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>in 2024, a solar storm could cause a massive outage to the internet and tech for weeks/months
Is there a way to mitigage the damage or recover?
Wasn't Bill Gates working on some sort of "sun blocker" plan?

>> No.15861866

>>15861859
Really? That may be fun. But it may also not be fun.

Will that be fun?

>> No.15861971

>>15861859
They said "weeks or months".
Is the damage temporary?

>> No.15861986

>>15861866
It'll only be fun if you make it fun

>> No.15861990

>>15861859
ill be in my cave

>> No.15862287

>>15861990
Do you have electricity in your cave?

>> No.15862362

>>15861859
>It's Time to Make Life Miserable for the Connected: We Cannot Reconnect Until the Connected are Disconnected

>> No.15862473 [DELETED] 
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>>>/lit/22719176

>> No.15862548

>>15862287
Candle light and the good Lord's book. All I need.

>> No.15862912
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I wonder if one solution would be for governments/corps/orgs/etc to control tech by shutting it down temporarily but still warning people about it
Because you can't trust families or small business to turn it off on their own, if one city block can be compromised over one guy watching porn on his computer at 1 AM
There can be side effects to this like people requiring electricity for certain things such as hospitals or the potential for crimes during low security
I remember some "earth day" bullshit where people intentionally turned off shit to reduce their footprints and started festivals with fire torches
Maybe for everyone into some sort of "black out party" with fire based lights just to make sure one guy doesn't rob anyone and to make people pass the time

>> No.15864149

>>15861986
Can I blast the speakers? I think maybe only small electronics will be affected...

>> No.15864225

>>15861859
Most data centers have some form of EM shielding, and have multiple offsite backups. The net might be down for a few weeks at most.

>> No.15864322

>>15864225
That's not even the issue with geomagnetic storms. The alfven waves in the magnetosphere are very low frequency so the only object large enough to act as an antenna is the earth, and dB/dt is only a few nT/s so significant voltages can only he induced on objects with ground loops that are 10s of km long.
The only parts of the infrastructure directly affected are long electrical transmission lines and non-optical undersea communications cables, the latter of which will likely be physically damanges by the geomagnetically induced currents. mitigations by individual data centers won't do shit.

>> No.15870401

>>15864322
The whole internet will be lost media

>> No.15871256

>>15861971
Transformers might be overloaded and destroyed, in which case you would have to replace them. From news around here, they have very few spares, claiming it is not cost effective to keep any in cold storage.
If massive overcurrents enter generators, it would take even longer time to replace.

>> No.15871338

>>15864322
Surely, the EM radiation released in the storm would be able to interfere in some way with the photons carried by the optical cables

>> No.15871377

>>15871338
No. The magnetic field of a photon is virtually zero. Magnets don't affect light.

>> No.15871431

>>15871377
>magnets don't effect light
>what is polarising light

>> No.15871560

>>15861859
Son, you need to learn how to read headlines.

When you get a headline that contains the word 'could', you need to add the words 'but probably won't' at the end.

>> No.15871570 [DELETED] 

>muh soiyence fiction comic book scenario
>>>/lit/sffg

>> No.15872223

>>15861859
>in 2024, a solar storm could cause a massive outage to the internet and tech for weeks/months
Solar storms of this magnitude happen pretty much every year.
It's just that they almost never hit Earth.
This is a nothingburger.

>> No.15872648

>>15871431
NTA but you need a huge field local to the fibre to experience any significant Faraday rotation. Such a field could (depending on rise or fall time) induce absolutely enormous and destructive currents in any large metallic structure.

>> No.15872672

>>15861859
I like giantess sun girl

>> No.15874841

>>15861866
Yes

>> No.15874866

>>15861859
How does one stick their dick into the sun?

>> No.15874868

>>15861859
The Sunshades in space wouldn't be able to block such a solar storm

>> No.15875563

>>15861859
Such devastating storm was end of world in 2012 and I somehow doesn't noticed even bigger ping on the internet.

>> No.15875894

>>15874868
A CME can contain billions of tons of matter, the mass equivalent of mountains. A micron thin film sunshade will have problems, even if the tonnage is distributed across an area corresponding to the cross section area of the Earth about half a billion square kilometers).
You can still use long conductors in the magnetosphere to short out the charges.

>> No.15878124

>>15862287
Maybe