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>2.5 year out from math PhD
>no postdocs
>just 2 temporary teaching positions at 2 different universities
It's over. I didn't make it, Kagami.

>> No.15877607

Time for a cabin in the woods

>> No.15877611

you could always teach calculus to ESLs at community college

>> No.15877624

>>15877546
osu!

>> No.15877744

>>15877546
I am sorry to hear that, anon

>> No.15877756

>>15877546
But $500k starting whatever job you want?

>> No.15877779

>>15877546
What did you study? I'm in the analytical side of an EE PhD program and spend a lot of time with math/applied majors. It seems like your job prospects depend a lot of what you studied/researched and how applicable it is to industrial problems.

>> No.15877787

>>15877546
Applied or Pure?
What is your specialization.
The NSA will probably hire you if you know cryptography, I think they have the most money to blow on hiring.

>> No.15877797

>>15877611
It's not that bad, pick somewhere rural and you'll have a nice scenery.

>> No.15877802

>>15877756
It's actually 300k starting and thats only if you studied finance and you get hired as a quant trader at a hedge fund also 300k is just from the signing bonus.

>> No.15877805

>>15877546
>Be PhD and have shit job prospects
>Be MD and have people climbing over one another to hire you
Huh

>> No.15877807

>>15877805
"Overqualified" just means "you'll ask for too high a salary".

>> No.15877825

>>15877787
Pure.

>> No.15877827

>>15877825
Then it's over, what the fuck were you thinking.
What the fuck could algebraic topology and category theory do for companies?

>> No.15877853

>>15877827
Might as well have gotten a philosophy degree lmfao lol rofl kek

>> No.15877884

>>15877827
Topological methods are used in data analysis. Though I guess that's mostly in academia, I don't know if industry has much use for that.

>> No.15877898

>>15877884
>Get a doctorate just to go back to school
What a gigantic cyclical buttfuck

>> No.15877905

>>15877546
You realize that you’re expected to do math yes?
Society gave you a math PhD. Almost 3 years later you should be on the verge of a major breakthrough in mathematics. You’re a doctor of math. Are you telling me you haven’t spent the last 3 years doing your own personal mathematical research and posting your results to build a public persona? What the fuck do you expect us to do?

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>>15877905
>What the fuck do you expect us to do?
Nothing. I'm just venting my disappointment.

>> No.15877980

>>15877884
There's a lot of topological methods used in path planning and mapping for industrial/military robotics. That's still very R&D oriented though.

>> No.15877983

>>15877546
what is the philosophy of mathematics? how do i know what is a legal mathematical statement to make?
i don't get it, it seems random. pls explain

>> No.15877990

>>15877980
You're right, I completely forgot about that. My advisor for my bachelor thesis was a topologist and also did some research in robotics.

>> No.15878049

>>15833839
>Reminder: /sci/ is for discussing topics pertaining to science and mathematics, not for helping you with your homework or helping you figure out your career path.

>If you want advice regarding college/university or your career path, go to /adv/ - Advice.

>> No.15878364

>>15878049
Fuck you. There's like 20 threads about covid shots, IQ, and 0.9999999. The front page has a first semester calculus help thread. Everyone here who isn't underage is in or adjacent to academia.

I want to hear more post-doc misery.

>> No.15878369

>>15878364
I found out that my advisor (who is a dude in his early 60's with a pretty reputable history in my field) shit posts here sometimes. Not sure how I feel about that one.

>> No.15878400

>>15877827
Not just companies, society.

>> No.15878407

>>15878400
Make me think of that meme about the ancient roman engineer that don't give a shit what calculus is.
Meanwhile the modern engineer's autocad crashed or something.
We need to go back

>> No.15878528

>>15877884
>Topological methods are used in data analysis
this is cope. Nobody in industry uses any of that shit

>> No.15878537

You should try to break your hands and let them heal wrong senpai

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>>15878369
Fucking boomers.

>> No.15878689

>>15878674
2+2 = S(S(2)) = S(S(S(1)))

>> No.15879403

Getting a PhD is such midwit trap.
If you worked with something industry relevant and are familiar with analytical instruments and data analysis that carries over into industry then it's great but if you're doing something too esoteric/lab monkey shit where you rely on technicians to hand you all your data it's basically over. Barely better than a HS diploma.

>> No.15879647

If you have programming experience you need to really highlight that. If you don't, then go look for jobs for mathematicians and see what they're asking for, then learn. I'm in bioinformatics (PhD in biology) and the field isn't doing well right now, lots of layoffs and downsizing by companies. Hopefully everything starts to recover next year, stay strong anon.

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>>15877546
Science is made up garbage, you wasted your time and money.
Read the Bible if you want to know truth.

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>>15878674

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15881803

Completing a postdoc is a necessary condition for getting a job. Sufficient conditions for getting a postdoc is unclear to me at the moment.

>> No.15881809

I think I'll just get a master's
I just need enough money to retire in thailand

>> No.15881815

>>15878369
bullshit. Proof?

>> No.15881928

>>15878369
Nobody older than gen x is on 4chan.

>> No.15881941

>>15879403
>lab monkey shit
I'm a mathematician Jim, not a lab rat

>> No.15882022

>>15881941
>scribbles on paper ferociously
>Im A mAtHeMaTiCiAn JiM!
I'll take uhhhhh..... Big Mac...Fri...water.