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Now that the dust has settled, let's investigate whether the covid vaccine was effective: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-44942-6
>We demonstrated the very high effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination in Japan during 2021, which reduced mortality by more than 97% compared with the counterfactual scenario.
So, were chuds wrong all along?

>> No.15847932

yeah

>> No.15847936
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15847936

100% effective at increasing profits.
100% protection for corporations.
0% protection against covid.
0% effective at stopping transmission.
Random chance of getting a severe medical condition.

>> No.15847945

>>15847936
It's funny because you're not reading what's linked in the OP, yet you preach your fantasy numbers.

>> No.15847982

>>15847936
>am sooo stoooooooopid, LOOK AT MEHHHHHH, MUH PICREL SO DEEEEEP !!!
can't help you with that.

>> No.15848118

>>15847921
Effective but relatively short lived benefits, to have meaningful protection from COVID, you needed a booster shot every 4-6 months. My stance remains the same as early 2022, high risk people (fats, elderly, etc) should get definitely the shot and boosters, it should be an encouraged option for most others to help mitigate spread. Children, who have not been affected almost at all by COVID, should probably not be given the vaccine except in rare cases. The myocarditis is mostly a meme as far as side effects go, COVID itself has a significant risk of myocarditis anyhow so if that's a criteria for why the vaccine is bad for you I guess if you're a shut in (like most of us here are), then you're probably fine not going the route of vaccination but for people who have a life outside of Internet-telework, it's something to have considered. Otherwise the pandemic is over and I don't know how well the current vaccines handle the current strain of COVID.

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>>15847921
>We demonstrated the very high effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccination in Japan during 2021, which reduced mortality by more than 97% compared with the counterfactual scenario.
>97% compared with the counterfactual scenario.
>compared with the counterfactual scenario.
>counterfactual scenario.
>counterfactual

Definition of 'counterfactual'
1. A counterfactual is a mental simulation where you think about something that happened, and then imagine an alternate ending.
2. a conditional statement in which the first clause is a past tense subjunctive statement expressing something contrary to fact, as in: "if she had hurried, she would have gotten the bus"
or "if we didn't had vaccinated, 90% of all people would have died".

>> No.15848153

>>15848132
>or "if we didn't had vaccinated, 90% of all people would have died".
That implies that 2.7% of all people died. This didn't happen.

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>>15848153

>> No.15848276

>>15847921
It's unironically safe and effective.

>> No.15848295

Why do injectionists get so angry when someone tells them "I hope you get boosted" if they're actually confident that the injections are safe and effective?

>> No.15848310

>>15847945
>we investigated ourselves and said we did a good job

>> No.15848315

>>15848310
???

>> No.15848349

>super flu but only for old people

Imagine if they led with this headline.

>> No.15848359

>>15848349
I still blame Imperial College London for the rapid transition from "Trump is looking for another excuse to be racist" to "HOLY FUCK! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!" Things really went into overdrive when scientifically gullible politicians saw those flawed ICL models and panicked.

>> No.15848749

It gave an excuse to end the pandemic and lockdowns so yes it was very effective.

>> No.15848806

>>15848359
And it's so funny how the trumpists changed equally fast from CLOSE THE BORDERS OR WERE GONNA DIE to ITS A NOTHINGBURGER because their whole identity is to be against the mainstream.

>> No.15848841

>>15847921
> In the absence of vaccination, the cumulative numbers of infections and deaths during the study period were estimated to be 63.3 million
They... they lumped infections and deaths into the same category...

>> No.15848847

>>15847921
Why does the first author only have a single publication?
https://www.nature.com/search?author=Taishi%20Kayano

>> No.15848861

>>15847921
It's not particularly useful