it’s very simple (as far as ‘similar’ solutions go), seems to work great on paper and has great development potential as higher relativistic velocities could be achieved (and to a lesser degree, higher power as in amount of particles in the beam).

[Anonymous No.15914060]

>>15914056
I’d also like to add how the fact that positron-electron annihilation could be used both for a WMD and propulsion is very convenient.

[Anonymous No.15914062]

To add, I am not making any statements from a position of authority. I'm just a regular guy who didn't even go to school for this shit. However, I am not retarded and have been intensely interested in this since I was in high school (around the time all this research started to make the news). I also am fortunate enough to know a couple people that I strongly suspect know about this. I have asked one guy in particular that would absolutely be in a position to know (PhD in EE from Texas A&M, Major in the AF stationed at Edwards for his 20, does unmentionable shit for the government now which I confirmed through a third party, writes orbital mechanics textbooks, has a bunch of weird vague plaques from military service/weird project patches framed in his office), and he told me one day "anon, you need to stop asking me about this. I can't tell you anything about this, and you know why. Never ask me again".

[Anonymous No.15914069]

>>15914056
Too big, homie. It takes a lot of infrastructure to get things that cold. Your would also be dumping ultra short duration laser pulses into whatever gaseous/solid medium produces the effect. This implies lots of power and capacitors, probably similar to Shiva Star's role in MARAUDER. You would more than likely need a nuclear reactor attached to power the thing, which would preclude being in space. Obviously "the if you had direct metric engineering" comment implies that it could be spacebrone and that maybe it's a drive system emanating gamma in more 'directional manner', but that is way the fuck out there. I'm trying to stick to actual science and not the more esoteric Fark posts about non-inertial flight (which I also believe are real-ish). I will say that positronium makes more sense as it would be bound state and electrically neutral for a particle beam.

[Anonymous No.15914196]

>>15914009
Interesting. I think you’re connecting the dots between electron/positron annihilation, the photon release that results, and using that energy to control the weather, right? That’s what you were implying when you brought up the ionosphere?

[Anonymous No.15914206]

>>15914196
No, this has absolutely zero to do with weather control. As a matter of fact, "Bedlam" or "Tom Bedlam" on ATS repeatedly shits on the normal conspiracies about HAARP, Biefield/Brown effect, etc.. Which makes this "larp" way fucking odder.
>For the pollack
You're looking for somewhere that supports this sort of research, fren? I am not sure of your age, but the Max Planck Institute for Quantum Optics would be very close to you. Ketterle was there before MIT, and that's where LiJun Wang went after Princeton/NEC America.

[Anonymous No.15914269]

>>15914196
There IS one aspect that relates somewhat to weather? Did you know that lightning strikes exhibit the same gamma double flash as if from positron annihilation? Boeing even did a study on it. The vast amount of terrestrial gamma ray bursts comes from intense thunderstorms. The AFRL is awfully fucking interested in it as well. Ironically, one of the primary gamma ray detectors is at UTTR Dugway...

[Anonymous No.15914272]

>>15908441
>just like in muh soiyence fiction moooooovies!!!

[Anonymous No.15914275]

>>15914206
Changing the temperature of the atmosphere, with annihilation, seems like an effective way to control the weather, so I don’t understand why people would dismiss it so prematurely.

[Anonymous No.15914293]

>>15914206
>I am not sure of your age
Very early 20s.
>You're looking for somewhere that supports this sort of research, fren?
Not really.
I already have a defined career path. Just about done with bachelor’s in aerospace engineering, already working in the industry. I plan to follow with master’s and try to move to the US, hoping to utilize some fun things I’ve come up (related to planes, not this) as a leverage.
Only then I plan to use my knowledge/ideas related to topics discussed here (along with a few other ones, like MHD in aircraft for example), maybe land some nice job at a black project. Of course, that would be few years more down the line, once I would get the citizenship.
In other words, I plan to stick to aviation for now. Maybe later in life this will lead me to what we’re discussing.

[Anonymous No.15914295]

>>15914069
>>15914069
The problem with positronium is that it’s unstable and the lifetime is in the range of nanoseconds. In general, you’d need to produce it on demand while positrons can be relatively easily stored (being charged also gives much more methods of storing and accelerating them).
It’s 2 am here, I’ll try explaining more tomorrow but I can’t promise anything. I have my reasons to believe how it is completely feasible to build such a space based system.

[Anonymous No.15914320]

>>15914295
Again, Dr. Allen P Mills Jr., Raytheon, and Postironics LLC believe that you are wrong. The last one is a big one. That's the NIAC guy and his buddy Gerald Smith from Penn State's antimatter propulsion/weapons program.
https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Air-Force-pursuing-antimatter-weapons-Program-2689674.php
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20100012864
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6576916
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6813330
>>15914293
I know this is the pollack again, but why not see about le' Max Planck Institute? These are all aerospace applications. Like this one...
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread935820/pg1
>The Russian to which he refers to later in the thread
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoliy_Koroteyev
Do you think the Russian sit and stew about how shitty it is to have all this ground breaking research like Vesalago (metamaterials), Ulmestev (Method of Edge Wave Diffraction, Koroteyev (plasma), and Zel'dovich (phase conjugation) co-opted by their mortal enemy to fuck them raw?

[Anonymous No.15914328]

>>15914293
>>15914320
The project patch in question. I got it from the Photobucket account years ago before it was deleted. The "Classified Flight Test" one is the original. "To Serve Man" was issued after it was leaked (((allegedly))).

[Anonymous No.15914412]

>>15914272
Don't be a fucking faggot. Extraordinarily reputable papers have been posted to support this, and the original image is from the NASA Propulsion Lab. Are you the faggot from the phase conjugation thread who was too stupid to believe it's real?

[Anonymous No.15914440]

I seriously can't wait until science fucks up so hard it destroys the world
No mathematicians ever destroyed the world

[Anonymous No.15914456]

>>15914295
The implications are that it is indeed made on the fly. Hence the GRASER. It sure seems like you can not only compress a laser pulse into the gamma regime with plasmon polaritons, but amplify the matter wave with pump lasers (4 wave mixing).
>Make it on the fly, of course. How do YOU guys do it? That's what makes Proteus so spooky - you can honk a collimated relativistic beam of positronium at someone at the mA level.
Someone in the Navy/DoE is an X-Men fan

[Anonymous No.15914471]

>>15914295
In my opinion the spiciest slide set in the PDF to support my opinion.
>1/2

[Anonymous No.15914473]

Potentially the spiciest slide
>2/2

[Anonymous No.15914515]

>>15914473
This kind of stuff amazes me. I don't even fully understand how a magnetron works, even with help from ChatGPT and Google, and yet when I look at the history of it, someone figured it and perfected it decades ago. Some people are so amazing, and perhaps so lucky, that they can understand these facets of the universe and build devices to use them. As incredible as the magentron is, today it costs around just $40 on Amazon.

[Anonymous No.15914525]

>>15914515
I mean...yeah. That's why aliens as the source of (((UFOs))) is retarded. They are ours, and the result of trillions of dollars and a legion of smart motherfuckers hard at work since the 1940's. Do you know who administered the National Science Foundation when it was founded? The Office of Naval Research to continue 'the unlimited budget research post WWII".

[Anonymous No.15914544]

Fuck, I'll post them. Someone call bullshit on "muh artificial Kerr Singularity".
https://inspirehep.net/literature/513474
https://m.fark.com/comments/4371964/50903132/Scientists-think-warp-driven-starships-may-be-possible-one-day-at-least-until-some-acting-ensign-pulls-o#c50903132
https://www.fark.com/comments/1386759/11882728/Behold-The-USAF-Top-Secret-Nuclear-Powered-Flying-Triangle-Thingy-in-all-its-glory-Oh-yes-there-are-pics?sticky_host_f=1#c11882728

[Anonymous No.15916104]

Oh the imagination in these guys.
Why don’t you find something productive to do, instead of coming up with such unwarranted conspiracy theories?

[Anonymous No.15916176]

>>15914544
>muh evidence
>it's literally schizos ranting

[Anonymous No.15916432]

>>15908441
There is no such thing as a "photon"

[Anonymous No.15917097]

>>15916432
Do you have a different name or a different theory for the chunks of electromagnetic energy being exchanged with atoms?

[Anonymous No.15917120]

>>15913856
PET scanners exist, so probably not.

[Anonymous No.15917483]

>>15917097
Superfluid Vacuum Theory maybe?

[Anonymous No.15918075]

>>15914272
How many times are you going to make this same post?

[Anonymous No.15918161]

>>15917120
But PET scanners track annihilation events, not the positrons themselves

[Anonymous No.15918211]

>>15918075
Magically no one has provided an explanation as to why it isn't entirely plausible.

[Anonymous No.15918215]

>>15916104
>t. Office of Naval Intelligence