/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.15896959]

Sign - edition

previous >>15894391

[Anonymous No.15896962]

>>15896959
First for 16 launches

[Anonymous No.15896963]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsonSEllPmU

[Anonymous No.15896964]

Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

[Anonymous No.15896968]

[Anonymous No.15896970]

>>15896962
I hate him so much

[Anonymous No.15896974]

>>15896963
>drone being hit by the cybertruck towing stuff
Wasn't there a picture of it happening a month or two ago at starbase?

[Anonymous No.15896976]

>>15896974
Yes, there was.

[Anonymous No.15896981]

>>15896974

[Anonymous No.15896989]

>>15896981
worth it

[Anonymous No.15896990]

>>15896968
Imagine if he didnt use CO2

[Anonymous No.15896997]

>>15896962
Top-G.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5GevpAGDWE&t

[Anonymous No.15897011]

>>15896989
Expenable drones

[Anonymous No.15897024]

Bill Nelson Tours India to Discuss Space Collaboration
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https://payloadspace.com/bill-nelson-welcomed-in-india/
> Bill Nelson’s world tour has touched down in India.
>On Monday, the NASA chief landed in the newly minted Moon-faring nation, where he has been making rounds with high-ranking officials. The trip, which builds on space agreements announced during Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s state visit in June, emphasizes space tech and research collaboration, with a focus on human exploration and Earth science.
> The centerpiece of Nelson’s trip is a visit to a Bengaluru facility where the joint US-India NISAR satellite is being tested.
>NISAR 101: NISAR is the first shared satellite mission between the two countries. Slated for a 2024 launch aboard India’s GSLV rocket, the bird will collect data on our planet’s environment, landscapes, and ice masses. The insights gained from analyzing the data will be used to address climate change, disaster management, and agriculture challenges.

[Anonymous No.15897025]

New QI thruster interview.

https://nitter.net/RaMansell/status/1730365445109063843

[Anonymous No.15897027]

>>15896968
kek

[Anonymous No.15897028]

JAXA Suffers Cyberattack, SpaceX acquires parachute supplier
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https://payloadspace.com/jaxa-suffers-cyberattack/
> Hackers infiltrated Japan’s space agency’s internal systems this summer, but it doesn’t appear they accessed info related to the country’s launch or satellite operations, JAXA announced.
> “There was a possibility of unauthorized access by exploiting the vulnerability of network equipment,” according to a JAXA spokesperson.
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https://spacenews.com/spacex-acquires-parachute-supplier/
> WASHINGTON — In a rare acquisition, SpaceX has purchased out of bankruptcy a company that provided components for Dragon spacecraft parachutes.
> A federal bankruptcy court in Florida approved an agreement Nov. 22 whereby SpaceX would acquire Pioneer Aerospace for $2.2 million. The deal was first reported by The Information.
>Pioneer’s parent company, Aviation Safety Resources (ASR), filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the Middle District of Florida on Nov. 1. ASR acquired Pioneer Aerospace from Safran Electronics and Defense in June 2022.

[Anonymous No.15897029]

>>15897025
about to? when

[Anonymous No.15897040]

>>15896338
>example, NASA's original design did not provide the minimum amount of emergency life support needed for the Artemis III mission
How? Literally fucking how?!

[Anonymous No.15897041]

>>15897029
December.

[Anonymous No.15897046]

>>15896968
Remarkably high effort for how anti musk it is.

[Anonymous No.15897057]

Listening to the interview, it looks like IVO is trying to raise orbit by 100km, change eccentricity, and change inclination with the thrusters. Make it visible from the ground, and apply more delta-V than just stuffing it full of rocket propellant would have enabled.

[Anonymous No.15897065]

>>15897057
who is ivo?

[Anonymous No.15897067]

>>15897057
okay, so it should be easily falsifiable if it fails and I guess not something that a tape outgassing drive would be capable of

[Anonymous No.15897069]

>>15897065
They're the ones that put a QI thruster on an orbital satellite and are now testing it.

>>15897067
Right, they want it to be completely unambiguous. The only way we get "we don't know" is if there's an electrical short unrelated to the principles of drive operation or the satellite gets smacked by a solar flare.

[Anonymous No.15897070]

>>15897057
So they’re going into this assuming they can move it and they’re looking to show it’s not a magic trick? bodes well

[Anonymous No.15897071]

>>15897065
Schizo drive company

[Anonymous No.15897072]

>>15897070
Yup. Countdown to t0 of aether sail timeline is nominal.

[Anonymous No.15897075]

>AHHHHHHH, I'M SUUUING

https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/30/former-blue-origin-rocket-engine-manager-alleges-wrongful-termination-for-whistleblowing-on-safety/

[Anonymous No.15897076]

>>15897040
SLS mass margins are tighter than a fat girl's pants, please understand.

[Anonymous No.15897078]

>>15897075
Learned from his boss

[Anonymous No.15897079]

>>15897075
>BO's contract with ULA requires them to share issues that could impact BE-4 delivery 1 year in advance; Stoker wanted to tell ULA the engines would likely be delayed due to production issues.
>But Smith allegedly told Stoker not to share these issues with ULA.

[Anonymous No.15897080]

>>15897079
This explains why Boob Smith was fired, so they can deflect the lawsuit with "this was a former employee who acted without authorization".

[Anonymous No.15897091]

>>15897069
>>15897071
So does the drive work or is it inconclusive so far?

[Anonymous No.15897095]

>>15897091
It hasn't been fired up yet, there are other experiments crammed into the cubesat that needed this specific orbit to work so they got to go first.

[Anonymous No.15897097]

>>15897091
We find out in 2(minus one) weeks

[Anonymous No.15897104]

>>15897079
>required by law to do something
>boss says dont do it
>do it anyway otherwise felony
>get fired
>homeless, starving, verge of suicide
>boss gets fired for firing you
>he gets off with a golden parachute
gun.jpg

[Anonymous No.15897123]

>>15897076
Remember ALPACA and its "negative mass margins"?

>>15897091
All the schizos already assume it works. When it fails to perform, they will simply assert that something was wrong with the test.

[Anonymous No.15897130]

>>15896962
>Fill M'Ass In

[Anonymous No.15897132]

>>15897123
>When it fails to perform, they will simply assert that something was wrong with the test.
Saving this post for the gloating compilation.

[Anonymous No.15897135]

>>15896968
Imagine if he used CO2

[Anonymous No.15897160]

fluid hammer

[Anonymous No.15897164]

>>15897160
Take outgassing hammer

[Anonymous No.15897167]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIpc_YN7YQM
> Starship IFT 2 Launch Footage - CSI Starbase

[Anonymous No.15897171]

its actually fucking over
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-106256
we will NOT be going back to the moon this decade

[Anonymous No.15897173]

>>15897171
We AREN'T going

[Anonymous No.15897182]

>>15897171
inb4 Artemis gets delayed long enough for 100kWe scale QI thrusters to replace chemical rockets for lunar transfers

[Anonymous No.15897204]

I watched an interview with the guy who did Elons most recent biography, and he said when Elon saw the absolute state of things with Starship before IFT 1 he was pacing around manically murmering 'we'll never get to Mars. we'll never get to mars'.

I used to be a firm believer 10 years ago that SpaceX would land humans on Mars in 2030 and begin a colony before Elons death, but the longer time marches on the further the date of the colony seems to slip away. He must wake up in a cold sweat now thinking that it won't happen in his lifetime without miraculous work.

[Anonymous No.15897209]

>>15897204
>interview with the guy who did Elons most recent biography,
source?

[Anonymous No.15897214]

>>15897209
https://youtu.be/9BDmC5u_MLE?si=L194qVDPQae38kZB

[Anonymous No.15897281]

D&C shills raiding us regularly I see kek. IFT-2 was a complete success, YWNBAW and SpaceX won, you'll never break our spirit through all your trickery and deception.

[Anonymous No.15897285]

Do we have an IFT-3 timeframe yet?

[Anonymous No.15897286]

>>15897204
He should lose some weight if he wants to live longer, unless he just has a freakish barrel chest by nature

[Anonymous No.15897287]

>>15897285
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15897291]

>>15897285
somewhere between 14 days and a fortnight

[Anonymous No.15897293]

>>15897285
Earlyish Q1 2024. Could be sooner but it won't be.

[Anonymous No.15897300]

>>15897285
I cant remember but I think 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15897301]

>>15897285
just before christmas

[Anonymous No.15897305]

>>15897285
3.6318917! days

[Anonymous No.15897328]

GAO qrd? Haven't read it yet

[Anonymous No.15897331]

>>15897285
Just over 1.2 Ms

[Anonymous No.15897332]

>>15897328
Starship delayed
HLS delayed
Axiom suits delayed
shits fucked

[Anonymous No.15897339]

>>15896959

Billion upon billions of keks.

[Anonymous No.15897341]

>>15897332
damn

[Anonymous No.15897349]

>>15897332
at least ksp 2 is getting the science update on the 19th
that's cool, right?

[Anonymous No.15897350]

>>15897285
tomorrow

[Anonymous No.15897368]

>>15897204
Mars has to be the ultimate reddit soiboy bait. The whole point of the machine is cheap access of large tonnage to leo. where you can build whatever the fuck you want to send where ever the fuck you want. Including mars. Even though for off world industrialization moon is the saner option for starting out. Mars is going to be the antartica of space for a while that is going to have research outposts for a long while before any actual industry starts establishing itself around the discovered ore deposits

As far as that goes the machine is halfway there in expendable mode

[Anonymous No.15897373]

Artemis has fallen
billions must learn chinese

[Anonymous No.15897408]

>>15897373
Reddit meme go back

[Anonymous No.15897414]

CAM ON SPACEX!
>*BANG* *BANG* *BANG*
LAUNCH SAHM FOOKIN' STAHSHIPS!
>*BANG* *BANG* *BANG*

[Anonymous No.15897430]

>>15897414
LAWNCH THE FAHKIN SHIP

[Anonymous No.15897448]

>>15897285
IT JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

[Anonymous No.15897502]

so what do we think about reusable VTOL surface to air autonomous jet powered drones?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al9ITeP4fUA
i heard spacex guys went to work on this?

[Anonymous No.15897512]

>>15897502
Not spaceflight fuck off /k/opetrannt

[Anonymous No.15897514]

>>15897512
dilate

[Anonymous No.15897515]

>>15897512
it IS spaceflight
it flies and its in space

[Anonymous No.15897520]

>>15897502
Cybertruck

[Anonymous No.15897532]

>>15897512
>it flies
>its in space
space is everywhere :)

[Anonymous No.15897543]

What did he mean by this?
https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1730466542196867381?t=oOwz60XC_fsp2nF5DxS07A&s=19

[Anonymous No.15897552]

>>15897512
implessive..
all aeronautics is sfg my gutter oil diet friend

[Anonymous No.15897556]

>>15897543
You know what I'd call him?

[Anonymous No.15897572]

>>15897556
double earther

[Anonymous No.15897585]

secret space program

[Anonymous No.15897588]

>>15897556
No, please tell.

[Anonymous No.15897593]

[Anonymous No.15897597]

Falcon Heavy. Next Sunday.

[Anonymous No.15897650]

>>15897285
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v-33jcEDk4&t=19s

[Anonymous No.15897685]

7 minutes to Soyuz launch with 3 people. Belarusian included

[Anonymous No.15897687]

>>15897685
Ah wait this is progress 25
Not ms-25

[Anonymous No.15897692]

>>15897069
>The only way we get "we don't know" is if there's an electrical short unrelated to the principles of drive operation or the satellite gets smacked by a solar flare.
That's naive. These people have no idea what the expected performance is. There is no solid theory predicting it. The company has no issue with saying "oops, it's actually 1/100th of the reported thrust per Watt". Except they wont phrase it like that, they will say "it totally works".
We saw time and time again for EMdrive experiments that the claimed thrust levels were not consistent between different experiments. Most likely because it was not thrust, but the effect of heating and/or magnetic interactions. And when there was null tests (e.g. Tajmar) people just seamlessly pivot, like McCulloch claiming that experiment wasn't correctly designed.
If you're expecting a company with a vested interest in selling these devices to come clean and admit it was bullshit then you're going to be disappointed. They will likely claim a positive result regardless of the data, what matters is whether raising the orbit can be independently confirmed.

[Anonymous No.15897696]

>>15897692
>The company has no issue with saying "oops, it's actually 1/100th of the reported thrust per Watt". Except they wont phrase it like that, they will say "it totally works".
They've established baseline thrust levels in a vacuum chamber on Earth. Stop being a nigger.

[Anonymous No.15897711]

>>15897696
>We saw time and time again for EMdrive experiments that the claimed thrust levels were not consistent between different experiments. Most likely because it was not thrust, but the effect of heating and/or magnetic interactions.
Lab tests are meaningless if the researcher isn't interested in disproving the hypothesis.
Do you really think they are just going to give up if the thrust doesn't match their tests?

[Anonymous No.15897712]

>>15897711
This is not an emdrive. You're being a contrarian weasel.

[Anonymous No.15897722]

>EMdrive means Elon Musk drive
oh shit

[Anonymous No.15897726]

>>15897712
It's the same bullshit. Only they have rebranded, to try to put some space between them and all the failures. Like how cold fusion became LENR.
Also McCulloch claims EMdrive should work.

[Anonymous No.15897733]

>>15897692
>>15897696
The hardest part isn't producing measurable thrust, but producing measurable thrust that can't be attributed to an uncharacteristic factor such as tape outgassing, thermal effects, or other potential sources of spurious motion. These have plagued all prior EM drive experiments, and as the experiments were engineered to eliminate those noise sources, the observed thrust effects likewise vanished. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, even if it does work, it will be difficult to prove that the thrust effects come from the claimed mechanism of action.

[Anonymous No.15897739]

>>15897025
>"Heh heh y-yeah we're about to test it a-any d-day now!"
It doesn't fucking work, period.

[Anonymous No.15897740]

>>15897733
There are no other thrusters on the satellite. If it moves, it moves.

[Anonymous No.15897750]

>>15897733
Indeed. Also there's the effect of drag, which is not particularly consistent with varying solar activity.
>>15897740
There is the atmosphere. It's orbit will certainly change.

[Anonymous No.15897758]

>>15897740
If it moves, we still must ask why it moved. It's possible to produce motion in a spacecraft with no engineered thrusters just by heating it up enough that components begin to thermally decompose into gasses. The data needs to show that the motion cannot be ascribed to this or other potential mechanisms of action.

[Anonymous No.15897778]

>>15896963
canyonero!

[Anonymous No.15897780]

>https://spacenews.com/intelsat-steps-up-partnership-with-spacex-in-multi-orbit-antenna/
imagine having super starlink

[Anonymous No.15897784]

>>15897349
I'll play probably play it for a bit but I'm half expecting random bugs to ruin things.

[Anonymous No.15897812]

>>15897349
There is a new tech tree, it's over for spaceplanefags since the components are now locked behind the highest tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74qcdSk9V2M

[Anonymous No.15897815]

>>15896963
>>15897778
https://viewsync.net/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA&t=48&v=DsonSEllPmU&t=70

[Anonymous No.15897817]

>>15897512
>american aerospace is mentioned
>random thirdie instantly goes off the rails and starts whining about the weapons board
why do they do this? did /k/ pull some sort of prank on chinks that scarred them forever?

[Anonymous No.15897820]

>>15897543
zach = zachary
black = blackary

[Anonymous No.15897824]

>>15897817
It's the Ukraine war. /k/ has been mocking Russians for years so this whole war has been one giant vindication boner for them. It makes Russian shills seethe which spills out on /pol/ when they accuse everyone laughing at them of being /k/ or "NAFO" (apparently some Twitter thing with shiba inus).

[Anonymous No.15897830]

>>15897824
i just looked up that NAFO thing and it kinda makes me fucking puke what they did to doge.
at the same time this kinda confirms that all the people whining about it are twitter tourists, i literally hadn't heard about it up until this point.

[Anonymous No.15897835]

3 weeks until Vulcan flies

[Anonymous No.15897840]

>>15897835
*RUDs

[Anonymous No.15897841]

>>15897502
It's beyond over

[Anonymous No.15897869]

>>15897502
Looks like some SeX engineers overheared Elon babbling about his vtol electric jet idea

[Anonymous No.15897871]

>>15897840
imagine. I wonder how the likes of ThunderF00t and CSS will mentally cope with Vulcan or Glenn failing on first flight

[Anonymous No.15897877]

>>15897871
hopefully by attending in person and dying in the wreckage

[Anonymous No.15897911]

>>15897696
Lmao

[Anonymous No.15897966]

Our guy Spaceguy5 does not like that jet interceptor suicide drone thing from the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.15897969]

>>15897966
He works at NASA btw, and specifically works on HLS. He hates SpaceX and reusable rockets with a passion.

[Anonymous No.15897974]

>>15897758
Lmao no the fuck it doesn't a 100km orbit change isn't fucking offgassing kys

[Anonymous No.15897984]

50 years after Apollo, America returns to the moon (Jan 2024)
https://phys.org/news/2023-11-years-moon-january.html

[Anonymous No.15898003]

>>15897966
a lot of boomer lingo from somebody who's into sleazy anime figurines, vtubers and gacha games

[Anonymous No.15898005]

>>15897966
Yeah because it basically confirming SpaceX's accomplishment. The guy is a pony fucker and a reddit SLS mod. LMAO

[Anonymous No.15898030]

>>15897966
What a gold mine of an account

Absolute state of old space mindset

[Anonymous No.15898036]

>>15897966
If spaceguy5 is against it then it must be a great idea
I am #teamreuasablemissile

[Anonymous No.15898037]

>>15898030

[Anonymous No.15898038]

Reminder that spaceguy5 is a sperg that works on the HLS side at NASA.
and has leaked classified information multiple times.
He is also friends with bill nelson

[Anonymous No.15898049]

>>15898038
so in other words hes too based?

[Anonymous No.15898055]

>>15898049
>based
He is owned by russians

[Anonymous No.15898060]

https://www.deviantart.com/spaceguy5/gallery

[Anonymous No.15898065]

>arguing on twitter
ishygddt

[Anonymous No.15898068]

>>15898038
>and has leaked classified information multiple times.
Uhhhhh isn't that illegal?

[Anonymous No.15898073]

>>15898038
You should file a complaint against him. I felt sorry for him because his daughter was raped and his step son wants to fuck dogs but I unironically think he is a national security risk and will try to blow up Starship if given the opportunity. At the very least his behavior is extremely unprofessional and it makes NASA look bad.

[Anonymous No.15898075]

>>15898073
>At the very least his behavior is extremely unprofessional and it makes NASA look bad.
Actually grounds for getting fired at NASA btw
I can't report him since i am not american

[Anonymous No.15898084]

>>15898073
>>15898075
trash talk is one thing, trying to get someone fired is another. Let the man be

[Anonymous No.15898088]

>>15898084
He is actively trying to sabotage HLS

[Anonymous No.15898099]

>>15898088
no he isn't, stop deluding yourself

[Anonymous No.15898107]

>>15898099
>no he isn't, stop deluding yourself
He works on HLS safety at nasa and is biased + leaks information
If he wasn't friends with bill nelson he would be in jail right now

[Anonymous No.15898111]

>>15897812
the spaceplane components were mostly at the end of the tech tree in ksp1

[Anonymous No.15898124]

>>15897780
Intelsat steps up partnership with SpaceX in multi-orbit antenna, Intelsat to bring multi-orbit Wi-Fi to regional American Airlines jets
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https://spacenews.com/intelsat-steps-up-partnership-with-spacex-in-multi-orbit-antenna/
> TYSONS, Va. — Intelsat is producing a new flat panel antenna that enables moving vehicles to use broadband services from the company’s geostationary satellites and from SpaceX’s Starlink network in low Earth orbit.
> The phased array electronically steered antenna was installed on the roof of a sports utility vehicle for demonstrations at an Intelsat investor day event Nov. 30.
> Intelsat operates a fleet of 58 geostationary communications satellites “but we are now partnering and offering multi-orbit capabilities to our customers,” said CEO David Wajsgras.
> The company also is working with Eutelsat OneWeb for multi-orbit broadband services aimed at commercial airlines.
----
https://spacenews.com/intelsat-to-bring-multi-orbit-wi-fi-to-regional-american-airlines-jets/
> TAMPA, Fla. — American Airlines announced plans Nov. 30 to equip nearly 500 regional jets with multi-orbit Wi-Fi connectivity from Intelsat over two years starting in early 2024.
> Intelsat is providing terminals that can connect to its geostationary fleet in addition to low Earth orbit (LEO) satellites from Eutelsat OneWeb, which partnered with the operator last year in the aviation market.
> The terminal is based on antenna technology from Ball Aerospace, using integration designs and hardware from Stellar Blu Solutions, and is undergoing tests ahead of deployments.

[Anonymous No.15898127]

>>15897726
cold fusion is real though. Impregnating tungsten with deuterium makes the fusion of said atoms take less energy. there's nothing preventing, say, a palladium cathode with microfractures from being a good enough catalyst to make hydrogen fuse while it's being electrolysed out of water

[Anonymous No.15898129]

>>15897780
Its probably more for redundancy (something happening to starlink to disrupt it) than anything, not sure what the benefits for a commercial user would be as starlink should cover everything by itself

[Anonymous No.15898133]

>>15896184
is this even possible? wouldn't that mean the end of artemis?

[Anonymous No.15898134]

>>15898084
Do you think he is a productive employee operating in good faith while still somehow finding literally hundreds of hours of his time to argue with members of the public and insult them? Of course not. Any way you look at it he is a liability that shouldn't be working for NASA and he should have gotten fired years ago. I imagine he only got hired because he is gay and autistic.

[Anonymous No.15898137]

>>15898134
>I imagine he only got hired because he is gay and autistic.
He is buddies with higher ups in NASA

[Anonymous No.15898145]

>>15898134
are NASA workers productive in general?
he could be on the more productive side

[Anonymous No.15898155]

>>15897543
>not zachger
i am disappoint

[Anonymous No.15898160]

Rocket Report: A mysterious explosion in China; Firefly tests new engine
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/12/rocket-report-a-mysterious-explosion-in-china-firefly-tests-new-engine/

Small Rockets
> Something exploded at a Chinese spaceport.
> The world's spaceports are busier than ever
> New money for rocket propulsion startup Ursa Major
> Firefly's fourth launch scheduled for December.
> Astra stays alive with $2.7 million in fundraising.

Medium Rockets
> Ariane 6 finally has a launch schedule.
> Firefly's Miranda engine ignites for the first time.
> A Chinese company is developing a stainless steel rocket.

Heavy Rockets
> China is making progress on a Raptor-like engine.
> Starship V2 in the works

[Anonymous No.15898166]

>>15898084
>>15898084
he doesn't deserve to get fired by any means and I'm sure he's a unironically a nice guy irl
but he should stop acting like a total sperg
or at least put some degree of separation between his work and spastic internet fits
but enough about Elon

[Anonymous No.15898169]

>>15898075
just tweet Homer Hickam

[Anonymous No.15898172]

>>15898166
>I'm sure he's a unironically a nice guy irl
He is a russian simp and a brony

[Anonymous No.15898174]

>>15898084
Getting someone fired because they're stupid and bad at their job and should be in a different industry isn't immoral

[Anonymous No.15898175]

>>15898111
As long as I have wings, the afterburning turbojet, and terriers I can build an airbreathing reusable SSTO

[Anonymous No.15898176]

>>15898145
What if he is the sole reason SLS is only 4 billion per launch instead of 6 billion, and then Anon gets him fired? When will you freakin' freaks learn that your actions have consequences?
>>15898166
>he doesn't deserve to get fired by any means
lol t. his dead ex wife's son

[Anonymous No.15898178]

>>15898176
But SLS IS 6 billion per launch (far more if you include dev costs)

[Anonymous No.15898181]

>>15898160
>Astra stays alive with $2.7 million in fundraising.
My god, she refuses to die

[Anonymous No.15898194]

>>15898174
trying to get people fired is pretty gay in general
doesn't matter how shit they are at their job or unpleasant
if they are doing something illegal, then sure, but being obnoxious on the internet or having opinons that are different from yours (no matter how retarded you think they are) is not people should get fired over

[Anonymous No.15898199]

NASA administrator Michael D. Griffin argued in a 2007 paper that the Saturn program, if continued, could have provided six crewed launches per year – two of them to the Moon – at the same cost as the Shuttle program, with an additional ability to loft infrastructure for further missions:
>If we had done all this, we would be on Mars today, not writing about it as a subject for "the next 50 years." We would have decades of experience operating long-duration space systems in Earth orbit, and similar decades of experience in exploring and learning to utilize the Moon
Does /sfg/ agree with Dr. Griffin?

[Anonymous No.15898201]

>>15898176
i was defending him you retard

[Anonymous No.15898212]

>>15898194
>>15898201
Hey moron, he is a fucking deranged nutcase working on critical safety systems for HLS and he could very well get people killed. What's next, Common Sense Skeptic gets a job working on Starship and you defend him because of muh cancel culture? Shitty employees deserve to get fired, this goes back millenniums.

[Anonymous No.15898214]

>>15898073
Damn, thats tragic. I didnt know he had this much deeplore. He struck me as the kind of guy to be a lifelong autist incel, not raising someone elses kids

[Anonymous No.15898223]

>>15898199
of course. The primary factor that killed Shuttle was that after Challenger it was banned from flying cryogenic propellant stages in the bay, so there was zero potential to build deep space missions.
Tbh cryo stages in the bay would have been dangerous due to outgassing oxygen and fuel in an enclosed space, and thats a prpblem starship will have to tackle if it is to loft deep space stages to LEO. I expect at least one starship to explode due to its cargo becoming a bomb, but at least it will be unmanned.

[Anonymous No.15898238]

>>15898212
how do you know he is a shitty worker?

[Anonymous No.15898242]

>>15898238
>>15898212
but I mean go ahead and try to get him fired, thats fucking gay but go ahead
start emailing NASA and whatever
lmao

[Anonymous No.15898249]

>>15898238
>>15898242
I dunno, how do I know that you're a faggot white knighting another faggot despite never catching you in the act of you getting fucked by other men?

[Anonymous No.15898251]

>>15898249
how is he gay when he literally has more kids than you will ever have..

[Anonymous No.15898255]

>>15898251
>hurr durrr what is a beard
You have to be over 18 to use this site. Plenty of gay men have fathered children, in this case his ex wife preferred a literal pedophile over him which is very telling.

Now do you want to disclose your ties with him? Assuming you're not him running damage control. No normal person would care this much to jump in front of a bullet and defend an autistic spacex hating brony on lmao 4chan

[Anonymous No.15898259]

>>15898255
nobody cares about your homosexual crush man
this thread is about rockets, not harassing spergs

[Anonymous No.15898261]

>>15898259
Keep projecting, retard, you're the one derailing the thread with your concern trolling and overt fear that someone will report him. No one else cares.

[Anonymous No.15898262]

>>15898255
you really are a dumbass.

[Anonymous No.15898265]

>>15898262
Keep samefagging.

[Anonymous No.15898266]

>spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.15898268]

>>15898266
Do you like my spaceflight related patches?

[Anonymous No.15898270]

>>15898268
very nice

[Anonymous No.15898272]

>>15898270
What if Twilight Sparkle were an astronaut? Personally, I think it’d be the perfect job for her! I mean, she loves math and science, problem solving, astronomy, and most importantly, using checklists and schedules for everything!

The NASA patch is an official NASA flight suit patch.

The nametag is based heavily off of NASA's actual astronaut wings, mixed with the Wonderbolts wings.

[Anonymous No.15898277]

>>15898268
fuck off.

[Anonymous No.15898281]

total brony death

[Anonymous No.15898282]

>>15898277
What the fuck did you just say to me you little bitch? I bet you don't even have a model of the Space Shuttle in your room, you fake ass space fan.

[Anonymous No.15898302]

ESAbros...?!
Ariane 6 launch might be delayed

[Anonymous No.15898304]

>>15898302
French Guiana is east of Suriname.

[Anonymous No.15898305]

I just realized that spaceguy is the same brony that used to get posted here all the time when nasa/SLS was mentioned. I don't think that specific picture has been posted yet. On top of the info on his wife's son and how he refers to his actual daughter (does the man even care?), I almost don't believe he's actually real. I'd guess that it might very slightly increase NASA's efficiency if he was fired.

[Anonymous No.15898306]

>>15898302

[Anonymous No.15898307]

>>15898306
>>15898304
fking latam
confusing shit

[Anonymous No.15898308]

>>15898306
lol

[Anonymous No.15898310]

>>15898307
I looked at the map and wondered what the fuck is Suriname.

[Anonymous No.15898311]

>>15898302
>Ariane 6 delay
it might get delayed another year or two just because

[Anonymous No.15898313]

>>15898304
>>15898307
>>15898310
It's the Mandela effect, bro.

[Anonymous No.15898316]

>>15898282
DAS RITE

[Anonymous No.15898338]

>Artemis 3 landing may be delayed to 2027
https://spacenews.com/gao-report-warns-artemis-3-landing-may-be-delayed-to-2027/

china may literally actually land on the moon before america

[Anonymous No.15898343]

>>15898338
to the surprise of no one

[Anonymous No.15898344]

>>15898338
China is extremely strong

[Anonymous No.15898346]

>>15898194
No one is trying to make this faggot unemployable. He could make a living cooking fast food, do a reasonable job at it and probably even be happier than being in a position he's not suited to.

As a bonus, more productive work would be done overall. There's a benefit to the rest of us when people are not being paid to do something they can't.

[Anonymous No.15898349]

>>15898338
Couldnt give less of a shit. If anything taking on the contract was stupid and takes away from focusing on hyperoptimising for LEO first before actually prepping for interplanetary work when we only have one launch pad so far. Remember, being interplanetary REQUIRES orbital refueling which is only LEO, so no idea why theyre splitting their focus for some oldspace shittery with NASA instead of just increasing LEO capabilities to both deploy more and better Starlink satellites and taking on other commercial missions and working on refueling.

[Anonymous No.15898360]

>>15898346
>>15898346
you got evidence about the sperg being a danger or actually bad at his job? take it to the proper channels or join the other cancel happy twittards
this site is not the place for it

[Anonymous No.15898361]

>>15898349
TRVTHNVKE

[Anonymous No.15898363]

https://twitter.com/NASAArtemis/status/1730617297910255882
>Welcome to the Artemis Accords, Angola
Angolabros... we are going

[Anonymous No.15898364]

>>15898338
Before America does it for the 7th time

[Anonymous No.15898365]

Anyone watching the Space Council press conference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vto6XVzfOH0

[Anonymous No.15898368]

>>15898349
They have done barely anything that they wouldn't have done anyway, so they aren't splitting their focus yet. Taking on the contract was free money that would mostly be stuff that was in their path anyway.

[Anonymous No.15898369]

>We gotta be first back to the moon because it'd make us look bad

[Anonymous No.15898371]

>>15897966
>be tomorrow's laughingstock
Meanwhile in reality:
Oh god here he comes again, fuck.
>Hey guys... yesterday some dude in twitter said...
Blank stares
>In twitter... Y... You know...
Blank stares, one leaves
>i... It was hilarious, he said...
Everyone starts talking about interesting shit.

[Anonymous No.15898373]

>>15898360
You didn't eat enough shit already? lmao

[Anonymous No.15898374]

>>15898199
Yes. Although I would add the caveat that reusable technologies would be 50 years behind, with launch capacity hitting a decades-long plateau that's lower than where SpaceX is now. On a ~100 year timescale I think we'll be better off for having had the Shuttle.

[Anonymous No.15898375]

Blorgin wants uppies

[Anonymous No.15898378]

The specs for the Space FAA are getting hashed out

[Anonymous No.15898382]

>>15898338
Something must have gone wrong or not expected during Artemis I.
Very little data has actually been released (perhaps Orion life support didn't work as intended?)
At this rate I'm doubtful even Artemis II is going to make it.

[Anonymous No.15898385]

>>15898382
The only thing they were concerned about is the higher than expected erosion of the heat shield

[Anonymous No.15898389]

>>15898375
>>15898378
Hopefully this report might signify a major removal of regulatory red tape for spacex in the future.
...
Who am I kidding, that's never going to happen.

[Anonymous No.15898392]

This should make the Earthers happy

[Anonymous No.15898397]

its clear that nasa is holding back on purpose to create the illusion of a space race with china. once china lands on the moon before artemis, nasa will go to congress to beg for more money because "we're losing the space race", and then congress will fatten nasa's contractor's wallets (except spacex) so they can compete with china faster.

[Anonymous No.15898402]

>>15898397
trust the plan

[Anonymous No.15898407]

I can see why NasaWatch was down on this press conference

The odds that they're going to talk about MSR getting canceled is low

[Anonymous No.15898409]

>>15898407
MSR will never not be molten salt reactor for me.

[Anonymous No.15898410]

>>15898373
its at least 3 people telling you to fuck off

[Anonymous No.15898414]

>>15898397
We went from ~20B/y to nearly 30B/y in the last few years

[Anonymous No.15898416]

>>15898414
thats just keeping up with inflation

[Anonymous No.15898417]

>>15898410
Don't lie, faggot. There is only one person sperging out in defense of another faggot and it's you. Why you care this much is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.15898418]

>bio break
Every time MMO gamer lingo enters the mainstream I laugh

[Anonymous No.15898429]

>>15898418
>>>/vg/sfg/
funny that this happens so often.

[Anonymous No.15898431]

>Venezuela wants to annex the other Guyana
We might finally be able to drop the French part of French Guyana

[Anonymous No.15898433]

>>15898416
Something that didn't happen from for the prior couple of decades

[Anonymous No.15898434]

>american troops have arrived to reinforced guyana as venezuela and brazil are massing forces on the border
what happens if alacantra is american clay?

[Anonymous No.15898435]

>>15898418
>>15898429
after looking up this term, I'm not so sure anymore.

[Anonymous No.15898438]

>>15898338
GAO report warns Artemis 3 landing may be delayed to 2027
---
https://spacenews.com/gao-report-warns-artemis-3-landing-may-be-delayed-to-2027/
> WASHINGTON — The first crewed landing of NASA’s Artemis lunar exploration effort is unlikely to happen before 2027, a report by the Government Accountability Office concluded.
> The GAO report, released Nov. 30, found that slow progress on both the Human Landing System (HLS) lunar lander being developed by SpaceX and new lunar spacesuits from Axiom Space would prevent NASA from achieving its currently goal of a late 2025 landing on the Artemis 3 mission.
> Much of the report’s emphasis was on HLS development. SpaceX, the GAO concluded, “is facing multiple issues that limit this progress and jeopardize its ability to support an Artemis III mission in 2025.” Those issues include an “ambitious” schedule, delayed progress on its development to date, and significant technical work.
> The GAO effectively argued that it was unlikely from the beginning of the HLS program that a Starship lunar lander would be ready by late 2025 given the time typically needed to complete any major project at NASA.
> The GAO report also flagged the “incomplete” first integrated test flight of Starship/Super Heavy in April. (The report noted, but did not assess, the second launch on Nov. 18, which fell outside the scope of the study.)
> NASA officials said in August that they received an updated schedule for Starship HLS development from SpaceX but the agency has not disclosed details about that schedule.

[Anonymous No.15898439]

>>15898435
It wasn't a MMO term? That's the only context I've ever heard it in

[Anonymous No.15898440]

>>15898363
lmaooo

[Anonymous No.15898441]

>>15898438
>faa delays project by 2 years for nonsensical regulatory approvals
>SPACEX DELAYING IT!!!

[Anonymous No.15898442]

>>15898365
listening to bureaucrats speak makes me want to kill myself

[Anonymous No.15898454]

>Fix the space debris problem NASA
>No we won't give you any money to do this

[Anonymous No.15898455]

>>15898344
smelling

[Anonymous No.15898459]

Holy shit the twitter streams are so bad.

[Anonymous No.15898464]

>>15898459
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1zqKVqZBjZXxB

2min to liftoff

[Anonymous No.15898465]

>>15898464
Good timing, the Space Council started talking about diversity and my eyes glazed over

[Anonymous No.15898466]

its not that bad

[Anonymous No.15898469]

>>15898223
Seems to me like a trivial problem to overcome. Just install an internal quick-disconnect that vents boil-off gasses into space.

[Anonymous No.15898470]

What is your favorite space station?

[Anonymous No.15898471]

>>15898470
your moms ass

[Anonymous No.15898472]

>>15898470
The Russian one with a cannon on it

[Anonymous No.15898476]

>>15898470
the alien one at L3

[Anonymous No.15898477]

>>15898470
i like the vast one just because of how tiny it is and the big window its basically the size of a dragon capsule which you can see in the back of picrel

[Anonymous No.15898484]

>>15898470
the one that's obviously a huge scam but it'd be hilarious if it turns out to not be a scam

[Anonymous No.15898486]

>>15898466
Gave me vid stutters out the ass until I fed it into a standalone player.

[Anonymous No.15898487]

[Anonymous No.15898488]

>another flawless booster landing
BORING

[Anonymous No.15898489]

>>15898484
orbital reef? iss already scammed its money so it cant be that and gateway is actually innovating so thats not a scam.

[Anonymous No.15898493]

>>15898488
you just have to wonder when shes gonna give out, so battered and bruised but just keeps taking the hits launch after launch

[Anonymous No.15898494]

>>15898470
the ones that will get built in the future if I destroy enough fish and wildlife (drinking sharkfin soup and bird's nest soup right now. I'm not even hungry)

[Anonymous No.15898497]

>>15898464
so what do you think Project 425 is? My guess is an orbital mind control laser. Take over Fearless Leader and gain control of your enemy neighbor from within.

[Anonymous No.15898498]

>>15898472
Mir? Thats the only russian space station I can think of.

[Anonymous No.15898499]

>>15898489
no, Gateway (not lunar gateway)

[Anonymous No.15898500]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfVi53slbvM

[Anonymous No.15898501]

>>15898499
Huh? Arent they the same thing?

[Anonymous No.15898502]

>>15898470
hard to go wrong with ISS. she's a big girl, and a real icon.
>>15898498
salyut 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9...

[Anonymous No.15898503]

>>15898498
Almaz.
"In addition to reconnaissance equipment, Almaz was equipped with a unique 23mm Rikhter (factory index 261P or 225P) rapid-fire cannon mounted on the forward belly of the station. This revolver cannon was modified from the tail-gun of the Tu-22 bomber and was capable of a theoretical rate of fire of 1800-2000 (up to 2600) rounds per minute. Each 168 gram (ammo 23-OFZ-D-R ) or 173 gram (ammo 23-OFZ-G-R) projectile flew at a speed of 850 m/s relative to the station."

[Anonymous No.15898505]

>>15898439
It sounds more like military or corpo speak to me, but then this is the first time I've heard it before so I could be wrong.

[Anonymous No.15898507]

>>15898418
Has poopsocking hit mainstream yet?

[Anonymous No.15898508]

>>15898502
Damn I really need to read into these Russian space stations then didn't realize there was more than Mir.

[Anonymous No.15898509]

>>15898501
Gateway Spaceport is a more traditional kind of scam

[Anonymous No.15898511]

>>15898505
I've never heard it used online, only ever in corporate settings. It's definitely corpo speak—not sure why that anon thinks it's a video game thing.

[Anonymous No.15898512]

>>15898509
Ah now its popping up on google. Give me a second to read mote but this already looks stupid, before 2030 and $500k ticket sounds about right for a scam.

[Anonymous No.15898516]

>>15898484

[Anonymous No.15898518]

>>15898516
Kek

[Anonymous No.15898521]

[Anonymous No.15898522]

>>15898470
Skylab unquestionably. Mir second.

[Anonymous No.15898532]

>>15898518
stupid newfag frogposter

[Anonymous No.15898534]

>>15898532
Seethe nucaca offboarder

[Anonymous No.15898543]

>>15898484
Anon you can't have more than one favorite.

[Anonymous No.15898544]

Australian startup develops dual-headed space camera
---
https://spacenews.com/australian-startup-develops-dual-headed-space-camera/
> SAN FRANCISCO – Australian startup Infinity Avionics is developing a dual-headed camera system for space-based space surveillance.
> With approximately 1 million Australian dollars ($660,000) provided by the Australian research consortium SmartSat CRC, the Australian Capital Territory government and internal research funding, Canberra-based Infinity Avionics is working with the University of New South Wales Canberra Space and Australian startup Nominal Systems to develop technology to autonomously detect space objects.
> “We’re trying to detect pieces of debris which are too small for radars to pick up,” Igor Dimitrijevic, Infinity Avionics founder and CEO, told SpaceNews. “We can also observe other spacecraft that may be out of control or where more information is needed due to an anomaly.”
> When the event camera detects changes or movement, it tasks the coaligned narrow field of view camera to collect imagery.

[Anonymous No.15898546]

NASA researchers get permission to apply for China’s moon samples
---
https://spacenews.com/nasa-researchers-get-permission-to-apply-for-chinas-moon-samples/
> HELSINKI — NASA-funded researchers have been granted permission to apply for access to China’s Chang’e-5 lunar samples in an exception to a prohibition on bilateral activities.
> An internal email sent Nov. 29 informed NASA researchers that they would be able to apply to the China National Space Administration (CNSA) for access to portions of samples collected by China’s Chang’e-5 mission.
> “NASA has certified its intent to Congress to allow NASA-funded researchers to apply to the China National Space Administration for access to lunar samples returned to Earth on the Chang’e-5 mission and made available recently to the international scientific community for research purposes,” the email read.
> The “Wolf Amendment” is a provision in annual NASA appropriations bills which heavily restricts bilateral cooperation with entities of the People’s Republic of China. Any NASA-funded individual or entity seeking to engage in bilateral activity would require a prior written request to, and granted permission from, Congress in advance, along with certification from the FBI that the activities would not pose a national security risk.

[Anonymous No.15898551]

NASA Tests Deep Space Laser Communications
---
https://payloadspace.com/nasa-tests-deep-space-laser-communications/
> Deep space missions communicate with Earth primarily through the Deep Space Network (DSN), a network of antennas in Australia, California, and Spain operated by NASA. This has a few limitations:
> The DSN is running up against capacity limitations, and may not be able to support all the science missions planned for the coming years.
> Radio frequencies are remarkably low compared to laser by a factor of ~100,000, meaning they can’t carry nearly as much information in the same amount of time.
> The demonstration: NASA assigned the DSOC experiment to piggyback on the Psyche mission to see if laser communication may be a good choice to support future missions to Mars. After all, when the agency puts humans on the Red Planet, it’s definitely going to want to stream hi-def video back to Earth.
>On Nov. 14, DSOC locked onto a signal coming from a NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory beam. It then sent a predetermined test message via laser to a receiver in California from more than 10M miles away from Earth, farther than any laser message ever sent. It took ~50 seconds to travel that distance.
> “Optical communication is a boon for scientists and researchers who always want more from their space missions, and will enable human exploration of deep space,” said Jason Mitchell, director of NASA’s Advanced Communications and Navigation Technologies Division, in a blog post. “More data means more discoveries.”

[Anonymous No.15898560]

>>15898508
Holy newfag

[Anonymous No.15898570]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
https://twitter.com/breadfrom/status/1730670308678406468?t=am1mYrHp6GozB8GCRbnhag&s=19

[Anonymous No.15898571]

>Amazon has signed a contract with SpaceX for three Falcon 9 launches to support deployment plans for Project Kuiper, Amazon’s low Earth orbit (LEO) satellite broadband network.

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/innovation-at-amazon/amazon-project-kuiper-spacex-launch

Lol
Lmao

[Anonymous No.15898572]

>>15898570
KEKED

[Anonymous No.15898573]

Bezos bent the knee

[Anonymous No.15898574]

>>15898570
So much for that Vulcan flight, I guess.

[Anonymous No.15898576]

>>15898570
lol maybe they'll actually build some of the constellation now

[Anonymous No.15898577]

>>15898570
omg
Musk probably knew about this when the "go fuck yourself" interview was happening?
because he was pretty positive about BO and Bezos in that interview (not shitting on them when he easily could have)

[Anonymous No.15898581]

>>15898570
Told you

[Anonymous No.15898582]

>>15898570
can't believe some school teachers in kansas forced Bezos to bend the knee to Musk

[Anonymous No.15898583]

>>15898577
I thought this too. bezos has kissed the ring

[Anonymous No.15898585]

>>15898582
Bezos owns majority of voting shares

[Anonymous No.15898589]

>>15898570
>>15898571
audibly keked

[Anonymous No.15898590]

>>15898571
> Project Kuiper has contracted three Falcon 9 launches, and these missions are targeted to lift off beginning in mid-2025.
that seems really, really far away? are Falcon 9 so backlogged or is this about not humiliating the other launches? by that I mean giving them a chance to launch at least ones each before a Falcon 9 launch

[Anonymous No.15898591]

>>15898570

[Anonymous No.15898592]

>>15898570
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.15898594]

>>15898590
Vulcan is launching on December 24th, New Glenn in first half of 2024 and Ariane 6 in first half of 2024 too I think
so all of these should have the ability to have multiple launches before mid 2025

[Anonymous No.15898596]

>>15898570
step by step, ferociously.

[Anonymous No.15898597]

>>15898594
maybe NG is launching in 2024, but I'm not confident they will get to orbit

[Anonymous No.15898608]

>>15898597
Always suborbital with BO

[Anonymous No.15898609]

>>15898590
>Falcon 9 so backlogged or is this about not humiliating the other launches?
Mid 2025 is one year before Amazon's deadline to get half of the constellation in orbit. I'm pretty sure Bezos is coming to reality that unless he gets SpaceX to help, shits not going to happen. Its probably a business decision to get them on the books in case all of the other rockets don't go according to plan (again).

>>15898594
>Vulcan is launching on December 24th
It's going to be delayed by scrubs
>New Glenn in first half of 2024
No its not. Its delusional that NG will launch that soon, and I'm fairly confident in saying it won't successfully reach orbit in 2024
>Ariane 6 in first half of 2024
This is the most reasonable timeline, sadly.

[Anonymous No.15898613]

>>15898570
>>15898571
they had to. investors were suing because they refused to go with the cheapest option (spacex).

[Anonymous No.15898614]

>>15898594
I remember when all of these were launching in 2020

[Anonymous No.15898622]

>>15898338
>>15898438
Clickbait media being shit once again. The 2027 date GAO mentioned is if Artemis III follows NASA's average dev time.

[Anonymous No.15898626]

>>15898609
And NG has to fly in 2024 because of the launch window for ESCAPADE.

[Anonymous No.15898627]

>>15898626
>NG has to fly in 2024
That doesn't mean it will fly. That just means they will miss the window.

[Anonymous No.15898636]

>>15898570
>>15898571
this. >>15898613 three launches is nothing.
they bought these purely to have a better argument in court.

[Anonymous No.15898643]

>>15898609
Even Ariane is officially NET June at this point, so late 2024 or even 2025 feels more right.

[Anonymous No.15898645]

>>15898614
Kek Starship somehow beats them all to the test stand twice over, looking like possibly four times for some of them.

[Anonymous No.15898652]

The FAA 5 launch limit is becoming a problem in 2024 already.
I don't understand why they're not getting the Cape operational ASAP.
There is not even a launch ring on the legs yet.

[Anonymous No.15898655]

>>15898652
They have to add the deluge first.

[Anonymous No.15898671]

>>15898570
>>15898571
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1730680623625392540

[Anonymous No.15898674]

>amazon buying spacex launches for project kuiper

[Anonymous No.15898675]

>>15898671
launching competitors helps elon achieve his mars colonization goal, so he wins no matter what. for every other space company, they lose if they launch competitors because they dont have any goals other than buying more yachts for their ceos.

[Anonymous No.15898679]

>>15898675
Competitors aren't gonna launch anything remotely as massive as Starlink on SpaceX even if they can and it helps keeping any possible antitrust at bay.

[Anonymous No.15898689]

fuck, looks like the musk rocket won't work
another #muskscam

[Anonymous No.15898698]

>>15898689
Been saying it for years

[Anonymous No.15898724]

>>15898679
You seem to have a lot of things confused. It does not generate anti-trust concerns if SpaceX launches competitor products. What would generate antitrust concerns is if SpaceX refused to launch competitor products after dumping their launch service (this only applies to selling the service at a loss; it's not dumping if they're just cheaper than their competitors) to price out the competition in the launch industry.

[Anonymous No.15898750]

>>15898675
he wins by not getting tied up in a big, obnoxious anti-trust lawsuit

[Anonymous No.15898772]

Bezos is playing the long game, you Muskrats just wait.

[Anonymous No.15898774]

>>15898772
yes its certainly been long that is true

[Anonymous No.15898778]

>>15898570
Wow

[Anonymous No.15898786]

>>15898689
https://youtu.be/L6WDq0V5oBg
the musktruck shits on all other trucks though

[Anonymous No.15898793]

>>15898570
Oh my god! I'm Kuuuuuuuuuuuuiping

[Anonymous No.15898797]

>he means (you)

[Anonymous No.15898800]

[Anonymous No.15898806]

>>15898797
I have seen this guys predictions and found them wanting

[Anonymous No.15898814]

>>15898570
delightfully counterintuitive

[Anonymous No.15898821]

>>15898814
In fact it's extremely intuitive. Bezelbosos loses his bandwidth license unless he's put x satellites into by y date.
And who the fuck else is he gonna hire to get them in orbit? Roscosmos?

[Anonymous No.15898827]

>>15898821
You're a retard. Amazon did it because they thought is was the right decision. not because of your qanon conspiracy bs

[Anonymous No.15898830]

>>15898827

[Anonymous No.15898831]

>>15898786
might as well get an "I'M RACIST" bumper sticker

[Anonymous No.15898832]

>>15898827
how is it a conspiracy theory?
these 3 companies have been delayed multiple times launching their rockets and there is a specific deadline for getting rockets into orbit or Amazon loses the FCC license
there is also a lawsuit against amazon which might have been another reason

[Anonymous No.15898836]

>>15898827
Anon, you need either to take your meds, stop shitposting, or simply leave and never come back

[Anonymous No.15898838]

>>15898831
you have to go back

[Anonymous No.15898840]

>>15898838
I'm here to stay. You need the education

[Anonymous No.15898841]

>>15898831
might do both

[Anonymous No.15898845]

>>15898786
>full review
>no offroading
Off topic and garbage. Nice.

[Anonymous No.15898846]

>>15898831

[Anonymous No.15898852]

>>15898845
Not one single person actually uses a pickup to drive off road.

[Anonymous No.15898854]

>>15898845
Why would I want to go offroad? I only drive to work 2 days per week

[Anonymous No.15898867]

The real question is will Rednecks like the Cybertruck?

[Anonymous No.15898868]

>>15898867
It's over $100,000. So yes, those fucks always buy the Platinum and King Ranch luxo-trims.

[Anonymous No.15898869]

>>15898867
is that what we're calling martians now?

[Anonymous No.15898871]

>>15898867
>kills anyone you crash into
I think they will

[Anonymous No.15898872]

>Cybertruck is coming out in 2025 according to Tesla
It's over.

[Anonymous No.15898876]

>>15898867
Can't roll coal with them, so I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.15898878]

>>15898786
>i took it to the track and drove 35 mph
ok

[Anonymous No.15898879]

>>15898827
That's literally in the FCC license retard

[Anonymous No.15898881]

>>15898511
Because anon is a manchild who only interacts with other people in online video games

[Anonymous No.15898896]

Musk will be first up against the wall, and you will be second. Lists are being written.

[Anonymous No.15898898]

>>15898871
I'm just glad we've finally got back to building cars out of something a bit more durable than fiberglass and white guilt

[Anonymous No.15898902]

>>15898896
...santa?

[Anonymous No.15898909]

What's he thinking right now?

[Anonymous No.15898914]

>>15898896
see >>15898836

[Anonymous No.15898915]

>>15898909
that time is running out

[Anonymous No.15898920]

>>15898909
>What's he thinking right now?

[Anonymous No.15898935]

>>15898909
Tory cope, only on X

[Anonymous No.15898940]

>>15898786
>might as well get an "I'M RACIST" bumper sticker
I already want the truck, you don't have to sell it to me.

[Anonymous No.15898946]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1730655367418573270

[Anonymous No.15898948]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1730697891352879430

[Anonymous No.15898949]

>>15898948

[Anonymous No.15898951]

>>15898949

[Anonymous No.15898952]

>>15898570
Why name your mega constellation after a field of space debris?
Might as well call it the Kessler constellation at that point...

[Anonymous No.15898954]

>>15898951

[Anonymous No.15898955]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1730708761751535751

[Anonymous No.15898957]

>>15898955

[Anonymous No.15898959]

>>15898957

[Anonymous No.15898962]

>>15898959

[Anonymous No.15898966]

>>15898955

[Anonymous No.15898968]

>>15898946
Imagine the literal forrest of boosters SpaceX never had to build at this point.

[Anonymous No.15898972]

>>15898570
A bitter pill: Amazon calls on rival SpaceX to launch Internet satellites
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/12/a-bitter-pill-amazon-calls-on-rival-spacex-to-launch-internet-satellites/
> Amazon announced Friday that it has purchased three Falcon 9 rocket launches from SpaceX beginning in mid-2025 to help deploy the retail giant's network of Kuiper Internet satellites.
> In a statement, Amazon said the SpaceX launches will provide "additional capacity" to "supplement existing launch contracts to support Project Kuiper’s satellite deployment schedule." SpaceX has its own broadband satellite fleet, with more than 5,100 Starlink spacecraft currently in orbit, making it a competitor with Amazon.
> In its first-generation architecture, Amazon's Kuiper network will consist of 3,236 satellites flying in low-Earth orbit at an altitude of less than 400 miles, providing broadband service to customers across most of the populated world.
>The company needs to deploy half of these satellites by July 2026, a deadline to maintain network authorization from the Federal Communications Commission. That would require an average pace of at least two launches per month from Amazon's stable of launch service providers beginning next year. Each launch will add several dozen operational Kuiper satellites on a single mission. Exact numbers will depend on the rocket's lift capacity.

[Anonymous No.15898976]

>>15898972
> The Vulcan rocket, contracted for 38 Kuiper launches, is scheduled to launch on its first test flight on December 24 from Cape Canaveral, Florida. Europe's Ariane 6 rocket, which Amazon plans to use 18 times, is scheduled for its inaugural launch in mid-2024. The New Glenn from Blue Origin, owned by Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, might be ready to debut toward the end of 2024. Amazon has booked 12 New Glenn missions, with a contract option for 15 more.
> In fact, the debut of of all three rockets has delayed at least a year since Amazon's big launch purchase in April 2022, putting more pressure on Amazon's Kuiper schedule, Henry said.
> Amazon is helping to fund a big expansion in ULA's footprint at its Florida launch base, an effort that will double the ULA's launch capacity. The investment to fund the growth in ULA's capability to support Kuiper launches totals about $2 billion, with around $500 million going toward upgrades at Cape Canaveral.
>Those upgrades include the outfitting of a second vertical hangar and a second mobile launch platform for Vulcan rockets, alongside the integration facility and launch table already built to support the first few Vulcan missions. Having dual lanes for launch processing in Florida will allow ULA to fly as many as 25 Vulcan rockets per year, the company says.

[Anonymous No.15898979]

>>15898972
Damn, that fairing is looking like the thermal blankets on a Space Shuttle. I wonder how the steel on Starship will look when it's got wearing from reentry cycles.

[Anonymous No.15898980]

>>15898976
Amazon adds Falcon 9 to multi-billion-dollar Project Kuiper launch campaign
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https://spacenews.com/amazon-adds-falcon-9-to-multi-billion-dollar-project-kuiper-launch-campaign/
> TAMPA, Fla. — Amazon has signed a contract with SpaceX to launch an unspecified number of satellites for its Project Kuiper broadband constellation on three Falcon 9 rockets from mid-2025.
> It comes months after a pension fund filed a suit against Amazon’s board of directors, claiming they “acted in bad faith” in approving the bulk of Kuiper launches to unproven rockets being developed by these three companies without considering SpaceX.
> An Amazon spokesperson said the “claims in the lawsuit are completely without merit and had no impact on our procurement plans for Project Kuiper.”
> The company declined to disclose more information about the SpaceX launch contract beyond a brief blog post published Dec. 1.

[Anonymous No.15898983]

>>15898980
Amazon buys SpaceX rocket launches for Kuiper satellite internet project
--
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/01/amazon-buys-spacex-rocket-launches-for-kuiper-satellite-internet-project.html
> he Kuiper prototypes completed testing successfully, Amazon announced last month, with the company pushing to begin manufacturing commercial satellites for launches next year.
>Amazon expects to invest upwards of $10 billion to build Kuiper. Earlier this year the company broke ground on a $120 million pre-launch processing facility in Florida.

[Anonymous No.15898984]

>>15898968
A rocket forest would be really cool when they stop using Falcon

[Anonymous No.15898987]

>>15898979
will be kino to see

[Anonymous No.15898992]

>>15898800
Trvthnvke, nobody cares what literal who #184728362793 on shitter says. Shut the fuck up about those trannies.

[Anonymous No.15898993]

[Anonymous No.15898996]

/sfg/ - Sucking Faggotmuskcock General

[Anonymous No.15898997]

>>15898984
There's only like a dozen active Falcon 9 lol

[Anonymous No.15899009]

>>15898993
had me at the start

[Anonymous No.15899011]

>>15898996
/sfg/ Sneed's Feed & Geed

[Anonymous No.15899017]

>>15898946
hoverslam that ho

[Anonymous No.15899020]

>>15898976
Its kind of a kick in the teeth that jef doesnt get exclusive contracts to launch kuiper. I wonder how he copes?

[Anonymous No.15899022]

>>15898993
is this real?

[Anonymous No.15899026]

>>15898160
>China is making progress on a Raptor-like engine.
China is making progress on stealing Raptor designs and producing them with less reliability. How many Chinese spies do you think SpaceX has with access to detailed designs for the raptor engines or starship as a whole? The US spends so much time and money on stuff only to have it stolen by foreign countries that shamelessly copy it without even trying to hide it.

[Anonymous No.15899027]

>>15898992
>shitter
its X you tranny.

[Anonymous No.15899033]

>>15899026
The penalty for foreign IP theft should be one year of total trade embargo on the offending country per offense.

[Anonymous No.15899037]

>>15899020
had to accept reality at some point, in the end this might be a temporary measure while the other systems get online, relativity, rocket lab and stokes will maybe have something at some point as well

[Anonymous No.15899038]

>>15899022
yes of course

[Anonymous No.15899039]

>>15898772
>Bezos is playing the long game

I think everyone would be fine with Bezos building a cislunar economy, but given BO's track record expectations are low.

[Anonymous No.15899040]

>>15899027
Ill 'deadname' Twitter however much I want faggot. I hate 720p SpaceX streams, I hate the political faggots and trannies on twitter, renaming it to X wont make me forget all that, ESPECIALLY THE 720P STREAMS YOU CANT EVER CONVINCE ME THE SWITCH WAS A GOOD THING GO FUCK YOURSELF

[Anonymous No.15899041]

>>15899040
the switch was good because it helps X

[Anonymous No.15899042]

>>15899037
All memelaunchers who cant do leo at volume for a good price. Jef has really catastrophically failed. The fact that NG isnt online yet is crazy. If they miss the Mars transfer window with those cubesats they are meant to carry next year it's time to call it quits

[Anonymous No.15899043]

>>15898909
SpaceX has launched as many rockets in the last two years as ULA has in their entire existance.

[Anonymous No.15899048]

>>15899022
cgi/greenscreen composite

[Anonymous No.15899053]

SpaceX Aims to Test Cellular Starlink System With 840 Satellites
---
https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacex-aims-to-test-cellular-starlink-system-with-840-satellites
>The company filed the application for the experimental license this week as the FCC continues to mull whether to give SpaceX full authorization to operate the satellite-to-cellular communication service amid concerns about interference.
>According to the filing, SpaceX is requesting “special temporary authority” to conduct the test starting on Dec. 10 through a period lasting 180 days. The goal is to test out the system in partnership with T-Mobile using the carrier’s licensed radio spectrum to beam the satellite connectivity to 2,000 test devices.
> "Over the 180-day experimental STA period, SpaceX expects to operate approximately 840 satellites with direct-to-cellular payloads," the company wrote, suggesting it's quickly building up the capacity to launch the cellular Starlink system.
> “At any given time, approximately 60 of these 840 (satellite) payloads will be serving handsets in the United States under this experimental authorization,” the application adds. SpaceX will beam the satellite connectivity to 13 areas across the US, including Mountain View, California; Kansas City, Kansas; and Houston, Texas.

[Anonymous No.15899056]

>>15899026
Industrial espionage is based, especially when the target country is absolutely retarded and lets your ethnic spies in because "diversity"

[Anonymous No.15899057]

>>15899042
they have been at it like 23 years, missing yet another deadline won't change anything

[Anonymous No.15899061]

>>15898972
actually pretty good for a Clark article

[Anonymous No.15899078]

>>15899048
assertion without evidence

[Anonymous No.15899093]

>>15898972
The thing that really gets me is that these Falcon/Kuiper launches aren't coming until mid-2025. Ariane 6 isn't ready yet. New Glenn isn't ready yet. Vulcan isn't quite ready yet. Falcon 9 is ready right fucking now, but Amazon isn't ready. They're not even going to have batches of their payload ready for another eighteen months at least. The rockets might not actually be the thing holding Kupier back at this point.

[Anonymous No.15899098]

>>15897368
>>Mars has to be the ultimate reddit soiboy bait. The whole point of the machine is cheap access of large tonnage to leo.
BRILLIANT

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[Anonymous No.15899100]

This can't be... Falcon 9 is too small for Kuiper... it needs a real rocket like New Glenn or Ariane 6

[Anonymous No.15899101]

>>15899093
yeah, are they even able to manufacture 1800 satellites by the deadline?
in any case, the more they launch these before the deadline expires, the better the chance they get to have some special extension to it I bet
like if they only had these 2 prototypes up and the deadline comes along, it would be much more difficult to convince the FCC to give them an extension or whatever
but what if they have like 500 (out of 1600 required) and the system is somewhat functional, then the FCC cancelling their license would seem kind of rash perhaps

[Anonymous No.15899106]

December already, lads?

[Anonymous No.15899107]

>>15898199
Griffin is based, so yes.

[Anonymous No.15899111]

why is musk making such a face?

[Anonymous No.15899112]

>>15899042
If they miss the launch window, that's a 24 month delay, and the reputation damage that will happen from delivering on NASA's launch for a science mission because your booster hardware hasn't left the ground yet, after NASA threw you a bone, would be catastrophic. Jeff has big pockets, but nobody will take his company ever seriously again if he fucks that up.

[Anonymous No.15899120]

>>15899101
They had a great opportunity to blame their delays on almost all of the western launch providers transitioning awkwardly to new rockets the same time. Now they've got eight Atlas Vs slitting in a warehouse and three launches on Falcon that start twelve months before the FCC deadline, and this is all coming after SpaceX tries to push Falcon for a 150 launch year in 2024. They're still not going to get canceled, but they really should be and I don't know what kind of groveling they're going to have to do to pull it off.

[Anonymous No.15899124]

>>15899111
ants in his pants.

[Anonymous No.15899125]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1730761313691828697

[Anonymous No.15899126]

>>15898993
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1730765873693012169

[Anonymous No.15899128]

>>15899126
haha, I love Elons deluded optimism. it's funny but also inspiring.

[Anonymous No.15899130]

>>15899126
Multiply by 4 so thats 2028 they have a functioning robot soldier

[Anonymous No.15899131]

/sfg/ - Stupid Faggot General

[Anonymous No.15899137]

>>15899130
shit, Elon said 4 years until first uncrewed Starship misison to Mars. Do we really have to wait 16 years? He's cutting it awfully close. It's really a flip of a coin at this point what will happen first, boots on Mars or his death. Maybe colonisation was always just a dream because without him it won't happen.

[Anonymous No.15899140]

>>15899128
>>15899126
>>15899130
https://youtu.be/NjIPEtegPt4

Full video of that source here. It's very enlightening, as this guy got unfettered access to all the engineers, Franz, Lars, and others within Tesla to ask EVERYTHING he could about the truck. There's a ton of really juicy bits in here that the review he did for Icons, did not cover. The Cybertruck is quite literally what Starship is to the aerospace industry. It's a complete and total fuck you to how everything has ever been done over the last 70 years of car making.

[Anonymous No.15899141]

>>15899140
Shut the fuck up this is not spaceflight go back to /o/ or /g/

[Anonymous No.15899142]

>>15899141
>>15899140
No faggot, CT and SpaceX Starship shares the same material science team. It's aerospace.

[Anonymous No.15899149]

>>15899140
>The Cybertruck is quite literally what Starship is to the aerospace industry.
Stop being retarded, it's just a shitty truck.

[Anonymous No.15899150]

>>15899142
sad how they had to make a new stainless steel alloy instead of the same steel from Starship as was originally proposed

[Anonymous No.15899151]

>>15898073
He's a deadbeat that left his daughter to be raped, and even when the girls mother killed herself and after he found out about the molestation he couldn't be bothered to move back to Texas to be there for his child. He let Mommy take care of it for him What a fucking loser.

[Anonymous No.15899152]

>>15899142
Then talk about the materials midwit anything else is offtopic.

[Anonymous No.15899153]

Am I the only one who noticed that when they redid the steel ball thrown at glass thing during the cybertruck release they used a fucking baseball instead!? I don't know how he got away with that one. CSS will have a field day.

[Anonymous No.15899156]

>>15899151
Literal reddit namefag drama for shit nobody cares about, not spaceflight go back

[Anonymous No.15899157]

>>15899150
Well the reason that Lars stated in the Top Gear video was that unlike Starship, which can handle corrosion as a result of the welding that gets done to it and it not be imapcted because it has a lot of structural elements like the stringers and internal baffles to add rigidity, in the case of the truck or vehicles in general, there's regulations around corrosion that need to be adhered to. Part of the reason why cars get painted is to create a corrosion barrier. It's why abandoned vehicles over decades turn into rusted wrecks. Because the paint peels away, exposing the under surface, which causes oxidation of the iron and it all cascades into failure.

The fascinating thing about the cybetruck is that as they ramp this to volume production, they will need to at volume produce the corrosion resistant stainless steel alloy to support their builds. This likely means that they'll become their own 30X Stainlless Steel producer as well. If this does end up being the case, its not out of the realm of possibility that SpaceX wouldn't start contracting Tesla for additional tonnage deliverables, and that Starship in 10 years, starts getting made out of the same material.

The outcome of which, all the orange splotches and lines we see on the ship today, go away, and that original mirror finish of the vessel design that was shown off in 2019, returns to form.

[Anonymous No.15899158]

>>15898038
>>15898049
>>15898068
>>15898073
>>15898075
>>15898084
>>15898088
Kys redditcels I'm too lazy to mass reply to everyone that replied

[Anonymous No.15899160]

>>15899157
ChatGPT reply btw

[Anonymous No.15899163]

>>15899157
I thought stainless doesn't rust?

[Anonymous No.15899164]

>>15899153
I think it was a joke that didn't land

[Anonymous No.15899169]

>>15899040

[Anonymous No.15899170]

>>15899156
Damn buddy he's not gonna give you discord mod privileges for riding his cripple cock.

[Anonymous No.15899172]

>>15899163
Yes, but when you weld two pieces of steel together, you introduce impurities. There's a lot of shit on the Starship that's not purely aerospace grade steel. On top of that, its being blasted by salt water moisture 24/7. Salt is literally the worst enemy of metal bar none. All the weld points that don't use laser welding probably use something that does introduce impurities, which is why we see some corrosion on the ship/booster here and there. But this alloy is brand new, and its probably not aerospace grade, but its definitely up there. I'm just saying that it's not out of the realm of possibility for SpaceX to take that alloy and start working with its SS suppliers to make aerospace grade variants of it and introducing it into their build process. Especially once the Starfactory enters volume production for rings, nosecones, and stacked sections; since SpaceX and Tesla share the same material science team.

[Anonymous No.15899173]

>>15899164
yeah it REALLY didn't land lol. Makes me wonder if the glass is still the same strength as it was in the prototype.

[Anonymous No.15899174]

>>15899140
>he pronounced the hyphen in his name
this nigger is l-a (the dash don't be silent)

[Anonymous No.15899178]

>>15899163
but it do

[Anonymous No.15899179]

>>15899173
probably, but its not bulletproof, just shatter resistant to a degree

[Anonymous No.15899180]

>>15899170
He should kill himself too if hes a cripple and a redditor. I have no clue who this jew is and I dont care to find out, stop posting about him and whatever drama surrounds him I dont care.

[Anonymous No.15899187]

>>15899172
yeah one reason I think Musk insisted to go with steel is so a later rover variant might be made with steel, which should be easier to do for the mars colony eventually
if starship and cybertruck use mostly similar steel then they will both benefit from economies of scale, but I guess the use cases are so different its not actually the same steel anymore

[Anonymous No.15899192]

>>15899187
>later rover variant
you actually believe that?

[Anonymous No.15899193]

>>15899187
I can definitely see the interior bulkhead of the ship once the floors are added for the crew compartments and the doors that are used for the airlocks, to be made from this material. In the video he talks about how for the crash test, they did a 1400kg sled going 54.5kph side door impact and there's obvious inertial transfer deformation that occurs as a result, but the entire vehicle is so rigid and the level of damage was so little compared to other vehicles, that replacing the doors, windows, and internal safety systems and the vehicle is back on the road. Given that the internal bulkheads for the crew section has to essentially support 50T of crew and dry/wet mass cargo plus 100T of dry mass cargo in an unpressurized section, on top of everything else. I can see that being the case. Whatever variant of that may be good enough for most of the ship, but sections of the ship that need to deal with human occupants at scale, I can see a lot of tech that's going into the CT with the glass material and steel body making its way over in some way or form.

Technically, there's no need to do this as independent systems. But just like how CT is reengineered twice, being that SpaceX is a purer Elon company than Tesla, I could see them doing it anyway just to create a tick/tock process where SpaceX creates it, Tesla refines it; SpaceX uses the refined process and materials in order to evolve them, and the end product of that goes to Tesla for volume production. All creating a positive feedback loop. At some point, once SpaceX starts launching crew and cargo to the Moon and Mars, they'll need to send vehicles and rovers there in order to support the gross tonnage deployments they're intending for colonization and construction. So your point of vehicles is highly probable.

[Anonymous No.15899195]

>>15899192
itt anon first finds out that musk fans are deluded.

[Anonymous No.15899197]

>>15899169
im trans btw but it shouldnt matter if im just posting an image

[Anonymous No.15899198]

>>15899197
you forgot the image

[Anonymous No.15899201]

>>15899195
NTA, but the amount of retards infesting this general lately is making it unusable. Its always worse after a succesful launch, like I get it I want Starship to succeed SO BADLY as well but holy shit fuck off and leave us regulars alone.

[Anonymous No.15899203]

>>15899198
xister, its in my post that i replied to there.

[Anonymous No.15899204]

>>15899195
I'm "brilliant pebbles schizo" so from my perspective almost everybody in these threads is deluded for thinking SpaceX's real mission is actually going to Mars. Nevertheless I'm surprised that somebody actually believes a vehicle designed for earth consumers would be the basis for a rover design. They're two completely different jobs, if it's designed for one it cannot possibly be optimal for the other.

[Anonymous No.15899207]

>>15899204
Forcing me to agree with this doomer... christ I hate newfags so much.

[Anonymous No.15899208]

>>15899197
>trans

[Anonymous No.15899210]

>>15899207
I'm no doomer, SpaceX will succeed (in building a massive SDI constellation for the defense of America, thereby averting WW3.)

[Anonymous No.15899211]

>>15899204
what is brilliant pebbles supposed to mean?

[Anonymous No.15899212]

>>15899211
Brilliant Pebbles was an SDI plan to put tens of thousands of missile interceptors into low earth orbit. When this was first proposed it was completely ludicrous because nobody could launch that many satellites. But SpaceX has been developing precisely this capability.

[Anonymous No.15899213]

>>15899211
Newfag

[Anonymous No.15899224]

[Anonymous No.15899225]

>>15899111
link/source?

[Anonymous No.15899237]

>>15899212
So you think SpaceX can do this, but it can't send people to Mars?

[Anonymous No.15899241]

>>15899192
I mean not literally a variant of the cybertruck, but a rover constructed out of steel, getting manufacturing knowledge in that is useful
shouldn't steel be easier to make compared it aluminum for instance?
probably easier to fix too
the initial manufacturing done on the mars colony needs to be pretty simple and robust
musk tends to synergize the companies a lot, an example is literally the materials tech team that is shared with spacex and tesla

>>15899193
> Whatever variant of that may be good enough for most of the ship, but sections of the ship that need to deal with human occupants at scale, I can see a lot of tech that's going into the CT with the glass material and steel body making its way over in some way or form.
well getting mass manufacturing knowledge with bending the steel is going to help in any case
I think the current Starship prototypes are using just run of the mill model 3 motors and batteries? those will probably get specialized (musk said that the battery needs to be power optimized instead of energy optimized for instance), but yeah a lot of cross pollination is going on
other synergies related to spacex are the mars colony and boring machines

another example of cross pollination in musk companies is with X, xAI and Tesla
Tesla is making an in house neural network training supercomputer (dojo) which might be rented out to xAI in exchange for equity + getting access to Grok (and other AI) for voice control of tesla cars and the optimus robot
xAI will get data from X to train its models and xAI will give X access to Grok so more people pay for X premium

[Anonymous No.15899245]

>>15899225
https://twitter.com/live_munro/status/1730750562394624494
probably an interview about the cybertruck (and stuff in general)
Munro had an discussion with Musk a while ago, it was pretty good as they went into a lot of engineering stuff, don't remember if they talked about SpaceX engineering much though

[Anonymous No.15899248]

>>15899111
>that posture

[Anonymous No.15899263]

>>15899248
Aryan on the left

[Anonymous No.15899293]

>>15899237
I didn't say they couldn't send people to Mars. Rather, that what they're actually doing is developing the equipment and expertise to launch massive LEO constellations so that they can fulfill insanely lucrative SDI contracts and thereby save humanity from WW3.

[Anonymous No.15899305]

>>15899033
The penalty for foreign IP theft should be immediate execution of all nationals of the offending nation within the country.

[Anonymous No.15899312]

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1730610105245470749

[Anonymous No.15899316]

>>15899241
>I think the current Starship prototypes are using just run of the mill model 3 motors and batteries?
Yes, Tesla is moving to non-rare earth magnet motors from permanent magnet motors. This does degrade power a bit, but for something like actuating the grid fins on the SuperHeavy or the aelerons on the ship, that's still good enough--because those motors can easily hit 20k RPM and put out insane amounts of torque at the drop of a pin. That alone massively drops cost for when they drop those into the ship. The other thing to note is that each grid fin weighs 3T (6,600lbs). The cybertruck without any cargo is 6700lbs. It's purely coincidental that the weight of the grid fin and the weight of the truck is a 100lbs off, but it works immensely in their favor that they can just take the same motor that's going to power their base vehicle and use that for each of the 4 booster grid fins and call it a day.

[Anonymous No.15899325]

>>15899312
woowee that storage facility is packed to the brim. really filling up in there

[Anonymous No.15899327]

>>15899312
isn't that incredibly dangerous? why not spread them as far apart as possible?

[Anonymous No.15899341]

>>15899312
>solids stacked like firewood
wtf it's a disaster waiting to happen

[Anonymous No.15899352]

>>15899312
these new gem XLs were originally meant for OmegA right?

[Anonymous No.15899354]

[Anonymous No.15899359]

>>15898570
>>15898571
>Make something so good that your competitors get sued if they don't use it.

[Anonymous No.15899375]

>>15899352
OmegA's boosters were a parallel variation. The 63XLTs needed to have thrust vectoring so they could steer the rocket, which was never needed for Vulcan.

[Anonymous No.15899407]

>>15899375
Oh yup I completely forgot about the thrust vectoring capabilities

[Anonymous No.15899417]

>>15899140
anon you're absolutely right, don't let the other replies get you down

[Anonymous No.15899433]

>>15899417
No, no he's not. Cybertruck is not the Starship of the truck world.

[Anonymous No.15899438]

>>15899140
>The Cybertruck is quite literally what Starship is to the aerospace industry
QRD

[Anonymous No.15899451]

>>15898622
are you trying to imply artemis iii WON'T follow the 'typical NASA delays' pattern and end up NET 2027? retard.

[Anonymous No.15899457]

>>15898996
you're a seething cuck

[Anonymous No.15899464]

>>15898590
wouldn't surprise me if the kuiper satellite factory is so slow that they can't even manufacture enough to fill 3 falcon 9's until 2025, and the kuiper team already had rumors/foreknowledge/industry insider info that ariane, vulcan, and glenn would all be delayed so much that the low sat production rate didn't matter - until falcon was picked

[Anonymous No.15899470]

>>15899457
See >>15899011 manlet

[Anonymous No.15899471]

>>15899457
See >>15899011 bawling manlet

[Anonymous No.15899474]

>>15899471
seethe

[Anonymous No.15899483]

Are any of you MIGAtards in here?

[Anonymous No.15899525]

>>15899483
go back to discord

[Anonymous No.15899526]

>>15899525
Thanks for the (You) retard

[Anonymous No.15899527]

Yuropcord woke up

[Anonymous No.15899531]

>Raptor is now reliable
>Cybertruck is now real
>Amazon is now buying SpaceX launches
Everything's coming up Musky

[Anonymous No.15899534]

>>15899531
Agreed but stop posting this awful image

[Anonymous No.15899536]

>>15899534
Why? I feed off cringe

[Anonymous No.15899558]

>>15899536
Ah. Then keep doing it, I thought you were serious this whole time.

[Anonymous No.15899622]

>>15898570
Thats because shareholders sued the board for not concidering SpaceX, which would have saved them billions

[Anonymous No.15899625]

>>15899534
Why do you hate the face of God Emperor?

[Anonymous No.15899629]

>>15899536
based hell demon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7CCb7Lkv00

[Anonymous No.15899631]

>>15899534
>>15899625
elon musk is probably some kind of angel of God, if not God himself. Some think he is an alien. Too many coincidences

[Anonymous No.15899637]

I'm not falling for this bait anymore.

[Anonymous No.15899639]

>>15899637
how boring

[Anonymous No.15899645]

>>15899639
Blame whoever >>15899536 this was for exposing it as bait.

[Anonymous No.15899656]

>>15899140
Quite an amazing amount of details

[Anonymous No.15899703]

Can someone explain to me why going to the moon is important?
Surely it's just prestige, right?
There's nothing there.

[Anonymous No.15899706]

>>15899703
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh helium 3?

[Anonymous No.15899708]

>>15899706
>he doesn't know about the monolith

[Anonymous No.15899711]

>>15899703
For the gov? Its prestige/geopolitical implications.

For SpaceX? Just getting paid to build something that they're going to do anyway. Its just a small stop until their Mars.

[Anonymous No.15899716]

>>15899703
Practice for Mars and outer solar system exploration.

[Anonymous No.15899717]

>>15899703
Essentially unlimited industrial capacity with (probably) no ecosystem to fuck up

[Anonymous No.15899743]

starship v2

[Anonymous No.15899768]

>>15899743
NO NO WE'RE NOT DOING THAT!

[Anonymous No.15899771]

>>15899743
wings are sins

[Anonymous No.15899778]

>yeah, we've decided that sidemounting starship on superheavy is the most efficient way forward.

[Anonymous No.15899801]

STAGE!

[Anonymous No.15899810]

>>15899534
Elon Musk is set to be the most important human to ever live if he is able to begin the colonisation of Mars. A new age religion will appear around Mars colonization ( it already has to some extent) and Musk will be deified, and his deeds will become more pectacular as they are echoed down the generations.

[Anonymous No.15899814]

>>15899778
Imagine the copium. All of a sudden muskrsts would do a 180 on side mounting just like the did on heat shield tiles

[Anonymous No.15899836]

>>15899703
Low lunar gravity opens up a shitton of stuff on humanity skill tree from building giant telescopes that can directly observe other planets and most likely detect some lifeforms/launching deep space mission in our own solar system with the same purpose to building giant solar arrays, space elevators and o'neill cylinders with already available materials.

[Anonymous No.15899841]

>>15899819
>>15899819

Link to the new thread. DAMMIT!

[Anonymous No.15899873]

>>15899841
>no title
try again

[Anonymous No.15899900]

>>15898306
UH OH STINKY...

[Anonymous No.15899919]

>>15899703
There's plutonium there

[Anonymous No.15899922]

>>15899841
Abort

[Anonymous No.15899954]

REAL STAGING
>>15899953
>>15899953
>>15899953

[Anonymous No.15899970]

>>15899954
stupid fucking cunt

[Anonymous No.15899972]

>15899814
low quality bait

[Anonymous No.15899974]

>>15898282
why would i need a shuttle in my room like a manchild.
come back with a working replica of the apollo guidance computer.

[Anonymous No.15899978]

Can someone make anon retarded thread? Its not that difficult
1) take a relevant space pic from this thread and use as op pic
2) use the pics theme as edition name
3) follow title convention exactly
4) add link to previous thread in the OP, not later reply
5) link new thread in this one

[Anonymous No.15899982]

It's not that easy in rocketry

[Anonymous No.15899983]

ACTUAL STAGING
>>15899929
>>15899929
>>15899929

[Anonymous No.15899993]

>>15899983
he's doing it intentionally, probably krystalfag again

[Anonymous No.15899995]

>>15899954
>>15899841
>>15899983
this is all krystalfag btw, he's still mad that he was bullied around the time IFT-2 launched.
we haven't seen him posting his gay ass furfaggotry and now he's doing this, probably out of spite because he's not welcome for being a freak.

[Anonymous No.15899996]

>>15899993
Yeah, isnt this like the third or fourth time

[Anonymous No.15899998]

>>15899983
Low energy orbit but it flies

MOVE

MOVE

[Anonymous No.15900000]

>>15899996
just wait, if you try to make a thread with a proper OP now he's going to come in and accuse you of being him, he did this two times previously when i fixed his mess.

[Anonymous No.15900001]

>>15900000
>>15899996
I made the most recent thread and im not krystalfag. wtf is wrong with the thread?

[Anonymous No.15900002]

>>15900001
i know this thread wasnt made by krystalfag
but whoever's splitting the thread right now as we stage is MOST DEFINETLY him.
he intentionally stages with an improperly formatted OP multiple times.

[Anonymous No.15900003]

>>15900001
Title is wrong, no link to this thread in OP

[Anonymous No.15900011]

Staging

>>15900010
>>15900010
>>15900010

[Anonymous No.15900015]

>>15900003
Bake purists are cancer. Go on discord already

[Anonymous No.15900027]

>>15900011
this is the only good bread. all the other should be deleted