/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15849683]

Did anyone notice how the year everyone got the vaccine (2021) has a significantly lower mortality in young people than normal years? Look at pre-pandemic numbers, 2019. This year and last year look very similar to 2019, so I'd call the mortality normal, but when we got the vaccine, young people were dying LESS than usual. Only when we stopped vaccinating the young is when we hit pre-pandemic numbers again.

[Anonymous No.15849751]

>>15849683
do you have data on vaccination rates for each year?

[Anonymous No.15849757]

>>15849751
Not at hand, do you? Everyone I know got vaccinated in 2021 though.

[Anonymous No.15849770]

>>15849683
Incomplete analysis. Nobody is fully vaccinated and this winter marks the rollout of the bivalent series booster booster. Roughly 150 million doses have been delivered since 2021. Looks like its just the jab killing kids.

[Anonymous No.15849855]

>>15849770
>Looks like its just the jab killing kids.
What was killing them in 2019?

[Anonymous No.15849862]

>>15849855
That was a very bad flu year and young people are most vulnerable to flus.

[Anonymous No.15849868]

>>15849862
So the vaccine is not more dangerous than the flu?

[Anonymous No.15849869]

>>15849683
Automobile accidents are one of the top killers of young people. Overlay that graph on one of average miles traveled by age group.
Here's a graph of teen deaths pre-pandemic. Notice anything? What would happen if that group was part of a nationwide stay-at-home order that prevented them from driving anywhere?

[Anonymous No.15849870]

>>15849868
What are you even talking about?

[Anonymous No.15850036]

>>15849870
2019 was much worse than 2021, so the flu is much worse than the vaccine.

[Anonymous No.15850038]

>>15849869
So the numbers being the same in 2019, 2022 and 2023 shows that they're not dying because of the vaxx but they're dying because of cars?

[Anonymous No.15850057]

>>15849683
The EUA for kids/teens <16 was in may 2021.
That would be around the 16-20 week mark.
Notice that is when the curve starts going up.
If anything, the graph shows the exact opposite of what you claim.

As >>15849869 alludes, there were likely other behavioral changes that lowered the deaths.

[Anonymous No.15850060]

>>15850038
Could be. Show the graphs so we will know.

[Anonymous No.15850062]

>>15850060
See >>15849683

[Anonymous No.15850667]

>>15850057
It goes up at the same rate as 2019.

[Anonymous No.15851283]

Bump

[Anonymous No.15851912]

>>15849683
Important

[Anonymous No.15851962]

>>15849683
When we started vaccinating people is when excess deaths started going up with the same slope as 2022 though

[Anonymous No.15851975]

>>15851962
And the same slope as 2019.

[Anonymous No.15852068]

>>15851975
No, it's the same increase in about 60% of the time

[Anonymous No.15852092]

>>15849683
correlate with a chart on flu infections

[Anonymous No.15852109]

>>15852092
Correct. It's the flu, not the vaxx.

[Anonymous No.15852133]

>>15849683
This is dumb and you should feel dumb for thinking this.

Can you think of anything else that might have impacted overall net mortality in the era of the lockdowns? Perhaps the restrictions on people's movements and physical interactions that contributed to the numerous other sources of all-cause mortality in 2019?

Considering the number of young people who die of illness every year is fairly small compared to the number of young people who die as a result of non-illness related vectors (suicide, homicide, car accidents, etc.) it seems incredibly irresponsible to suggest the vaccination rates are "the cause" of either an increase or decrease in all cause mortality.

[Anonymous No.15852183]

>>15852133
>Perhaps the restrictions on people's movements and physical interactions that contributed to the numerous other sources of all-cause mortality in 2019?
What happened to you in 2019?

[Anonymous No.15852260]

>>15852183
Nothing to me personally. People were much more free to be out and about and physically interacting in 2019 than in 2020 and 2021.

As a result, a lot of deaths occurred due to things like drunk driving, physical work accidents on the job, personal alterations resulting in an accidental death etc.

This was pretty much completely halted when people were either forcibly locked down under threat of legal penalty, or implicitly locked down by things like bars and restaurants being shut down or forced to run at limited capacity. These factors which changed peoples' behavior around "high risk activities" (drinking and driving, large public gatherings) are very likely to be reflected in reduction in all cause mortality.

[Anonymous No.15852299]

>>15849683
It doesn't occur to you that this correlates with everyone staying inside?
Are you really this dishonest or just an absolute retard?

[Anonymous No.15852890]

>>15852260
So, you're saying that there's zero overmortality due to the vaccine?

[Anonymous No.15852907]

>>15849683
Obviously the vaccine fucked them so hard they didn't have chance to have fun and get killed in some stupid accident. Later the accumulated damage caused by the vaccines send them to an early grave.

[Anonymous No.15852930]

>>15852890
How could you get that from what he said?

[Anonymous No.15854391]

>>15852890

[Anonymous No.15854411]

Obvious shill thread. Isn’t it weird how you keep being so pathetic? Must be a consistency in your life.

[Anonymous No.15855162]

>>15854411
>ad hominem

[Anonymous No.15856359]

>>15855162
this
its a good thread about science, anyone who would get upset about it probably has some sort of out of control emotional problems

[Anonymous No.15856371]

>>15855162
>>15856359
LMAO

[Anonymous No.15856375]

>>15854391
Do you have longer term excess mortality graphs you could share? I'm interested in seeing how the past two years compares in the longer term.

[Anonymous No.15856380]

>>15852890
No, I'm saying we can't easily separate out the causal effect from the vaccine (either in the direction of increased or decreased mortality) from the excess death figures due to how much of a confounding factor the behavior modifications during lockdown were.

[Anonymous No.15858012]

>>15856380
you got tricked by the trump vax scheme and you're too egotistical to ever admit that you were dumb enough to be wrong about anything

[Anonymous No.15858820]

>>15858012
Trump's cunning plan to eliminate the midwits is working like a charm.

[Anonymous No.15859059]

Here is a long term mortality rate graph for England.
Look at that HUGE scary jump in 2020, that's the greatest plague of all mankind, apparently.
Look at that MASSIVE gap between pre-2020 and post 2021 baselines, that's red deer vaxxies dying en masse, apparently.
We've nearly hit rates of death comparable to the year 2000. And that was an absolute hellscape as we all remember.
The only solution is to further empower our governments while pacifying our populaces.

[Anonymous No.15859068]

>>15859059
How the fuck am I supposed to tell what's 2020 and what's 2021? This could be just as well the brexit fallout we're seeing here.

[Anonymous No.15859069]

>>15856380
From a scientific point of view, the difference in the two categories matter but from a political point of view since it was the same political forces pushing both isolation and injections, it doesn't matter which was the cause since they both point back to the politicians who pushed both. Politicians aren't going to willingly accept responsibility for millions of deaths so they'll try to obfuscate everything and claim it would have been even worse without their leadership.

[Anonymous No.15859070]

>>15859059
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevention_paradox

[Anonymous No.15859072]

I hope normies never stop vaxxing honestly. It's really funny

[Barkun No.15859074]

>>15859070
Ion cannons are ion lazers in space that charge one way and then over charge another way through g-force hijack that causes a mass effect on the ground where the Lazer is pointed. The g force hijack creates a super symmetrical pulsation. Do you understand the sign taking in what you know about lazers?

[Anonymous No.15859096]

>>15859074
What are lazers?

[Anonymous No.15859098]

>>15849683
Excess deaths got redefined during the early vaccine rollout.
Add an order of magnitude to 2022+ for equivalent 2019- figures.

[Anonymous No.15859100]

>>15859072
They won't.
And That's A Good Thing

[Anonymous No.15859116]

>>15859072
You know that you’re literally paying for it?

[Anonymous No.15860587]

[Anonymous No.15861239]

>>15859116
You know that they're literally dying from it?

[Anonymous No.15861241]

>>15859116
I suspect that if you pressed him he would say that he would gladly pay more if normies died faster. Some people have this attitude towards the situation.

[Anonymous No.15861273]

>>15849683
Imma tell you a wild frigging hypothesis that the retarded medical soientists will take 10 years to confirm.
During Covid years young people were forced to stay home and participate in less outdoorsy stuffs hence they died less.
After covid restriction lifted they go out and did more wild stuffs due to pentup and died more.
Mark my words, the retards will take 10 years to confirm this.

[Anonymous No.15861399]

>>15861273
This, death cohenciding with vaccine rollout is pure conjecture.

[Anonymous No.15861413]

>>15860587
He died years after the vaccine lmao. Grasping for straws this badly? I guess, every death of a vaccinated person is a vax death to you.

[Anonymous No.15861582]

>>15861413
yeah. they also nuked their souls turning it over to satan

[Anonymous No.15861998]

>>15861413
>permanent dna change
>non-stop production of spike protein
>body can't get rid of them
>damage any tissue they contact
>damage to organs accumulates
>organ failure happens depending on multiple factors
>also turbo-cancer, lel
>all for protecting yourself from a disease that doesn't even exist

>since it's all delayed, it's never the vaccines, it's duvet shaking and eating eggs
YO, YOU HAPPY WITH YOUR (((LONG COVID))), KEK

[Anonymous No.15862015]

>>15856375
Its easy:
>since 2000 the excess mortality was decreasing
>and hit an all time low in 2020
>this was bad for the social financial systems
>rolled out vaccine
>now the excess mortality rate is as high as 2017
>2020 (the pandemic year) has the LOWEST excess mortality compared to the last 20 years.
>only as the vaccine got deployed the mortality increased
>protect the pension funds
>because they are unable to pay
>people got to healthy
>people avoided the meds
>its bad.

[Anonymous No.15862061]

>>15856375
Here for germany.
Excess mortality from 2000 til 2023.
Source: Destatis
As you can see 2000 is the lowest.
Prof. Dr. Kraus obtained mortality data for that time range for multiple countries and posted it here:
https://twitter.com/ProfStefanKraus

[Anonymous No.15864015]

>>15850057
There are seasonal trends for excess deaths, it forms a sine wave.

[Anonymous No.15864017]

>>15851975
>this nigga can't understand basic calculus

[Anonymous No.15864022]

>>15861998
>YO, YOU HAPPY WITH YOUR (((LONG COVID))), KEK
the vaccine and covid are both bioweapons, dumbasses. how do you think you would get everyone at once?
either you ignore covid or you get vaccinated, because otherwise you don't get to have a tribe.
long covid is caused by covid and by vaccines

[Anonymous No.15864024]

>>15861413
>he suddenly dropped dead weeks after getting his 5th tri-yearly vaccine
Did you forget it isn't a vaccine and that you have to get it every 4 months otherwise you aren't "vaccinated"?

[Anonymous No.15864028]

>>15861399
>>15861273
>death cohenciding with vaccine rollout is pure conjecture
>the 60% trend in excess death is only observed in countries with mass vaccination programs
What stage of cope will you be on in 2 years time when the trend doesn't go back down due to the vaxx causing permanent damage to the cardiovascular system?

[Anonymous No.15864083]

>>15864028
Look, we all know you're against the plane-saving vaccine because you're an antisemite, since jews are responsible for creating it, distributing it and, yes, profiting from their hard labour in saving human lives.

Next time you visit your granma, and she's still alive, never forget she have a jewish vaccine in her.
And maybe, just maybe you'll stop being such an antisemite, and insert the jewish vaccine in your body, too.

[Anonymous No.15864086]

>>15864028
>the 60% trend
What 60% trend? The overmortality of 400 kids?

[Anonymous No.15864294]

>>15859072
i showed normies the charts with extra death rates, the charts with vaxed vs unvaxed, i showed them this video, all i got back is fluoride stare or emotional outburts of anger.

normies will never stop doing whatever TV / youtube tells them to do. be it taking dna theraphy which generates toxic protein in their bodies for 6 months after "vaccination" or genociding their neighbors.

they have no free will, they have no critical thinking, they are akin to cattle. even people with high education often have fluoride stare because the education trained them to only listen to propaganda.

no wonder the ruling elite dont consider them human and treat them as such.

recently one my friend went for flu vax (now mixed with covid), i told him to not do it, gave him the data. day after he was hit with severe illness which lasted for two days. by his own words: i was so weak i couldnt lift my hands, spend them in bed whole day. i asked him what was the point in poisoining yourself and shortening your life span. you can guess: i was hit with fluoride stare.

cattle.

[Anonymous No.15864319]

>>15849683
>0-14 years
babies can't die if they aren't born

[Anonymous No.15864320]

>>15849683
Thank you mr CIA for spreading the truth

[Anonymous No.15864369]

>>15864294

>be it taking dna theraphy which generates toxic protein in their bodies for 6 months after "vaccination"

Debunked here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rldpmK4YX7A

[Anonymous No.15864378]

>>15864369
then why are the toxic spike proteins scattered through whole body and found in many organs like liver or brain or testicles or even breast milk 6 months after vaccination?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kEE5OfiVS7o

[Anonymous No.15864396]

>>15864378
You mean "why is a confirmed schizophrenic claiming that there are toxic spike proteins ..." and the answer is straightforward.

[Anonymous No.15864401]

>>15864022
>the vaccine and covid are both bioweapons, dumbasses. how do you think you would get everyone at once?
Probably by using a bioweapon that actually kills people.

[Anonymous No.15864404]

>>15864401
Noooooo you know, the evil bioweapon will work best if it only kills one in some 100,000 people! Oops, I didn't mean kill, I mean give a mostly unnoticed inflammation that will just go away without ever developing symptoms.