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The theory of relativity is a mathematical system that allows no exceptions. It is heavily promoted by liberals who like its encouragement of relativism and its tendency to mislead people in how they view the world. Here is a list of 28 counterexamples: any one of them shows that the theory is incorrect.

1. The Pioneer anomaly.

2. Anomalies in the locations of spacecraft that have flown by Earth ("flybys").

3. Increasingly precise measurements of the advance of the perihelion of Mercury show a shift greater than predicted by relativity, well beyond the margin of error.

4. The discontinuity in momentum as velocity approaches "c" for infinitesimal mass, compared to the momentum of light.

5. The logical problem of a force which is applied at a right angle to the velocity of a relativistic mass - does this act on the rest mass or the relativistic mass?

6. The observed lack of curvature in overall space.

7. The universe shortly after its creation, when quantum effects dominated and contradicted Relativity.

8. The action-at-a-distance of quantum entanglement.

9. The action-at-a-distance by Jesus, described in John 4:46-54.

10. The failure to discover gravitons, despite wasting hundreds of millions in taxpayer money in searching.

11. The inability of the theory to lead to other insights, contrary to every verified theory of physics.

12. The change in mass over time of standard kilograms preserved under ideal conditions.

13. The uniformity in temperature throughout the universe.

14. "The snag is that in quantum mechanics, time retains its Newtonian aloofness, providing the stage against which matter dances but never being affected by its presence. These two [QM and Relativity] conceptions of time don’t gel."

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15. The theory predicts wormholes just as it predicts black holes, but wormholes violate causality and permit absurd time travel.

16. The theory predicts natural formation of highly ordered (and thus low entropy) black holes despite the increase in entropy required by the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

17. Data from the PSR B1913+16 increasingly diverge from predictions of the General Theory of Relativity such that, despite a Nobel Prize in Physics being awarded for early work on this pulsar, no data at all have been released about it for over five years.

18. The lack of a single useful device developed based on any insights provided by the theory; no lives have been saved or helped, and the theory has not led to other useful theories and may have interfered with scientific progress. This stands in stark contrast with every verified theory of science. The only device based on relativity is the atom bomb, but that has destroyed far more lives than it's saved so it can hardly be considered useful.

19. Relativity requires different values for the inertia of a moving object: in its direction of motion, and perpendicular to that direction. This contradicts the logical principle that the laws of physics are the same in all directions.

20. Relativity requires that anything traveling at the speed of light must have mass zero, so it must have momentum zero. But the laws of electrodynamics require that light have nonzero momentum.

21. Unlike most well-tested fundamental physical theories, the theory of relativity violates conditions of a conservative field. Path independence, for example, is lacking under the theory of relativity, as in the "twin paradox" whereby the age of each twin under the theory is dependent on the path he traveled.

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22. The Ehrenfest Paradox: Consider a spinning hoop, where the tangential velocity is near the speed of light. In this case, the circumference (2πR) is length-contracted. However, since R is always perpendicular to the motion, it is not contracted. This leads to an apparent paradox: does the radius of the accelerating hoop equal R, or is it less than R?

23. The Twin Paradox: Consider twins who are separated with one traveling at a very high speed such that his "clock" (age) slows down, so that when he returns he has a younger age than the twin; this violates Relativity because both twins should expect the other to be younger, if motion is relative. Einstein himself admitted that this contradicts Relativity.

24. Relativity predicted that clocks at the Earth's equator would be slower than clocks at the North Pole, due to different velocities; in fact, all clocks at sea level measure time at the same rate, and Relativists made new assumptions about the Earth's shape to justify this contradiction of the theory.

25. Relativity claims the aether does not exist, but in order to make subatomic physics work right, theorists had to introduce the aether-like concept of the Higgs field, which fills all of space and breaks symmetries.

26. Minkowski space is predicated on the idea of four-dimensional vectors of which one component is time. However, one of the properties of a vector space is that every vector have an inverse. Time cannot be a vector because it has no inverse.

27. It is impossible to perform an experiment to determine whether Einstein's theory of relativity is correct, or the older Lorentz aether theory is correct. Believing one over the other is a matter of faith.

28. In Genesis 1:6-8, we are told that one of God's first creations was a firmament in the heavens. This likely refers to the creation of the luminiferous aether.

>> No.1585927

KITTY!!!

>> No.1585928

omg such a cute cat!

>> No.1585931

Theory of relativity predicted Black holes years before we could detect them.

/thread

>> No.1585933

>>1585912
> 9. The action-at-a-distance by Jesus, described in John 4:46-54.

I loled

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This is now a cat thread.

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>18. The lack of a single useful device developed based on any insights provided by the theory; no lives have been saved or helped, and the theory has not led to other useful theories and may have interfered with scientific progress. This stands in stark contrast with every verified theory of science. The only device based on relativity is the atom bomb, but that has destroyed far more lives than it's saved so it can hardly be considered useful.

That one pissed me off the most.

>> No.1585946

I'm going to post this on /b/ and piss off everyody.

>> No.1585950

conservipedia bullshit; Only dumbshit retards read that page so I don't give a fuck

>> No.1585952

>>1585931
Newtonian gravity predicts black holes as well.

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Captcha: canictut freedom (wat)

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>>1585912
Pic related, directed at OP

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>mfw reading ops "bullshit"

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>> No.1585987

TEN TIMES A FUCKING DAY

THIS CONSERVAPEDIA COPY-PASTA BULLSHIT

FUCK

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>>1585912
>>1585921
>>1585925
A little closer.

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>>1585985
Fuck you...
Fuck you so much.

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>mfw this thread is getting derailed by cats

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There... I'm done.

>> No.1586043

Wait a second. Shouldn't or doesn't /sci/ hate cats?

>> No.1586046

OLD NEWS IS OLD
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/conservapedia_founder_takes_on_the_notorious_liber
.php?ref=fpa

>> No.1586047

>>1586043
Ionno any board on 4chan that does.

>> No.1586051

>>1586043
We both hate, and do not hate cats, at the same time.

>> No.1586055

This is clearly a parody of 'refutations' of evolution.

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>>1586051
Do you know how fast you are going, sir?

>> No.1586072

>>1586070
No, but I know where I am.

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these cats.... they please me

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>> No.1586169

Are you serious?

Really?

Are you really bringing this garbage here?

First of all, arguing the theory of relativity is like arguing the sun rising. Yes, it may not be a ball of burning plasma several million miles away, but the odds against it are astronomical and fly in the face of evidence gathered.

Being a theory, it means it can be proven wrong ONLY if a better idea is postulated. It's not so simple as "there are problems with it, it must be wrong!"

To view it objectively, you must say "There are problems with it, how do we explain them?"

But your from conservipedia... and have the brains of a wallnut, and thinking beyond fear of the 'liberal agenda' is too hard.

>> No.1586174

>>1585912

>10. The failure to discover gravitons, despite wasting hundreds of millions in taxpayer money in searching.
>despite wasting hundreds of millions in taxpayer money in searching.
> taxpayer money

lol no.

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>my reaction when I'm reading Conservapedia

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>reaction to reading conservipedia

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>>1585912
Thank you Schrodinger for another wonderful thread. Or is it?

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this thread is now about reactions to reading conservipedia.
Pic related.

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reaction to reading conservipedia

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MY reaction to reading conservipedia...dude

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>>1585998
This is probably the best cat picture/gif I have ever seen.

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