/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15859510]

Should I be unironically scared if the vaccine does fuck me up in the future? What will be the aftermath of humanity if 70% of people die painfully from it?

[Anonymous No.15859529]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Bw0qJdZ9Qxo

[Anonymous No.15859560]

>>15859510
No. Why would you? After 5 days or so, the RNA has left your body. All harm that the vaccine could've done (myocarditis etc.) was either caused then or it wasn't. If you don't have any symptoms within the first month or so, there's literally no reason to be worried. The "long-term" in "long-term adverse effects" stands for how long you suffer (potentially for the rest of your life) not how long it takes for the first symptoms to pop up.

[Anonymous No.15859605]

>>15859560
Bro, I got myo 8 months after the vaccine after a 2 week intensive hike. I was 17. Honestly OP if you're alright after 2 years or so you're probably grand. The vaccine can cause damage that only appears later after heavy exercise, but if you are fine up to now you're probably good.

[Anonymous No.15860100]

>>15859605
most likely you were pushing yourself too hard, the heart is a muscle like all others.

[Anonymous No.15860130]

feels good being a pureblood, no worries for me.
anyone who is jealous of me should reply angrily to this post

[Anonymous No.15860143]

>>15859605
>I got myo 8 months after the vaccine
From the vaccine? Or will you blame literally every health issue on the vaccine for the rest of your life?

[Anonymous No.15860211]

>>15859560
>After 5 days or so, the RNA has left your body.
Wasn't this disproven in 2021?

[Anonymous No.15860233]

>>15860143
>From the vaccine?
Obviously. It causes subclinical myocarditis in most males that progresses into clinical myocarditis unexpectedly from exertion.

[Anonymous No.15860236]

>>15860211
Yes it was. The DNA and RNA in the shots can seemingly persist in the body for 6 months to a year. Spike production never ceased for studied individuals.

[Anonymous No.15860245]

>>15860236
>seemingly persist
be specific

[Anonymous No.15860260]

>>15860245
Their markers persist. Whether that's equivalent to them still being there is up to your faith in the use of PCR in a testing methodology.

[Anonymous No.15860275]

>>15859605
>>15860233
>The vaccine can cause damage that only appears later after heavy exercise
The hell is the source on this? You're telling me I wouldn't have gotten myocarditis if I had skipped the gym? What the actual fuck

[Anonymous No.15860282]

>>15860275
The damage appears immediately (in biomarkers anyway) but stress worsens the harm and your heart doesn't really recover from scarring like that. This stuff is basic science.

[Anonymous No.15860297]

>>15860282
So no source then

[Anonymous No.15860304]

>>15860260
again, post where you got your info from, idc where it's from.

[Anonymous No.15860305]

>>15860297
You went 3 years never hearing about subclinical myocarditis? It's in all the safety material for the jabs. Did they just never warn you, or did you not read it?

[Anonymous No.15860313]

>>15860304
Every long-term study shows it. The evidence was so dramatic that the CDC actually forced the removal of claims that vaccine mRNA doesn't persist in the body longer than a few weeks.

[Anonymous No.15860319]

>>15860313
so it's easy for you to find a source, why not post one?

[Anonymous No.15860323]

>>15860319
Laziness.

[Anonymous No.15860335]

>>15860305
>>15860313
>It's in all the safety material for the jabs
>Every long-term study shows it
And yet you can't seem to point to one. Crazy

[Anonymous No.15860342]

>>15860304
Here's an example:

>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36647776/
>In Denmark, vaccination against Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Corona Virus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) has been with the Pfizer-BioNTech (BTN162b2) or the Moderna (mRNA-1273) mRNA vaccines. Patients with chronic hepatitis C virus (HCV) infection followed in our clinic received mRNA vaccinations according to the Danish roll-out vaccination plan. To monitor HCV infection, RNA was extracted from patient plasma and RNA sequencing was performed on the Illumina platform. In 10 of 108 HCV patient samples, full-length or traces of SARS-CoV-2 spike mRNA vaccine sequences were found in blood up to 28 days after COVID-19 vaccination. Detection of mRNA vaccine sequences in blood after vaccination adds important knowledge regarding this technology and should lead to further research into the design of lipid-nanoparticles and the half-life of these and mRNA vaccines in humans.

Now critics will say "but those patients have Hep C!" More than 28 days of plasma circulating RNA is still far longer than we were told about. There's also studies showing the RNA exists for over a year in germinal centers, and the S1 subunit of the spike protein was found to persist for more than a year.. That's another issue, they were supposed to be stabilized in the closed position so there would be no binding, except it's kind of moot when proteases cleave them and they float around as subunits. I'm not saying the vaccines are going to kill everyone or two more weeks, but the difference between what we were told and what we learned makes it clear why vaccines are SUPPOSED to be studied for years before they're released to the general public. You can't predict what you don't know.

[Anonymous No.15860346]

>>15860335
I could, but I won't. I'm not your PI.

[Anonymous No.15860362]

>>15860346
back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.15860374]

>>15860304
>>15860342
And here's another from a healthy cohort showing persisting vaccine mRNA in serum at least 15 days after vaccination.

>https://www.mdpi.com/2227-9059/10/7/1538
>COVID-19 mRNA vaccines effectively reduce incidence of severe disease, hospitalisation and death. The biodistribution and pharmacokinetics of the mRNA-containing lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) in these vaccines are unknown in humans. In this study, we used qPCR to track circulating mRNA in blood at different time-points after BNT162b2 vaccination in a small cohort of healthy individuals. We found that vaccine-associated synthetic mRNA persists in systemic circulation for at least 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.15860378]

>>15860342
what about taking a sauna

[Anonymous No.15860382]

>>15860378
No idea though they seem pretty beneficial in general assuming you're not in terrible health.

[Anonymous No.15860392]

>>15860382
So the vaccine blows a ton of shit into the blood stream, and it ends up all over the body (and over time the body works to remove it), I think this is expected, the claims for mrna/lpn half life I do not know, though it looks like it's over 30 days

[Anonymous No.15860412]

>>15860392
The total clearance time was claimed to be 2 weeks (not a joke). It's at least 2x that, and according to some studies is over 10x higher.

[Anonymous No.15860423]

>>15860412
yeah that doesn't sounds right. I would ask "2 weeks for whom", averages in a country like america where race/socioeconomic status/pre-existing conditions create such distinct groups, a generalized claim like this is meaningless

[Anonymous No.15860430]

>>15860423
Take that up with the CDC. They just gave blanket averages until they scrubbed all claims of a time limit for clearance when studies showed it lasted far longer than the manufacturers claimed.

[Anonymous No.15860611]

>>15859510
50% chance you die within 5 years of getting the vaxxx

[Anonymous No.15860657]

>>15860423
>averages in a country like america where race/socioeconomic status/pre-existing conditions create such distinct groups, a generalized claim like this is meaningless
Hell, there seems to be a sub-cohort that develops major problems because they can't form the proper anti-bodies to bind the entire spike protein from the vaccine (the virus too?). They don't seem unhealthy at the start, and it's not something you'd necessarily expect (although I kind of do now, the anthrax vaccines appeared to have the same issue), but it shows how unique each immune system is.

[Anonymous No.15860706]

>>15860657
it's possible.. you might need to actually get covid for the vaccine to work, since many cases of myocarditis have spike proteins in the blood sans antibodies, presumably produced by the body as a result of the vaccine but without any virus. (Spitballing here) Getting the virus would then associate these proteins with that virus and that would be the end of it.. On the other hand, the body could produce spikes for other issues on the body (where they accumulate or circulate and eventually get cleaned out)

[Anonymous No.15860712]

>>15860706
The problem is that the vaccine makes your heart tissue express spikes, which your body then kills causing inflammation.

[Anonymous No.15860717]

>>15859510
>two weeks
lol

[Anonymous No.15860731]

>>15860712
the report I read showed full-length spikes without antibodies
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10010667/

>heart tissue express spikes
I'm not sure what this means (outside of my domain) however what I understand is these accumulate in heart tissue triggering the immune response (myocarditis)

[Anonymous No.15860743]

>>15860731
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10010667/
Yup, same thing I was referring to earlier about lacking the proper antibodies. I think the other anon is assuming the LNPs circulate and reach the myocardium cells, which then produce spikes and are targeted by the immune system. Circulating spikes causing direct damage are a possible explanation too.

[Anonymous No.15860744]

>>15859510
Nah it's not mandatory so why bother.

[Anonymous No.15860757]

>>15859510
two more weeks...we just need more time...

[Anonymous No.15860764]

>>15860744
kek!

[Anonymous No.15860766]

>>15860743
It's not really an assumption, it's just a fact. Biopsies have shown that the LNPs travel throughout the entire body, even to the brain. There was never any hope of keeping it contained to the muscle tissue if you really thought about it.

[Anonymous No.15860789]

>my heart is going to esplode within the next twenty years because of my insane neurotic grandparents

[Anonymous No.15860790]

>>15860766
well, a lot of people also get tattoos.. I suppose it's really just a function of time for healthy people as they're bodies clear these out

[Anonymous No.15860795]

>>15860790
What?

[Anonymous No.15860804]

>>15860795
>Basically, dichromate salts, cobalt (Co), cadmium, and mercury are considered bases for the colors green, blue, yellow, and red, while iron oxide, titanium dioxide, carbon, and manganese are commonly used to create the colors brown, white, black, and violet. Iron oxides are present in 1–4% of all tattoo inks
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9846827/

[Anonymous No.15861085]

>>15860790
Your body never clears these out same with tattoo ink it just clogs up ur lymph nodes go look dissected lymph nodes of tattoo havers, also latest news that have come out from actual researchers show plasmid dna contamination since the cheapass corrupt big pharmacorps used a faster/cheaper method of production for the mass shots vs the trial ones. This means the chances are pretty high alot of vaxxers have permanently altered their dna since the lnp makes it easy for the dna to get inside your cells.love how we all decided to inhabit the bioshock timeline with less cool powers

[Anonymous No.15861093]

>>15861085
I know, unlike tattoo ink presumably (I am assuming) the LNPs have a much shorter half life.. as far as the rest of your post is concerned, I have no comment aside from our dna always changes, and things like the vaccine manufacturing process and formulas should be public domain..

[Anonymous No.15861116]

>>15859510
you should be more concerned about the precedent set for coercing people into taking medication, a denial of informed consent

[Anonymous No.15861126]

>>15861116
People are already claiming nobody was forced to take it, which was something pol predicted they would do.

[Anonymous No.15861191]

>>15861126
But nobody was forced to take it. That's true, and only revisionist schizo chud history claims otherwise.
Your employer requiring up to date vaccinations as a condition of employment is simply the free market. Nobody was forced to get the vaccine. You always had a choice.

[Anonymous No.15861200]

>>15861191
kek exactly like that. No refunds.

[Anonymous No.15861222]

>>15861200
Australia has been using exactly that logic for several years now. "There were no mandates" except only businesses with vaxxed staff were allowed to open during lockdowns. So the state effectively coerced the people by putting pressure on industry.
In fact, in some states restrictions were made MORE severe as the % vaxxed increased, demonstrating a clear intent to coerce the holdouts.

[Anonymous No.15861223]

>>15861222
Australians also weren't allowed to travel between territories if unvaxxed, and some were put in concentration camps for trying.

[Anonymous No.15861333]

>>15859560
> RNA has left your body
The vax contains all kinds of toxins you stupid piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.15861339]

>>15860143
Keep pushing the vaccine and use your real name. I will love seeing you with a tire in the neck and burned alive. That is what you deserve you piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.15861433]

>>15859510
no, it's very safe, what you should be worried about is covid and long covid

[Anonymous No.15861437]

>>15859605
how many times did you have covid

[Anonymous No.15861465]

>>15861200
so we're fucked? and if people that many people die at such a rate you wouldn't care or do anything about it? still suck on the government teet? humanity is fucking doomed man if this is true

[Anonymous No.15861471]

>>15859560
>no studies done on human before the vax was released
>no studies done on humans even today after the vax
>its illegal to do any study because it might promote vax hesitensy if people found out about side effects
>its illegal to share any side effects of the vax with others online
That doesn't inspire any sort of confidence in the vax

[Anonymous No.15861496]

>>15861465
What are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.15861502]

>>15861496
the vaccine bro, im fucking regret taking this shit, i only did it cause i got an autoimmune disorder but i feel like that vaccine was rushed man, should of done enough tests and wait a bit longer, but i got it early and i'm scared shitless our government might fucked us over already

[Anonymous No.15861503]

>>15861502
People with autoimmune disorders don't even get an effect from normal vaccines. Why did you think it would be a good idea to take an experimental one?

[Anonymous No.15862375]

>>15861502
no point in being scared now since it seems to be the reality. whether it was planned or not, we are being sold out. we have too much debt and it's rug pulling time soon enough

[Anonymous No.15862454]

>>15861471
>its illegal to share any side effects of the vax with others online
wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.15862527]

>>15862454
What do you think the online social media sites were doing for the last 3 years and even today?

They were working with the US government illegally to censor anyone sharing side effect stories of the vaccines. Anyone that got caught had their accounts banned/censored/etc.

Youtube does it today. Google search does it today. Fagbook does it today. Instagram does it today. Leddit does it today. Wikipedia does it today. Twitter did it for a while, before Musk musked it away lmao. And because Musk musked Twitter away, the entire government of the west decided to pass laws that gave them the power to censor legally what their own constitutions/UN human rights charter didn't allow them to.

EU has DSA/ChatControl, UK has Online Safety Bill, Australia has their own misinformation/disinformation laws, Japan is in the process of passing one, Canada has something similar. US/Biden admin had tried creating a ministry of truth and it was scrapped after few days of outcry.

The fact that you dont even know whats happening isn't a coincidence. Its that the media you watch, the people you trust in powers, the ones that decide what "truth" is, has decided to pull the wool over your eyes in keeping you blind/deaf/mute/retarded and likewise, if you're too intuned to the party ideology, you will believe the exact opposite.

[Anonymous No.15862973]

>>15861191
>Your employer requiring up to date vaccinations as a condition of employment is simply the free market.
Except all vaccinations aren't a requirement for employment. An experimental vaccine that was not originally a condition of employment became a condition of employment. The contract was changed. There's a reason so much of this was contested in court and many companies dropped their policies.

[Anonymous No.15862978]

>>15859510
Deagel's 2015 forecast was -70% depopulation by 2025.
This is such a whitepill.

I truly do not wish pain on you demonic cattle, but if dread and intense pain is what's needed for this plane to be rid of you filth, so be it.

[Anonymous No.15862985]

>>15862978
>Deagel's 2015 forecast was -70% depopulation by 2025.
Well that's certainly not going to happen unless something changes dramatically in the next year. I expect there to be a slight elevation in deaths, and a rise in chronic problems that aren't attributable to anything.

[Anonymous No.15862997]

>>15862985
The forecast made no sense whatsoever at the time.
And yet, here we are, with 70% of the goyulation muted, essentially overnight, of its own free will.

One year and one month left.
Stop anthropomorphising the cattle, and get your popcorn while waiting for whatever is to come.

[Anonymous No.15863055]

>>15862997
>And yet, here we are, with 70% of the goyulation muted, essentially overnight, of its own free will.
This is really the spectacular part, isn't it? In 2015 nobody predicted this was possible. Even the most die-hard conspiracy theorists had more faith in the general public back then.

[Anonymous No.15863283]

>>15862997
>>15863055
I'm personally not vaxxed, I think they're a bad idea, but people who have been fine since early 2021 are going to suddenly drop dead in the next year? I doubt it. I expect the negative consequences (for most people who started off healthy) to be more subtle, a little more inflamed, colds being a little worse, things that will wear people down over time. Maybe in decades we'll see heart attacks are a hell of a lot higher than they should be, and that will be blamed on everything but the covid vaccines. Of course in 20 more years people may be getting 5 shots a year for covid, RSV, the flu, and who knows what else.

[Anonymous No.15863290]

>>15863283
If people took five mystery juice injections already without questioning it, who knows what they'll be willing to cooperate with.

[Anonymous No.15863323]

>>15863290
A lot of the people I know pretty much stopped covid vaccinating after the second shot, or the first booster (3rd shot). But then they were okay with the flu shot, and I know the RSV vaccine is being pushed hard, and my parents were just asked to get another pneumonia vaccine after the one they had in 2017 or 2018 was supposedly the last pneumonia vaccine they'd ever need. Yeah, as long as people cooperate, pharmaceutical companies will see dollar signs.

[Anonymous No.15863327]

>>15862454
If you don't know shit just fuck off out of here you stupid moron.

[Anonymous No.15863348]

>>15862985
LMAO, imagine believing you are alone in the universe and not in a dark forest surrounded by predators.

[Anonymous No.15863355]

>>15863348
>LMAO, imagine believing you are alone in the universe and not in a dark forest surrounded by predators.

[Anonymous No.15863388]

>>15863355
Uma delícia!

[Anonymous No.15863393]

>>15863290
it's what they're willing to FORCE ON ME that I'm worried about.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aLbF0y_dRQc

[Anonymous No.15863887]

>>15863393
But I thought >>15861191 said nobody was forced to take it.

[Anonymous No.15864142]

>>15863283
man i'm so fucking retarded, IDK WHY I GOT FUCKING VAXXED, THE FUCKING MEDIA PUSHED THIS SHIT ON ME AND MY DUMBASS FELT FOR IT, ALL MY FRIENDS TOOK AND I'M SCARED SHITLESS FUCK

[Anonymous No.15864168]

>>15864142
Please calm down.

Watch this video.
https://files.catbox.moe/jenwu9.mp4
This is your blood.

Please calm down, elevated heartrate is very dangerous to you.

[Anonymous No.15864179]

>>15864168
that was non pfizer vaccines like J&J, there hasnt been a case with pfizer

[Anonymous No.15864187]

>>15864179
Yes, very good.
Happy thoughts, happy thoughts.
You are fine.
Calm down.

[Anonymous No.15864481]

>>15864142
Just try to be healthy and don't boost. It may be detoxed over time. We're all exposed to nasty things throughout our lives.

[Anonymous No.15864489]

>>15864481
I boosted though.. only once, idk what idiot took the last two boosters

[Anonymous No.15864496]

>>15861191
That's called coercion. Literally the opposite of what you are saying.
The threat is that you will never find a job or be able to live without agreeing to arbritrary demands.
It's also discrimination. As if holding a gun to peoples ability to live wasn't bad enough.

[Anonymous No.15864499]

>>15864496
its over anon, they will literally call you a terrorist and tell you that they never forced anyone, they're unstoppable at this point.

[Anonymous No.15864565]

>>15861191
>>15864496
It is reasonable and usual as part of an employment contract to require e. g., arbitration instead of court remedy to settle employment disputes. It's also reasonable to require employees to waive certain rights (e. g., free speech). It is unreasonable to the point of being unethical to require employees as a condition of employment to use a third-party vendor's product with no recourse to any kind of remedy for torts arising from product use. And if the employer (or university regarding student vax requirements) has any nexus with the government, it violates 7th Amendment rights.

[Anonymous No.15864625]

>>15864489
I just mean nothing from here on out. It's not like you can go back to the past, but you can make good decisions going forward. If you don't notice anything wrong now then you're probably okay. It's the people that keep pressing their luck with vaccines who are at risk, especially if they already have some health problems.