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15875876 No.15875876 [Reply] [Original]

Let me explain these Myotonic goats to you. They have this special genetic thing that makes them faint or stiff in certain situations. But out in the wild, that's not great for their survival. You'd think that in nature, traits helping animals survive stick around, right? And the ones that don't, they disappear. But here's the thing: smart folks are wondering why these goats have this condition if it doesn't help them survive.

According to evolution, animals should adapt and get better traits over time to survive. But with these fainting goats, it's like they're stuck. They faint at the smallest surprise, which isn't good for them at all.

If evolution was working as it should, these goats should've gotten rid of this fainting thing ages ago. I mean, imagine if every time you got startled, you just fell over.

People might argue that humans purposely bred these goats for their funny fainting episodes. But why would anyone do that? It doesn't make sense to breed animals in a way that makes it hard for them to survive. It's like trying to breed a racehorse with three legs.

Sure, some say these goats were bred to be smaller and less jumpy, so they couldn't escape from enclosures. But let's think about it for a sec.

First, if the goal was just to have smaller goats that can't escape, there are better ways to do that without making them faint. There are lots of goat breeds naturally smaller in size without this weird and problematic fainting thing.

Second, even if breeders wanted smaller, less jumpy goats, it still doesn't explain why fainting had to be part of the deal. It's a totally different thing that goes against the whole idea of selective breeding.

>> No.15878069

Vasovagal syncope? Idk.

>> No.15878087

the goat's natural predator hunted in a cohesive pack, and could only stomach one goat-meal at a time. the predator-pack operated on an incredibly simple algorithm, chase closest goat, with no further complexity or possibility of goat-switching. the evolutionary pressure which cause fast goats thusly disappeared, one need only be further away, running is a waste of precious calories, so the strategy switched from "run away slightly faster than slowest goat" to "don't move or they'll chase you. let closest goat get eaten". unsurprisingly but most importantly, i made this up

>> No.15878260

Literally vaccines.
Goats and sheepnare neurologically poisoned. And its vaccines that contain mercury and aluminium.
There is even a documentary about it where thy did a controlled trial with sheep and aluminium containing vaccines:

>> No.15878703

depends? has the goat been vaccinated?

can the goat build muscle?

>> No.15879023

>>15878069 >>15878087 >>15878260 >>15878703
Just how new are you guys?

>> No.15879355

>It doesn't make sense to breed animals in a way that makes it hard for them to survive. It's like trying to breed a racehorse with three legs.
the purpose of a racehorse is to run. It can't do that as well with 3 legs. The purpose of bred goats isn't to survive in the wild, it's to stay penned up and produce milk/meat. It can do those things whether it faints or not, in fact it's even easier to pen them if they do faint.
So yes it does make sense for humans to have bred them that way.

>> No.15879367

Yes, but it can't explain your retardation.

>> No.15879368 [DELETED] 

There's a deep story behind this goat.

>> No.15880805

>But why would anyone do that?
Same reason we have pugs that can't breathe lol. We're apex, so we determine what's beneficial in terms of mass reproduction, whether it's good for the animal on its own is irrelevant

>> No.15880821

If a breed of domestic goat is bred that faints easily, it probably wasn't bred for the fainting quality; the fainting came along with the desired trait either because it was associated with the desired trait or just coincidentally.
Fainting does not drastically affect the fitness of domesticated goats because they're no longer subject to environmental pressures that would lethally punish them for that.
Kill yourself.