/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

[Anonymous No.15857759]

TFR issued edition

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[Anonymous No.15857767]

>>15857759
Hope it lifts off vertically next launch which is happening THIS week. Not in two weeks.

[Anonymous No.15857768]

3 more days

[Anonymous No.15857769]

Soon

[Anonymous No.15857771]

>>15857759
lick the depths of my rusty anus backPIGS.
it wont launch.

[Anonymous No.15857773]

[Anonymous No.15857775]

Pad explosion

[Anonymous No.15857777]

>>15857771
>spamming 4 posts within 10 minutes
sure looks like a sign of a winner.
you lack the exaggerated swagger of a black teen. you're all nervous and fidgety.

[Anonymous No.15857778]

>>15857773
nice webcam quality footage

[Anonymous No.15857779]

we gaan

[Anonymous No.15857780]

>>15857778
Cry about it

[Anonymous No.15857782]

ENERGY STATUS?

[Barkun No.15857783]

>>15857773
The head needs to spin if it's to launch otherwise it's too sturdy and counter balancing.

[Anonymous No.15857784]

>>15857782
modelo time

[Anonymous No.15857785]

>>15857775
>>15857777

[Anonymous No.15857787]

[Anonymous No.15857788]

If more than three engines fail again I am going to commit sodoku

[Anonymous No.15857792]

>>15857788
the engine bay just needs to stop catching on fire, which seems like a skill issue desu

[Anonymous No.15857794]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ciwBK35rCY
GET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ciwBK35rCY
THE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ciwBK35rCY
FUCK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ciwBK35rCY
IN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ciwBK35rCY
HERE

[Anonymous No.15857796]

[Anonymous No.15857797]

>>15857788
raptor has a 25% failure rate consistantly so just multiply that out over 33.
Time to get some rope little fag

[Anonymous No.15857800]

>>15857787
So will they let them put cameras that close again? Should be fine with the deluge system, but they might also be weary, and who is going to risk their gear this time?

[Anonymous No.15857802]

>>15857794
>NSF
Unless it has the QT jewess with the big earrings I'm not gonna watch

[Anonymous No.15857804]

>>15857802
what's her name? IG?

[Anonymous No.15857805]

>>15857797
>t. bitter (ex) ULA guy

[Anonymous No.15857806]

>>15857759
https://youtu.be/52dVfhgt_T4?t=694
https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136

[Anonymous No.15857812]

>>15857805
>t.

[Anonymous No.15857814]

>>15857800
I don't see why not. SpaceX told them the risks and they know what they're getting into, the areas outside the fence line are public property, and the images are great PR.

[Anonymous No.15857816]

>>15857769
>30 engine failure

[Anonymous No.15857823]

>>15857800
the money they make off the footage more than justifies the risk to the gear

[Anonymous No.15857826]

is there any footage from super close up to the engine ignition, like apollo/space shuttle engineering cameras?

[Anonymous No.15857827]

>>15857816
Hot staging calls for keeping the three center engines burning at minimum throttle while the upper stage makes some distance, at which point the booster will flip and light the ten inner engines for the boostback burn.

[Anonymous No.15857833]

>>15857804
Elysia Segal

[Anonymous No.15857835]

>>15857805
disgusting mars obsessed muskrat.
i hate space cadets.

[Anonymous No.15857841]

>>15857835
Found the Chinese nationalist

[Anonymous No.15857845]

>>15857797
>raptor has a 25% failure rate consistantly

No it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.15857847]

>>15857833
Intriguing

[Anonymous No.15857851]

Think it'll happen again?

[Anonymous No.15857852]

LMAAAOOOO

[Anonymous No.15857854]

>>15857852
They are exbandibg.....i hope the twink gets big too :))

[Anonymous No.15857855]

Still office hours in Washington.

[Anonymous No.15857858]

dont expect a license until friday

[Anonymous No.15857860]

We can expect a license today or tomorrow per my sources

[Anonymous No.15857861]

Well so much for the Mars Sample Return. Look for this "pause" to morph into a stealth cancellation.

Ask Elon to bring a box of rocks back in his carry on luggage.

[Anonymous No.15857862]

>>15857852
But I like the british twink…

[Anonymous No.15857864]

>>15857861
save us elon

[Anonymous No.15857867]

>>15857841
Wait a second...

[Anonymous No.15857875]

>>15857841
How come SpaceX is legally allowed to operate this without a license?

[Anonymous No.15857876]

sfg space wargame tournament

[Anonymous No.15857880]

>>15857864
The NASA Spaceflight forum have been having a discussion on a direct sample return from Mars. Strap a Midgetman ICBM on a Starship. Land, load with rocks, and launch towards Earth. Apparently that size missile has more than enough delta v for going wildman. Wonder if a Pershing II could pull it off too.

[Anonymous No.15857882]

>>15857862
who's that genital jumper?

[Anonymous No.15857886]

>>15857875
Because clean water that doesn't cause drainage/flooding issues doesn't need to be licensed.

[Anonymous No.15857892]

>>15857852
Whenever I see middle guy I think 'mutt' in my head. I can't help it.

[Anonymous No.15857893]

>>15857852
reminder that the one in the middle is paralysed from the waist down because he got punched in the stomach by a bully at school

[Anonymous No.15857894]

>>15857782
Can only describe my feelings as glee and skizo visions of future life in space

[Anonymous No.15857904]

>>15857861
China's sample return architecture is so much more simple

[Anonymous No.15857906]

>>15857769
sure hope the starship engine bay is sufficiently protected...

[Anonymous No.15857913]

>>15857858
my sources say license at T-30s

[Anonymous No.15857915]

You have to wonder if the anon concern trolling about engine bay fires has any idea what SpaceX has done to prevent them on IFT-2.

[Anonymous No.15857917]

>>15857915
theyve done nothing.

[Anonymous No.15857921]

>>15857913
the flight computer goes to the FAA website to check for a license before lighting the engines.

[Anonymous No.15857925]

>>15857915
Ignore it lmao. Ironic shitposting becomes part of ones identity if you do it long enough

[Anonymous No.15857929]

>>15857886
then what is fws doing? if spacex is killing fish without a license what purpose do they serve

[Anonymous No.15857931]

>>15857893
KEK

[Anonymous No.15857932]

>>15857833
her voice does things to me

[Anonymous No.15857934]

>>15857904
>>15857861
It's NASA's fault for turning it into ISS 3.0

[Anonymous No.15857936]

>>15857929
Making sure starship doesn't kill sharks.

[Anonymous No.15857937]

>>15857917
unironically that's what the FAA investigation doc says. all the stuff that contributed to raptor fires are not resolved on this rocket, not even in the latest prod versions. the issue list says they are kicking the can down the road, and for some reason FAA approved it lol

[Anonymous No.15857943]

>>15857936
What people arent telling you is OFT-1 actually landed on a shark AND a whale and killed both. Fucking Elon did it personally. He reportedly said over the intercom "Aim for that shark!" fuck him FUCKING HATE HIM

[Anonymous No.15857944]

>>15857929
They exist to make sure the environmental effects of things are documented.

[Anonymous No.15857947]

If they're already in the lower 400s on the number of engines produced, is there a reason to use mid 150-200s engine numbers for the second IFT? Wouldn't it be more valuable to the success of the flight to get the most amount of data to use 250-300s or 300-350 numbered engines?

[Anonymous No.15857949]

>>15857932
Yeah

>>15857913
At this point the license must have been submitted by this point and is just waiting approval. FTS and TFR seems like a definite "we gaan" sign form SpaceX

[Anonymous No.15857952]

What was the point of this NSF stream exactly?

[Anonymous No.15857954]

>>15857947
>over 400 raptors made
>ULA still sitting around saying WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY ENGINES JEFF HUH WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY?

[Anonymous No.15857956]

>>15857952
Boredom

[Anonymous No.15857959]

>>15857952
get money

[Anonymous No.15857961]

>>15857952
With no tanks to watch, NSF has been hemoraging ad revenue

[Anonymous No.15857962]

>>15857797
Even IFT1 didn't see 25% of its raptors fail.

[Anonymous No.15857967]

>>15857816
The remaining engines simply throttle up to 1000% of nominal thrust to compensate

[Anonymous No.15857968]

>>15857929
Like all government agencies, their purpose is to generate enough activity to justify an increase in funding. Any impact on society is merely incidental.

[Anonymous No.15857971]

>>15857962
100% of the raptors failed anon.

[Anonymous No.15857985]

common sense schizo put out a poll, vote!
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxF6mrNdH6ZN6jEtZygpXN49YnWIFtB9lf

[Anonymous No.15857987]

>>15857971
nope :)

[Anonymous No.15857992]

>>15857985
What level of mental illness do I need in order to simultaneously:
>want to see someone fail
>think they won't succeed
>not want to see them try
?

[Anonymous No.15858000]

>>15857985
>who knows who he's paid off in the meantime to pull this stunt a second time

Well I'm sure the government have charged him extortionate fees yes

[Anonymous No.15858001]

Chris Davenport says license soon

[Anonymous No.15858008]

>>15858001
I heard the fish wildlife service has decided to postpone the license until 2024

[Anonymous No.15858015]

>>15858001
Also just heard they discovered a rare endangered fish and Boca chica will have to cease operations indefinitely

[Anonymous No.15858019]

>>15857992
stage 4 EDS

[Anonymous No.15858022]

>>15857992
Musk Derangment Syndrome lol

Not only do they wish for failure, they've been doing everything they can to stall at regulatory process by asking regulators to stop SpaceX. The faggot was in one of the FCC commentary writing his letters

[Anonymous No.15858029]

>>15858001
>soon
codespeak for TWO WEEKS

[Anonymous No.15858030]

Neutron pad under construction

https://x.com/rocketlab/status/1724530751952306201?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

[Anonymous No.15858033]

>>15858001
I heard that Aerith dies in FFVII.

[Anonymous No.15858047]

>>15858030
More spacious compared to starship launch pad

[Anonymous No.15858080]

>>15857971
this terrifies me

[Anonymous No.15858086]

>>15858001
it cant laumch wothout licenze

[Anonymous No.15858088]

>>15858030
Rocket lab could stomp elon. Mr becknis doing everything right

[Anonymous No.15858117]

#beckbackers
we need to get another fws review on starship

[Anonymous No.15858134]

>>15858117
Tell me what I need to do

[Anonymous No.15858155]

>>15858134
write a hand written letter to every poltitician you can find and email thunderfoot videos to them if they ask for proof

[Anonymous No.15858170]

>>15857780
LOL those concrete chunks getting shot 200 meter in the air.

[Anonymous No.15858174]

>>15858086
It can launch without license though. There's nothing physically preventing that.

[Anonymous No.15858177]

>>15857962
yes it did. Count the engines in the footage again I guess.

[Anonymous No.15858178]

>>15858174
What are they going to do, shoot it down?

[Anonymous No.15858183]

>>15857861
NASA is doing to try to cancel it and Congress is going to destroy the entire budget to funnel money into do-nothing "MSR" jobs in California

[Anonymous No.15858185]

>>15857782
I just need to get through this week...

[Anonymous No.15858223]

>aerospace company
>not a big player in space
>has the money to buy ULA

It's not L3Harris so who else could it be?

[Anonymous No.15858225]

space is hard.

[Anonymous No.15858229]

[Anonymous No.15858232]

>>15858223
>bald_man_who_can't_reach_orbit_injecting_TRT_with_bimbo_wife_in_a_golf_cart.jpg

[Anonymous No.15858234]

>>15858232
BO was already one of the three potential buyers.

[Anonymous No.15858237]

>>15858177
6 engines failed before the avionics got fried, the rest were blown up when the Booster finally broke apart over 40 seconds after the FTS charges went off.

[Anonymous No.15858243]

new thunderf00t is out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZeB7SwmkiQ

[Anonymous No.15858245]

>>15858223
>>15858232
>>15858234
Blue makes the most sense. There's really no way that any other company is going to buy ULA and then put themselves at the mercy of Blue Origin's engine production cadence while being the competitor of Blue where any launch they do takes away from Blue itself.

ULA hooking its fate to Blue via the engine, which is the single most important part of the entire rocket stack, is by far, one of the dumbest fucking decisions any rocket company could have ever made.

I would be surprised if the buyer wasn't Blue.

[Anonymous No.15858247]

where is the FUCKING license?
launch in 2 and a half days and still no license

[Anonymous No.15858248]

>>15858237
>before the avionics got fried

You don't know when it was that the fire cut off the controls.

[Anonymous No.15858249]

>>15858245
The question was who was the third potential buyer, not BO or the equity group.

[Anonymous No.15858255]

>>15858249
Does it matter who the third potential buyer is? Is it worth to the 3rd potential buyer to hitch their ride to Blue's?

[Anonymous No.15858256]

>https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/11/sale-of-united-launch-alliance-is-nearing-its-end-with-three-potential-buyers/
> The space company owned by Jeff Bezos has been rumored to be among the potential buyers for a while. Although there is some overlap between their launch plans, acquiring United Launch Alliance would give Bezos an orbital rocket and the guaranteed government contracts he covets. It would also benefit Amazon's need to launch its Project Kuiper satellites.
So at this point, because of Bezos Bucks, Blue Origin is basically guaranteed to be the final buyer of ULA. It doesn't matter what resources the other two potential (not)buyers have. Jeff's seething from a lack of building his own orbital rocket is now going after the already-made rocket company. I'd bet everything that back when Jeff realized that he can't throw money at people and magically get a rocket, he started getting buddy-buddy with Tory, who was freshly installed CEO of ULA. Shortly after Tory started as CEO, him and Jeff signed the BE-4 agreement for Vulcan. Nine years ago. Now that they have been best friends for a while, Jeff has been dangling a huge pile of cash in front of Tory for years in attempts to buy ULA. He's finally found his price.

So that means Jeff Who will finally have his own working rocket. What the hell is going to happen with Bezos at the helm of ULA? It honestly scares me.

[Anonymous No.15858259]

>>15858256
>Jeff has been dangling a huge pile of cash in front of Tory for years in attempts to buy ULA. He's finally found his price.
Tory isn't the one that Jeff has to give money to

[Anonymous No.15858264]

>>15858259
>Tory isn't the one that Jeff has to give money to
Oh of course. Jeff found Tory's price, who then went to work on convincing Boeing and Lockheed to sell the company. Jeff's pockets go DEEP, and he just dangles money in front of one person after the next. He just needed a way to slither into the company.

[Anonymous No.15858277]

>>15857787
millions of ocelots were killed

[Anonymous No.15858278]

>>15858256
Dude just bought a rocket company. What have you done with your life?

[Anonymous No.15858280]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/10/nasa-tool-bag-dropped-by-astronauts-international-space-station/71536725007/
>Somewhere hurtling more than 200 miles above the planet's surface is one of Earth's newest satellites: a tool bag, and it's possible you might be able to spot it with a telescope or good pair of binoculars if you know where to look.
>The white, satchel-like tool bag slipped away from two astronauts during a rare, all-female spacewalk Nov. 1 as they performed maintenance on the International Space Station, according to social media posts on X, formerly Twitter, from scientists and other experts familiar with the situation.
>While there's no official word whether the tool bag contained a 10 mm socket wrench, the bag was spotted floating over Mount Fuji last week by Japanese astronaut Satoshi Furukawa. Now space junk, it has since been cataloged with the ID 58229 / 1998-067WC.

Space sisters... we got too cocky...

[Anonymous No.15858298]

>>15858248
Yup, we do. It's the moment the whole stack destabilizes into a side slip.

[Anonymous No.15858302]

>>15858280
>The white, satchel-like tool bag slipped away from two astronauts during a rare, all-female spacewalk

Woman moment. I am 100% certain that shit had a lanyard on it to tether to your spacesuit but they are too fucking useless to use it.

[Anonymous No.15858310]

>>15858278
Shitpost on a South Pacific Coral farming forum.

[Anonymous No.15858317]

Buran > Starship

[Anonymous No.15858324]

>>15858317
commie

[Anonymous No.15858333]

>>15858247
Protecting fish from rockets is hard. Small indie government org, please understand

[Anonymous No.15858340]

>>15858280
(artist's impression)

[Anonymous No.15858343]

>>15858333
>Protecting fish from rockets
higher chance of a fish drowning than being hit by a rocket,
man I hate these dope smoking minimum waged 100k in student debts leftoid scum
I will be there collecting tears when SS gets to orbit

[Anonymous No.15858350]

>>15858340
top kek

[Anonymous No.15858375]

>>15858278
Managed to not lose tens of billions because I haven't cheated on my wife with an incredibly mid weather reporter

[Anonymous No.15858400]

>>15857769
The hot staging will burn the booster top to the point of structural failure after a few subsequent flights.

[Anonymous No.15858406]

>>15858400
why would it ever touch the booster, when they can easily and almost instantly swap out that ring if it's getting busted?

[Anonymous No.15858408]

>>15858406
not that easy

[Anonymous No.15858412]

>>15858408
…in ring swappetry

[Anonymous No.15858413]

>>15858223
BAE wasn’t satisfied with just Ball. They need launch vehicles too

[Anonymous No.15858421]

>>15858408
in what, hot stagery?

[Anonymous No.15858425]

Question. For hot staging why not cut superheavy engines so it's all ballistic now, release starship clamps, superheavy uses its thrusters to push itself off to the side and now starship can fire raptors into clear air? Seems much less failure prone than shitting raptors directly onto the roof of superheavy. Superheavy must have the thrusters anyway just like a F9 booster does surely?

[Anonymous No.15858426]

>>15858406
Even then the ring and the vacuum raptors will crash more often than not.
Here is why:
During boosting the booster must continously pitch down hard to compensate the top lift caused by the retarded flaps of the Starship. That pitch will suddenly cease at sep, which must happen with the booster engines off, so no compensation at the bottom. The thin air and the high airspeed will be enough to lift starship's front flaps up.

Screencap this.

[Anonymous No.15858430]

>>15858425
yeah thats basically what they were trying to do the first time.

[Anonymous No.15858431]

>>15858425
The booster has more mass and alot of inertia. It could ram the top stage which to make things worse is subject to aerodynamic lift.

[Anonymous No.15858434]

>>15858425
>>15858431
This and also whenever you're on a ballistic trajectory you're losing velocity and anything you lose you have to make back up so it hits extra hard. I think Elon said you get something like a 10% payload capacity increase if you just hot stage instead of doing something that requires a ballistic trajectory (a significant period of time without engines firing).

[Anonymous No.15858435]

>>15858425
Because then Superheavy would be accelerated upwards in the direction of the still-very-close Starship. Raptors can only gimbal so much. The original plan was to do something close to this, but to add enough rotation before seperation so that the two craft would move safely apart before ignition

[Anonymous No.15858454]

>>15858425
Imagine hot staging the Saturn V

They used a ballistic coast after meco2, retrorockets and ullage motors to guarantee a clean separation

[Anonymous No.15858459]

>>15858302
but they needed both hands to take the selfie

[Anonymous No.15858461]

>>15857782
Let's fucking goo

[Anonymous No.15858464]

>>15858408
in kikery

[Anonymous No.15858467]

>>15857782
Its picrel

[Anonymous No.15858482]

>>15858454
I hot staged a man's balls in my mouth whilst he was moaning and his dick pulsing.

[Anonymous No.15858488]

>>15857797
It is possible that the failure rate could be reduced with ritualistic human sacrifice? If so how many sacrifices would we need to get the risk of mission failure below 1 in 10,000?

[Anonymous No.15858492]

>>15857782
it is what it is

[Anonymous No.15858498]

>>15858223
Could be Leidos. Dynetics has done work with ULA in the past.

[Anonymous No.15858499]

>>15857780
>>15858170
Good god what I would give to be a fly on the wall in that control room
The number of alarms and straight panic from the tards at the computers as the pad was being nuked would have been a sight to behold.

[Anonymous No.15858506]

>>15858488
All africans and continental asians need to go before any measurable effect appears. It's like tome dilation, you have to commit super hard to notice any effect but it quickly accelerates after that

[Anonymous No.15858509]

>>15858488
One per engine is the going rate for the engine gods to bless the launch I believe.

[Anonymous No.15858529]

>>15858492
this is unironically what the booster will look like before stage separation. screen capture if you like. I will 100% be vindicated on this.

[Anonymous No.15858539]

>>15858498
NOOOOOOOOO
t. antarctica anon

[Anonymous No.15858542]

>>15858539
Yeah, I've heard zero good things about their managment, but putting Dyentics' limited space business under ULA's roof could lead to interesting things.

[Anonymous No.15858549]

>>15858539
>t. antarctica anon
Shouldn't you be getting eaten by the thing rignt now?

[Anonymous No.15858560]

mars by 2040 is the earliest realistic time. its sad that zubrin will pass without ever seeing it happen. and even musk will be pushing the upper age limit of practically being able to go. especially if he developes health problems.

[Anonymous No.15858586]

>>15858560
He will just go anyway

[Anonymous No.15858590]

>>15858560
>2040
More like never
We will collapse before then
WW3 any day now

[Anonymous No.15858593]

>>15857782
hey guys, i guess thats it

[Anonymous No.15858600]

I had to pee like 6 times today

[Anonymous No.15858601]

>>15858593
>hey guys, i guess thats it
Elons last words after starship nukes the launch complex

[Anonymous No.15858602]

>launch date still at the 17th
Did they get the license or not?

[Anonymous No.15858603]

>>15858600
Get diabetes check anon

[Anonymous No.15858605]

>>15858602
Elon is basically forcing them to issue the license.

[Anonymous No.15858609]

>>15858600
>>15858603
is that a lot or little?

[Anonymous No.15858616]

>>15858492

[Anonymous No.15858621]

>add an alarm for this wednesday
>nextspaceflight has removed starship YOU SAID TWO WEEKS, /g/

[Anonymous No.15858622]

>>15858621
>/g/

[Anonymous No.15858623]

>>15858605
If you know anything about beauracrats, this is the worst thing you can possibly do. All this kind of shit does is make them butthurt that you are challenging their authority and makes them dig their heels in as retaliation to fuck you over. On the bright side this makes it more likely that it's happening because everyone who deals with beauracrat niggers knows this shit.

[Anonymous No.15858628]

I think it's pretty cool that SpaceX is launching from three locations within 12 hours. I guess the launch control staff just have to stay glued in their chairs all night.

[Anonymous No.15858632]

>>15858609
that's alot for just the day unless your a cyclist or something

[Anonymous No.15858642]

>>15858632
you might be a faggot then

[Anonymous No.15858644]

>>15858642
you might be american then

[Anonymous No.15858653]

>>15858506
>tome dilation

[Anonymous No.15858671]

>>15858243
>roadster to no where
But it was the roadster that literally built the company

[Anonymous No.15858681]

>>15857780
What was this thing that went flying after it finally started lifting? It had some good hangtime

[Anonymous No.15858684]

Why doesn't Elon shut his mouth and suck on Biden's ballsack? He keeps kicking the hornets nest. If he wants to launch so bad he needs to shape up

[Anonymous No.15858685]

>>15858529
I could see Elon making that happen just for the lulz.

[Anonymous No.15858686]

>>15858243
isn't he a little late to the party here? is it really 2018 TESLAQ FUD-posting time again?

[Anonymous No.15858687]

>>15858684
because you were already sucking on it, anon

[Anonymous No.15858689]

>>15858684
Biden is less popular than Trump, no point in making friends with a loser

[Anonymous No.15858691]

>>15858684
Elon's end goal is preserving the light (skin color) of human civilization. Embracing gay brown communism or sucking up to corrupt fossils is counter to everything he's working for.

[Anonymous No.15858694]

>>15857826
I haven't seen any, but you'd think they'd set some up for this next flight to see how the deluge system performs, and at the very least for the production of iconic kino

[Anonymous No.15858698]

>Was just informed that approval to launch should happen in time for a Friday launch
>should
>should
>should

[Anonymous No.15858699]

>>15858698
Funding secured!

[Anonymous No.15858716]

>>15858698
I already called off work and made a hotel reservation

[Anonymous No.15858719]

>>15858178
I wonder if it would get picked up by NORAD and flagged as an icbm, not to mention any other nations early warning system.

[Anonymous No.15858720]

launch license is in
check faa

[Anonymous No.15858721]

>>15858681
Ocelot beetle turtle nest

[Anonymous No.15858728]

>>15858720
no flight until Fish and Wildlife gives the all clear.

[Anonymous No.15858731]

>>15858720
no one who works for the federal government is working this late

[Anonymous No.15858732]

>>15858689
From a populist's perspective, maybe; but the populace doesn't hold much sway over the government's intent or actions which is obvious if you've been paying attention any time in the past, uhh... century? at least a whole century. OTOH, the biden administration holds a fair amount of control over multiple regulatory and legal bodies. The FAA and F&WS somewhat, but much more overtly with the FBI (Jan. 6 roundups, multiple trump probes including previous failed impeachment, etc.) and ESPECIALLY with the DoJ. The insane amount of - often completely frivolous - litigation they've been saddling Musk with for the past 2-3 years is glaring or perhaps even glowing proof. The plainly unlawful suit over not hiring non-ITAR-compliant immigrants at SpaceX which had the gall to suggest halting all operations at SpaceX for the duration of the lawsuit, and then clear bias with Boing! and Below Orbitgin sueing for and winning gibsmedats (Starliner getting extra money despite firm fixed-price, HLS being turned over to Blue Moon after Artemis IV) are pretty relevant and you should have heard of at least THOSE three lawsuits if you pay any real attention to spaceflight news.

I'm trying to stay on topic here but there's also the numerous DoJ actions against Tesla to consider; the biden minecraft admin is very opposed to musk and openly wields the Department of Justice as a weapon against his companies. I really hate how much even private spaceflight gets infested with politics.

>>15858223
>in aerospace sector
>not a big player in space
>has a lot of money

sounds exactly like blue origin.

[Anonymous No.15858735]

IFT-3 when?

[Anonymous No.15858736]

>>15858735
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15858756]

>>15858735
Right after IFT-2. They'll launch it in steam cloud of the previous launch so FWS doesn't notice

[Anonymous No.15858760]

>>15858732
>words words words
didnt read, shut up

[Anonymous No.15858761]

>>15858684
How have you not learned after all these years that conceding to these people never works. Nothing you do will ever be enough for them. They want your destruction, so they will always demand more of you until it kills you.

[Anonymous No.15858764]

[Anonymous No.15858765]

>>15857759
Say SpaceX but without the Spa.

[Anonymous No.15858767]

>>15858732
Coup the US gov with PMCs Elon, do it

[Anonymous No.15858768]

>>15858765
quick mods are asleep, post /sfg/-relevant non-GR5-breaking spaceflight images

[Anonymous No.15858770]

>>15858768
The defined back of a camel

[Anonymous No.15858794]

LICENSE DAY

[Anonymous No.15858796]

>>15858794
Two more weeks backshit

[Anonymous No.15858797]

>>15857787
In absolute awe of its power

[Anonymous No.15858818]

>>15858719
noticed and tagged? sure. But unlike what doomerbro hysterics like to imagine a singular anomaly flying around does not immediately generate a full force response. Specially as you can tell what its trajectory is

[Anonymous No.15858821]

>>15858684
no point. Trying to appease aggressors never works, it only emboldens them to further continue stomping you

[Anonymous No.15858871]

>>15858821
Ding ding ding

[Anonymous No.15858873]

>>15858684
He ain't a fag like ya

[Anonymous No.15858900]

you and me? we are not so different

[Anonymous No.15858903]

https://youtu.be/JLjR23twwDE
easter bunny posted a new video

[Anonymous No.15858909]

>>15857852
NSF has fallen...

[Anonymous No.15858911]

>>15857893
Damn that's rough. I remember me and my mates got into a fight with some cocksucker low IQ bullies in middle school, I wrecked one cunt so bad he had fractures around an eye and was unable to see out of that eye without extensive hospital care. He didn't stop his ways and jumped some poor dude in the yard and gave him brain damage a year or so later.

[Anonymous No.15858913]

>>15858684
Spaceflight has blackpilled me so much on how much corruption there is in the world

[Anonymous No.15858959]

[Anonymous No.15858975]

relax elon

[Anonymous No.15859014]

>>15858975
NOOOO YOU CANT JUST LANCH 3 DIFFERENT ROCKETS ON THE SAME DAY!!!! THATS ILLEGAL

[Anonymous No.15859023]

>>15858975
You can't launch 3 rockets in one day

[Anonymous No.15859030]

>>15859023
You cant just shoot a hole into the surface of Mars
-joe biden

[Anonymous No.15859040]

>>15858975
lol, launch control dudes are going to have a tough day

[Anonymous No.15859043]

GAAN STATUS: WE

[Anonymous No.15859044]

>>15859043
NO. FUCKING. LICENSE!
TRY AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS NUPOOPA KEEEEEEK

[Anonymous No.15859047]

>>15859040
Do they still only have the single mission control room?

[Anonymous No.15859049]

>>15859043
We are going

[Anonymous No.15859053]

What is more difficult, converting an electric vehicle into a lunar rover or making it from scratch?

[Anonymous No.15859055]

It's getting crowded in Megabay

[Anonymous No.15859060]

>>15859055
>dominoes.webm

[Anonymous No.15859062]

>>15859055
How do they expect to build thousands of ships if they can barely store 5?

[Anonymous No.15859067]

>>15859062
They don't need to build thousands of them if they are flying

[Anonymous No.15859083]

>>15859067
but they SAY they will build thousands.

[Anonymous No.15859085]

>>15859083
Maybe in the next century.

[Barkun No.15859090]

>>15859085
We went from Hebrew to imperfect languages, now look back at the image and what do we know, what can we speak? Here's a good puzzle which may let you know the part you need to advance an era of tech.

[Anonymous No.15859091]

>>15859085
I personally suspect they will build enough starships for a starlinkv3 mega constellation and some moon missions, plus maybe a few mars missions in the 40's if NASA pays, but ultimately they will move on to an even larger rocket than starship for the ultimate mars colonization. Unfortunately I can see the future and development of the massive ship will not be complete before Musk's death, then SpaceX will never fully complete it and instantly morph into an oldpsace grift company.

[Anonymous No.15859093]

>>15859053
what is there to convert on a skateboard chassis?
replace tires and bolt on seats

[Anonymous No.15859107]

licence will be public in a few hours
t. knower

[Anonymous No.15859134]

>>15859107
NURASCALS WILL FALL FOR THIS AGAIN, AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.15859138]

https://www.faa.gov/data_research/commercial_space_data
FAA switched to some weird web interface that precludes direct linking to pages. Thanks Obama.

[Anonymous No.15859153]

>>15859138
we are so back

[Anonymous No.15859188]

>>15859053
cybertruck will never be a lunar rover

[Anonymous No.15859207]

>>15859153
kestrelchads... Our time.. IS NOW.

[Anonymous No.15859231]

What time did FAA publish the first license?

[Anonymous No.15859233]

>>15859231
5:50 PM (some mutt timezone) according to anon and berger was saying it was gonna come 3:30 PM (some mutt timezone) that day

[Anonymous No.15859236]

>>15858080
sorry meant to reply to this
>>15858033

[Anonymous No.15859243]

>>15858340

[Anonymous No.15859252]

>>15857985
Even if he thinks starship is exactly the same as the N1 (lol), why would he assume the exact same exact form of failure would happen on the second test?
Does he believe in fate or something?

[Anonymous No.15859259]

>>15859252
he just thinks having that many engines on a rocket means it will always fail, its the same fud people were saying about falcon heavy. vibration modes are a problem and probably havent been fully explored yet on superheavy, but they can probably all be fixed.

[Anonymous No.15859261]

https://www.faa.gov/data_research/commercial_space_data

[Anonymous No.15859265]

>>15859259
>>15859252
thunderf00t thinks the only reason superheavy uses 33 engines instead of one big one is that SpaceX are incompetent and cant develope a big engine

[Anonymous No.15859267]

>>15859252
There is no thought behind it. Its a NPC loop that only knows past data and cannot understand anything beyond it.

[Anonymous No.15859273]

TURN ON TWITTER
LICENSE GRANTED
WE GAAN

[Anonymous No.15859282]

License just flew over my house

[Anonymous No.15859287]

LICENSE DAY

[Barkun No.15859288]

>>15859287
I CANT SEE

[Anonymous No.15859289]

Its actually fucking over
https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/babin-lucas-introduce-commercial-space-bill/


https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/white-house-reveals-its-mission-authorization-plan-for-novel-space-activities/

The DOC now has authority over every american in space and missions outside the atmosphere
Planetary protection cucks won

[Anonymous No.15859290]

>>15859289
The OST needs to be burned

[Anonymous No.15859294]

>>15859289
Haha you now need approval if you want to colonize another planet :))))

[Anonymous No.15859295]

>>15859289
It's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.15859297]

Not a small single dime of Starlink profit is going to subhuman earther investoids. All to mars.

[Anonymous No.15859299]

>>15858488
Yes according to a few Biblical stories

[Anonymous No.15859302]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1724789333541216441?t=gtMJxWhmQm8RZ1FzCR4Lyg&s=19

[Anonymous No.15859303]

>>15859289
good. we shouldnt colonize mars unless its proven without a shadow of a doubt that its not already inhabited.

[Anonymous No.15859304]

>>15859295
>It's a good thing
Its not
Ptivate human spaceflight is dead now basically

[Anonymous No.15859306]

>>15859302
will not invest.

[Anonymous No.15859307]

>>15859302
If starlink went public i would put every dollar i had in it

[Anonymous No.15859310]

>>15859265
remember that time thunderfag said the Falcon 9 is "basically a redstone rocket that burns methane"? I smile every time I think about that (retards are funny)

[Anonymous No.15859312]

>>15859297
I certainly hope so

[Anonymous No.15859313]

>>15859273
Sauce faggot

[Anonymous No.15859318]

>>15859313
My sauce is twitter.c

[Anonymous No.15859320]

>>15859303
I also believe we should completely sterilize Mars, just to be sure

[Anonymous No.15859322]

>>15859320
>sterilize
Our germs would murder them anyway

[Anonymous No.15859323]

>>15859289
How will this stop non-american novel space activities?

[Barkun No.15859326]

>>15859313
Yes I alone do know this too but I do not have the hand crafted and still good optional gestalt. Gestalt are good things.

[Anonymous No.15859329]

>>15859323
They simply won't exist

[Barkun No.15859330]

>>15859326
The.hot heads are Always trying to get meds to you. Keep an eye out. Be ready to spend time.

[Anonymous No.15859333]

>>15859289
>DOT currently licenses space launch and Earth reentry. Now it would also regulate in-space transportation for delivering goods from one point to another in space, including delivering fuel from a space fuel depot to a space station, and to/from the lunar surface.
This part kills orbital refueling
Every single tanker launch will require a mountain of paperwork and delays

[Anonymous No.15859334]

>>15859302
Holy fuck this glows. Elon has stated Starlink will single handily fund SpaceX and all his failures in and of itself.

[Anonymous No.15859335]

>>15859302
Why would they spin Starlink off?
It's the biggest revenue engine they have ever created, what good would it do to make it subject to shareholders demands?

[Barkun No.15859336]

>>15859326
Med important. Crucial parts missing. Impossible but not with your own morality. There's a way to do anything. Might not be simple.

[Barkun No.15859345]

>>15859336
Stop thinking about philosophy. Though it is the field of all fields, all fields equalize. Refresh yourself in this sense. Do regular resets. Etc.

[Anonymous No.15859347]

Can mods permaban this spambot already

[Anonymous No.15859348]

TODAY IS THE DAY

[Anonymous No.15859350]

>>15857759

[Barkun No.15859353]

>>15859336
Coding is a field. You have a wrong idea about the coding field. Codes are craft in many shapes and sizes. More than just strings or functions.

[Anonymous No.15859354]

>>15859323
china will run laps around us and we will do nothing to stop it.

[Barkun No.15859355]

They are on the shit(taken seriously, in and above all insulting jokes; quite respectful; some jokes) side of things. Codes belong to you, and that's their life equality. They have a comeback joke.

[Anonymous No.15859356]

>>15859289
There wasn't enough bureaucracy for them already?

[Barkun No.15859358]

>>15859355
It can all be done on the body using lethal methods if you want this skill influx at all. It's probably too far fetched but it does express the emancipation of all life very well. I'm glad I said it to you.

[Anonymous No.15859359]

>>15859289
>china can still do whatever they want
What's the point

[Barkun No.15859361]

I'm a faggot

[Anonymous No.15859364]

Hey jannies hope you enjoy all these violates us law reports
Do your fucking job and earn your pay for once

[Barkun No.15859366]

gonna go to the gay bar now cya guys

[Anonymous No.15859381]

>>15859364
they earn $0 annually

[Anonymous No.15859384]

Friday is like in 48 hours. We should have a launch then.

[Anonymous No.15859388]

Friday road closure status has been changed to "scheduled".

[Anonymous No.15859394]

>>15857861
Plot twist: NASA goes ALL IN on Starship to leapfrog everyone in space by 5 decades.

[Anonymous No.15859395]

>>15859388
Changed from what. Planned?

[Anonymous No.15859400]

>>15859348
the pic actually goes so hard.

he's dressed up like a weirdo because he feels like he doesnt belong anywhere so joined a strange subculture for a feeling of belonging. Look at the pain in his eyes. He knows humans will never colonize the galaxy because most are dumb apes, and that life is ultimately pointless.

[Anonymous No.15859417]

WHOLE FWS STUDY

https://www.faa.gov/media/72786
https://www.faa.gov/media/72791
https://www.faa.gov/media/72796
https://www.faa.gov/media/72766
https://www.faa.gov/media/72781

[Anonymous No.15859419]

>>15859417
>https://www.faa.gov/media/72786
i love piping plovers so much its unreal. im glad they delayed spacex for this.

[Anonymous No.15859424]

>>15859417
literal birdwatching and that's it wtf

[Anonymous No.15859429]

>>15859417
Does anyone actually care about these documents? Seems to me like pointless job.

[Anonymous No.15859442]

>>15859429
>>15859424
>t. birdhaters

[Anonymous No.15859445]

>>15859442
FUCK birds, they have it coming

[Anonymous No.15859447]

>>15859417
>Conclusion:
>Deluge systems are widely used and have proven effective at other rocket launch pads around the world. The operation of the deluge system at the SpaceX Boca Chica Launch Site would help mitigate the impacts of Starship-Super Heavy Operations by reducing sound waves and vibrations, assist in cooling and fire suppression, and provide protection to the launch pad and other equipment. A new foundation and a steel plate were installed underneath the launch mount to reduce debris scatter and the potential for a large dust cloud. Some water applied during the operaton of the deluge system could reach the surrounding landscape and may cause vegetation changes. However, the amount of water that is expected to escape the VLA is likely to be less than the amount of water released on this area from an average rainfall event; therefore, it is not expected to change the salinity of the existing mud flats or significantly reduce or modify piping plover or red knot habitat.

We are so fucking back

[Anonymous No.15859451]

[Anonymous No.15859452]

>>15859417
>the plover's say they're cool with it
thank you plovers

[Anonymous No.15859454]

>>15859451
>impact area extends into the sovereign state of Mexico

[Anonymous No.15859455]

LETS GOOOOOO

https://www.faa.gov/media/72766

[Anonymous No.15859457]

THE TIMING IS LINING UP

[Anonymous No.15859458]

[Anonymous No.15859460]

>>15859417
>A MUSK WALKED UP TO AN FAA STAND AND HE SAID TO THE MAN, RUNNING THE STAND
>HEY
BUM BUM BUM
>GOT ANY LICENSE?
>NOT YET MUSK, THERE'S STILL FISH IN THE BAY, WE'RE OLD, LOW ON STAFF, AND NOW ALL UNDERPAID, HOW BOUT' YOU LET IT GO
>HOW ABOUT NO
>THEN HE TWEETED ALL DAY
>TWITTER TWITTER
>THEN HE TWEETED ALL DAY
TWITTER TWITTER
>THEN HE TWEETED ALL DAY
TWITTER TWITTER
>TO THE FAA
BUM BUM BUM BUMB BU BU BUM

[Anonymous No.15859462]

>>15859335
huge influx of cash at once and he can basically wash his hands of it at that point and let it run itself. Effectively he'd be selling it off.

[Anonymous No.15859463]

>>15859458
beautiful. kind of sad that some billionaire stole their habitat.

[Anonymous No.15859465]

>>15859458

[Anonymous No.15859470]

>>15859455
Could've told ya that without an $1 million inquiry

[Anonymous No.15859473]

>>15859465
FTS-1 debris caught to leg of poor birb

[Anonymous No.15859474]

uh oh

[Anonymous No.15859475]

>>15859470
I could've eliminated the bird issue with $100 worth of birdshot and a free weekend.

[Anonymous No.15859476]

>>15859474
It's over. 2024 it is

[Anonymous No.15859477]

>>15859474
hot staging again?

[Anonymous No.15859479]

>>15859474
what are we watching them do here?

[Anonymous No.15859480]

>>15859479
Taking the booster apart.

[Anonymous No.15859485]

>>15859480
Ring by ring

[Anonymous No.15859490]

>>15859447
>studies concludes what i and everyone with with a cursory interest in ecology was saying from day one.
WOW WE DEFINETLY NEEDED TO DELAY 2 MONTHS FOR THIS SHIT!
I fucking love nature but some of these agencies make me want to scratch my eyes out, they’re actively lowering their public opinion with this stupid ant-fucking behaviour.

[Anonymous No.15859495]

so do we have the license or not?

[Anonymous No.15859498]

Personally, I am going to be nuking every one of his posts with his wrong predictions about FWS evaluation time since I have a xeeter account.

[Anonymous No.15859501]

>>15859495
FWS is done. FAA might need two more months to think about it

[Anonymous No.15859502]

>>15859495
no. it wont be issued until after the government shutdown.

[Anonymous No.15859505]

>>15859502
they passed a stopgap. no shutdown on the 17th

[Anonymous No.15859506]

>berger has a new book coming out next year
how does one write so much?

[Anonymous No.15859508]

>>15859506
By having other people write it for you

[Anonymous No.15859511]

>>15859508
ghostwriting is fraud

[Anonymous No.15859512]

>>15859511
its not a ghost, its *AI*

[Anonymous No.15859515]

>>15859498
hello dabisbad

[Anonymous No.15859516]

>>15859495
Two more weeks until license is issued, nucucks will deny this truth

[Anonymous No.15859519]

>>15859490
You should read Zubrin's book The Case for Nukes and see how bad it can get. The NRC has extinguished new reactor construction for DECADES because no one can fund a project through fifteen years of paperwork before seeing a return.

[Anonymous No.15859521]

>>15859455
The redditors are gonna be PISSED

[Anonymous No.15859522]

>>15859506
he probably originally set out to write one book about the entire F9 program, but realized he had enough material for two and split out the early days into Liftoff

[Anonymous No.15859528]

Reddit seethe screenshot good, linking reddit threads unironically bad.

[Anonymous No.15859530]

>>15859521
>treated water sewage
So, it's water?

[Anonymous No.15859534]

>>15859530
Former dinosaur piss, yes.

[Anonymous No.15859535]

>>15859530
it's freshwater being dumped in a hypersensitive hypersaline environment, killing all the fish and wildlife in sight

[Anonymous No.15859537]

>>15859535
Quick, salt the earth there! For the environment!

[Anonymous No.15859538]

>>15859535
mass extinction every rainfall

[Anonymous No.15859540]

https://twitter.com/FutureJurvetson/status/1724538759545581683

Steve Jurvetson and Apollo 16 astronaut Charlie Duke interview

[Anonymous No.15859541]

>>15859519
>hey we have these glowing rocks with 6 orders of magnitude higher practical energy density than any chemical, and that can fuel everything and provide abundant energy with literally no CO2 output and pitiful amounts of waste that can be stored forever in rock coffins.
>should we use it?
>no let's play a game of chicken with renewables instead because glowy green rocks scare me.
normalfags take everything good and turn it to dust.

[Anonymous No.15859543]

>>15859519
Fukishima cleanup costs $150 billion

[Anonymous No.15859546]

>>15859535
can't they just add salt to the deluge water lol?

[Anonymous No.15859552]

>>15859541
It's nice on paper but when you consider how much nuclear accidents costs and that they are inevitable nuclear become uneconomical

[Anonymous No.15859553]

>>15859546
anon...please.

[Anonymous No.15859555]

>>15859552
just don't have accidents. simple as

[Anonymous No.15859559]

>>15859552
>and that they are inevitable
yes that's why france has given up on nuclear energy and it's not powering most of their grid causing them to be one of the most environmentally friendly large energy grids of the world.
right?

[Anonymous No.15859562]

>>15859552
Cope. Nuclear reactors can be made that don't melt down. Big Oil ruins everything they touch

[Anonymous No.15859564]

>>15859543
Japan doesn't use PWRs or other safe forms of reactor like the US does.

>>15859552
silence, Jew

[Anonymous No.15859565]

>>15859541
They hate nuclear because it's an obstacle to their degrowth plan.

[Anonymous No.15859566]

>>15859562
>Nuclear reactors can be made that don't melt down.
Example?

[Anonymous No.15859576]

>>15859566
Below a critical volumetric power density in the reactor core, the self heating from fission product decay isn't enough to damage reactor fuel rods.
Other designs exist which also achieve total passive safety through different means, such a using a low temperature liquid fuel that can automatically drain into a passively cooled holding tank in an emergency.

[Anonymous No.15859579]

Frogfag about to get BTFO, license time is soon bros.

[Anonymous No.15859580]

>>15859498
please refrain from posting anything about sfg or related to sfg on twitter, we don't want tourists

[Anonymous No.15859581]

>>15859580
Too late :/

[Anonymous No.15859582]

>>15858426
it could go either up or down, that's how bering dynamically unstable works
>>15858431
the empty booster is lighter than the fueled upper stage at booster burnout

[Anonymous No.15859585]

>>15859579
TWO. MORE. WEEKS.

[Anonymous No.15859586]

>>15859576
explain why these reactors aren't used

[Anonymous No.15859595]

>>15859580
>Wow whats sfg
>Look up 4chan
>See no board named sfg
>Welp, can't find it
Case for 99% of xeeters

[Anonymous No.15859599]

>The screenwriters behind this are also behind Dracula Untold, The Last Witch Hunter, Gods of Egypt
how is this a bad thing? those were fun flicks to watch. why is everyone expecting oscar bait?

[Anonymous No.15859600]

>>15859586
NTA but there are no such thing as cutting edge reactor design in the wild. Everything is in research labs.
By the time you get regulator approval to even build a reactor for power generation, it's a decade out of date and might not even get built because economic factors means it doesn't become feasible

[Anonymous No.15859602]

>>15859599
wrong thread?

[Anonymous No.15859604]

>>15859599
>>>/lit/sffg

[Anonymous No.15859608]

>>15859602
i was wondering where my post went

[Anonymous No.15859609]

>>15859600
the reason these reactor aren't used is because noone has figured out how to make them as safe as the usual water reactors. Those breeder reactors where the nuclear fuel is mixed with a molten salt and there is live reprocessing is science fiction.

[Anonymous No.15859610]

speaking of reactor is NASA developing nuclear reactors to replace MMRTGs? We could really use some of those lol.

[Anonymous No.15859612]

MMRTGs have an efficiency of like 2 percent lol. Imagine how big a spacecraft NASA could power if they had a real reactor.

[Anonymous No.15859614]

>>15859581
i know lol that's why I said something

[Anonymous No.15859617]

>>15859485
Are you fucking serious???

[Anonymous No.15859620]

>>15859462
But Starlink is designed to generate 10's to 100's of billions of dollars per year of free cash flow to fund the mars colony with, selling it off for a 1 time cash influx would be the absolute worst thing Musk could do with the revenue engine specifically designed to fund mars

[Anonymous No.15859621]

>>15859617
yes. 2 more weeks at least.

[Anonymous No.15859622]

>>15859552
Yeah wonder why they cost so much. Hmm. Really wonder why. I really fucking wonder. Hmm. Yeah I got nothin!

[Anonymous No.15859624]

>>15859620
well if starlink actually doesnt generate a profit but hes lying about it being profitable, then he can sell it off for a big lump sum, and the people running it can break even forever (or go bankrupt) while feeding spacex money for more satelite launches.

[Anonymous No.15859625]

>>15859538
Yikes...
https://twitter.com/DBegim483/status/1724835409220260146

[Anonymous No.15859627]

>>15859625
grim

[Anonymous No.15859629]

>>15858426
The flaps don't make lift.

[Anonymous No.15859630]

>>15859620
maybe, unless he believes starship is a better revenue engine and a short-term cash influx to get the starship program off the ground quicker will be worth it
also keep in mind that SpaceX legally has to launch competitor sats for other constellations, so advances in the starship program threaten starlink's hold over market

[Anonymous No.15859631]

>>15859625
Which one of you retards is this and why are you trying to ruin /sfg/. The last time this shit happened collagefag posted this to every board and now half of this general is the cancer that is killing /sfg/

[Anonymous No.15859634]

>>15859620
>10's to 100's of billions of dollars per year
They're already projecting ~10B next year. But we'll have to see what the levelized rate is. I suspect ~35B per year by end of this decade

[Anonymous No.15859640]

>>15859624
It'll be profitable if starship works as intended.

>>15859630
>also keep in mind that SpaceX legally has to launch competitor sats for other constellations
SpaceX isn't forced to launch anything
Other constellations may be bound to use SpaceX because there is literally no one else with the turnaround time and the right price but it would be news to me if SpaceX was forced to associate with companies if it really didn't want to.

[Anonymous No.15859643]

>>15859631
You have his name, ask this question on X.

[Anonymous No.15859645]

>>15859634
>of free cash flow
they're not quite there yet, they just had 10b revenue not profit

[Anonymous No.15859647]

>>15859640
>SpaceX isn't forced to launch anything
the anti-competitive lawsuits would come down so fucking hard if SpaceX refused to launch a customer because they were launching a product that competed with Starlink. Particularly if it's Amazon launching Kuiper sats. SpaceX has already launched OneWeb sats.

[Anonymous No.15859651]

>>15859643
Not exposing my account

[Anonymous No.15859652]

>>15859647
The manifest for Starlink alone fills up entire SpaceX launch for the next few decades at the current rate of launch of new starlinks, replacements, handful of few others.

If competition wants launch, they need to register early on and fast, otherwise, it will be booked months/years behind.

[Anonymous No.15859656]

>>15859652
ehh, no worse than if they booked with a spacex competitor

[Anonymous No.15859657]

>>15859610
you mean kilopower?
these are way too under-powered to be useful for anything besides probes and maybe slightly prolonged Apollo style missions (which is exactly what it was designed for)
USNC might develop more reasonably sized reactor by the time Starship becomes operational

[Anonymous No.15859658]

>>15859562
>>15859555
That's what the regulations are for

[Anonymous No.15859659]

>>15859656
Right, if they choose to spend more at competition because they didn't choose to book with SpaceX earlier, its not SpaceX's fault.

[Anonymous No.15859660]

>>15859595
if even 1% gets through, that's too many

[Anonymous No.15859661]

>>15859625
>>15859631
Sorry libtard, it's free speech. Ever heard of it? Only on X

[Anonymous No.15859662]

>>15859586
unironically it's because over regulation makes all of these projects impossible to get off the ground unless you gave a funding source willing to dump billions into your project for a decade

[Anonymous No.15859664]

>>15859625

[Anonymous No.15859665]

>>15857985
So, what happens if this thing gets to orbit? Will he admit he was wrong in that scenario?

[Anonymous No.15859666]

>>15859609
Wrong, faggot.

[Anonymous No.15859667]

>>15859665
why would he do that?

[Anonymous No.15859670]

Reading the old threads, whats this about scat flerfer?

[Anonymous No.15859671]

>>15859610
MMRTGs aren't the issue, Pu-238 availability is. We can replace the plutonium with Am-241 for 4x the mass per watt, and over 4x the lifetime due to slower decay.

[Anonymous No.15859674]

[Anonymous No.15859675]

>>15859617
if you don't know what the hotstaging ring is you need to lurk moar

[Anonymous No.15859676]

>>15859674
O///O

[Anonymous No.15859678]

>>15859674
ACTUALLY BELIEVING BERGER??? KEEEK WHAT IS THIS BACKSISSIES

[Anonymous No.15859679]

>>15859678
how dare you talk about my wife like that

[Anonymous No.15859680]

can someone bring be up to speed with the latest launch date?

[Anonymous No.15859682]

>>15859674
so we're definitely getting it sometime in the next TWO WEEKS

[Anonymous No.15859683]

>>15859665
I guarantee you, even if the flight goes off flawlessly he will pick something whichw as in the flight plan and claim its a failure. For example he will say superheavy not returning to the launch mount and starship smashing into the ocean is embarassing failure

[Anonymous No.15859684]

>>15859680
some will tell you 2 weeks but it's closer to 2 days

[Anonymous No.15859685]

"92% of the of the water would vaporize when engines are on."
Seems like a slight overestimate

[Anonymous No.15859687]

Reevaluation of PEA is out

https://www.faa.gov/media/72816

[Anonymous No.15859691]

>>15859665
The next step is going to be about refuelling, then catching starship, maybe tiles too. And at the end it's going to be "starship is not economically viable and spacex is lying about it being so".

[Anonymous No.15859693]

>>15859664
lmao, what a faggot

[Anonymous No.15859694]

>>15859687
TWO WEEKS SHITTER SWNGTSB2024

[Anonymous No.15859698]

Only one milestone is left

[Anonymous No.15859702]

>>15859693
Whichever one if you this shithead is needs to delete his account now or never post about or on /sfg/ again.

[Anonymous No.15859720]

why
https://twitter.com/ArianeGroup/status/1724843855449665625?t=wXKgxPX0fk24dOUcokDjxA&s=19

[Anonymous No.15859721]

>>15859698
FAA license not approved, and conveniently left off that list

[Anonymous No.15859724]

>>15859490
>WOW WE DEFINETLY NEEDED TO DELAY 2 MONTHS FOR THIS SHIT!
lol, like spacex wouldn't need this time (and more) to get their next fireworks show ready

[Anonymous No.15859726]

>>15859720
uhh, has there been an official announcement that it's getting pushed back past the 2028 Artemis 4 mission or is this a Freudian slip?

[Anonymous No.15859727]

>>15859721
Its on the bottom dumb fuck stop making us overCHADS look bad with your zoomer attention span

[Anonymous No.15859730]

THIRD STARSHIP TOWER

https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1724855724625260890?s=20

[Anonymous No.15859731]

>>15859724
that was only true on the first flight test, they were ready to go 1.5 months ago.

[Anonymous No.15859732]

>>15859730
Where? Cape?

[Anonymous No.15859735]

>>15859732
Check the background, it's Starbase.

[Anonymous No.15859736]

>>15859586
If nuclear energy starts becoming more profitable than non-nuclear energy the government funds the fuck out of them and asks NIMBY shills to throw some glue at paintings and help them REGOOOOOOLATE the nuclear companies until they give up

[Anonymous No.15859739]

>>15859730
ITS OVER!!!

[Anonymous No.15859742]

>The 3.5-acre fire that resulted from the test flight occurred on upland habitat. An assessment of the fire was conducted 22 days after the fire. A single blue crab exoskeleton was observed in the burn area.
This kills the crab

[Anonymous No.15859745]

>>15859727
So it is :)

[Anonymous No.15859747]

>>15859730
ILLEGAL

[Anonymous No.15859749]

>>15859742
>A single blue crab exoskeleton was observed in the burn area.
sorry starship is cancelled

[Anonymous No.15859757]

>>15859417
>https://www.faa.gov/media/72786
tankwatcher autism pales in comparison to wildlife watcher autism

[Anonymous No.15859758]

>>15859726
my guess was that they were talking about when its fully completed. the first elements of gateway should be up long before 2030.

[Anonymous No.15859761]

>>15859670
soience goylem poster had a meltdown and started dumping his scat porn folder

[Anonymous No.15859764]

can someone give me a straight answer on if the launch is happening on Firday?

[Anonymous No.15859765]

>>15859761
that's annoying. hoping the cia janny makes sure to keep censoring his posts.

[Anonymous No.15859766]

>>15859757
Tankwatchers counted every single bolt of the launch tower.

[Anonymous No.15859768]

>>15859764
nobody knows, not even spacex

[Anonymous No.15859770]

>>15859764
It's likely enough that I recommend waking up early enough to monitor the situation

[Anonymous No.15859772]

>>15859766
birdwatchers counted every single plover in texas

[Anonymous No.15859773]

>>15859764
We just don't know

[Anonymous No.15859774]

>>15859764
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15859775]

>>15859772
There are more bolts on the launch tower and stars in our galaxy.

[Anonymous No.15859776]

>>15859772
i'd like to lay some pipe in a plover if you know what my drift

[Anonymous No.15859777]

>>15859775
there are more plover's in texas than grains of sand in a star

[Anonymous No.15859778]

>>15859777
>grains of sand in a star
kek, I'm going to use this in the future.

[Anonymous No.15859782]

>>15859766
rocketry is a classic autistic are after all

[Anonymous No.15859784]

>>15859768
but are they preparing the rocket as if the launch is happening on Friday?

[Anonymous No.15859787]

>>15859784
no they're too busy watching plovers

[Anonymous No.15859788]

>>15859784
Yes. TFR, launch scheduled, FTS is even on it

[Anonymous No.15859789]

>>15859782
>are
area*

[Anonymous No.15859791]

>>15859784
no they are not. they are taking the booster apart ring by ring as we speak. how the fuck can a launch happen under those circimstances?

[Anonymous No.15859794]

>>15859764
>can someone give me a straight answer on if the launch is happening on Firday?
Yes. Unfortunately that person is some FWS manager who's massaging his nipples while watching videos of ocelots mating right now.

[Anonymous No.15859796]

Attention class

[Anonymous No.15859800]

>>15859791
you know the ring is still on and they took the crane away, right?

[Anonymous No.15859808]

what time does the launch window open on friday?

[Anonymous No.15859809]

>>15859808
8AM central time

[Anonymous No.15859811]

>>15859784
they better be
I'm taking the day off for the occasion

[Anonymous No.15859812]

I know that some rockets were able to change engines in the middle of development. But have there been any rockets in history that changed staging on a whim like Starship? And the FAA report states the hot staging ring weighs 9 fucking tons, which means they must be getting a lot of benefit from staging that way. Another interesting detail in report is that they may jettison the ring in certain launch scenarios. Doesn't seem exactly "fully and rapidly reusable" to me so I'd guess hot staging is a temporary measure.

[Anonymous No.15859813]

>>15859809
>4AM hawaii time
if I wake up at 5 what are the chances that I miss it

[Anonymous No.15859817]

>>15859813
50%
either you miss it or you don't

[Anonymous No.15859821]

>>15859817
first it was volume measurement, now statistics. Good job /sfg/.

[Anonymous No.15859822]

>>15859812
Hot staging allows you to thrust basically nonstop from launch until space. The old strategy is 9 tons lighter but you also lose a crazy amount of delta V because all the extra drag from the tilt and all that time letting Earth's gravity delete your speed instead of continuing to push it up

[Anonymous No.15859825]

>>15859812
9 tonnes added to stage 1 equates to roughly 1.2 tons of payload reduction, which off of a 150 tonne maximum is negligible. This is as per the 7:1 ratio stated for ULA rockets though, which stage very high and fast compared to Starship stage 1. This means the true payload refuction on Starship from adding 9 tonnes to the Booster is likely significantly less than 1.2 tonnes.

[Anonymous No.15859828]

>>15859812
best part no part, so dropping the ring every launch is actually more reusable than bringing it back

[Anonymous No.15859829]

>>15859809
How much is that in true time?

[Anonymous No.15859830]

>>15859813
Wake up at 3:50 or just sleep in as normal and watch recap if you missed it.
Waking up at 5 will disappoint you either way: either you are disappointed because it launched while you slept, or, you are disapppinted cuz you just woke up early and it didn't launch yet.

[Anonymous No.15859832]

>>15859821
guess how many cubic kilometers of water fit into lake mead?

[Anonymous No.15859837]

>>15859447
Wow, much as could have been determined by one or two moments' reflection. I'm glad these assholes wasted months on this.

[Anonymous No.15859838]

>>15859822
So bros I haven't really been following this hot staging thing. How does it work? So while the booster is still firing Starships starts to fire as well and simply separates? And the hot staging ring has holes so the exhaust can escape to the side? Does the hot staging ring separate as well at some point? Shouldn't the near empty thrusting booster have a higher acceleration than SS? How do they separate?

[Anonymous No.15859840]

Why does Nextspaceflight list the flight on friday as suborbital?

[Anonymous No.15859841]

>>15859828
>so dropping the ring every launch is actually more reusable than bringing it back
Technically yes, if you are using bamboo staging

[Anonymous No.15859844]

>>15859830
I wake up at 5 anyway. I'll just wake up at 4.

[Anonymous No.15859845]

>>15859838
I assume only a few SH engines will still be firing if any at all when starship fires its own

>>15859840
Because of autism

[Anonymous No.15859847]

>>15859841
Oh that's what thats called, I remember doing that in KSP years ago just fucking around with things.

[Anonymous No.15859850]

Live

https://www.youtube.com/live/DB_FzncBgq0?si=6c12aFBzrru5KQZL

[Anonymous No.15859854]

>>15859850
fat ugly bastard

[Anonymous No.15859867]

>>15859850
>pot-able

[Anonymous No.15859871]

Bros... the stars are linin' up. Soon we are launching the spaceplane of the 21st century

[Anonymous No.15859875]

>>15859871
A plane lands on runways. Starship lands on a launchpad

[Anonymous No.15859877]

>>15859875
He's talking about Dream Chaser

[Anonymous No.15859879]

>>15859877
I'll believe it when I see it

[Anonymous No.15859882]

[Anonymous No.15859884]

>>15859838
The staging ring is retained.
The Booster with 3 low throttle Raptors & remaining propellant mass will have a lower TWR than Starship will have. They can even splay the engines out on the Booster to use cosine losses to further reduce TWR.
The two craft will simply separate, yes. The booster will start flipping ASAP after separation.

[Anonymous No.15859888]

>>15859882
ESA bullshit

[Anonymous No.15859889]

The heat from the rocket fire would vaporize most of the water applied by the deluge
system and would generate a cloud of steam and aerosolized mist. Based on the amount of water,
the heat of the plume is expected to dissipate quickly and the majority of the vapor cloud is expected
to take the form of aerosolized mist near the VLA. The vapor cloud would extend over the land and
into the air as it is energized by the heat of the rocket plume. The temperature of the vapor cloud
would depend on the temperature of the heat plume. With the addition of the water, the distance
the heat travels is expected to be less than analyzed in the 2022 PEA. The vapor cloud would disperse
quickly. As a conservative estimate, SpaceX expects the maximum extent of the vapor cloud to be no
greater than the 0.6-mile radius of the heat plume analyzed in the 2022 PEA (Figure 2). Since the
vaporization would occur from the thrust and heat of the vehicle, water vapor is not expected to form
beyond the extent of the modeled plume. The fate of the vapor cloud as it cools would be either
evaporation or condensation.

[Anonymous No.15859891]

>>15859828
youre fucking retarded dude lmao, may as well not recover anything then. blind musk fans give us all a bad name

[Anonymous No.15859892]

>>15859812
I can't see why they would jettison the hot staging ring in any scenario. Maybe its reffering to the starship not returning to launch site and the whole thing hitting the water?

[Anonymous No.15859893]

Evaporation: Water can be considered evaporated when it transitions from a liquid to a gas and
becomes dispersed in the air, contributing to the overall moisture content of the atmosphere. The
specific point at which water vapor is considered to have evaporated into the atmosphere is not well-
defined, as evaporation is an ongoing process influenced by various factors such as temperature,
humidity, and air currents.

[Anonymous No.15859896]

>>15859891
engines are expensive, therefore reuse them. Interstage is dirt cheap, therefore throw it away.

[Anonymous No.15859898]

As analyzed in the Ecological Impacts of the Space Shuttle Program at John F. Kennedy
Space Center (NASA 2015) and Final Constellation Programmatic Environmental Impact Statement
(NASA 2008), near-field impacts (launch pad to approximately 1 mile) were generally within the
immediate vicinity of the launch complex (NASA 2015)Error! Bookmark not defined.. Far-field
deposition was dependent on atmospheric and meteorological conditions and generally was within a
few miles of the launch complex, but some launches did result in deposition across Kennedy Space
Center and/or Cape Canaveral Space Force Station.

[Anonymous No.15859899]

>regulations should be minimum for IFT 3
>unless there is a mission failure, in which case 4-month delay due to investigation
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.15859901]

>>15859899
but what constitutes a mission failure?

[Anonymous No.15859902]

>Levels of chromium, aluminum, iron, zinc, and total suspended solids have since
decreased dramatically with the second test showing below the numeric effluent limitations found in
TCEQ’s Industrial Stormwater multi-sector general permit. It is not expected the deluge water would
contain any pollutants during future operations

THIS BTFO'S ESGHOUND COMPLETELY


AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

[Anonymous No.15859905]

>>15859901
FTS being activated I assume. Or not reaching re-entry

[Anonymous No.15859910]

>>15859902
Failquote but good. Also stop with this gay spacing phonefag

[Anonymous No.15859911]

>>15859902
tell him and post result.
he probably won't respond though.

[Anonymous No.15859916]

>>15859911
>YOU ARE BLOCKED FROM THIS USER

[Anonymous No.15859917]

>>15859901
Shrapnel

[Anonymous No.15859918]

>>15859910
>gay spacing phonefag
It's neither of these, I'm just highlighting the text and copying it

>>15859911
I don't use twatter

[Anonymous No.15859922]

>The forward heat shield could be expended in the Gulf of Mexico.

It doesn't stay attached?

[Anonymous No.15859923]

>>15859889
>The fate of the vapor cloud as it cools would be either
>evaporation or condensation.
Can some weatherfag explain how the cloud chooses between condensation or evaporation?

[Anonymous No.15859925]

>>15859922
>could

[Anonymous No.15859926]

>>15859923
It generally depends on a bunch of factors but mostly on however its feeling that day

[Anonymous No.15859931]

>>15859902
>ntent of the atmosphere. The
>specific point at which water vapor is considered to have evaporated into the atmosphere is not well-
>defined, as evaporation is an ongoing process influenced by various
ESGHOUND on his way to contaminate boca chica with heavy metals

[Anonymous No.15859939]

>>15859918
here's his phone number: [phone]

[Anonymous No.15859945]

>>15859791
funny bait post i'm gonna spam this one on future launches.

[Anonymous No.15859949]

[Anonymous No.15859950]

>>15859923
evaporation requires there to be heat and dry air (at a given temperature, a liquid is actually in equillibrium with it's gas form, producing a partial pressure. In the open pressure environment of the atmosphere, that means anything under a partial pressure of one atmosphere results in some water remaining liquid. water evaporates until there's none left or the partial pressure is adequate to prevent more evaporation.

[Anonymous No.15859952]

>>15859891
>autist fails to recognize obvious sarcasm
a classic blunder.

[Anonymous No.15859953]

NASA should have a CLPS like contract but for mars and Venus exploration. Set aside a billion and let the small commercial companies built a bunch of probes and landers for cheap

[Anonymous No.15859958]

The gay part about this launch is that we are gonna have to wait six months for the FOIA request to NASA to be responded to and for them to release the actual kino angles.

[Anonymous No.15859960]

>>15859953
That would be smart and sensible so that's not happening

[Anonymous No.15859962]

>>15859891
I wasn't being sarcastic though.

[Anonymous No.15859964]

SpaceX will analyze soil samples in a timely manner (i.e., not stored beyond what is necessary
to transport to the lab), however, interpretation of the data may be deferred until the
Contaminants Monitoring Plan is finalized. If monitoring indicates levels of contaminants are
increasing, FAA will ensure that SpaceX will expand monitoring to include biological sampling
sufficient to determine if levels are accumulating in wildlife. If contaminant levels are
increasing in biota, FAA will ensure that SpaceX will conduct an Ecological Risk Assessment to
determine if levels are approaching toxicity thresholds or are otherwise harmful to target
species. If the Ecological Risk Assessment shows a contaminant risk to target species, the FAA
will ensure that SpaceX will coordinate with the Service and other appropriate agencies to
remove, reduce, and remediate contaminant levels in order to minimize or eliminate
potential injury to listed species

[Anonymous No.15859966]

>>15859896
full and rapid reusability btw

[Anonymous No.15859974]

>SpaceX estimates
that each Starship/Super Heavy vehicle launch would ablate (erode) up to 190 pounds of
stainless steel from the steel plate and mount, equating to 140.6 pounds of iron, 34.2 pounds of
chromium, and 15.2 pounds of nickel.

[Anonymous No.15859975]

>>15859966
tasteful digits

[Anonymous No.15859976]

>>15859966
that doesn't sound very SMART to me

[Anonymous No.15859979]

>>15859974
WORLDS

BIGGEST

PLASMA

CUTTING

TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORCH

[Anonymous No.15859981]

>>15859586
nuclear soft ban through over regulation

[Anonymous No.15859983]

so, do any of the european small launchers have a chance at launching comcargo before 2028?

[Anonymous No.15859984]

>>15859983
European small launchers?

[Anonymous No.15859985]

>>15859984
yes, any euro launch company that isn't arianespace.

[Anonymous No.15859989]

>>15859985
Like?

[Anonymous No.15859990]

>>15859989
Copenhagen Suborbitals

[Anonymous No.15859992]

>>15859974
>SpaceX estimates that each Starship/Super Heavy vehicle launch would ablate (erode) up to 190 pounds of
stainless steel from the steel plate and mount, equating to 140.6 pounds of iron, 34.2 pounds of chromium, and 15.2 pounds of nickel
Imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.15859993]

>>15859989
Rocket Factory Augsburg, PLD space, uhhh, I'm sure there are some others

[Anonymous No.15859995]

>>15859993
you missed arca

[Anonymous No.15859998]

>>15859950
thanks

[Anonymous No.15859999]

>>15859974
REUSABLE WATER DELUGE SYSTEMS!

[Anonymous No.15860003]

why dont they carry the deluge system on the superheavy booster?

[Anonymous No.15860005]

>>15859974
just use more water

[Anonymous No.15860006]

>>15860003
Why don't they just make the OLIT 100km high and launch S25 from there? The best part is no part

[Anonymous No.15860009]

>>15860005
hmmm could mess with the fragile super saline ecosystem. I'll have to do another environmental review before you can do that.

[Anonymous No.15860011]

>>15859999
Checked

[Anonymous No.15860016]

>>15859999
but... how?

[Anonymous No.15860020]

>>15859974

[Anonymous No.15860022]

>>15859974
>failquoting again
can you lurk more?

[Anonymous No.15860026]

>>15860022
It's endearing at this point.

[Anonymous No.15860034]

>>15857787
I was an aerospace engineer of over 45 years working mostly for NASA and some other aerospace companies. The last 10 years I was the director of a division that dealt with partial reuse of rockets. Project failures in this field are more prevalent because they are designed by less experienced engineers who want to make their mark on the world by creating or implementing a new untested technology. They typically watch too much Star Trek and Elon Musk podcasts. Usually they are theorists, that live in a theoretical world. Old aerospace engineers like myself lived for many decades in the real world, and know theory and reality can be very different. We design projects based on proven concepts and proven engine architectures and proven materials. our projects evolved more slowly, but dependability and reliability were the highest priorities. We built, and studied results before extrapolating into larger projects. Today's aerospace engineers rely entirely on computer modeling to verify the validity of their designs. Experience has been replaced by blind faith in aerospace. I guess that's true in many professions now. Just my 2 cents from an old Boomer.

[Anonymous No.15860036]

There's an unsettlingly high possibility that without SpaceX twisting the FAA and FWS nipples on X, at that hearing, and so on that they surely would have passed the government shutdown date and the Starship program would be set back 5 months

[Anonymous No.15860038]

>>15860034
who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.15860042]

>>15859974
Can someone calculate how thick a layer is of the whole deluge thing? Must be like 1 mm.

[Anonymous No.15860047]

>>15860038
the disastrous rocket launch.

[Anonymous No.15860056]

Launch license issued

[Anonymous No.15860057]

Only approved for IFT-2

[Anonymous No.15860059]

>https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1723158118706839819

87.8M views

fucken hell

[Anonymous No.15860060]

>>15860034
I like it, It's very similar to the posts I remember seeing on NSF forums. Not sure if there are any engineering boomers left there these days.

[Anonymous No.15860062]

>>15860057
I can't wait for some other trivial change to IFT-3 initiate another 6 month beauracrat nigger delay its all SO tiresome

[Anonymous No.15860063]

>>15860057
SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD

WHY??? WHY ARE THEY BEING SO ANAL ABOUT IT

[Anonymous No.15860064]

>>15860060
those bitter old Shittle boomers.

[Anonymous No.15860065]

>>15860056
uh-oh! oversisters how do we cope?

[Anonymous No.15860066]

>>15860059
Elon is pushing this shit on everyone's timeline, kinda based

[Anonymous No.15860067]

>>15860056
>>15860057
WE
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

[Anonymous No.15860069]

The page is 404'd for now, but this is the page before the whole space community DDOSed the thing.
https://www.faa.gov/media/72856

[Anonymous No.15860071]

>it's happening in 48 hours
It doesn't feel real

[Anonymous No.15860072]

UH, OVERSISTERS?????

[Anonymous No.15860073]

>>15860072
Typing up a storm to Thunderf00t as we speak

[Anonymous No.15860074]

>>15860057
>>15860056
cant wait to deal with TWO WEEKS for IFT-3. the biden admin is so fucking annoying.

[Anonymous No.15860075]

>>15860072
I give up

[Anonymous No.15860078]

>>15860069
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.15860081]

>>15860057
>Orbital
Wrong license
It's over

[Anonymous No.15860083]

>>15860078
faa.gov/media/69476
Not trolling, new link that actually works now

[Anonymous No.15860085]

Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.

We can’t connect to the server at faa.gov.

If that address is correct, here are three other things you can try:

Try again later.
Check your network connection.
If you are connected but behind a firewall, check that Firefox has permission to access the Web.

[Anonymous No.15860086]

OVERCELS SEETHING

[Anonymous No.15860087]

>>15860083
You left out the mandatory www part.
https://www.faa.gov/media/69476

[Anonymous No.15860088]

>>15860057
Modify it then

[Anonymous No.15860089]

>>15860085
>https://www.faa.gov/media/69476
works on my machine

[Anonymous No.15860090]

>>15860059
He is also blatantly advertising Cybertruck in this clip. This calls for a FTC collusion investigation if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.15860093]

>>15860087
wtf its only 5 pages

and every page has only one single line on it-

>LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15860094]

>>15860073
do share once you wrote it.

[Anonymous No.15860095]

Overcels, it's over…for you

[Anonymous No.15860097]

>>15860059
Twitter views are fucking worthless. Just having it load on the timeline counts as a view.

[Anonymous No.15860099]

It's not over yet
TWO
MORE
DAYS
anything could happen

[Anonymous No.15860101]

>>15860083
you know you can post pdfs directly to /sfg/, right? you're not a newfag, are you anon?

[Anonymous No.15860102]

soon

[Anonymous No.15860103]

Taking off work on friday so I can get trashed and watch the launch like it's the goddamn superbowl.

[Anonymous No.15860105]

>>15860101
hang on it takes a while to add the krystal porn

[Anonymous No.15860107]

COOL STORY BRO AAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.15860108]

>>15860101
pdfs can be comped now. you're a fucking moron if you download a pdf from 4chinz

[Anonymous No.15860111]

>>15860101
You know PDFs can be faked right? you're not a retard, are you anon?

>>15860105
damn you beat me to it.

[Anonymous No.15860112]

>>15860101
somebody told me to never open up pdfs posted on 4chan for some security reason and I believe them

[Anonymous No.15860114]

>>15860056
>>15860057
OVERFAGS WHERE ARE YOU NOW?

[Anonymous No.15860115]

>>15860107
berger really waited 6 months to reply to that

[Anonymous No.15860116]

CONFIRMED BY SPACEX FRIDAY LAUNCH CHECK X

AHHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.15860118]

>>15860099
When it isn't totally over for overcels...
They can't even say "it's over" about themselves...

[Anonymous No.15860119]

>>15860107
Holy based grudgeposter

[Anonymous No.15860120]

>>15860116
>https://nitter.net/SpaceX/status/1724899815686029329#m
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.15860121]

>>15860102
"The signal goes on and he shows up. That's the way it's been, that's the way it will be."

[Anonymous No.15860122]

>>15860103
alcohol?

[Anonymous No.15860123]

How far do we think it will get?

Personally I'm betting on an uncontrolled re-entry and breakup, but it could go all the way.

[Anonymous No.15860124]

>window opens 7AM CT
guess I'm waking up at 3 AM rip

[Anonymous No.15860128]

>>15860105
the hero we dont deserve, thank you <3

[Anonymous No.15860129]

>>15860112
who told ya that?

[Anonymous No.15860131]

>have to get up at 8AM

ughhh

[Anonymous No.15860133]

>>15860124
They never launch at the top of the window. Some valve gets stuck or boat moves into the range.

[Anonymous No.15860134]

>>15860123
I'm in full doom mood.
Mid flight explosion before stage separation.

[Anonymous No.15860135]

>>15860129
Not him but I saw someone here say that too.

[Anonymous No.15860137]

>>15860123
I'm feeling that hot staging deletes superheavy, damages the starship but not critically and it makes orbit before shitting on re entry with a dozen issues.

[Anonymous No.15860141]

>>15860119
Nice to see my image still floating around

[Anonymous No.15860142]

>>15860108
>>15860111
>>15860112
When did /sfg/ get a bunch of pussy bitches lmao

[Anonymous No.15860144]

>>15860056
>>15860057
LETS FUCKIING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15860145]

>>15860072
As promised.
>AAAAAAACCCKK!!

[Anonymous No.15860148]

>>15860134
I'm actually preparing myself for a pad RUD. I have a bad feeling about IFT-2.

[Anonymous No.15860149]

>>15860124
>1400 local time
Fuck I'll still be at work, but I'll find a way to tune in

[Anonymous No.15860150]

>>15860114
I just...
>AAAAAAAAAACCCKKKKKKK!!!

[Anonymous No.15860152]

IT MAY LAUNCH BUT IT WILL FUCKING EXPLODE IMMEDIATELY YOU'LL FUCKING SEE ELON COCKSUCKLERS YOU'LL ALL FUCKING SEE

RAPTOR IS BEYOND FUCKED

FUCK YOU

[Anonymous No.15860155]

>>15860135
we don't wanna get a viral infection do we

[Anonymous No.15860156]

uhhh, why is it IFT? Shouldn't it be OFT?

[Anonymous No.15860157]

Thread will not be usable for the next week

[Anonymous No.15860158]

OverGODS lost... I concede.... its over

[Anonymous No.15860160]

/sfg/ Spaceflight General is BACK

[Anonymous No.15860163]

>>15860156
no because it's not orbital
I don't think they ever used OFT
integrated flight test

[Anonymous No.15860165]

>11pm local

REALLY excited to watch that fat bitch sit on the pad for several hours while they fuck with sticky valves and chase off boomer boaters until it finally scrubs at 3AM

[Anonymous No.15860166]

>>15860145
>>15860150
>>15860158
DAS RITE!! BACKCHADS WE ARE BACK

[Anonymous No.15860168]

>>15860156
it's just shy of being orbital

[Anonymous No.15860169]

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1724898862890947028

>but after somewhere around 762 launches SpaceX may have themselves a problem

[Anonymous No.15860171]

>>15860056
>>15860057
GAAN

[Anonymous No.15860170]

>>15860165
the window is only 2 hours open

[Anonymous No.15860173]

>>15860165
someone remind me did it scrub during the first test?

[Anonymous No.15860174]

>>15860173
it did, with a recycle

[Anonymous No.15860175]

>>15860137
This

[Anonymous No.15860176]

>>15860173
elon really wanted a 4/20 launch so he peed on a valve which then froze

[Anonymous No.15860178]

>>15860169
>According to the FWS report regarding the Booster Bidet system, "The Starship-Super Heavy plume when in contact with the steel diverter could ablate up to 190 pounds of steel per launch."

This sounds like a lot, so we did a little math thanks to @RyanHansenSpace
.

The 0.0381m (1.5inch) thick top plate should experience about 0.00005m of erosion after each launch. Keep in mind this is projected as the WORST CASE scenario...but after somewhere around 762 launches SpaceX may have themselves a problem

>>15860042
>Can someone calculate how thick a layer is of the whole deluge thing? Must be like 1 mm.

Looks like Zack is stealing our ideas bros.

[Anonymous No.15860180]

ESG just saw a plover crawl into a OLT valve

SHUT IT DOWN

4 MORE MONTHS

[Anonymous No.15860181]

it better fucking work!

[Anonymous No.15860186]

calm down, hopium is flammable at high concentrations.

[Anonymous No.15860188]

>>15860186
It's okay I brought my FireX

[Anonymous No.15860191]

>>15859976
this only makes sense if you pay $50M for each engine

[Anonymous No.15860192]

LETS FUCKINGG GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15860195]

>we still have years of testing and many launches to go before starship gets out of testing and into doing real launches
they havent even made a launch site in florida yet...

[Anonymous No.15860198]

>>15860191
So you're saying it makes perfect sense?

[Anonymous No.15860199]

STARBASE BEING EVACUATED

SHIP BEING LIFTED

GIVE HER YOUR ENERGY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.15860200]

>>15860195
better than years of red tape and environmental reviews

[Anonymous No.15860202]

>>15860195
nah, they'll be launching real payloads the first time they get a successful fractional orbit.

[Anonymous No.15860205]

>>15859417
THUBDERKEK
B T F O
T
F
O

[Anonymous No.15860206]

>>15860202
they payload will be a fractional orbital bombardment hypersonic MIRV super dispersion nuke ICBM

[Anonymous No.15860210]

>>15860124
SpaceX has peak comfy launch hours for the UK
wfh as well

[Anonymous No.15860213]

>>15860063
Because there's a 50% chance that the ship could still explode without clearing the tower. Right now, the system is still too new and the flight hardware for IFT2 is considerably obsolete relative to latest designs of both ship/booster, engines, plumbing, avionics, etc. The risk factor is still too high. It will probably take another 3-4 years of continued testing to get that risk down to 10%, then in the 3-5% range similar to Falcon 9; before FAA would provide block launch licenses.

[Anonymous No.15860214]

>>15860199
GO STARSHIP
GO SPACEX
GO USA

[Anonymous No.15860216]

>>15859891
Where's your sense of smell? That anon was obviously shitposting

[Anonymous No.15860218]

we're fucking going

[Anonymous No.15860219]

>>15860213
I believe we won't be seeing any Starship launch failures. The rocket is simply too simple and reliable for anything to go wrong.

[Anonymous No.15860220]

>>15860199
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.15860224]

>>15860199
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.15860225]

Okay real question, I'm going down to Brownsville for the launch, where should I view it from

[Anonymous No.15860226]

>>15860178
>0.00005m
How lazy do you have to be to not express that in sensible units (mm or um)?

[Anonymous No.15860229]

>>15860056
>>15860057
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
WE ARE GOING

[Anonymous No.15860232]

>>15860202
Actually, what is the roadmap for Starship flight tests? I remember seeing a really detailed one, it was submitted to the FCC or something. I think, after the first working integrated test, there will probably be a full orbital test with a second burn. Then a test of Starlink Starship version and then the one with a large cargo bay. I think at this point there are two launch sites or mechazillas, so SpaceX can try to do a bunch of catch/landing tests that also double as propellant depot and propellant tanker tests. There is also a bunch of tests and missions with early customers going in parallel at this point. Then an HLS test and a bunch of crew certification. Crew cert for HLS will be used for Mars transfer Dtatship version and that will have tk be tested a bunch too. Going to be a really amazing couple of years, tons of variants, shit tons of new missions and tests plus they're planning on extending the ship, changing cannard locations, removing some grid fins and getting hot gas thrusters running (and just maybe switching staging systems again). Really packed decade for spaceflight.

[Anonymous No.15860234]

OVERCHADS

WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK

>Biden and Xi meeting in SF right now
>ostensibly for repairing ties/economic talks blahblah
>its actual main goal is for Xi to coerce Biden to delay and stop the Starship launch, China's main future space competitor

THINK ABOUT IT, WHY WOULD THESE TWO EVENTS SEEMINGLY UNRELATED BUT ACTUALLY TOTALLY CONNECTED BE HAPPENING AT THE EXACT SAME TIME???

>last day of APEC
>Nov 17th

>SpaceX IFT-2 launch
>Nov 17th

COINCIDENCE?? I THINK NOT

OVERCHADS, WE ARE NOT YET DEFEATED!

[Anonymous No.15860241]

>>15860234
Meds now

[Anonymous No.15860249]

starship is an existential threat to the entire global space industry, but just like starlink it will go under the radar

[Anonymous No.15860248]

>Friday night
Holy based

[Anonymous No.15860252]

>>15860199
imagine if they dropped it

[Anonymous No.15860256]

>>15860148
First launch went too well.
If it actually gets further this time I'll be elated. Pad RUD would be kin. We never got to see N-1 go in HD, perhaps Starship can scratch the itch.

[Anonymous No.15860263]

>>15860256
Pad RUD would set back Starship 2 years. But I would gladly accept it since we will get IMAX footage and memes from it. Imagine if it does an Astra.

[Anonymous No.15860264]

>>15860256
you are delusional. There is very little that can go wrong with the Starship architecture

[Anonymous No.15860266]

>>15860263
>since we will get IMAX footage
did we get IMAX footage from the first flight?

[Anonymous No.15860269]

>>15860264
'capped

[Anonymous No.15860271]

>>15860263
It would be hell if it happened, but still fascinating to see.
>>15860266
I think the official SpaceX recap was in 4k, obviously not IMAX but still quite nice.

[Anonymous No.15860272]

>lifting has begun
Lifting has begun
>lifting has begun
Lifting has begun

[Anonymous No.15860278]

>>15860263
>Imagine if it does an Astra.
which one? We've already go the powerslide and the speeeen checked off with IFT-1

[Anonymous No.15860280]

Its over launch license will be revoked

[Anonymous No.15860283]

>>15860280
Spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.15860286]

FINAL LIFT IS HAPPENIIIIIIIIIIIIIJNG

[Anonymous No.15860287]

>>15860266
it's not really reasonable to put IMAX footage on the internet
hopefully they're assembling a documentary and will release it in actual IMAX theaters

[Anonymous No.15860289]

S-she's f-fast

[Anonymous No.15860296]

I've not watched a lift for a while, is it usually this fast?

[Anonymous No.15860298]

>>15860296
They upgraded the speed after the hydraulics/pneumatics on mechazilla exploded that one time.

[Anonymous No.15860301]

>>15860280
OH NONONONONONNONOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ELON DROPS THE FINAL REDPILL

[Anonymous No.15860302]

>>15860266
Nothing was ever released :(

[Anonymous No.15860310]

>>15860302
guess I'll have to go get the IMAX cinema experience like a good goy

[Anonymous No.15860314]

>>15860287
The 18K resolution marketing aside, YouTube already supports 8K60fps with HDR at 50Mbps. That's more than enough for high-end home theater viewing.
More channels should be mastering launches in HDR since the rocket plume, Sun, and clouds are crushing lighting detail in SDR as it is.

[Anonymous No.15860316]

>>15860314
>YouTube
but what does X support?

[Anonymous No.15860322]

Flight 2 footage will be garbage.
Just as flight 1 was.
Doesn't matter it's the best rocket ever and its about to make orbit.

[Anonymous No.15860324]

>>15860316
1080p60 SDR at 4.5mbps last I checked

[Anonymous No.15860325]

>>15860324
>1080p60 SDR at 4.5mbps
I HATE ELONS TISM
FUCKING STREAM ON YT UNTIL XITTER LOOKS JUST AS GOOD FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.15860329]

>>15860325
our best hope for 4K footage now is some fan channel on South Padre Island with a zoom lens

[Anonymous No.15860331]

He keeps finding whole new ways to cope and move the goalposts so he's always in the right its kinda incredible if it wasn't so delusional

Wannabee hall monitor can't admit when he's wrong, hurts his ego.

Fuck him, doesn't even deserve to be named.

[Anonymous No.15860333]

>>15860325
Tsmt twitter switch was a mistake

[Anonymous No.15860336]

I'm seeing lateral movement!

[Anonymous No.15860338]

Almost stacked

[Anonymous No.15860339]

>>15860280
he actually can't keep getting away with it

[Anonymous No.15860340]

>>15860331
Now it's clear he's that faggot from twitter.

[Anonymous No.15860343]

>>15860325
Gonna fucking scream if it isn't streamed on YouTube
I know it fucking won't be

[Anonymous No.15860344]

>>15860340
I'm talking about esgfag

[Anonymous No.15860349]

>STARSHIP STACKING
>FWS ABSOLUTELY BTFO'S EDS SUFFERERS AND OVERFAGS
>EVERYTHING IN PLACE FOR LAUNCH
>/SFG/ POSTS PER HOURS INCREASING
>EXCITEMENT BUILDING
>I GET A FREE DAY OFF ON FRIDAY FOR UNRELATED REASONS

EVERYONE RISE FOR THE TOTAL BEETLE DEATH THEME: https://youtu.be/Tlu1ZfYr6vA

[Anonymous No.15860352]

>>15860280
ALL HAIL THE KING

[Anonymous No.15860357]

LAUNCH

[Anonymous No.15860358]

>>15860349
It wont launch. overGODS, I'm all in on this one.

[Anonymous No.15860359]

>>15860280
I will now let Musk put a computer chip in my head to own the jews.

[Anonymous No.15860361]

>>15860135
Wear the mask

[Anonymous No.15860364]

I am the only whose's scared about the launch windows ? 2h only. if something goes south , no recicle no nothing , scrub .

Or maybe im misssing sometign , enlight me please

[Anonymous No.15860365]

>>15860280
What?

[Anonymous No.15860366]

>>15860156
It is OFT, IFT is revisionist history

[Anonymous No.15860369]

>>15860364
Even if it does we just have to wait until monday I think

[Anonymous No.15860370]

>>15860364
Launch windows aren't scary, as opposed to women.

[Anonymous No.15860371]

>>15860366
Shut the fuck up retard it was NEVER orbital

[Anonymous No.15860373]

>>15860325
>>15860343
A few days ago SpaceX posted on youtube again so my hope isn't completely dead yet

[Anonymous No.15860377]

That I think was the fastest stack I have ever seen

[Anonymous No.15860383]

Imagine if it explodes on pad, lmao

[Anonymous No.15860388]

>>15860377
It was exactly 35min . Pretty hasty

[Anonymous No.15860389]

>>15860343
It's OK, a cute anime girl will be restreaming!

[Anonymous No.15860390]

>1972
>51 years ago
>The last time a single Super Heavy Lift rocket model launched twice in a year

[Anonymous No.15860394]

>>15860390
It was fake.

[Anonymous No.15860400]

>>15860056
>Effective November 15, 2023
LAUNCH IMMINENT

[Anonymous No.15860401]

NOAA Weather report for Port Isabel .

[Anonymous No.15860402]

>>15860401
i'm curious what upper level winds are gonna be like, because that could still fuck friday's launch.

[Anonymous No.15860403]

>>15860401
Looking good. I'll make sure to sacrifice a small animal to the weather gods just to be sure though.

[Anonymous No.15860405]

>>15860394
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.15860407]

>>15860401
It's over

[Anonymous No.15860411]

>>15860402
Pretty ok . 112km/h at 10km . I think the maximum before scrub is something close to 150km/h

BTW : im using the model with the highest resolution : HRRR (3km resolution)

[Anonymous No.15860416]

>>15860390
I wonder what he would think of Starship

[Anonymous No.15860418]

>>15860416
>about fucking time
also
>fucking copy-cats

[Anonymous No.15860420]

>>15860411
>112km/h
We need to get some wind turbines up there

[Anonymous No.15860426]

>NSF cuck-truck deployed
WE GAAAN

[Anonymous No.15860427]

>>15860416
He would probably be amazed at what they've done with raptor and wonder why he didn't consider methane more.

[Anonymous No.15860428]

>>15860416
>why the fuck isn't the US government putting their efforts into this?

[Anonymous No.15860432]

>>15860428
May I show you something Herr Braun? It's what NASA is working on now - the SLS.

[Anonymous No.15860434]

>>15860432
>Mein gott!

[Anonymous No.15860438]

One thing you guys need to keep in mind for friday, more exactly early friday (6am or so ), the chill down and purge will take longer. Like , much longer. Why ? They discovered a while ago some issues in the pipes that transport fuel to the olm IF the purging is not done correctly (basically not purging enough).
So if the pre-fueling checklist takes longer , it is normal

[Anonymous No.15860441]

>>15860418
Pretty much

[Anonymous No.15860444]

>>15860418
>>fucking copy-cats
But he posted von Braun, not Korolev?

[Anonymous No.15860445]

>>15860438
Thanks, anon. Got a source for that?

[Anonymous No.15860447]

>>15860441
>the launch mount Starship deserves

[Anonymous No.15860449]

>>15860444
see >>15860441

[Anonymous No.15860450]

>>15860441
>spaceplane
>no hot staging
I fail to see the resemblance.

[Anonymous No.15860452]

>>15860445
u/Anastrope on the SpaceX subreddit. Hes pretty accurate

Some dude asked 12h ago : "There was a comment here the other day but I can’t find it now.
Does anyone know the current status of the tank farm? Is filling already complete or in progress?"

Anastrope said : "There will be an round of extra tankers early morning of launch. SpaceX want to make super sure the whole system is purged prior to loading. I've heard internal icing has been a problem with valves with insufficient purging. Problem has been solved, just needs extra fuel which the current tank farm can't provide, and is the reason for the next rebuild project."

>TLDR : SpaceX want to make super sure the whole system is purged prior to loading. I've heard internal icing has been a problem with valves with insufficient purging. Problem has been solved, just needs extra fuel which the current tank farm can't provide

[Anonymous No.15860457]

Reminder

[Anonymous No.15860459]

>15860452
you need to go back disgusting animal

[Anonymous No.15860460]

>>15860457
Damn this is heavenly. I'm thankful there are so many rocket autists documenting Starship development like this.

[Anonymous No.15860461]

>>15860459
if a guy has been accurate providing information beforehand week after week but you hate the place where he spreads that info , whats wrong with that ? Forget reddit, that guy is reliable

[Anonymous No.15860462]

>>15860459
>anon posts high quality insider info
>reeeeeedit waaaahhhhh
kys just do it you fucking subhuman

[Anonymous No.15860466]

>>15860457
from this angle it almost looks like the booster is pointing at some plovers in the distance with one arm and raising another one filled with frozen methane ready to throw in the other one.

[Anonymous No.15860467]

the time between IFT-1 and IFT-2 was only a long time because they had to spend months repairing and building a new stage 0. IFT-3 could launch in january or february.

[Anonymous No.15860468]

>15860459
You have provided nothing of value to this thread. Fuck off

[Anonymous No.15860472]

>>15860467
Wrong
Everything was fixed months ago

[Anonymous No.15860475]

Any early predictions on how many engines will fail this time?

[Anonymous No.15860478]

>>15860467
It was all governmental delays with the launch license and environmental review, there wasn't that much to repair, not this many months worth at least.

[Anonymous No.15860482]

>>15860475
im pretty optimistic:

1 just after launch

0 on Starship

[Anonymous No.15860483]

>>15860475
≤39

[Anonymous No.15860485]

>>15860483
We have a winner!

[Anonymous No.15860486]

>>15860467
The pad was fixed like two months ago

[Anonymous No.15860487]

>>15860475
they've tested it so much that i only expect a few to fail

[Anonymous No.15860488]

>>15860459
Stop crying, retard

[Anonymous No.15860492]

>>15860475
under half from the last time because hopefully there won't be flying bits from the pad this time

[Anonymous No.15860494]

>>15860475
60+(it explodes on launch and destroys some raptors nearby)

[Anonymous No.15860497]

>>15860494
plovers are not birds of prey anon.

[Anonymous No.15860503]

>>15860494
this. it will be glorious. common snes skepticians got the popcorn ready to watch the n1 made by muskbaby go boom.

[Anonymous No.15860504]

>>15860497
>he doesn't know about the Northern Aplomado Falcon

[Anonymous No.15860506]

>>15860389
https://files.catbox.moe/1547wn.webm

[Anonymous No.15860507]

STAR CHADS
oh no no no !!

[Anonymous No.15860508]

>>15860432
Aber vielleicht wissen diese Scheußlichkeit auch nur ganz wenige.

[Anonymous No.15860509]

Common bukhead ruptures . methane and oxygen mix perfectly 1:1 in a almost miraclulous way . Hiroshima level bomb obliterates the tower and the building hosting the Raptors. All 300 are lost . Delay : 4 years

[Anonymous No.15860517]

On lift off, the world's entire remaining population of Plovers will fly into the plume

[Anonymous No.15860521]

>>15860517
starship will find EVERY REMAINING PLOVER NEST AND TORCH IT WITH IT'S EXHAUST

there is NO escape for the plover menace!

[Anonymous No.15860524]

guys... is SpaceX at risk of getting nationalized?

[Anonymous No.15860528]

NO ELON, STOP , WAIT AFTER THE LAUNCH

[Anonymous No.15860530]

>>15860199
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.15860531]

>>15860524
There is more chances me getting a gf before New Year than SpX getting nationalized

[Anonymous No.15860537]

>>15860411
Is it upper level wind speed or upper level wind shear that is the limiting factor? I don't know if the model you are looking at has a plot of average windspeed against altitude.

[Anonymous No.15860538]

>>15859625
lmao

[Anonymous No.15860544]

>>15860538
The plot thickens.

[Anonymous No.15860547]

>>15860537
wind shear is less of a problem for starship, as it's a much beefier rocket and not a noodle like falcon 9.
the reason why average upper level wind speeds can be important is if they're blowing towards land, high upper level winds could potentially send debris after a breakup in flight back over land.

[Anonymous No.15860550]

>>15860416
>how come the grid fins aren't retractable?

[Anonymous No.15860551]

>>15860509
>methane and oxygen mix perfectly 1:1 in a almost miraclulous way .
Could this be possible?

[Anonymous No.15860552]

>>15859541

[Anonymous No.15860554]

I'm calling it now, an ADL sniper will destroy Starship. They absolutely will not let Elon Musk succeed.

[Anonymous No.15860555]

>>15860280
HOLY SHIT THEY'LL KILL HIM NOW FOR SURE

[Anonymous No.15860556]

>>15860371
Yeah it blew up you dumb fucker

[Anonymous No.15860557]

>>15860551
No

[Anonymous No.15860558]

>>15860452
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.15860559]

>>15860557
Lets premix it then

[Anonymous No.15860560]

>>15860280
ELON NO. You can't dodge the ULA, MLK, AND JFK snipers at the same time, no man is that powerful!

[Anonymous No.15860561]

>>15860530
This is what nuclearfags actually believe

[Anonymous No.15860563]

>>15860559
>premixed rockets
>no seperating bulkheads needed
based.

[Anonymous No.15860565]

>>15860561
no this is >>15860552

[Anonymous No.15860566]

"from mars to the stars, the universe will be ours"

[Anonymous No.15860567]

>>15860530
Honest question, would this kill me?

[Anonymous No.15860568]

>>15860383
You'd better hope it doesn't or I'm heading to your location

[Anonymous No.15860569]

>>15860181
>the immensely ambitious experimental rocket that is only possible by SpaceX's rapid iterative development process MUST work or we'll repeat the petty obstructive bullshit until you publicly shame and pressure us enough
it's all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.15860571]

>>15860554
He somehow got them to publicly capitulate and endorse advertising on X again after their moratorium. Elon must have absolutely scared the shit out of them and is now trying to bait another kvetch-cycle so he can have his lawyers disassemble the ADL like he wanted to last time.

[Anonymous No.15860573]

>>15860571
He's going to have an accident at this rate

[Anonymous No.15860577]

>>15860571
>He somehow got them to publicly capitulate and endorse advertising on X again after their moratorium
how did he do it

>>15860573
he gon get Jorg Haider'd

[Anonymous No.15860578]

>>15860452
Anastrope is NOT blindly trustable

[Anonymous No.15860579]

>>15860571
He's trying to wake up young American to jewish tricks so that America doesn't get dragged into WW3 on behalf of Israel. The purpose of SpaceX is to build an SDI system to preempt WW3 and thereby save humanity. But war is looming and tat system isn't ready yet. He wants a republican administration in the White House to fund SDI, but time is running out for that option so now he's resorting to more drastic means. By waking young Americans up to the Jewish menace, he hopes to render American incapable of entering into wars for Israel and thereby stall the onset of WW3.

He may be a goofy autist and an asshole sometimes, but the threat is REAL and if he succeeds he will be the savior of humanity.

[Anonymous No.15860585]

>>15860441
>wings
>useless extra weight
>unironically not returning to the launch pad ass-first by throost vectoring

[Anonymous No.15860588]

>>15860585
PID is very hard. Please understand

[Anonymous No.15860594]

>>15860588
reminder that NASA achieved propulsive landings back in the 80s or 70s by landing some probe on the moon. Checkmate faggots that though propulsive landings weren't possible in the 20th century.

[Anonymous No.15860603]

>>15860594
Landing on the moon is easy compared to earth

[Anonymous No.15860608]

>>15860579
>WW3 on behalf of Israel
Not going to happen. A messy, decade-long guerilla conflict? Maybe. But not WW3. At most it would be a war with Iran, which is unlikely to expand into a full-scale great power conflict. Israel is still quite secure militarily (their main concern right now is minimizing casualties and avoiding escalation) and U.S. intervention would only even possibly be necessary if Iran were to launch an all out attack with their proxies and conventional forces, which would be unlikely to succeed and would leave the Iranian regime extremely vulnerable. China has little ability to project power in the region and Russia is too committed in Ukraine to offer meaningful assistance, even if they were so inclined.

[Anonymous No.15860609]

>>15860585
What do you expect? It was the 1950s. That bitch runs on hypergolic propellant. Korolev would lose his goddamn mind if he saw it.

[Anonymous No.15860612]

>>15860608
America at war with Iran is very likely to turn into a proxy war with China. At that point WW3 becomes a dangerous possibility.

Even if it's a 90% chance of not escalating, 10% chance of WW3 is shit odds.

[Anonymous No.15860615]

>>15859901
Water plate system failing, FTS failing to instakill vehicle

[Anonymous No.15860622]

>>15860578
i've never said that .my words were "hes pretty accurate"

[Anonymous No.15860629]

Catalog got shoah'd again, we're gonna be here for a while, page 8 barely even exists.

[Anonymous No.15860630]

>>15860612
>America at war with Iran is very likely to turn into a proxy war with China
No. Or at least, not in the way which is likely to escalate into WW3. A fully enthusiastic Chinese intervention on the scale of Western support for Ukraine wouldn't amount to much since China simply lacks the logistical capabilities to pull something like that off overseas. They might sell some guns under the table, but publicly staking support for Iran would only serve to piss off the Europeans and Oil Arabs and convince them to support a harder line against China down the road. Better to play nice.

[Anonymous No.15860632]

>>15860608
>>15860630
>arguing with the brilliant pebbles schizo
how new are you?

[Anonymous No.15860637]

>>15860609
>Korolev would lose his goddamn mind if he saw it.
Russky brains asploding would be a nice side-effect of Von Braun's design, yes.

[Anonymous No.15860646]

>>15860629
Good, it keeps out the riff-raff who don't know how to use the catalog. It's only a bad thing if it happens after we've already started a new thread.

[Anonymous No.15860649]

>>15860629
This is the launch thread then.

[Anonymous No.15860652]

>>15860632
I'm hopped up on vyvanse and would just spend an hour going over that argument in my head. Anyways it's fun to stress test schizos on particular points

[Anonymous No.15860659]

Starship is very shiny right? Stainless steel.

I would imagine it should be very visible in orbit from the ground when the light hits it right.

[Anonymous No.15860662]

if this launch goes 100%, when is the next one?

[Anonymous No.15860664]

>>15860662
probably (hopefully) quite soon after

[Anonymous No.15860669]

>>15860662
4 months on the low end, 8 months on the long end. Gone are the days when the federal goverment was lenient on SpaceX.

[Anonymous No.15860671]

>>15859585
>>15859579
stupid frogposters

[Anonymous No.15860673]

So it's quite possible Starship will have launched several times before SLS launches for the second time, and if this happens, I don't think the future looks too bright for SLS.
Discussion

Now let me be honest, I've been following SpaceX since 2011 and it was in 2012 when Elon Musk really started talking about a huge rocket that would be fully reusable, it was called the Mars Colonial Transporter at first (MCT), yeah I remember those days. So I have known for a long time that the SLS was a waste of money because SpaceX was going to build something bigger and better. And so here we are, Starship is going to launch for a second time and will launch many times before SLS even has it's second launch.

It's quite possible that SpaceX will even be catching the super heavy booster successfully by the time SLS launches again.

Now from what I'm hearing the second stage, Starship, will actually have landing legs before they attempt to catch it in mid-air, can someone clarify this? They're going to put landing legs on Starship first and land it with landing legs and then attempt to catch it with the tower?

But my point is, seeing them catch the booster with the tower would be absolutely amazing, and they will probably do this before SLS even launches for the second time!

I could see a lot of people clamoring for NASA to cancel SLS. NASA could spend the money on something else, like putting up gigantic cheap space telescopes via Starship. There are so many things we could do with Starship it's not even funny.

Astronomers are complaining that StarLink is ruining the night time sky but they don't realize that thanks to Starship we will soon be able to put up gigantic space telescopes on the cheap. Or even go put telescopes on the Moon.

I'm so excited, I've been waiting on Starship for over 10 years now! And it seems the time has finally arrived. They're gonna start launching Starship again and again and again! I think we're entering a new era.

Hello New World!!

[Anonymous No.15860675]

>>15860662
Oh you made some minor alterations to the vehicle? Sorry Elon, time for another FAA review, we might have to talk to the fish people again too if you keep badmouthing our greatest ally on twitter :^)

[Anonymous No.15860676]

>>15860669
>when the federal goverment was lenient on SpaceX
Isn't it the other way around? The government went hat-in-hand to beg Elon to activate Starlink over the Black Sea and Crimea. He told (((them))) to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.15860680]

>>15860673
>copy pasting boomer ramblings from reddit or nsf forum into the thread

[Anonymous No.15860681]

>>15860676
No he told them to buy starshield

[Anonymous No.15860682]

>>15860630
China will send weapons in cargo ships to Iran. The US will sink those ships, and then the conflict escalates. Even if there is only a 10% chance of this happening, that's nearly as bad as playing Russian Roulette.

[Anonymous No.15860684]

>>15860632
>no refutation
Starship will never go to Mars. It isn't a mars rocket. It is purpose built for launching massive LEO constellations.

[Anonymous No.15860685]

>>15860579
WW3 will be America's own doing.
As soon as domestic facilities can produce a sufficient supply of DoD-compliant microchips, expect a CIA false-flag somewhere in the South China Sea or involving Taiwan which will justify escalation to actual conflict between the US and China. Full-scale conflict between the two (and ensuing global conflict) results in the final dissolution of the Russian state and breakup of the Chinese one into several US client states and a collection of other geopolitically-weak entities.
This leaves the US essentially unopposed as a global power, especially if the war is used as an excuse to clear out a lot of nuclear power regulations in order to weaken OPEC's influence.

[Anonymous No.15860691]

>>15860685
This may in fact be their plan, but it's borderline suicidal.

[Anonymous No.15860692]

>>15860567
It would be extremely painful

[Anonymous No.15860693]

>>15860676
Wasn't it Ukraine asking him to do that and he basically said "please get the Pentagon to ask me that instead because otherwise I'd be violating US sanctions"
Like a kid asking his dad permission to do something and getting the old "did you ask your mother?" reply

[Anonymous No.15860696]

>>15860649
where do you even get liquid oxygen from as a hobbyist?

[Anonymous No.15860697]

>>15860685
America doing a full scale war will mean conscription is back. Good luck, that will be the end of the United States.

[Anonymous No.15860702]

>>15860662
1.5 months if launch goes perfectly. 3-4 months if it doesn't thus SpaceX has to do an investigation

[Anonymous No.15860704]

>>15860697
Fighting age Americans do not want to fight this war. Neither the whites (who by in large no longer support Israel nor believe they have a meaningful future in America) nor the browns (who only sign up to the military to get gibs.)

Escalating anti-jewish rhetoric serves to cement this fact. Young white guys with a clue know that if they're going to die in WW3 it'll be on American soil fighting for their own interests, not on foreign soil fighting for Israeli interests.

[Anonymous No.15860705]

>>15860696
Nigger you just make it yourself

[Anonymous No.15860707]

>>15860691
Nah. Ukraine has shown us that Russia's military takes notable hardware losses against our surplus anti-air and anti-tank weapons in the hands of a gaggle of thumb-headed slavs. China's military is just copy-pasted 80s and 90s Russian hardware, but slightly worse.
In a peer-to-"peer" conflict where the goal is as simple as "wipe out the PLA," the US is going to be playing on easy mode.

[Anonymous No.15860708]

>>15860693
Something like that yeah. He's not against the Pentagon using his stuff, just about mingling offensive use with civilian Starlink.

[Anonymous No.15860709]

>>15860696
From the air?

[Anonymous No.15860711]

>>15860685
The US barely has the industrial capacity to sustain a war with Iran, it would get absolutely destroyed by China

[Anonymous No.15860715]

Watch slaughterbots
That is the future of warfare and america is fucking screwed if they try and fight china

[Anonymous No.15860718]

>america attacks china
>gets swarmed by fpv drones

[Anonymous No.15860719]

>>15860685
the only thing wrong here is that the US was the sole global power in the 90s and 2000s and being the pole of a monopolar world sucked dick. Everybody hates us now because there's no better-of-two-evils, just one sort of evil. The government can get much, much more done 1984-style by creating an external threat that's simply omnipresent rhetorically, but not actually engaged with except with proxy wars here and there. Clearly a cold war is the way to go if the government wants to consolidate power, mobilize the workforce, and avoid any politically expensive mistakes that could hand over that power to somebody retarded who might mess it all up.

[Anonymous No.15860721]

>>15860685
>>15860707
you need to go back to /k/ tranny

[Anonymous No.15860722]

Spaceflight?

[Anonymous No.15860723]

Hey anons long time no post
I’m driving down to south padre to watch the starship launch
Do any of you fags know what the good spots are to watch the rogget? And do you have any (shitty iPhone camera) photo requests?

[Anonymous No.15860726]

>>15860707
To actually split up China the way >>15860685 suggests requires a land war in China. You can't win wars from the air. Every single goddamn time somebody thinks that's possible they get proven wrong. The only time it MIGHT have worked was the nuclear bombing of Japan and even that is dubious, and also a trick that won't work again because it will get nukes flying back at America and there are not presently enough interceptors to prevent that, even counting all of Aegis which cannot protect all of America.

You think it's going to go like Russia and Ukraine? Well Russia isn't getting split up. Nobody with more than two braincells is even talking about a NATO or Ukrainian invasion of Russia to split Russia up. Even that is too dangerous, and you propose it for China? Insane.

[Anonymous No.15860729]

>>15860723
You need to find Estronauts streaming location, put on a gorilla mask and hover around him menacingly with no other clothes on. I'll send you a hundred bucks in btc if you do this

[Anonymous No.15860730]

Firefly launch soon

[Anonymous No.15860732]

>>15860726
Now that we know Patriot batteries can intercept ballistic reentry vehicles there actually might be enough interceptors if we ringed all our fixed known-targets with SAM batteries.

[Anonymous No.15860733]

>>15860693
The NAFO crowd wanted you to ignore that a foreign government asked SpaceX, a civilian American company, to actively participate in an act of war by turning on Starlink in a place it wasn't in order to be used as a weapon guidance system.

[Anonymous No.15860734]

>>15860673
I too remember the MCT days, and back when raptor was speculated on but had never been seen so most renders showed one giant seadragon style engine bell.
SLS will continue because NASA doesnt want to fly it's astronauts on something that doesnt have an abort mode. Yes, they will use HLS to land on the moon, but they will still be autistic about launching or landing on earth from starship because it has no abort. It's a good thing. Ghettoizing all the shuttle grifters to SLS rather than cutting them out means Artemis has a 200% higher chance of not getting cancelled, and if Starship kills a crew it will be a diaster so bad that I dont even know how they will recover. EDS will go into overdrive and the givernment may even ban SpaceX from flying private passangers and introduce retarded regulation (no doubt pushed by ULA and BO) making an abort mode mandatory on any manned rocket.
Since its allegedly fully and rapidly reusable they should take full advantage of that, spamming launches to work out all the bugs. I would only really be comfortable seeing humans on it once they have a starship which has flown 10 misisons in a row flawlessly

[Anonymous No.15860736]

>15860733
Go back

[Anonymous No.15860737]

>>15860715
>EWAR
>anti-drone swarm lasers
>etc

[Anonymous No.15860738]

>>15860707
>gaggle of thumb-headed slavs
kek

[Anonymous No.15860739]

/k/ trannies take your warmongering mic shilling back to where you came from

[Anonymous No.15860740]

>>15860736
>Starlink is /pol/

Look at the retard and laugh.

[Anonymous No.15860741]

>>15860732
There aren't enough of those to protect all of America. "fixed known-targets" means every American population center; you (e.g. >>15860685) are talking about splitting up the PRC. They have the will and ability to retaliate against American civilians in response to America presenting an existential threat to their rule.

If Brilliant Pebbles were ready, America would have much better odds. But it isn't. China has nukes, capable missiles, a very nationalistic population that hate America, and considerable industrial power. America invading China to split up the PRC would be suicidal.

[Anonymous No.15860748]

>>15860734
>if Starship kills a crew it will be a diaster so bad that I dont even know how they will recover. EDS will go into overdrive and the givernment may even ban SpaceX from [...]
Well good news: Starship is for launching satellites and there aren't actually any serious plans to put people on it.

One of the big lessons learned from the Shuttle era is you don't mix passengers and cargo. Even if you wanted to use Starship to construct a Mars base, you would still launch the Starships unmanned and send people up in Falcon 9's to rendezvous with Starship in orbit.

[Anonymous No.15860752]

>>15860741
China doesn't have enough warheads for that. This isn't the Soviet Union we're talking about. MAD is entirely avoidable.

[Anonymous No.15860755]

>>15860737
EWAR doesn't work against ai drones
Lasers do but then are also easily defeated

[Anonymous No.15860756]

Can we actually talk about the now official starship launch instead of this faggot shit

[Anonymous No.15860758]

>>15860756
not until the trannies go back to /k/ope

[Anonymous No.15860759]

>>15860752
China has far more warheads than they have let on, and furthermore, they have several times as many decoys which each serve to increase the odds of their warheads getting through. America cannot intercept them all, we don't have enough interceptors for that.

[Anonymous No.15860760]

Really tired of this brilliant pebbles sperg, you faggots always taking his gay bait and making this place look like some shithole /k/pol/ thread. Kill yourselves.

[Anonymous No.15860761]

>>15860756
we've been discussing it for 209 days

[Anonymous No.15860763]

>>15860756
the launch isnt official. it won t launch. check the news tomorrow. its being destacked ring by ring now.

[Anonymous No.15860768]

>>15860759
We totally have enough Patriot PAC-3s if we strike first. Don't be a pussy.

[Anonymous No.15860769]

>>15860760
Dune-worm chan is cute! CUTE!

[Anonymous No.15860771]

>>15860760
Elon's mission is to save the human race, and to do this he's building the largest rocket ever made to put thousands of satellites into LEO.

This puzzle is for ages 1 or over. You should be able to solve this.

[Anonymous No.15860772]

Insider here. The launch has been called off on direct orders of President Jonathan Greenblatt.

[Anonymous No.15860774]

>>15860758
Honestly you’re worse. Demonstrate some knowledge of space flight principles or gtfo. No posts about non space flight bullshit
>>15860760
Agreed

[Anonymous No.15860775]

>>15860736
>/k/tranny thinks his kind belongs here
Go the fuck back

[Anonymous No.15860777]

>>15860752
As if China would disclose how many warheads they have stockpiled. All they need you to know is that they have them and the US can’t be certain if it’s a few hundred or a couple thousand. All that is known is that China is building lots of new silos and submarines so they are clearly making more. Throw in Russia and NK’s stockpiles and you will be getting overwhelmed and fucked up.

[Anonymous No.15860778]

Alright, everyone name your favorite Kuiper belt object (hardmode: no Pluto). For me it's Haumea.

[Anonymous No.15860779]

>>15860760
i want to fug the worm girl

[Anonymous No.15860781]

This is clearly a Mars rocket. If you don't agree then you're a schizo.

[Anonymous No.15860785]

I just shit myself. I realize the license is now in hand, but still I know in my heart they cant launch it

[Anonymous No.15860786]

>>15860781
looks like a spaceplane

>source: wings

[Anonymous No.15860787]

>>15860777
Oh lmao you're actually a chink. Did you think we didn't see everything your nuclear forces are doing? How pathetic.

[Anonymous No.15860791]

>>15860787
Eh? Sex?

[Anonymous No.15860796]

>>15860787
I fug her too

[Anonymous No.15860797]

>>15860791
Ehvangelion

[Anonymous No.15860799]

>>15860797

[Anonymous No.15860801]

>cooldown spamming

Kys

[Anonymous No.15860802]

>>15860787
NTA: Even if China only had the few hundred nuclear warheads the old public estimates claim, that is too many for America to take a risk with. Besides, a land war in China to split up the PRC is insanity even if nukes weren't on the table. Nobody with more than two braincells is seriously proposing such insanity. Nobody is even proposing an invasion of Russia and China is an even worse nut to crack than that.

Cold War is the only sane way forward.

[Anonymous No.15860809]

>>15860802
We don't need a land war, we need saturation nuclear bombardment to just kill all of them.

[Anonymous No.15860812]

>>15860781
Funny how he thinks he can go to mars ina clearly hyper leo optimized rocket like the shuttle which people complain about so much. makes. ya. think.

[Anonymous No.15860811]

>>15860802
>Nobody is even proposing an invasion of Russia
I am.
They must pay for what they did to the N1.

[Anonymous No.15860814]

WE ARE GOING
GODSPEED STARSHIP

[Anonymous No.15860822]

MUSK MEETING WITH XI
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-14/musk-citi-s-fraser-among-the-ceos-wooing-china-s-xi-at-apec
>Some of the biggest names in American business are scheduled to attend the summit, among them Citigroup’s Jane Fraser, Exxon’s Darren Woods, Microsoft’s Satya Nadella and Tesla Inc. and SpaceX’s Elon Musk. A number of executives have been invited to dine with Xi, according to people familiar with the plans, a chance for them to air their concerns and ambitions in a less formal setting.

[Anonymous No.15860825]

>>15860809
Strategic bombing doesn't win wars. It didn't work in Germany, it didn't work in Japan when Tokyo was burned to the ground. It didn't work in Korea or Vietnam. Iraq was defeated by troops on the ground using bulldozers to bury the republican guard in their own trenches. You cannot defeat the PRC and split up China using air power alone. The idea of bombers alone winning wars is complete fantasy.

[Anonymous No.15860832]

>>15860812
Well anon, you see...
>build the world's best LEO rocket ever for launching tens of thousands of satellites
>??????
>Mars Colony
Do I really need to explain this to you? It's so obvious. This clearly is Elon Musk's plan to save humanity.

[Anonymous No.15860833]

>>15860822
Techbros win again! Redditors seething. STRONG CHINA

[Anonymous No.15860835]

>>15860825
Pre-PGM pray n spray iron bombs are not at all comparable to GPS/laser/inertial guided nukes.

[Anonymous No.15860838]

>>15858033
Take me back to the days when the tv spying on you was a conspiracy theory

[Anonymous No.15860839]

>>15860835
>>15860825
>>15860809
>>15860802
Fuck

Off

[Anonymous No.15860840]

>>15860822
auspicious

[Anonymous No.15860841]

>>15860832
kek. muskrats drown at this information.

[Anonymous No.15860844]

>>15860822
Nice, he already met most of the cabinet earlier this year

[Anonymous No.15860846]

>>15860812
Getting mass to LEO is the main bottleneck for spaceflight (at least until we reach a stage where going to Mars is trivial). Starship is designed to have exactly the dv needed for a Mars mission with refueling and ISRU, but even if that doesn't work for whatever reason it can still be used to pursue a more traditional Mars architecture.

[Anonymous No.15860847]

Elon Musk is God, as well as His Son on Earth

[Anonymous No.15860848]

Go Clear!
Go SpaceX!
Go Starship!

[Anonymous No.15860849]

>>15860835
We've been over this already, China has too many nukes to nuke China into submission. And do you really think Russia would just sit there and watch America nuke China? They would have to know that they would be next. America is not insane enough to take these risks.

>>15860841
I support Elon Musk, SpaceX is America's ace up our sleeve. America needs Starship; the sooner it starts flying the better. But it's not for going to Mars. That's just a pipe dream to motivate idealistic engineers who grew up on Star Trek.

[Anonymous No.15860856]

>>15860846
>>Getting mass to LEO is the main bottleneck for spaceflight (at least until we reach a stage where going to Mars is trivial).
Assuming Starship flies this year and is in serial production next year, how many more years will it take to develop all the Mars colony habitat technology, set up the requisite organizations, and develop a sustainable Mars colony economy? Decades at least. Starship is nearly ready but prospective Mars colonists are not.

[Anonymous No.15860861]

>>15860856
going≠settling

[Anonymous No.15860862]

>>15860107
Yet another Berger win for the books

[Anonymous No.15860865]

>>15860248

[Anonymous No.15860867]

>>15860861
So what then, Apollo but on Mars? If you're not settling in then you're just a tourist doing a political stunt.

[Anonymous No.15860869]

>>15860849
I personally don't like that crook and I'm looking forward to his rocket blowing up on friday

[Anonymous No.15860873]

>>15860475
none, because I will perform the necessary sacrifices

[Anonymous No.15860878]

>>15860867
going just to do a short stay is just one of the steps REQUIRED for settlement and colonisation
they didn't land on the moon with the very first apollo mission, it took many small steps as individual missions including from gemini and mercury to get there

[Anonymous No.15860879]

oh boy, what do I have to do hereto talk to the manager? can someone explain to me why everyone in this thread gawks at the ugly fat cousin of the space shuttle musk is building. what's it even for? its certainly not going to Mars. ever.

[Anonymous No.15860881]

>>15860878
thanks for the history faggot. now do me a favor and bend forward so I can give you a wedgie.

[Anonymous No.15860882]

the biggest news in 7 months and some of you still can't stop posting shitposts
seek help

[Anonymous No.15860883]

>>15860869
gutter-oil encrusted fingers typed this post

[Anonymous No.15860885]

>>15860882
They are mentally ill

[Anonymous No.15860886]

>>15860867
The point is that the actual ability to transit materials to Mars is directly and inextricably tied to how much mass can get put in LEO for each dollar spent. Launching into Earth orbit is (at least in dv) the most expensive part of any mission and until that is taken care of then the actual logistics of colonization are completely useless.
>So what then, Apollo but on Mars
For a few missions, sure, alongside the gradual establishment of an Antarctica style Mars base with rotating crew to help determine the necessary steps for colonization and long-term human settlement. Actually being able to get things there is the first step and until you can do that the rest is just a daydream.

[Anonymous No.15860887]

>>15860879
It's for launching massive amounts of satellites. it will be the most powerful rocket ever flown by an extremely large margin. The shuttle has nothing on it.

[Anonymous No.15860888]

>>15860778
ultima thule

[Anonymous No.15860890]

>>15860886
>Antarctica style Mars base
We can't even do a Mars style Antarctica base. Starship is nearly complete but the serious colony/base work hasn't even begun.

[Anonymous No.15860891]

>>15860882
what the fuck else are we going to do for two days?

[Anonymous No.15860893]

>>15860887
shuttle could launch satelites too. correct me if I'm wrong?

[Anonymous No.15860899]

>>15860890
>the serious colony/base work hasn't even begun
Yeah. Probably because it can't happen until we can reliably and frequently execute small-scale manned missions to Mars, and that won't happen for another decade or more in even the most optimistic Starship timeline

[Anonymous No.15860902]

>>15860899
2 decades minimum. most likely humans will land on Mars for the 100th anniversary of the apollo 11 landing.

[Anonymous No.15860903]

>>15860893
stop trying to discuss the shuttle, you fucking pervert

[Anonymous No.15860904]

>>15860778
Orcus (the thinking man's Pluto)

[Anonymous No.15860905]

>>15860893
A rowboat can carry cargo. So can a cargo ship.
The shuttle was trash, stop trying to defend the shuttle.

[Anonymous No.15860906]

>>15860812
The vehicle relies on refilling on 1300 tonnes of propellant in LEO in order to go to Mars, and therefore needs to be optimized to carry mass to LEO

[Anonymous No.15860909]

>>15860867
>there is no gradient between short stay flags & footprints and full colonization
kill yourself right now

[Anonymous No.15860917]

>>15860893
Shuttle could carry as much cargo as a Falcon 9, to LEO. It couldn't carry as much payload to GTO as a fucking Electron.
Meanwhile Starship can launch Shuttle's maximum LEO payload to GTO in a sibgle launch with no refueling and full recovery and reuse of both stages.
Shuttle fucking sucked.

[Anonymous No.15860919]

>>15860893
ESL, or autism? "has nothing on it" is an idiom, it means the shuttle has no advantage whatsoever over Starship, not that the shuttle had no cargo at all.
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/has+nothing+on+it

Shittle could bring 27 tons to LEO. Starship will bring 150+ tons to LEO, and for a tiny fraction of the price. The Shittle system was only partially reusable and only then with extensive and expensive overhauling. SpaceX's re-usability is actually economical, they have already proven that economical reusability is possible with Falcon 9 and Starship applies all the lessons they learned there and then more.

[Anonymous No.15860951]

FWS status tho?

[Anonymous No.15860955]

>>15860951
Total Shark Death soon.

[Anonymous No.15860960]

>>15860951
It's all approved anon. We are go.

[Anonymous No.15860963]

>>15860951
they signed off on it. SeX has a greenlight, though of course it could theoretically be revoked

[Anonymous No.15860965]

>>15860951
We just dont know

[Anonymous No.15860969]

Let's frickin GOOO

[Anonymous No.15860979]

>>15860955
assimilated

[Anonymous No.15860983]

>>15860979
sick

[Anonymous No.15860984]

>>15860760

[Anonymous No.15860986]

based
https://twitter.com/ashleevance/status/1724872339316482054

[Anonymous No.15860992]

>>15860563
Explain to a brainlet why this couldn't work. Would the gases segregate in the tank?

[Anonymous No.15860993]

>>15860986
Reminder that this guy is a fag and Elon hung up on him live on stream

[Anonymous No.15860995]

>>15860566
Alien simps will call this racist

[Anonymous No.15860996]

900 posts by page 6? We are so FUCKING back.
>>15860986
KYS that fucker wasted the IFT-1 interview and we NEVER got more info on it because this negroid asked him stupid questions about Ukraine instead of focusing on the FUCKING DETAILS REEEEEEEEEEE I HATE HIM SO MUCH

[Anonymous No.15860997]

>>15860993
vance is profoundly dumb and seems to take proud in how dumb he is

[Anonymous No.15860999]

>>15860996
>900 posts by page 6? We are so FUCKING back.
it helps that half the catalog was deleted. But yes, we are.

[Anonymous No.15861002]

>>15860951
The fish are cool with it. The wildlife agreed too.

[Anonymous No.15861005]

fuuuuck so this launch window runs from 8-10AM EST? i'll have to wake up at like 6 then, but lets pray to jesus that this shit gets done right quick so we can keep this pace going. no explosions. Also proud of you autists for not doing some gay newfag shit like early staging even when the catty got wiped, seems like IFT-2 is going to be only oldDEITIES which is GREAT

[Anonymous No.15861012]

>8-10AM EST launch window
pretty comfy desu and lines up well with my morning routine
we are SO back

[Anonymous No.15861016]

>>15860979
imagine my shark

[Anonymous No.15861020]

>6-8am MST launch window
fuck me i hope i wake up

[Anonymous No.15861026]

I will skip work on friday if it still looks like it's gonna happen in 24 hours

[Anonymous No.15861027]

>>15860992
>Explain to a brainlet why this couldn't work
It does work
It just tends to work very quickly

[Anonymous No.15861029]

>>15860979
Private StarShips will get paint jobs like this hopefully

[Anonymous No.15861040]

Oh the humanity... cancel the launch immediately or THIS will happen...

[Anonymous No.15861041]

>>15861005
yeah wake up at 6AM to sit through the fuel loading, pre-launch checks, delays, etc,

[Anonymous No.15861043]

>>15860997
So is his colleague Loren Gash formerly with the Vag. Bloomberg sucks.

[Anonymous No.15861046]

[Anonymous No.15861047]

>>15861043
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.15861048]

>>15861047
>Elon
"Sorry what were you asking I tune out when women are speaking"

[Anonymous No.15861049]

>>15861047
Miss piggy needs to be turned into bacon

[Anonymous No.15861054]

>>15861043
>>15861048
>>15861049
Wow you guys are really awful. I have half a mind to forward this thread to her so she can put you on blast

[Anonymous No.15861056]

>Going to be driving at exactly 8-10AM friday

[Anonymous No.15861060]

>>15861054
lmao I was making fun of Elon you idiot

[Anonymous No.15861061]

>>15861056
>going to be watching the launch live and in person

[Anonymous No.15861062]

>>15861054
lol please do, I would love to ruin her day

[Anonymous No.15861063]

>>15861060
replied to bait again award

[Anonymous No.15861064]

>>15861063
NOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15861065]

>>15861062
>>15861063

[Anonymous No.15861067]

>>15861065
I knew it was bait and I want him to do it anyway

[Anonymous No.15861068]

>>15861063
>>15861063

[Anonymous No.15861070]

>>15861063
Indeed. All fools

[Anonymous No.15861082]

>>15861060
To be fair, you were making light of a hypothetical sexist scenario

[Anonymous No.15861086]

>>15861082
idc

[Anonymous No.15861088]

stop trying to bait this general retard

[Anonymous No.15861090]

>>15861088

[Anonymous No.15861099]

been out for months
>hot staging
are those grills gonna survive max Q with starship on top of it?

[Anonymous No.15861102]

>>15861099
yes to every question you have, but probably not the first time around

[Anonymous No.15861103]

>>15861082
He literally said
>can you repeat that? Sorry I wasn’t listening
To a wamen who asked him a question at the starship presentation

[Anonymous No.15861105]

>>15861099
grills will be fine

[Anonymous No.15861106]

>>15861103
So in other words you agree that it's sexist and you still support it? whether or not it really happened doesnt matter, and really only makes it worse

[Anonymous No.15861109]

>>15861106
>its sexist because it happened to be a woman
now that's sexist

[Anonymous No.15861112]

>>15861109
oh fuck off

[Anonymous No.15861114]

>>15861099
We'll find out but it's not the ring that's the problem, it's the top bulkhead.

[Anonymous No.15861120]

>>15861112
>>15861063

[Anonymous No.15861122]

>>15861106
>>15861112
K

[Anonymous No.15861124]

I have a REALLY bad feeling about this one.

[Anonymous No.15861128]

>>15861124
Me too but I’m talking about the poop that I’m poopin rn

[Anonymous No.15861133]

>>15861120
>>15861063

[Anonymous No.15861135]

>>15861124
SN11 atmospheric kino maybe. Fog and shrapnel.

[Anonymous No.15861136]

what is it about /sfg/ and pooping

[Anonymous No.15861144]

>>15861136
We're all Isaac Arthur fans here

[Anonymous No.15861161]

Something scrumptuous for my tummy
appear on the general of ess eff gee

[Anonymous No.15861163]

>>15861136
I'm going to poop on an ocelot nest

[Anonymous No.15861164]

I'm going to start driving from Houston at midnight on Thursday night, arrive and watch the launch, then drive back.

[Anonymous No.15861168]

did the hot stage ring made the stack taller?

[Anonymous No.15861169]

>>15861135
I'm going to be pissed if it's foggy and we see jack shit

[Anonymous No.15861171]

>>15861168
nope, its the same height

[Anonymous No.15861173]

>>15861168
the weight of it compresses superheavy and >>15861171

[Anonymous No.15861178]

>>15861163
ocelots are mammals, they dont make nests

[Anonymous No.15861179]

holy fuck elon musk really needs to read the room

[Anonymous No.15861184]

>>15861178
Sorry I meant a plover nest. All the animals I want to genocide kind of blend into one you feel me

[Anonymous No.15861186]

>>15861178
Huh? Plenty of mammals makes nests. Like squirrels and ocelots.

[Anonymous No.15861189]

I wanna live inside the grills

[Anonymous No.15861193]

>>15861189
The cuck cage will be your method of execution

[Anonymous No.15861196]

>>15861189
that will be a future execution method you know

[Anonymous No.15861199]

Wouldn't the grid fins get fucked? or do they experience way more stress when landing than this?

[Anonymous No.15861207]

>>15861199
no, they are stronk

[Anonymous No.15861238]

>>15861184
>>15861186
who do i believe

[Anonymous No.15861240]

>>15861099
They put that ring in a jig that loaded it with more than the maximum force it'll endure during launch, should be fine.

[Anonymous No.15861244]

>>15861168
yes by about 2 meters

[Anonymous No.15861249]

>>15861244
lies

[Anonymous No.15861250]

>>15861168
we dont know yet

[Anonymous No.15861251]

>>15861178
Deboonked. Next time get your facts straight before posting on the internet, sweaty

[Anonymous No.15861252]

>>15861199
The grid fins are probably strong enough to handle the stage falling over in the water, some expanded exhaust gasses during stage sep won't do shit.

[Anonymous No.15861260]

>wh-why do you want me dead, anonsama?

[Anonymous No.15861263]

ONE THOUSAND REPLIES BEFORE PAGE TEN
OVERTRANNY FROGSISTERS BEGONE, WE ARE BACK-ER THAN WE HAVE EVER BEEN

[Anonymous No.15861265]

>>15861260
Cats are niggers and we should never have domesticated you. All you little shits do is run around torturing birds for fun. TOD

[Anonymous No.15861266]

>>15861251
that's a zoo you fool

[Anonymous No.15861268]

1k get

[Anonymous No.15861270]

>>15861263
Its once it detonates on the mount

[Anonymous No.15861271]

[Anonymous No.15861274]

>>15861268
holy fail just kys now
>>15861270
gj stealing the 1000 anon

[Anonymous No.15861277]

btw we're getting raided if u couldnt tell

[Anonymous No.15861280]

>>15861277
Essex is spaceflight related

[Anonymous No.15861282]

>>15861277
pathetic raid attempt. couldnt even get the 100th post on a slow as fuck board? christ

[Anonymous No.15861293]

>>15861280
When you think about it a boat is just a blimp....

[Anonymous No.15861315]

>>15861268
can u post the spacex version? shes so cute

[Anonymous No.15861317]

>>15861315
obvious samefag ur raid is so shit.

[Anonymous No.15861320]

>>15861046
We getting a lightshow?

[Anonymous No.15861321]

>>15861266
>>15861280
retard

[Anonymous No.15861330]

[Anonymous No.15861349]

>>15861330
never said it wasnt true

[Anonymous No.15861355]

>>15860685
>As soon as domestic facilities can produce a sufficient supply of DoD-compliant microchips
https://youtu.be/EIWHvPP0U64

[Anonymous No.15861356]

>>15861317
No

[Anonymous No.15861359]

>>15861268
Nice, you got it!

[Anonymous No.15861361]

>16:00-18:00
Might have to watch this from uni. But that's alright, I watched IFT-1 while on a bus.

[Anonymous No.15861367]

I can't watch it at all. Enjoy it for me, /sfg/.

[Anonymous No.15861368]

>>15861367
it'll scrub thanlfully

[Anonymous No.15861377]

>>15861368
now that you said this it wont scrub

[Anonymous No.15861381]

>>15861377
2 hour window isnt enough really, they need at least a 4 hour window to recycle

[Anonymous No.15861382]

>>15861320
Doesn't look like it. /sfg/ memes will have to remain dreams for another day.

[Anonymous No.15861384]

I hope my wife will be present on friday

[Anonymous No.15861385]

>>15861384
i fingered your wife in a nightclub

[Anonymous No.15861389]

>>15861330
>arianspace buying ula
what a fucking clown show

[Anonymous No.15861390]

>>15861384
Mogged by Kate, as per usual.

[Anonymous No.15861393]

>>15861384
love her pierced nips :)

[Anonymous No.15861394]

>>15861385
No you didnt, Frank

[Anonymous No.15861395]

>>15860992
A rocket is a controlled explosion. Premixing leads to the exact opposite of controlled.

[Anonymous No.15861396]

>>15861393
Does anyone have that pic?? hnnng fucking slut

[Anonymous No.15861397]

>>15861395
just don't have an ignition source

[Anonymous No.15861401]

>>15861396
hope she brings them out for the webcast

[Anonymous No.15861403]

>>15861401
total whore

[Anonymous No.15861409]

>>15861389
Does this exclude them from launching national security payloads?

[Anonymous No.15861419]

>>15861390
>ywn be her wolf and get kisses

[Anonymous No.15861421]

>>15861419
yjk

[Anonymous No.15861427]

>>15861419
much more preferable than niggers, to be quite honest with you.

[Anonymous No.15861428]

>>15861419
yjk

[Anonymous No.15861447]

Could we maybe not derail the license thread?

[Anonymous No.15861451]

>>15861447
You're a little late, buddy. The /k/ shit was hours ago.

[Anonymous No.15861456]

>>15861447
its only a little derailed

[Anonymous No.15861457]

>>15860659
depends on it's orientation.

[Anonymous No.15861462]

>>15860280
wtf
Henry Ford reincarnated?

[Anonymous No.15861466]

>>15860685
>This leaves the US essentially unopposed as a global power
somber reminder that this almost already happened after ww2 and after the soviet untion Collapnsed

[Anonymous No.15861470]

>>15860280
is starlink's success emboldening him?

[Anonymous No.15861472]

>>15861470
twitter has always been 50% tribal shitflinging / 50% news. what he said is relatively tame compared to many of the posts.

[Anonymous No.15861476]

>>15861462
With any luck

[Anonymous No.15861482]

>>15861476
Henry Ford was an American industrialist

[Anonymous No.15861484]

>>15860812
If SpaceX just wanted a LEO optimized thing, why the fuck would they make it superheavy and introduce a bunch of pains in the ass? Think about it, its meant to be fully and rapidly reusable, the only major cost is propellant that scales with vehicle and payload size. No major difference between sending 20 flights that cost 400K to launch and bring 20 tons to orbit and doing 4 flights on a vehichle that costs 2 million to launch and brings 100 tons to orbit. You're just adding pain by going as big as 150 or even 200 tons. Only reason you'd do it is sizing the vehichle out for mars.

[Anonymous No.15861500]

>>15861482
Thank you ChatGPT

[Anonymous No.15861504]

>>15860685
Thats the US's hope. But war between peers is something the US has NEVER fought in its entire history. When the US fought against the Germans/Japanese, those two powers were completely exhausted by then.

[Anonymous No.15861505]

>>15861484
>No major difference between sending 20 flights that cost 400K to launch and bring 20 tons to orbit and doing 4 flights on a vehichle that costs 2 million to launch and brings 100 tons to orbit

What vehicle can launch 20 tonnes for 400k?

[Anonymous No.15861506]

>>15861484
20 tons is the payload class of Falcon 9, and its economy of scale maxes out at 20 tons for $20 million, and SpaceX wouldn't make a single dime at that price.

[Anonymous No.15861510]

>>15861505
>>15861506
Literally just a scaled down Starship. Again, the majority of costs are just how many liters of propellant you need to buy IF both stages are fully reusable, unlike falcon. Also no need to recover payload fairing in that scenario. Essentially look at Stoke's Nova to see what a scaled down Starship might look like. By the way if Stoke is planning on orbital refueling, there's clearly an economic case for small, but cheap and rapidly and fully reusabable launchers. The reasons falcon 9 maxes out cheapness out at 20 million is because they need an expendable second stage and they need to recover the fairings from the ocean and the majority of time they need to land on a drone ship and they have to take a bunch of time to go and integrate another stage to the booster. Delete that shit, just do purely RTLS, have an integrated payload bay, have really quick stacking like Starship and Mechazilla have. That alone lets you massively drive up cadence and economies of scale.

[Anonymous No.15861515]

>>15861510
Which means your rocket needs to be bigger to achieve the same payload capacities, and you're forgetting something about the architecture:
Starship is sized for Starlink v2.

[Anonymous No.15861518]

>>15861515
Then just keep launching Starlinks that are smaller and less heavy, just in greater volume.

[Anonymous No.15861519]

>>15861518
The constellation is more capable with a larger satellite bus. Decreasing the size of each one will reduce the capacity of the network and force a lower bandwidth/service saturation point.

[Anonymous No.15861523]

>>15861510
When you are fuelling methalox, the majority cost of a launch is NOT fuel. It's everything else, less launches with bigger rockets is always cheaper. They figured this shit out over half a century ago now fuck off imbecile.

[Anonymous No.15861529]

>>15861510
>Literally just a scaled down Starship

On what planet do you think you can launch a Falcon 9 sized starship, including all the increased sized booster to lift it, mass penalties for heatshield and such along with the cost of recovery, refurbishment/repair/ancillary fees/whatever for 400k? Were you even Here when they decided to shitcan a recoverable f9 second stage because it was obviously a useless effort?

[Anonymous No.15861544]

Teams are cleaning the shit out the launch pad . Lift jig, s25 transport stand , boxes of stuff , etc . Out

T minus 27h and counting

[Anonymous No.15861553]

>>15861510
Your proposition is a Falcon 9 sized vehicle that can lift the same tonnage to orbit while always returning to launch site (bigger booster needed for extra fuel+dry mass) and having a second stage that is self landing with a heatshield and integrated payload bay (hugely bigger booster again) for *checks notes* 0.8% of the commercial cost of a Falcon 9 or 2% the alleged internal cost of a Falcon 9. You should apply to SpaceX because I'm sure they would be fascinated by your proposals.

[Anonymous No.15861555]

>we can't colonize mars, what about the perchlorates!
https://phys.org/news/2021-06-catalyst-perchlorate-martian-soil.html
It's that easy, just wash them away.

[Anonymous No.15861561]

>>15861555
checked and zubrinpilled

[Anonymous No.15861563]

They will send a drone ship near the re-entry site? We will get live coverage of sea landing?

[Anonymous No.15861578]

>>15861563
If there isn't one there already it's a bit late now. There is a glowie optical tracking station in Hawaii and maybe they'll get a hand from some US navy warships. We got live streamed footage from NASA aircraft during the OSIRIS-REx sample return. Maybe we get it again.

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20210020835

[Anonymous No.15861596]

That WB-57 footage was overrated.

[Anonymous No.15861599]

>>15861596
The target was rather miniscule compared to Starship.

[Anonymous No.15861603]

>>15861384
She looks like she does rimming videos to Blackedraw.

[Anonymous No.15861608]

mutt's law strikes again.

[Anonymous No.15861666]

Uh... b.. bros?... Why is starship hyper LEO optimized? I'm beginning to think the richest man in the world isn't actually our friend.

[Anonymous No.15861669]

>>15861666
thanks satan, nice tip.

[Anonymous No.15861676]

>>15861384
damn, this hookers got a nasally voice.
We need my man INSPRUCKER or as I call him INSPIRATION

[Anonymous No.15861680]

T - 1d 1h 25min

I will always remember a quote from the movie/documentary "Apollo 11" , it goes like this :

"This is of course the great day for mankind when we leave our planet Earth and set foot on the moon. "

I like to imagine Starship has a group of 4 onboard heading to the moon with this quote in mind

[Anonymous No.15861683]

>>15861680
Certified reddit post

[Anonymous No.15861684]

bros i can't fucking wait
launch it now

[Anonymous No.15861689]

Hey all, E sent internal comms to ask that we only call it ‘Flight 2’. IFT/OFT or other such acronyms are in violation of company policy and make you look like larpers on X.

[Anonymous No.15861691]

>>15861683
im getting really sick of people like you , go fuck yourself idiot

[Anonymous No.15861692]

>>15861689
I don't believe that spacex employees actually call him E, that's silly.

[Anonymous No.15861693]

>>15861666
why is
>thing that isn't true
true bros?

why do people keep asking those questions?

[Anonymous No.15861694]

>>15861691
Imagine this post as a basedjack representing you

[Anonymous No.15861695]

>>15861684
you will see the light of allah

[Anonymous No.15861696]

>>15861691
Dunno that post look reddit as fuck, perhaps you should consider killing yourself?

[Anonymous No.15861697]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tloD5DLYZO8

[Anonymous No.15861703]

>>15861359
only for retards that don't have 4chanX or clover

[Anonymous No.15861707]

>>15861510
>mini starship
stealth zubrinposting
cloaked psyop
out the pisslock with you

[Anonymous No.15861710]

[Anonymous No.15861711]

>1000 posts
>page 8
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LET US STAGE ALREADY

[Anonymous No.15861714]

well well well. looks like my time is near.
t. bfr critics collage maker

[Anonymous No.15861719]

>>15861714
Still edging for this

[Anonymous No.15861721]

>>15861529
>>15861707
Ok, not exactly Starship. Basically something like Stoke's Nova scaled up to have 20-50 tons of reusable capability. And no I'm not advocating for it, Starship is clearly better, its just that there was a lot of design work to make it suitable for mars, especially the raptors. Seriously, "coking" is a meme problem with kerolox, they chose methalox because it could be ISRU'd on mars. And here's something interesting, you'd think SpaceX wouldn't include a big ass engine skirt for Starship right? Just excess mass AND it prevents you from being able to radiatively cool your engines. I mean, if you already designed the booster to be caught with a tower, why not do the same with the ship? Maybe re-entry aerodynamics, but I think you could reduce the size of the skirt while protecting components and shifting mass to some kind of interstage. To me, the only good reason would be storing landing legs in the skirt when you touch down on Mars.

[Anonymous No.15861723]

>>15861710
beautiful

[Anonymous No.15861725]

>>15861693
He isn't wrong, it is optimised for LEO. But that's also exactly what you would want for any useful platform. Cheap fuel, cargo, passenger delivery to the easiest stable orbit. Yes you could use it to shit out radar guided interceptors just as easily as you could use it to fill depots for Mars transit vehicles. Just don't engage him you stupid fucking nigger I'm tired of you dickheads replying to this fucking samefag. Brilliant pebble direct into your faggots skull cavity cunt.

[Anonymous No.15861728]

>>15861719
it's going to be fine, nothing crazy. most critical posts are about more far-off goals like the first mars landing or first re-use after all

[Anonymous No.15861730]

>>15861721
Try making a coherent post with a point instead of a bunch of non sequiter run on sentences.

[Anonymous No.15861735]

>>15861734
>>15861734
>>15861734
>>15861734

Staging.

[Anonymous No.15861740]

>>15861735
IT'S ON PAGE EIGHT NIGGER

[Anonymous No.15861742]

>>15861735
HOLD HOLD HOLD

[Anonymous No.15861746]

>>15861735
ACTIVATE FTS

[Anonymous No.15861751]

>>15861711
stupid anon, it's comfy down here.

[Anonymous No.15861754]

>>15861735
>>15861751
so I scroll down and you staged early. stupid nigger, I WILL NOT be going to page 1.

[Anonymous No.15861760]

>>15861728
I'll coom nonetheless

[Anonymous No.15861779]

>Launch goes perfectly
>Booster sepperas with no damage to hot staging ring or ship
>Booster lands in gulf of mexico as planned
>SpaceX and FAA crew get on a boat and look at the wreck
>Underneath the shattered stainless steel and titanium grid fins, they find the broken body of an endangered shark
It will unironically be so over

[Anonymous No.15861835]

>>15860056
>>15860057
>>15860280
Holy shit this day is fucking wild.
I don't have any sufficiently high enough energy reaction pics for this.

[Anonymous No.15861840]

>>15859871
>Soon we are launching the spaceplane of the 21st century
The dreamchaser?

[Anonymous No.15861854]

>>15860475
Over a hundred
It will spontaneously generate new engines just so they can fail baffling everybody for years
This will eventually lead to the discovery of a new fundamental force of the universe.
Within the next century human colonies will be established at new stars driven by ships powered by the energy to mass converting powers of (it's so)Over drive.

[Anonymous No.15861878]

>>15861703
i have 4chanx i made that post when i saw the comments at 999

seethe

[Anonymous No.15861926]

>>15860107
Man, you think people like him would keep obnoxiously shitposting if someone just beat them up irl one day? The other guy I mean, I wouldn't beat up Eric.

[Anonymous No.15861928]

>>15861666
Get thee behind me, class-envy satan.
Any man who enables us to nuke commies without fear of reprisal is a friend of mine.

[Anonymous No.15862046]

>>15861666
>Why is starship hyper LEO optimized?
Its BEO capabilities were designed around orbital refueling. If it was less capable as an LEO-optimized launch vehicle, it would have less Delta-V capacity when refueled in orbit and require more propellant launches to refuel.

[Anonymous No.15862107]

>>15861666
Important for you to buy a razor and cut your own throat

[Anonymous No.15862466]

>>15860629
page 10 exists now, but theres only a few gay threads on it, we'll get there before tomorrow

[Anonymous No.15862512]

Posting in legitimate /sfg/ thread

[Anonymous No.15862525]

>>15862512
kys

[Anonymous No.15862533]

>>15862525
consider doing that to yourself you deranged degenerate

[Anonymous No.15862536]

>>15862533
stay in this corpse of a thread then you colossal faggot

[Anonymous No.15862547]

>>15862512
I am also here until page 10, anon.

[Anonymous No.15862567]

>>15860760
rule 63 Emperor Leto

[Anonymous No.15862619]

>>15860992
you should read Ignition!

[Anonymous No.15862665]

its page 10

[Anonymous No.15862713]

>>15861695
kemonomimi is kemono

[Anonymous No.15862724]

>>15862665
yaaaaaaaaaaay

[Anonymous No.15863044]

>>15861779
Better yet would be some rare whale or porpoise

[Anonymous No.15863071]

Pushed back to Saturday, gotta change out a grind fin actuator.

[Anonymous No.15863081]

>>15863071
we know shithead

[Anonymous No.15863083]

>>15863044
there actually is a critically endangered species of whale in the northern Gulf of Mexico, the Rice's whale

[Anonymous No.15863086]

you ever just shit on somebody