How Advanced Was Ancient Science & Math?

[Anonymous No.15895465]

[Anonymous No.15895480]

>>15895465
the ancient were autistic about rationals. Not just the Greeks.
Babylonians knew how to solve quadratic equations

[Anonymous No.15895487]

>>15895465
More advanced than it is today, back in those days science and math were put to useful, valuable purposes such as predicting the flood cycles on the Nile. These days science and math are only used to wastefully publish junk that nobody reads in the academic press or to circulate harmful lies

[Anonymous No.15895549]

>>15895465
There's a Burger King at the exact same latitude. Check the last thread with this picture on warosu to find it.

[Anonymous No.15895555]

>>15895487
Right, today we're totally surprised about flooding rivers. There's literally no way to tell when or it a river will flood. Weirs and floodgates are operated by gut feeling and reservoirs are filled and drained according to the local official's mood.

[Anonymous No.15895623]

>>15895465
A lot more advanced than you might have assumed. Ancient mathemeticians made pretty great progress at geometry. Much of the early mathematics were developed due to practical needs, and as such it appears the ancients had a pragmatic approach towards math. For example, in ancient Egypt, geometric problem solving became important due to the need to measure land to resolve disputes after the yearly flooding destroyed land markers. Ropes were used to survey and calculate area.

That being said, even back then they had a distinction between "pure" and "applied" mathematics. The priestly class had deep interest in tracking the objects in the sky which led to different sort of developments.

Perhaps the biggest distinction between modern and ancient mathematics is the idea of numbers, equations, and mathematical objects as abstract entities, seperate from the physical manifestations which they model. For example, Greeks had an idea more accurately described as "magnitude" than "number". They didn't necessarily see "16" as having any meaning besides the geometric length of 16 units.

The Egyptians seemed to have a strange relationship with Rational numbers. They had a fascination with 2/3 and saw a ratio as completed when expressed as such. For example, in the Ahmes Papyrus, instead of 9/10, this quantity was expressed as 1/30 + 1/5 + 2/3. In other words, they saw a ratio as complete if it had 1 in the numberator OR if it was 2/3.

Ancient Egyptians had "solve for x" algebraic problems or what they called "heap" problems which involved solving for an unknown quantity.

Another huge development from Ancient India which was the decimal system, and 0. We take it for granted nowadays, but it really was revolutionary, almost as important as the development of analytic geometry imo. This positional system is so superior we still use it.

There's a clay tablet that has been suggested to be evidence of Ancient Babylonian mathemeticians using calculus(1/2)

[Anonymous No.15895630]

>>15895623
(2/2)

Ancient greeks had used the method of exhaustion which is basically equivalent to taking limit as n approaches infinity. Archimedes in 3rd century BC wrote The Sand Recokner in which he estimated the size of the universe and worked with extremely large numbers.

Pic related is my recommendation if you want to learn more about ancient mathematics.

[Anonymous No.15896460]

>>15895465
Meters were arbitrarily defined

[Anonymous No.15897010]

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[Anonymous No.15897016]

>>15895465
stop it with this nonsense and watch a few videos from this channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lbuQuLHScY
they're quite nice and informative.

[Anonymous No.15897325]

A hammer that refuses to rust with a fossilized handle

[Anonymous No.15897329]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_mh3xQnMWQ

[Anonymous No.15898315]

Ancient math bump

[Anonymous No.15898318]

it wasn't advanced, there were no advanced civilizations until ~50 years ago

[Anonymous No.15898330]

>>15895465
too bad meters per second and global coordinates starting at Greenwich were invented some time after pyramids

[Anonymous No.15898337]

>>15897325
>another "Christian doesn't know the difference between fossilization and concretion" episode
>clear separation between the hammer and the shit, unheard of in both fossilization and concretion
>crack on the side making it obvious the shit was broken to shove the hammer in there
lol alternative "archeology" is so fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.15898387]

>>15898330
the pyramid architects were able to see this and transcend time to order the construction of giza at the precise coordinates that would hint at their superiority far in the future

[Anonymous No.15898656]

[Anonymous No.15898661]

>>15898330
>coordinates starting at Greenwich
Atitude is measured form the eauater ya goof

[Anonymous No.15898662]

>>15898661
>eauater
*Equator

[Anonymous No.15898664]

>>15895465
https://fullfact.org/online/great-pyramid-speed-of-light/

[Anonymous No.15898667]

>>15895465
Also, if you want to go down a deep rabbit hole on this, watch the video my Carl Munck

https://www.daily-lazy.com/2012/03/carl-munck-code.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9lTB0hTNU&t=2s

[Anonymous No.15898669]

>>15898664
>Snopes looked into this
Are you desperate to believe it's a coincidence?

[Anonymous No.15899337]

I have figured out why they found no remains buried in the pyramid of khufu. The king to be buried there did not yet die.

[Anonymous No.15899642]

It's fascinating to think about how all the knowledge has always been there and it's just a matter of finding it. Nothing was physically preventing ancient mathematicians from coming up with boolean algebra and implementing logic gates using water or something similar and creating primitive computers.

[Anonymous No.15899679]

>>15899642
And they did, or at least mechanical calculators. We have records of mechanical calculators as early as 1st century BC.

[Barkun No.15899695]

They used a trick, a creative effigy, to build the upper and lower foundations of the pyramid

[Barkun No.15899704]

>>15899695
I.e. there's some value to a very creative tool that is really a modification or combo of a few tools(stairs on stairs with ledge connectors)

[Barkun No.15899713]

There's evidence of a 'breaking of the nose' or breaking of the corners, at the pinnacle and lower corners. Suggesting that they used some sort of leverage with a special tool. It's a very puzzling architecture because the means we're highly creative. There is no simple logic to it.

[Anonymous No.15899720]

>>15895465
Approximately super saiyan 2 tier advanced. We're currently at super saiyan blue science and math.

[Barkun No.15899726]

>>15899720
You can sense their excitement?

(FOUND YOU)

[Anonymous No.15899728]

>>15899695
>>15899704
>>15899726
Is this a bot?

[Barkun No.15899732]

>>15899728

[Barkun No.15899738]

>>15899728
U mad.

[Anonymous No.15900148]

>>15895465
>an arbitrary defined meter with an arbitrary defined coordinate system using arbitrary base system with an arbitrary defined degree coincides one constant with one landmark
Whoah, bro…

[Anonymous No.15900451]

>>15898330
>hasn't watched The Code by Carl Munck

[Anonymous No.15900527]

>>15895465
GPS does not have that level of precision.

[Anonymous No.15900530]

>>15895465
Funny how we invented the length of the second after the pyramids, 10 base numerical system and north pole .

[Anonymous No.15900740]

stop listening to grifters, don't buy any of their book, don't give them any of your views. if you do you are contributing to the bullshit and smokescreens that plagued humanity since forever.
not only is it a major grift, it's supported by the authorities. they refuse to carbon date some of that shit so they can play into the grift that they are WAY older than they are.
sure, the moron will publicly say anyone thinking is a moron, but he will block any attempt to make it clear they're not as special, because that lowers the turism and all the speculation around the subject.
it is always the same, corrupt humans hiding the truth to play into grifting. that will never change with the current format of humans.

[Anonymous No.15901152]

>>15899679
that's not the calculator you think it is retard.

[Anonymous No.15901154]

>>15900740
>they refuse to carbon date some of that shit so they can play into the grift that they are WAY older than they are.
This is some serious mental gymnastics.

[Anonymous No.15901201]

>>15900148
>let me dismiss a mind blowing implication by suggesting an equally mind blowing alternative explanation but then not addressing how mind blowing that one is
anon, this could not be brushed off as a coincidence so casually
my money is that the image is just fudging numbers somewhere, because if its true then it goes in the file of 'what the fuck is really going on?!'

[Anonymous No.15901207]

>>15901154
explain how:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B80QPGNkzkg

[Anonymous No.15901243]

>>15901154
>>15901207 me
and for the curious, that behavior is perfectly in line with the whole of history's pyramid "keepers". it's quite fascinating, if you're into this kind of shit this video is very nice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MoDgvXMiw4
explains how throughout history most pyramid guides don't really give a fuck about anything but money and time spent inside/risk being subjected to. they wanted you in and out as soon as possible to take your money. btw, that IS at the entrance of the great pyramid, writen clearly, you don't spend more than a few minutes inside the chamber, you get your ass outside of there so other's can see it. in and out as fast as possible, rule, ancient, since it was built.
they even alternated the routes inside, blocked off various corridors so you don't even ask what's there. historians completely missed them for being blocked by pyramid guides to make their life easier.
that is exactly what is still happening today, both physically at the pyramid, and at higher level. it's all about the incentives baby, always. humans rolled that way since forever, proof

[Anonymous No.15901246]

>>15901207
The incentive for modern Egyptian Arabs to take credit for the creation of the pyramids for nationalistic reasons is immense. Why would they pretend they never made them? Every one of the authorities you criticize in >>15901243 affirms a young age for the pyramids, not an old one.

[Anonymous No.15901248]

>>15901246
well the whole idea is that they'd have to publicly denounce it, while blocking dating with their power, that's supposedly the grift.
you are proposing an alternate incentive, and your argument must explain how your argument makes more sense than money, bottom line. especially with the whole promoting it, numbers, sales, economical implications. how does your argument weight against that?

[Anonymous No.15901252]

>>15901248
You don't know much about Arabs do you? Pride is more important than money, especially when their pride over creating the pyramids is a money printer for them. It's their national tourism icon to claim to be the inheritors of that ancient tradition. An entire industry exists to sell stone-carved kitsch based on "ancient methods."

[Anonymous No.15901255]

>>15901252
yeah they have that publicly, no? dating them would only fuck up the spiritual tourism. part of it. they have no incentive of doing some things if it would only eat into their money. incentives, it's always about that.

[Anonymous No.15901258]

>>15901255
They have just as much incentive to hide carbon dates if they destabilize the public narrative and make the Arabs look like squatters on someone else's history.

[Anonymous No.15901267]

>>15901258
yeah (some) science doesn't happen because money and politics. since forever.

[Anonymous No.15901268]

>>15901252
>You don't know much about Arabs do you?
nope. but the pyramids are pretty cool.

[bodhi No.15901322]

>>15895630
>>15895623
good post

[bodhi No.15901325]

[Anonymous No.15901357]

If you seriously entertain the idea that aliens helped humans build stuff, then you simultaneously have to entertain the possibility that you are also disrespecting the lost capabilities of ancient persons by assuming such a thing.

I don’t doubt that ancient persons had access to toolsets that we lost, or just disfavoured over time, even if they were less advanced than us overall now.

Those drill holes around the world are fucking weird.

[Anonymous No.15901493]

>>15899642
It's fascinating that some people would agree with what you just said and also call themselves atheists without seeing any contradictions in their thinking.

[Anonymous No.15901500]

>>15901357
>then you simultaneously have to entertain the possibility that you are also disrespecting the lost capabilities of ancient persons by assuming such a thing.
this. people always use that "but it's in a good way so it's allowed" like overinflating it sure does no harm. just that by doing that they start to grift-rape the whole subject. always good intentions on face value.

[Anonymous No.15902013]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzFMDS6dkWU

[Anonymous No.15902016]

>>15901325
you should see my minecraft world

[Anonymous No.15902056]

>>15901201
>this could not be brushed off as a coincidence so casually
you are retarded.

[Anonymous No.15902066]

>>15901152
>you input the date
>it outputs the position of planets
How is it not a analogue calculator?

[Anonymous No.15902081]

>>15901357
if you entertain the possibility that ancient peoples built the stuff, then you have to entertain the possibility that everything else you've been told about progress is a lie. the controllers would rather you believe in aliens, kek

[Anonymous No.15902925]

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[Anonymous No.15903044]

>>15902066
it's very primitive manual attempt at mechanics.
Calling is calculator is dishonest because it makes plebbitors think it can make complex mathematical calculations.

[Anonymous No.15903080]

>A mechanical calculator, or calculating machine, is a mechanical device used to perform the basic operations of arithmetic automatically, or (historically) a simulation such as an analog computer or a slide rule. Most mechanical calculators were comparable in size to small desktop computers and have been rendered obsolete by the advent of the electronic calculator and the digital computer.

[Anonymous No.15903281]

>>15898330
I used to think this too but it turns out the meter was once defined by a fraction of the distance between the equator and north pole along a longitudinal line through Paris. It was only later that it was redefined by the distance light travels in one second on earth. The unit of time or second hasn't changed much either it's was based on 1/3600 th of an hour which was the original definition from antiquity but now defined by the time taken for cesium to decay or something of that sort.

Combine these units together and it makes sense that pyramid builders would use a time unit like the second and a distance unit like the meter given the lengths they went too to place the pyramids in such precise poaitions.and with near perfect alignment with true north.

Tldr: super ancient humans used the second and something like the meter, possible a unit almost exactly the same as the meter.

[Anonymous No.15903315]

>>15902066
By that logic a table of ephemera is a calculator

[Anonymous No.15903324]

>>15903281
They try to trade equivalent standards all of the way up. Base 10 units are silly for ancient world and they should be running some phi compound.

[Anonymous No.15903430]

>>15895465
>Baghdad battery and dendera lights
>Amber-charged obelisks used to generate electricity (the original purpose of "dancing around poles")

Nuff said

[Anonymous No.15904213]

>>15903430
this is another dishonest sensational plebbit post

[Anonymous No.15904215]

>>15895465
Science makes its presence known by technology. They were primitive cave dwellers because of their primitive science

[Anonymous No.15905417]

[Barkun No.15905423]

>>15905417
Aliens did the pyramids.

[El Arcón No.15905457]

my childhood phone numbers where there are successful archeological studies on the line to the south of the pyramid:
299-2142
297-8149

[El Arcón No.15905460]

>>15905457

[El Arcón No.15905461]

>>15905457
>>15905460

[El Arcón No.15905462]

>>15905457
This is why I am called The Lion of the Tribe of Judah.

[Anonymous No.15906685]

>>15905460
qrd?

[Anonymous No.15908095]

>>15895465
Free GAZA!! FREE PALESTINE!!

[Anonymous No.15908447]

>>15895465
You realise co-ordinates are not unambiguous/absolute enough for the implication of that image to make sense.

[Anonymous No.15908739]

>>15901493
explain

[Anonymous No.15908746]

>>15895465
so advanced that they time travelled into the future to figure out what the standard unit of measurement would be in the 21st century

[Anonymous No.15908749]

>>15908746
people won't just let go juicy conspiracies just because of facts and arguments.
these usually formed in the past, when people knew less. they got a good fan base and later on when legit arguments send the theory to the trash bin you get this weird phenomenon where grifters are trying to keep the story alive so they can get money out of it. it's also usually a big cope, so idiots believing it kinda want it to be real. so something's gotta give, and that's usually idiots choosing to deny real arguments and proof, as there's no other way.
how do you solve this mechanic?

[Anonymous No.15908843]

>>15897325
Clearly a Vibranium hammer made by kangs

[Anonymous No.15910419]

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[Anonymous No.15910444]

>>15895465
Also a guy called Pedro Fernandez built his shitter at that latitude. Coincidence?

[Anonymous No.15911612]

>>15903281
Americans throughly btfoed by the ancients

[Anonymous No.15911615]

>>15898664
>it's actually off by a couple of meters you guise xddd
Now model the drift of the continet and run it back to the time of pyramids construction