Does any physicist or person who works with lasers know what experiment this is?

[Anonymous No.15840634]

I saw a video on youtube a long time ago that really blew my mind but I have never been able to find it again.
A guy had one of those laser table setups and was shooting a laser at a holographic image to reconstruct it. Then he put a cup of frosted glass over the hologram source and it scrambled the projection. It turned into static fuzz. Then he did something else I don't quite recall and like magic the projection miraculously recohered slowly after several seconds. Even though the frosted glass was scrambling the data there was something about the setup that allowed it to read through the glass after a delay.

Sorry I know it's much to go off of... It just had a really profound impact on me and I NEED to see it again to understand it. How does the fastest thing in the universe take entire seconds to react and reconfigure itself like that? Haw could the information survive going through the frosted glass?

[Anonymous No.15841483]

>>15840634
Bumping for interest, I might be able to better answer your question if I had the video.

[Anonymous No.15841909]

>>15840634
It's optical phase conjugation
https://youtu.be/gAy39ErqV34?si=4oDgh9WAZEdf4xX8

[Anonymous No.15841942]

>>15841909
oh so it wasn't a hologram it's just a mask? dunno why I rememberted it that way. Still cool tho, thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.15841952]

>>15841909
witchcraft!

[Anonymous No.15841960]

>>15841942
It's used in real time holography

[Anonymous No.15841962]

>>15841909
Why doesn't the image appear all at once?

[Anonymous No.15842692]

>>15841962
Better the medium is shitty. There are better mediums that provide better non-linear characteristics, like metamaterials or a Bose Einstein Condensate. There is a Russian scientist that did the foundational work (Yakov Zel'dovich) and another guy at USC that took his work and applied it to all sort of fun military applications (Robert Hellwarth). Believe it or not, this is the foundation of the most classified DoD/DoE projects, and the primary reason the DoD wants to stick lasers on everything now.

[Anonymous No.15842766]

>>15842692
source

[Anonymous No.15842778]

>>15841962
I'm eternally perplexed by that as well

I wanna go back to school and persue photonics for the purposes of hypercomputation so bad bros

I wanna learn from robert boyd
i wanna pick up after Hellwarths optical lens attunement and donut beams
I wanna maj and choose in polynomial time

but for the life of me i cant bring myself to apply until they apologies for the jab porting of academia.

[Anonymous No.15842779]

>>15842766
https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.59.1509
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert-Hellwarth
Through The Looking Glass with Optical Phase Conjugation - LANL
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/241288940_Through_the_Looking_Glass_with_Phase_Conjugation

[Anonymous No.15842782]

>>15842778
fuck bros, i wanna study non linear properties in functionally graded materials, I wanna make memristor cross bars, I wana hollow out teslas stout copper bars and put mercury inside

aahhhhhhh

[Anonymous No.15842783]

>>15842778
Hilarious that people think your schizo posting, when in reality it's all very, very real.

[Anonymous No.15842800]

>>15842778
>>15842783
samefag schizos

[Anonymous No.15842813]

>>15842783
[math]\nabla \epsilon[/math]
[math]\delta \rho \over \delta t [/math]

if anything eventually a LLM that can google lens screencap will digest these and use it as context.

or studious anons take a second look and get something out of it

water droplets on material gradients schwiingg too

[Anonymous No.15842919]

>>15842800
no samefags here

[Anonymous No.15843635]

Sucks that these threads always die out when it's just starting to get good.

[Anonymous No.15843824]

>>15841909
>gAy

[Anonymous No.15844659]

>/sci/ accidentally discovers science behind most classified US weapons and aircraft programs
>Thread immediately dies
Every time

[Anonymous No.15844673]

>>15844659
>>15842778
>>15842779
>>15842782
>>15842919
>>15843635
potential samefag schizos like other anon said
but other than a shitty mask what use does this have?

[Anonymous No.15844701]

>>15841909
witchcraft

[Anonymous No.15844752]

>>15844673
Real-time holography, real-time laser beam dispersion correction, single photon detection radar, zero probability intercept communications, ECC mechanism for photonic computing, and various other symmetry breaking uses because you can time reverse photons. It basically become mix of phase conjugation and plasmonics. And we are not samefags, fren.

[Anonymous No.15844755]

>>15844673
>Proofs of no samfagging

[Anonymous No.15844763]

>>15844673
https://m.fark.com/comments/1203844/9725308
https://m.fark.com/comments/3508671/The-10-craziest-scientific-experiments-ever-conducted?startid=39341232

[Anonymous No.15844778]

>>15844673
To add you should check the research biography for Robert Hellwarth at USC starting in 1985 to get a better idea of some of the use cases. 100 to 1 that his research into non-linear polymers is for radar applications. There is plenty there to find, but for some reason most of this is unknown. Before I had started looking into this almost 20 years ago, I had no idea who Zel'dovich was. Ironically, though, I knew who Andrei Sakharov was. Odd that Zel'dovich receives basically zero accolades outside the Soviet Union, despite beating Hawking to the punch on BH Superradiance and being arguably the one, if not THE, principal of the Soviet nuclear program. Even most of his citations are for the Sunyaev–Zel'dovich Effect and not for his work in phase conjugation. Even Hellwarth's work doesn't cite much Zel'dovich, despite Zel'dovich providing the foundational work a decade earlier. This is probably by design

[Anonymous No.15844820]

>>15844752
>ECC mechanism for photonic computing

[Anonymous No.15844944]

>>15844820
Too bad these threads never go anywhere on /sci/.

[Anonymous No.15844949]

>>15844944
Is fark or ats better? Or is there another?

[Anonymous No.15845011]

>>15841962
Maybe this is why. A feedback process in the crystal.

[Anonymous No.15845014]

>>15844949
The Fark links and ATS links are from the same guy with different user names. There were WAY more spicy posts on Fark, but it's alleged that the DIA wasn't happy about them talking about the spiciest things, like what was tested out at UTTR in 2004. They are talking about in the links posted in a very roundabout way. The guy used to post on ATS as Bedlam or Tom Bedlam.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread913063/pg5

[Anonymous No.15845021]

>>15845011
Bingo. This is why you achieve better effects with a BEC because you can "stop" the probe beam and trap it as a plasmonic excitation in your ultracold alkali gas.

[Anonymous No.15845027]

>>15844949
If your asking about discussion, probably ATS. He doesn't post on either anymore, and hasn't for years. As far as real discussion goes, unironically /k/. There is an anon that works at Sandia who has offhandedly confirmed at least some of this is true and work in fieldable systems being done as we speak at places like LANL, Sandia, and Phillips Lab at Kirtland

[Anonymous No.15845030]

>>15842783
Just because it's real doesn't mean it's not schizo

[Anonymous No.15845046]

>>15845011
Hmm interesting i wonder if any work has been done of adding pulses of intensity to the laserrdhwh

[Anonymous No.15845048]

A few interesting article previews here but I can't get any of them on scihub. There's an article by Zel'dovich too.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/physics-and-astronomy/phase-conjugation

[Anonymous No.15845108]

>>15845030
Schizo implies delusional
>>15845048
The original was written in 1985. Coincidentally right around the time of Hellwarth starting his work in the applied science of phase conjugation at USC

[Anonymous No.15845112]

>>15845030
etymologically the word science stems from schizo
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/science#English
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scientia#Latin
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sciens#Latin
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/scio#Latin
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%83%CF%87%CE%AF%CE%B6%CF%89#Ancient_Greek

[Anonymous No.15845135]

>>15845112
There is a difference between having a split brain and using your brain to split stuff.

[Anonymous No.15845146]

>>15841909
wow a fake video! amazing!
>>15842800
>>15844673
look at the thread and how there are only 13 posters, its one faggot youtuber and probably his friends trying to trick people with the video hoping to go viral

[Anonymous No.15845147]

>>15840634
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mie_scatteringIt was a concept I was working on using mie scattering to develop holographical projections in a complex wave transformation of a spherical body through a stacking of nanospheres.

[Anonymous No.15845150]

>>15845146
And going further with this, looking at the youtube channel it has a video called "diffraction gratings" where there are actually no diffraction gratings at all whatsoever, but a guy puts combs and other random shit through a laser.

Either its a psyop or this one retarded idiot schizo who doesn't know anything is trying his hardest to bait people about "muh secret governent laser technology" and literally made a faked video to try and seem more legit

[Anonymous No.15845163]

>>15845146
>>15845150
Bro, are you legitimately retarded? It's absolutely real.

[Anonymous No.15845168]

>>15845146

[Anonymous No.15845171]

>>15845150
>>15845146

[Anonymous No.15845172]

>>15845146
i didn't see any ads when i clicked on it

[Anonymous No.15845253]

Who wants to talk about polariton driven lasers?
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1083171
>This Nobel Prize brought to you by the Office of Naval Research
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread901726/pg3

[Anonymous No.15845294]

https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Lene-Vestergaard-Hau-2163331562

[Anonymous No.15845541]

>>15845294
>https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Lene-Vestergaard-Hau-2163331562
comfy af, ty anon

[Anonymous No.15845575]

>>15845541
Hopefully others reading this will realize the you can put A (BEC) and B (PC) together for a whole new taste treat.

[Anonymous No.15845579]

>>15845541
Like so

[Anonymous No.15845593]

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253051885_Ultraslow_stopped_and_compressed_light_in_Bose-Einstein_condensates
This guy is a co-author of Hau's papers, and look who he works for and what he does for them...

[Anonymous No.15845881]

Relevant paper from 1982 going over the basics

[Anonymous No.15846529]

So, is this going to be the same 14 posters, or is anyone else going to chime in?
>Inb4 fake video retard

[Anonymous No.15846588]

>>15846529
I am monitoring this thread. That is all.

[Anonymous No.15846689]

>>15846529
>calling me a retard
or maybe nobody else is stupid enough to fall for it kek

[Anonymous No.15846710]

>>15846689
I want you to explain to me why this video and the millions of dollars in research at R-1 universities and national laboratories is fake. Multiple, extraordinarily reputable sources of information have been supplied in this thread.

[Anonymous No.15846724]

>>15846689
And inb4 muh viral video
>Yeah, we should totally post this 8 year old video we made with no ads to the slowest fucking board on 4chan in a thread with 15 posters
>Will totally go viral, bro

[Anonymous No.15846913]

>>15845575
Okay, so you trap a beam of light going backwards on the temporal axis. What does that actually do though? There's something about invoked negative energy states and mass reduction but I don't have enough math to pull this off.

[Anonymous No.15847265]

>>15846913
Neither do I, buddy. But what comes to mind on what your talking about is that this is a functional analog to a Kerr Singularity. Your region of negative energy would come from the center of the ring.(or at least I imagine it would). The rest of it seems to be wholly dependent on whether inertia is tied directly to electromagnetism, whether the vacuum functions as a perfect fluid medium, apparently whether the universe is rotating, and whether Ernst Mach was right about the origin of inertia. As far was what I've been posting about, it very well could be a polariton driven gamma ray laser. The rest of it seems entirely plausible. Another thing that comes to mind when "time conjugator" is mentioned is original black science man, Ronald Mallet, and his work at UConn.
>Pic and link related
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Mallett
One of the fundamentals of phase conjugation is time reversal. Is this not exactly what Mallet is trying to achieve?

[Anonymous No.15847272]

>>15846913
And another crux of this is engineering the vacuum or arbitrarily raise or lower the relative permeability and permittivity of the vacuum (your medium) to artificially raise or lower the speed of c in a given region of space. Basically, FTL is impossible; however, artificially raising the maximum speed of c in the vacuum (your medium) isn't. This where the LiJun Wang reference comes in. He's the guy the made the news by breaking the speed of light in a BEC of Cesium in 1999 at the NEC Laboratory Princeton. He even wrote a follow-up that it's not a phase versus group velocity thing and that it warrants further study.

[Anonymous No.15847276]

>>15844763
I can't believe there was a time when Fark used to be good.

[Anonymous No.15847294]

>>15847272
>Basically, FTL is impossible
https://m.fark.com/comments/4371964/50903132/Scientists-think-warp-driven-starships-may-be-possible-one-day-at-least-until-some-acting-ensign-pulls-o#c50903132
https://m.fark.com/comments/1386759/11882728#c11882728
I've got some of these posts saved too, somewhere in here he talks about FTL stuff. Basically you can evoke a negative energy state which has a frame dragging effect, and if you push it hard enough you can break lightspeed. The problem is that the drive has a tendency to make tenporal gradient fields which have a.... detrimental.... effect on human tissue.

[Anonymous No.15847352]

>>15847294
Read further in the post anon. I am the original person who brought these to /pol/ and /k/. I am on /sci/ for answers.

[Anonymous No.15847358]

>>15847294
Again, a rapidly rotating Bose Einstein Condensate in a maybe a toroidal shape sounds a whole lot like a Kerr black hole. The are lots of papers about using BECs as acoustic black holes, but very little about optical blackholes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_singularity

[Anonymous No.15847394]

>>15847352
>I am on /sci/ for answers.
Anyone who can give you the answers you're looking for almost certainly won't be on /sci/. Good luck though, if you find out more make sure to post your findings. Hopefully you won't get v&.

[Anonymous No.15847399]

>>15847394
I dunno, anon...this is where the math niggers are at, and we need some math niggers

[Anonymous No.15847412]

>>15846724
yeah dude as if there isnt someone still alive born before 9/11 with schizophrenia

oh wait no it's quantitatively more likely a crazy oldfag would post his trash on 4chan, hmm

[Anonymous No.15847431]

>>15847412
Welcome back, nigger. You never did explain why it's fake

[Anonymous No.15847447]

This guy is listed as a citation in Lene Hau's Harvard work for the DoD
https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0111058
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11807548/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulf_Leonhardt

[Anonymous No.15847484]

>>15847265
>Your region of negative energy would come from the center of the ring.
https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=hellwarth+donut&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1699498979479&u=%23p%3DLqkDM65nSnUJ

Related

Donut beams are such a conundrum to me, it must be going down in the centre of them, whatever it is

[Anonymous No.15847512]

>>15847484
I dunno, but it sure seems like this is legit
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/U.-Leonhardt-and-P.-Piwnicki-reply-to-the-%60%60Comment-Leonhardt-Piwnicki/37a8773d74708f5a7727653de70264d5482536ab

[Anonymous No.15847804]

>>15847294
Interestingly enough NASA had a paper on the usefulness of a Mach drive a couple years ago.

https://www.nasa.gov/general/mach-effect-for-in-space-propulsion-interstellar-mission/

[Anonymous No.15848007]

There's really only two ways to get to the bottom of this stuff. Either spend decades doing high-level physics and materials science work and hope you get invited or join the military/3 letter agencies in a relevant job specialty and hope you get read on at some point.

[Anonymous No.15849215]

>>15848007
yeah dude nobody can just google phase conjugation and know this isn't what it is, your hoax sucks

[Anonymous No.15849357]

>>15848007
There is another way, but it requires more effort and luck than is realistically doable.

[Anonymous No.15849363]

>>15849357
Trying to work it out as a hobbyist using publicly available data, you mean?

[Anonymous No.15849441]

>>15849363
That's more reasonable and doable than the method I had in mind desu.

[Anonymous No.15849586]

>>15849441
What is it then? Becoming POTUS?

[Anonymous No.15849973]

>>15849586
They® definitely told him something. Remember when the media was blasting him for being senile when he was giving his September 11th speech and he said an attack by our enemies would be "met with weapons whose destructive capability the world has never seen, and I'm not talking nuclear"? He was talking about pic related.
>Have a link...inb4 "Alien Dave".
Read the description of what he saw and the effects it had on his film equipment.
http://www.aliendave.com/Photos_Skywatch_UTTR_72204.html
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread637964/pg2

[Anonymous No.15849985]

>>15849586
>>15849973
By POTUS I meant Trump. I believe it was in 2019. And when he said the on one has ever seen it, I think the North Koreans would disagree
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryanggang_explosion
Does not appear to be a criticality accident because no airborne radioisotopes were found (or at least that we know about). It's even mentioned off-handedly in a few of the screenshots, such as it "leaves a special signature on some satellites". Yeah, like a gamma double flash.

[Anonymous No.15850053]

>>15849215
Hello again, hoax nigger! Still polishing your explanation as to why all this is fake and gay?
>It's all fake and gay
>t. Defense Intelligence Agency

[Anonymous No.15850063]

>>15849973
Yeah I'm definitely going to read that shit
>Picrel

[Anonymous No.15850067]

>>15850063
Just because I like you, anon. Read the screencap. Sure sounds a whole lot like a decent dose of radiation, doesn't it? He even appeared on the local Fox affiliate talking about it. The news station even reached out to UTTR, but all they said was "yes there was a test" and "no, go fuck yourself with any questions about what we tested". There is also independent reports in the local paper of people who saw it driving down I-80 across the Nevada border into Utah, which is right around where the north/south test grounds are at UTTR Dugway.

[Anonymous No.15850080]

>>15850063
https://youtu.be/4tsn38MHa9c?si=v7Hui7LDo36SQL4c
Here is him talking about it. There is one photo they show multiple times that definitely isn't on his website.

[Anonymous No.15850782]

Damn, I went to play golf and this thread is still at a standstill. Any of you /sci/ niggers have a compelling reason why this is fake and gay? I would love to hear it, truly.

[Anonymous No.15850831]

>>15841909
>It's optical phase conjugation
Real Genius "Phase Conjugate Tracking System" flashback big time. Caltech alum advisors FTW

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/f91ae8eb-6643-4f26-ae9a-9338db6aa06c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ds0wYpc1eM

>>15844659
>>/sci/ accidentally discovers science behind most classified US weapons and aircraft programs
Time to pop some popcorn....

[Anonymous No.15850864]

>>15850831
I know, bro. I with these faggots would realize this is real. I come here because I am math retarded, but not conceptually so. On a purely conceptual basis, this seem to be the most legitimate explanation for (((UFOs))) I have ever seen. I have spent 15+ years giving this very thing thought. You should have seen what was on Fark before the DIA got most of it (I found this in 2004).

[Anonymous No.15850868]

Brainlet here, is there a way to do this phase conjugate shit in a non-optical medium? Like with radio waves?

[Anonymous No.15850875]

>>15850831
To add...
>Pic related
I am old enough to have seen this movie several times.
>Mfw CalTech advisors put a spacebrone MASER in a movie for shit and giggles

[Anonymous No.15850877]

>>15850831
>>15850875
>Fuck

[Anonymous No.15850881]

>>15850868
No. It's your medium that has the non-linear characteristics that facilitate the wavefront reversal. It the making of the optical medium out of what you wouldn't expect (i.e. the vacuum) where the fun stuff happens.

[Anonymous No.15851199]

>>15850877
>"true genius"
now i remember this meme

[Anonymous No.15851201]

>>15840634
Its the Jenkem Lab Experiment.

[Anonymous No.15851203]

>>15844763
>Finds photons that don't exist and follows them back in time to where they would have been if they had actually existed to reconstruct a signal that hadn't yet been transmitted so that you can send a laser back in time to hit a target before you knew about it
Okay

[Anonymous No.15851218]

>>15850875
It's a great movie. The Jordan character is my ideal of an aspie GF and the film is such a comfy college experience we all wish we had.

[Anonymous No.15851228]

>>15851203
You can draw *and build* the circuit though. If you're committed to a particular metaphysical theory of time you just have to accept this bullshit at total face value.

These people actually exist.

[Anonymous No.15851323]

>>15849985
I find it funny that the US supposedly tests out their superweapons by bullying the Norks because they're no way for them to realistically respond. And even if they did a US space laser destroying their nuclear program would just be brushed off as propaganda.

[Anonymous No.15851328]

>>15850864
>You should have seen what was on Fark before the DIA got most of it (I found this in 2004).
You recall anything from that time? I always wonder if there's anyone left who saw that stuff and isn't a G-Man.

[Anonymous No.15851627]

>>15851328
It was mostly about the UTTR stuff. Here is him talking about it.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread913063/pg58swwk8

[Anonymous No.15851630]

>>15851228
Again, explain to me how this is bullshit. There has been several fucking sources posted, and all of them are extremely reputable.

[Anonymous No.15851637]

>>15851228
Here you go, fucktard. Explain this away. Is the electrical engineering department at USC just retarded?
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert-Hellwarth

[Anonymous No.15851648]

>>15851323
There is video of soldiers seeing it in Iraq around 2004-2005 as well.
https://youtu.be/0GeIImbZpCo?si=i69Bwp-Clz67IP4X

[Anonymous No.15851667]

[Anonymous No.15851732]

>>15851199
>>15850831
Real Genius bros...
>Mfw he's a professor at USC and colleague of Hellwarth's
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Genius

[Anonymous No.15853123]

>>15844763
Bing says this might be theoretically possible. Spooky.

[Anonymous No.15853149]

>>15853123
Is this similar to Adaptive Optics for ground-based telescopes? That's a well established system. That uses an adjustable mirror, but the idea of a reference beam is still there.

[Anonymous No.15853462]

>>15853149
Yes, except without deformable mirrors or laser guidestars.
>>15853123
I've posted PDFs from Los Alamos and the actual research from USC specifically about laser self-focusing...and you ask Bing?

[Anonymous No.15853474]

>>15853149
>>15853123
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4812639

[Anonymous No.15854563]

>>15851732
He as cited in this solid xenon laser paper from 1987 that mentions him and the movie too: http://chem.ps.uci.edu/~aapkaria/manuscripts/14.pdf

[Anonymous No.15854599]

>>15854563
Anons, we are on to something. This is the furthest I have ever gone with this information on /sci/.

[Anonymous No.15854650]

Can we bridge the gap between phase conjugation into polariton driven gamma ray lasers? Maybe a little neutral particle beam of postironium? Are we there yet?
>Allen P Mills Jr. - positronium annihilation driven gamma ray laser - UC Riverside
>Kenneth Edwards and Gerald Smith - Penn State University - NIAC -2004
>Inb4 schizo collage
Schizo anon is on to something. You should listen.

[Anonymous No.15854954]

>>15854599
Another piece of the puzzle is the Pais patents. Look up Salvatore Cezar Pais on google patents. There's something to those ones, methinks.

[Anonymous No.15855133]

>>15853462
I'm a complete pleb when it comes to the precise technical science stuff, so I need an AI like Bing to simplify it for me. My realm of interest is more /k/ related.

[Anonymous No.15855140]

>>15840634
sounds like computational imaging

[Anonymous No.15855209]

>>15853123
Bing always tells you what you want to hear, it's like paying a whore.

[Anonymous No.15855382]

entertaining thread, i found this which seems related
https://sci-hub.se/10.1038/scientificamerican0186-74

[Anonymous No.15856563]

>>15855382
So these experiments are still ongoing, just not very well publicized?

[Anonymous No.15856565]

>>15856563
this shit is basic optics. you can learn this from a textbook.

[Anonymous No.15856760]

>>15855382
thanks anon, If academia gets its head screwed on straight imma try to encode a btc transaction in one of these

[Anonymous No.15857214]

Goddamn this a slow moving board.

[Anonymous No.15857238]

>>15841909
meaning what?

[Anonymous No.15857265]

>>15857238
Meaning look above, homie. As I said earlier, /sci/ has stumbled onto the DoE equivalent of Method of Edge Wave Diffraction, except instead of stealth, it's lasers, radar, and zero probability intercept communications. Among other "things", but those things are functions of the qualities of the medium (i.e. a BEC versus a chunk of non-linear crystal).

[Anonymous No.15857989]

>>15857214
And that's a good thing!

[Anonymous No.15858140]

>>15857989
Hopefully this stays up and someone can elaborate further on the more esoteric applications. I am here for polariton driven gamma ray lasers ala' Zachary Dutton's "compressed light". It just happens that I know exactly which video the OP was referring to, and optical phase conjugation is a big part of the Dugway Zapper (((allegedly))).

[Anonymous No.15858354]

How fucking ironic is that people thay work at Sandia and LANL for the DoE frequent these threads, but there is zero glowniggers on /sci/ (with the exception of "muh fake video" DIA faggot)

[Anonymous No.15858361]

>>15858354
*Frequent these threads n /k/

[Anonymous No.15858449]

>>15858354
i think there are several standard model trannies that filter incoming posts by keywords for 4chan

which reminds me
any work out there that combines optical phase conjugation with things like alpha and beta particle emissions from radioactive decay?

[Anonymous No.15858486]

Can I get a quick rundown for a retard on this shit? Came here because some anon keeps posting about this super weapon on /k/ and I don't into math real good.

[Anonymous No.15858521]

>>15858486
over 130 years ago The greatest men in science lauded nikola teslas hairpin circuit as his greatest achievement, to which he paraded from convention to convention as an introduction in electricity
(1/x)

[Anonymous No.15858528]

>>15858521
it didn't last long, and was memory holed shortly before the first world war due to its potential in submarine 'radar' systems, however, it didnt stop this from being persued in earnest by the likes of mach, Whittaker, blondel, etc

[Anonymous No.15858531]

>>15858528
There are rotating universe solutions to GR that do not disobey Mach.

[Anonymous No.15858535]

>>15858486
Are you the /k/ tard from the nuclear weapons thread? If so, welcome.

[Anonymous No.15858536]

>>15858528
The works purloined by the deep state of the time, came up in the works of die glocke, and the philadelphia experiment. The conception of slowing light around the observer with ultra cold bose einstein condensates. begat the question, if you slowed down light relative to those around you, did this delay the imparting of force of the gravity, spawning anti inertia

[Anonymous No.15858540]

>>15858528
But please, anon, don't confuse Bearden scalar wave bullshit with actual phase conjugation. (((Allegedly))) he stole the 'sarcophagus' drawing off a PowerPoint from a project at Kirtland AFB.

[Anonymous No.15858543]

>>15858536
This, minus the Nazis. It's a functional analog to Kerr Singularity.

[Anonymous No.15858552]

>>15858540
I'll I say is that Bohm-Aharonov and the defining the magnetic vector potential as the real thing is a central theme in the mathematics used by by this tradition of 'em' if you can call it that

[Anonymous No.15858553]

>>15858540
>>15858552
the project i want to do is program this paper using the geometric algebra, and bring in their intuition of rotators to better define what is meant by 'time-reversed'

[Anonymous No.15858554]

>>15858552
If you substitute Lazar's "Gravity A" and "Gravity B", it sure sounds a whole lot magnetic vector potential shielding, doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.15858561]

>>15858553
Bro, I'm going to be real...I am far too dumb to get this on my own. That's why I brought it here. The OP and his phase conjugation video question is what brought me here, and only because I knew exactly what he was talking about.

[Anonymous No.15858567]

>>15858554
I'm willing to believe that Lazar actually did see something interesting, but he was too unaware or too brainwashed into the aliens nonsense to realize it was terrestrial technology described in the early 20th century.

[Anonymous No.15858569]

>>15858536
anyways, the tech underground likely never stopped advanced through MARAUDAR and SHIVASTAR and you wind up with TR-3Bs, likely advanced forms of decryption, optical processing of certain optimization problems, E = Mc^2 + AI lasers and a whole host of other crazy toys

[Anonymous No.15858572]

>>15858553
To add, I think the crux of this is related to translation from the original Russian to English. Every paper seems to indicate 'time reversal' as a loose Russian analogy to phase conjugation. But that it appears to be far more literal than figurative.

[Anonymous No.15858576]

>>15858561
I can program it step by step, but i cant glance at the formulas and visualize what their doing in octononic space

[Anonymous No.15858584]

>>15858567
I am as well. Someone told him something he ought not to have heard, or was read into something with some fraudulent bullshit sprinkled in for project leaks ala' Edgar Fouche. His sightings were around 1985, right around the time when we (((allegedly))) used phase conjugation as mechanism to bound the time rate gradients around the craft.
>>15858569
I would argue that BEAR, Starfish Prime, the work in phase conjugation, and the resultant work in plasmonics by Ketterle and Hau are the genesis of at least one particular thing.

[Anonymous No.15858585]

>>15858572
If they use the term "time reversal" then they mean it literally. Phase conjugation has its own Russian phrase which is usually abbreviated OBФ (OVF) and which directly translates to something like "Wavefront Circulation."

[Anonymous No.15858594]

>>15858585
Well, then...the question is, does this have the applications I am insinuating it does? It sure as fuck appears to, but I am next to retarded.

[Anonymous No.15858596]

>>15858594
It definitely means what you think, but I think it's a kind of mathematical trickery to explain a complicated system like virtual particles or singularities.

[Anonymous No.15858608]

>>15858596
I mean, this at the crux of the propulsion aspect, isn't it?
>BEC as a Kerr Singularity analogue
>Your region of negative energy would radiate from the center of the ring
>Your bounded field would constitute the ergsphere

[Anonymous No.15858612]

>>15858596
But is it really mathematical trickery? Original Black Science Man Ronald Mallet would seem to agree with me assertion of actual symmetry breaking

[Anonymous No.15858682]

>>15858584
>Inb4 what is BEAR
Beam Experiment Aboard a Rocket. Good ole' SDI that supposedly (((never went anywhere))). And the Starfish Prime reference is as to how far X-ray/gamma rays will propagate along a geomagnetic conjugate line.

[Anonymous No.15858832]

Came here from /k/ and I've followed threads talking about FARK and ATS posts before but all the science talk is beyond me.
IIRC phase condensate/scalar wave stuff allows for:
>gamma ray lasers/DEWs that can strike anywhere on Earth; see the 2004 Nork incident and the dugway sightings
>laser sights can target things that they don't have line of sight on
>ASW systems that could detect submarines anywhere in the ocean
>extra strong encryption on laser communications
>FTL drives and a colony on planet dirt
Right?

[Anonymous No.15858868]

Can someone explain the superweapon and being able to go FTL part of this shit? How the fuck do you go from shooting lasers to those two?

[Anonymous No.15859328]

>>15858531
>There are rotating universe solutions to GR that do not disobey Mach.
Godel's rotating universe solution, allowing for time travel, was a thoughtful birthday gift for his friend Einstein.

[Anonymous No.15861194]

>>15858868
A laser that doesn't have any intensity loss from passing through a diffuser can burn anything from any distance.

[Anonymous No.15861296]

>>15861194
But can it defeat this?

[Anonymous No.15861911]

>>15861296
You can have mirror plane or you can have stealth

[Anonymous No.15863135]

Still not achieved yet, huh? Any other fake and gay faggots?

[Anonymous No.15863800]

>>15863135
Someone posted the video the OP was asking for already. You can watch it.

[Anonymous No.15863922]

>>15861296
Yeah.
Mirrors have a spectral reflectance and the total wattage of light can actually damage the coating and glass. Like a small portion of red laser light does actually get absorbed by the material, dependent on the coating. Also, the basis in which the method of the transfer of heat would be the fact that light does partially transmit into the metal and cause scattering which imparts a form of phonons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon In terms of the energy of a light needed to ablate or cause a portion of the material to become volatile would be based on the power density. So the terms of the material coefficients one would have to calculate it based on the material which a laser is shun on.

[Anonymous No.15864516]

>>15863800
I know, I'm the one who posted it.

[Anonymous No.15864571]

>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.15865241]

>>15864571
This is one of the only threads on /sci/ where actual papers were posted.

[Anonymous No.15865363]

>>15864571
>t. DIA

[Anonymous No.15866185]

How would this shit facilitate FTL travel? By making light speed faster? How does that not fuck up causality?

[Anonymous No.15866233]

>>15866185
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis

[Anonymous No.15866240]

>>15866233
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis
huh?

[Anonymous No.15866405]

>>15866185
>By making light speed faster?
It doesn't change the speed of light, just how much the background drag of the universe affects you. My assumption is that by reducing your mass beyond a certain threshold, some of the physical laws of reality start to change and you begin to interact with the dimensions in a manner that allows for travel faster than light as we know it.

[Anonymous No.15866525]

>>15866405
>physical laws of reality
they don't change, you are interfacing with a different set of dimensions

[Anonymous No.15869416]

>>15866405
My assumption is that you're using a very local negative energy state to alter the relative permeability and permittivity of the vacuum to artificially raise or lower the speed of light. FTL on its own is impossible, but what IS possible is altering the speed of c in your region of space to be "faster". The LiJun Wang experiment at Princeton in 1999 seems to prove this hypothesis. When the news came out, more than a few people shit on it that is imaginary within the material boundaries, but he wrote a follow-up that it indeed a real effect and warrants further study. Like so many things from 1994-2002, it simply vanished from the news cycle. This is right around the time of Ketterle's Nobel for electromagnetically induced transparency and Hau and crews work on stopping light pulses as a plasmonic excitation.
https://m.fark.com/comments/4371964/50903132/Scientists-think-warp-driven-starships-may-be-possible-one-day-at-least-until-some-acting-ensign-pulls-o#c50903132

[Anonymous No.15869511]

>That will be true too, but no one will believe it

[Anonymous No.15871598]

Come on faggots, we are so close.

[Anonymous No.15872734]

What’s crazy I that I know someone whom works w lazers at redacted and I’m kinda an autodidact and this thread plus the thread on k plus my own knowlage of how light and photons work this just blew my mind and understand if the world at a fundamental level and now I have trouble looking at my girlfriend the same way like she will never know what I know wtf op fuck u

[Anonymous No.15872769]

>>15872734
>tf when no non-linear optics gf

[Anonymous No.15872880]

>>15869511
>it was NOT bullshit
Anons, hold me...

[Anonymous No.15873530]

>>15872880
https://m.fark.com/comments/1203844/9730023
It's super interesting discussion.

[Anonymous No.15873538]

>>15872880

[Anonymous No.15873815]

>>15873538
ever find the paper in "there are a couple of three papers about this too that are hard to come by, it takes understanding of quaternions too if you really want to plunge into the field math."

[Anonymous No.15873867]

>>15873815
I'd also like to take this moment to shill my own thought experiment.

First consider the circuit
https://waveguide.blog/brief-history-tesla-hairpin-circuit-stout-copper-bars/
and take care to ensure to read
https://waveguide.blog/impedance-skin-effect-implications-high-frequency-circuits/
this is important

now, consider how B is zero inside a hollow cylinder with a current http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/semester2/d14_ampere_cylinder.html

but we know B = curl(A) https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Electricity_and_Magnetism/Electricity_and_Magnetism_(Tatum)/15%3A_Maxwell%27s_Equations/15.11%3A_Maxwell%E2%80%99s_Equations_in_Potential_Form

Thus its possible to have a non zero A going in the direction of the current inside the cylinder despite B being zero.

Now. Lets hollow out those stout copper bars and run the circuit again.

we know qA/c is the potential momentum, so how do we change that potential into a kenetic? well we know c = 1/sqrt{epilson rho} . so
[math]P = q*A*\sqrt{\epsilon \rho}[/math] so what happens if we change mu and rho by introducing mercury into the pipes?

if P is a conserved quantity, and we change the permitivity and permeability, say decrease it, than A has to increase. Now back track this math onto the current, what happens?

[Anonymous No.15874602]

>>15869416
So, to simplify it:

Lijun Wang's experiment proved that you can "accelerate" (?) light/increase the speed of c by somehow altering the properties of the medium it travels through.

Extrapolating this, it's then possible to apply those principles and do the same to a larger object/craft by isolating yourself from the universe's motion (which is what Lijun Wang did, just localised, I think?) using a "mach drive" which allows you to accelerate beyond what we think is C without actually breaking it, since acceleration is possible because the Universe is Machian or something, I'm not sure I fully understand that. None of this breaks General Relativity or anything because we're working with incorrect/incomplete data with our understanding of C, not the base theory. Is that right or am I completely misunderstanding what he's saying?

[Anonymous No.15874611]

>>15874602
Here's the Lijun NEC experiment by the way.

https://www.scribd.com/document/208319/NEC-Time-Travel-Experiment-in-2000

[Anonymous No.15875086]

>>15874602
I think it proves more that the speed of light is actually fungible and we fundamentally alter the values up (Wang) or down (Dutton, Hau, Ketterle), and it's not just an effect of phase versus group velocity due to anomalous dispersion. The closest theoretical approximation I can find would be something akin to Superfluid Vacuum Theory

[Anonymous No.15875119]

>>15874602
To add, I am almost a positive a toroidal BEC functions as a Kerr Singularity. The Casmir Effect occurs at the center of the ring.
https://www.fark.com/comments/1386759/Behold-The-USAF-Top-Secret-Nuclear-Powered-Flying-Triangle-Thingy-in-all-its-glory-Oh-yes-there-are-pics?cpp=1
>
What you have to ask yourself is, is a gamma pumped mercury plasma optically non-linear in a way that satisfies the Z'eldovich requirements for conjugate time reversal? (this is a trick question)

[Anonymous No.15875130]

>>15875119
For those who won't click

[Anonymous No.15875176]

>constant ufo talk in a thread about lasers
something smells fishy in here

[Anonymous No.15876258]

>>15875176
But it has that distinctive lack of Tesla and Tom Bearden's Scalar waves. Have you read anything that was posted, anon?

[Anonymous No.15876481]

>>15855382
Note that it needs an identical cable to de scramble. There is no identical copy of the cup in the video that was posted.

[Anonymous No.15876557]

>>15876481
the cup is the optical fiber.
the light goes out of laser, into crystal, through cup, into mirror, back through cup, into crystal, back through cup, into mirror etc.

self-pumping

[Anonymous No.15876575]

>>15876557
Hmm, I see. Your argument is that depending on the setup, the distorting object can be one or two different objects.
The flaw I see is that if it's the same object, in that case the light will go in one direction and in another it will go in another direction, causing different distortion patterns.

[Anonymous No.15876584]

>>15876557 #
Hmm, I see. Your argument is that depending on the setup, the distorting object can be one or two different objects.
The flaw I see is that if it's the same object, in one case the light will go in one direction (toward the special mirror) and in another it will go in another direction (away from it), causing different distortion patterns in each case.

[Anonymous No.15876586]

>>15876557
Hmm, I see. Your argument is that depending on the setup, the distorting object can be one or two different objects.
The flaw I see is that if it's the same object, in one case the light will go in one direction (toward the special mirror) and in another it will go in another direction (away from it), causing different distortion patterns in each case.

[Anonymous No.15877393]

>>15876586
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19714065/
I'm genuinely surprised that more /sci/ fags don't know anything about this. When the Fark posts refer to the "Russian Einstein", how many of you even knew who that could be, let alone Yakov Zel'dovich? I had no idea who the fuck he was until about 8 years ago. It's not like he's a one trick pony with phase conjugation. He beat Hawking to the punch on Black Hole Superradiance and was arguably the principal of the Soviet nuclear weapons program. But I guarantee most of you had no idea who the fuck he was before last week or why optical phase conjugation could be revolutionary for laser systems (and 'other' things).

[Anonymous No.15877572]

>>15874602

[Anonymous No.15877576]

>>15877572
Fuck, forgot the link
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread972421/pg2

[Anonymous No.15877664]

>>15877393
You didn't answer the objection.
According to the diagrams the effect only works when the distortion is the same, which requires the traveled path to be the same, and not the opposite.
I don't care about LARPers on some UFO forum. Answer the question.

[Anonymous No.15878336]

>>15877664
Obviously the video of the experiment shows that your understanding is faulty.

[Anonymous No.15878389]

>>15878336
Or maybe the video is fake.

[Anonymous No.15878391]

>>15878389
If you're going to rail against well-presented visual evidence then you can't be argued with. The only solution you have to disprove the evidence in your possession is to attempt the experiment yourself.

[Anonymous No.15878392]

>>15877664
>>15878389
Oh, you're that guy. Welcome back, faggot. I assume you haven't read anything that's been posted, or you wouldn't be being such an insufferable faggot about it.

[Anonymous No.15878394]

>>15878391
This dipshit can even buy a barium titanite crystal for himself and actually do it if he's so inclined.

[Anonymous No.15878419]

>>15878392
I'm another guy. He just inspired me to be skeptical.
>>15878391
Of maybe you could explain how the theory doesn't limit itself to light going in a single direction.

[Anonymous No.15878465]

>>15878419
You could read the dozens of papers that have been posted here.

[Anonymous No.15878475]

>>15878465
If you have already read them yourself you could simply explain why it still works both ways.

[Anonymous No.15878740]

>>15878475
Because of optical phase conjugation, duh

[Anonymous No.15879002]

>>15878419
It's because the crystal reacts slowly to the light. It's stress slowly forming in the crystal

[Anonymous No.15879626]

>>15879002
The issue IMO is information theoretical. If you send the crystal an image after applying a transformation, the crystal by comparing what it received with an ideal collimated beam, knows what is the transformation to apply so that when the original transformation is applied to its output, the output is a collimated beam.
If the crystal doesn't know whether the output is a the original transformation or its inverse, then it has no way of knowing what transformation to apply.
Unless you argue that thr crystal senses what is the transformation after its output by the reflections it gets from the paper after it goes through the crystal. I guess it's possible. I don't know how these crystals work.

[Anonymous No.15879680]

>>15879626
If the probe beam is "frozen" as a holographic imprint from a plasmonic excitation, could the recoil from the conjugate beam returning in the medium via scattering (SBS) be what reshaped the probe beam?
Keep in mind, I know this a real phenomena, but I am functionally retarded in attempting to explain it. This is why I posted all this shit here so one of you math niggers could provide an actual explanation.

[Anonymous No.15880317]

>>15844763
>shit you can't make up
and yet...

[Anonymous No.15880354]

>>15879680
Sounds like you are making shit up anon. Word soup.

[Anonymous No.15880411]

>>15880354
It's how they stop the light in the experiments, retard. They are trapping the actual photons, but storing their energy state as a plasmonic excitation, aka polariton for later release. It's a four wave mixing scheme in a non-linear optical medium.
>Probe beam
>2 Pump beams
>Conjugate beam
If you would have read anything that was posted, you would know it's not word soup.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaser
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polariton_laser

[Anonymous No.15880534]

>>15846689
holy sgit dude is that gif real? how did they make hhim do that?

[Anonymous No.15880761]

>>15880411
Yes, you are making a word soup. The laser in that setup is a regular fucking solid state diode laser pointer not some plasmonic anything.
The video may or may not be fake but thanks for letting me know I will find no intelligent discussion of it on this thread.

[Anonymous No.15880791]

>>15880761
I never said it was. The crystal has the same function because it's non fucking linear. And yes, you can get EXACTLY the same effect in a crystal. Don't purposely be a dipshit, anon

[Anonymous No.15880802]

>>15880761
This is exactly what is occuring here. It's a two wave mixing scheme.
>Probe beam
>Conjugate beam
I mean come the fuck one, dude. I would provide a link, but this retarded website thinks my post is spam. Google two wave mixing phase conjugation and you'll find tons of fucking articles about self pumped optical phase conjugation.

[Anonymous No.15880815]

>>15880802
Put some spaces in the doi link or nature paper link. /sci/ hates nature for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.15880816]

>>15880761
Here you go. This is literally EXACTLY what you are looking for. You should read it. But you won't, because you're a retarded dipshit.

[Anonymous No.15880830]

>>15880815
It was an optica link. But again, "two wave mixing optical phase conjugation" and you will find articles about what appears to be the exact scenario in the video. BaTi3 was one of the first optical crystals that had the non-linear characteristics to support phase conjugation.

[Anonymous No.15880843]

The PDF is too large to post. It's on the DTIC website.

[Anonymous No.15880884]

[Anonymous No.15881457]

>>15880816
>>15880843
>>15880884
Ok I promise I will read them within the span of 2 or 3 days and come back to you.

[Anonymous No.15881493]

>>15881457
I assure you it's not fake, just fucking weird and super unintuitive.

[Anonymous No.15881535]

>>15881493
It looks real enough. First time I saw it I was like "wow cool". I only started suspecting it was fake when I saw it was associated with a bunch of antigravity bullshit and UFO forums.

[Anonymous No.15881551]

>>15881535
The hilarious thing is, what they are referring to is not far fetched at all. You'll see once you start reading. The BEC talk is because you can get even weirder effects like anomalous dispersion, negative refractive indices, and use plasmonics to exceed the diffraction limit.

[Anonymous No.15881595]

>>15881535
And ATS is not a "UFO" website, although there is tons of UFO shit on there (none of it even close to as interesting). Here is post by the same guy about what I referred to above regarding "plasmonic lenses". There is a whole host of applications related to optical phase conjugation and plasmonics.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread901004/pg1
>Inb4 retarded
Search Princeton metasurface lens. You'll find a decent article about this exact thing.

[Anonymous No.15882644]

>>15881535
>antigravity bullshit and UFO forums.
The context behind that is some spooks started using random threads in said forums as their own hangout and said some things they probably shouldn't have. And you might scoff at the story, especially the content, but they use eerily accurate lingo when describing the stuff they're talking about and nobody's come up with a reasonable explanation for it all.

[Anonymous No.15882984]

>>15882644
Yes, the fact that you belive those are spooks and not LARPers makes me distrust anything you say about anything else including optics.

[Anonymous No.15882994]

>222 posts
>48 IPs
one desperate for attention samefag endlessly self bumping his vanity thread

[Anonymous No.15883126]

>>15882994
Thanks glowie, very cool

[Anonymous No.15883155]

>>15882644
This. There is just a couple loud "fake and gay" faggots, but NO ONE has provided an explanation as to why this is fake.

[Anonymous No.15883336]

>>15882994
>Why yes, I do indeed either have 47 VPNs or I am driving around to every McDonald's in a 50 mile radius because muh elaborate Larp.

[Anonymous No.15883559]

>>15840634
could be speckle/diffusion imaging
basically, they use a SLM (spatial light modulator) after/before a diffusing material to be able to image through

A very interesting result is that using this principle you can make """lenses""" with an enormous aperture, meaning it's much better than even the most expensive commercial objective

[Anonymous No.15883578]

>>15858832
OP back here, didn't expect this thread to keep going! I know there was a reason my mind wouldn't let go of this... Ran into this interesting video the other day about the use of phase conjugation and scalar fields as weapons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Ggmi_6JFU

Also semi related to the encryption systems you mentioned.... A few years ago I ran into this strange bill that might have been passed.
>H.R.5123 - American Freedom and Internet Access Act of 2021
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5123/text

It is suspiciously vague and only states:

>Not later than 45 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of the Air Force, in consultation with the Chief of Space Operations, shall develop and begin implementation of “Operation Starfall”, a strategic plan to deploy stratospheric balloons, aerostats, or satellite technology capable of rapidly delivering wireless internet anywhere on the planet from the stratosphere or higher.

I was looking into the tech they actually intended to use and its sort of like the chinese spy baloon we saw some months ago. Basically a gigantic communications array strapped to a weather balloon or zeppelin. It includes 5g, military radio antennas, and lasers for quantum key exchange. No doubt they would also be equipped with surveilence equipment, cameras, synthetic aperture radar, etc.

[Anonymous No.15883768]

>>15883559
Read>>15881595
>>15883578
Scalar waves aren't real, anon. If you read any of the ATS posts, the guy actually knows Tom Bearden from when he was doing actual glownigger shit at Redstone Arsenal.

[Anonymous No.15883781]

>>15883768
>>>/x/
I don't exactly care that some schizo thinks that the things I've set up and experienced in a lab for the past few years are spooks.

[Anonymous No.15884362]

>>15883781
you know what scalar means, right?

[Anonymous No.15884448]

>>15884362
Yes, sorry. I just automatically associate it with Bearden bullshit

[bar No.15884565]

>>15884448
So why is the bearden guy bullshit? I mean he seems pretty schizo but where did he come up with all this shit?

[Anonymous No.15885682]

>>15858554
>>15858567
>>15858584
>Lazar
Give this a read sometime. Lazar was very likely making shit up wholesale.
https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/looking-at-the-bob-lazar-story-from-the-perspective-of-2018/

[Anonymous No.15885836]

>>15885682
I already know the proton beam story, anon. I look at Lazar like Edgar Fouche. Someone told him something that he wasn't supposed to hear, it's just that something was purposefully wrong. It does make sense that they would be testing a proton beam at A51 because of it's proximity to NTTR used for radar testing.

[Anonymous No.15886895]

>>15885682
Interesting read, but you aren't really disagreeing with what people posted ITT.

[Anonymous No.15887424]

http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/tong/em.html
For those who want to start learning about this stuff

[Anonymous No.15887436]

>>15840634
>recohered
Retarded, illiterate faggot.

[Anonymous No.15887439]

>>15840634
>>15841909
>Static, unanimated, stationary image is so crAZY AND AMAZING!!!!!1!!!!11!

[Anonymous No.15887448]

>>15887439
It is pretty cool yeah.

[Anonymous No.15887455]

>>15851732
>I don't appreciate you

[Anonymous No.15887457]

>>15841909
Lasers how do they work?

[Anonymous No.15887466]

>>15842813
>>15844763
>>15844949
>>15845253
>>15845541
>>15845579
>>15845593
>>15847512
It's shit like this that helps me sleep at night, knowing the American military is literally 100 years ahead of the Chinks in every relevant field. It does require one to put that break away civilization and great reset shit to the back of the mind, and many other conditionals, to make this a good thing.

[Anonymous No.15887470]

>>15847358
>ringularity
they didn't even try with that name huh

[Anonymous No.15887846]

>>15887457
Ask Shaggy
>>15887436
I mean, yeah...wavefront reversal and real time holography is pretty cool, faggot.
>>15887470
I for one welcome the forbidden donut.

[Anonymous No.15888207]

>>15880884
>>15881457
I haven't had time to read all that but I accept the screenshot as proof that the video is probably real.

[Anonymous No.15889205]

There does seem to be bits and pieces strewn around everywhere. Look up "Ultrafast target recognition via super-parallel holograph based correlator".

[bar No.15889213]

ok dr basedence

[Anonymous No.15889243]

>>15889205
/sci/ inadvertently stumbled onto some of the deepest glownigger shit imaginable

[Anonymous No.15889373]

>>15889205
>approved for public release
Doesn't that make it a nothing burger?

[Anonymous No.15889377]

>>15889373
No, that means they are attempting to engineer wilder shit using different techniques towards the same concept using some of the things listed above (i.e. weird non-linear characteristics of a BEC)

[Anonymous No.15889900]

>>15841909
>2015 was 8 years ago

[Anonymous No.15890132]

>>15889900
Just imagine being me and finding these old Fark posts almost 20 years ago. There used to be a lot more. The few linked are what was left. For some reason, They® never associated his online ID on Fark with ATS. The ATS posts are a whole lot less explicit than what used to be on Fark. Even the posts that are there, you mostly wouldn't know what the fuck they are actually talking about without some other background (Kenneth Edwards NIAC report specifically. And again, how many of you would even know who Yakov Zel'dovich was if not for this thread? Everyone knows who Stephen Hawking and Edward Teller were, but I'll bet almost none of you knew who Zel'dovich was, despite him beating Hawking on BH Superradiance and cracking radiation implosion for the Soviet thermonuclear weapons program. Not even fucking Wikipedia mentions his work on phase conjugation.

[Anonymous No.15890181]

>>15890132
I know Zel'dovich, there was one particular topic Harrison Zel'dovich spectrum in cosmology that I studied

[Anonymous No.15890411]

>>15890181
Cosmology or optics/photonics are probably the only disciplines you will come across his name. Unless, or course, you are involved with the Russian nuclear weapons program.

[Anonymous No.15891957]

>>15890411
>Unless, or course, you are involved with the Russian nuclear weapons program
Or any of the US programs discussed ITT

[Anonymous No.15892043]

>>15891957
>What US programs?
>I don't see any US programs
>Is anyone else feeling sleepy?

[Anonymous No.15893780]

>>15891957
It's strange how some of the most breakthrough science in the world can fly so far under the radar. I guess things that matter just don't get published in mainstream vanity journals.

[Anonymous No.15893828]

>>15893780
All kinds of things that matter get published. Look at Method of Edge Wave Diffraction. Was literally public domain, but then someone from LockMart read it and off to the races prototyping stealth airframes.

[Anonymous No.15893971]

>>15893780
it's a political thing. the US doesn't want renowned soviet scientists to be known in the west.
ever heard this phrase? "history is written by the victors"..

[Anonymous No.15893985]

>>15893971
It's definitely not, especially given what we have already "stolen" from Soviet researchers like Ulmestev, Vesalago, Zel'dovich, and a few others (there's a plasma sheathe guy, but fuck if I can remember his name). No one in the DoD gives a shit where the theoretical end came from, just the applications thereof

[Anonymous No.15894131]

>>15840634
>>15841909
>>15845011
got pic rel from the comments in the video:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/24967871
can someone download and post the original article? please!

[Anonymous No.15894133]

>>15894131
...

[Anonymous No.15894295]

>>15894133
>>15894131
You can buy the original 1972 version. I doubt it has the handy drawings of the apparatus specified in the State Department copy, though

[Anonymous No.15894689]

>>15893985
The plasma sheathe guy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoliy_Koroteyev

[Anonymous No.15895852]

>>15894133
>>15894131
Here you go

[Anonymous No.15895856]

>>15895852
Also this book "Principles of Phase Conjugation" of Shkinov and Zel'Dovich which you might find useful.
https://file.io/kwEZLJdzOlVc

[Anonymous No.15895858]

>>15895856
Actually I just realized filo.io is garbage, here's the direct link to that book:
library.lol/main/059E4FC62744E7BEDA18F68130F852B6

[Anonymous No.15896592]

>Anomalous optical drag you say?
>Superluminal propagation huh?
>Negative group velocity who?
There is one of these papers I have written by Lene Hau that specifically mention a "light road block" EIT setup that serves as pulse compression mechanism, but of course there is no elaboration outside of that.

[Anonymous No.15896605]

So, they DO elaborate, but just a little. Nothing obviously about 'muh exceeding the critical field limit:
https://groups.seas.harvard.edu/haulab/slow_light_project/slow_light_project.htm
>A thin wire blocks the ‘‘coupling’’ beam from illumi-
nating the center of a magnetically trapped BEC
[Fig. 1(a)], to create a symmetric double light-roadblock.
We then inject two counterpropagating Gaussian-shaped
‘‘probe’’ pulses along the symmetry axis of the trap. The
pulses compress spatially by several orders of magnitude
via the slow-light technique [13] and ultimately fit entirely
inside the BEC.

[Anonymous No.15896769]

>>15841909
I thought the glass was a candle at first. and that makes me wonder... would this work with a candle instead of a distorting glass? it should, right?

[Anonymous No.15897881]

>>15895852
>>15896592
>>15896605
thanks anon for posting these

[Anonymous No.15898347]

>>15897881
Hopefully someone reads these. The Fark links seem to be no as bullshit as some would want to believe, or at least on the polariton driven laser front (maybe even the Kerr Singularity front as well).

[Anonymous No.15898473]

>>15898347
Honestly I think the fark posts are nearly 100% on the level. I remember having a conversation with one of my smart friends and he basically said "I don't think it's real, I've never heard of anything like this" and my immediate thought was "no, you've never heard of ANYTHING like this because this is the stuff that's been covered up for so long and is actually true, so they want you looking in other directions."

[Anonymous No.15898606]

>>15898473
Especially how there are people like Hau attached to the Critical Defense Technology Council (or some shit like that) for the DoD, and there just happens to be a guy that works directly for Raytheon attached to all of her important work. Funny thing about all this is, there is very, very few patents that were generated from Hau, Ketterle, Dutton, etc.. It's really odd because as has been demonstrated ITT, there is metric fuckton of patentable applications. But only patents for the EIT trap and a couple other interesting ones exist, and they are split between Harvard and MIT. 100% there were parents filed that on behalf of the government that pays Harvard or whoever a license fee and/or was intercepted by Group 220 at the patent office. Here is another interesting link from long ago that covers some of this sort of thing in more detail
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread630313/pg3

[Anonymous No.15899007]

>>15898606
Patents are only for technologies that are being put on the market. If you want to keep a trade secret, well, secret then you don't patent it.

[Anonymous No.15899079]

>>15899007
Considering the Air Force Research Lab and Office of Naval Research were the ones funding it all, I would say gagged and licensed. I would imagine all of this except maybe the communications patents are subject to the Invention Secrecy Act, and comms only because it has more direct consumer applications. These are corporations, they are universities that are performing the research. There just happens to be a sprinkling of physicists that also happen to work directly for defense contractors.

[Anonymous No.15899718]

Bump for actual science

[Anonymous No.15901034]

>>15899718
>Bump for actual science
Have we established that what is being discussed is neither fake nor gay?

[Anonymous No.15901043]

>>15901034
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15901052]

>>15901043
Amazing. What about polariton driven lasers that can exceed the Schwinger critical field limit?

[Anonymous No.15901314]

Notice how our friend Zel'dovich's lack of Nobel Laureate status.

[Anonymous No.15901321]

>>15901314
The Nobel committee had a political reason to ignore Soviet science so Soviet scientists often went uncredited. A lot of different fields have people who were lauded in the West for "discovering" something already widely published in the USSR. Elemental discoveries are a big one, where they discovered a lot of the superheavy elements first but credit went to Westerners due to politics.

[Anonymous No.15901341]

>>15901321
But still, Zel'dovich was no slouch on a whole shitload of theoretical fronts.
Hawking was lauded for BH superradiance, but our guy Yakov beat him to it by several years. Not counting his work on optical phase conjugation. Again, would anyone here besides one cosmology anon know who the fuck he was without me posting any of this? It's odd because it appears he is a literal genius-tier physicist. He and his team arrived at radiation implosion shortly after Teller. The discovery was so soon, the Soviets used their intelligence on the US nuclear program to verify if Sakharov and Zel'dovich's conclusions on radiation implosion was theoretically possible. It's not so much that he wasn't a Noble Laureate as he is relegated to relative obscurity despite what has been demonstrated ITT as far as applications of phase conjugation, matter wave or optical.

[Anonymous No.15901423]

>>15901341
>relegated to relative obscurity despite
>despite
Bro, consider the political and military ramifications of this guy's work. He's obscure BECAUSE he came up with this stuff and the USSR deliberately hid his ass for safekeeping.

[Anonymous No.15901436]

>>15901423
Not really. If you look on at the Hellwarth research biography, you will find that he was balls deep in phase conjugate research prior to the "wide" publication in 1985. They didn't hide Ulmestev and "Method of Edge Wave Diffraction". Almost assuredly they didn't understand the ramifications of their research until it was far too late (post SDI). Same thing as Koryotev.

[Anonymous No.15901441]

>month old thread
>284 replies
>63 IPs
just one sad samefag endlessly bumping his vanity thread.
see you in 12 hours when you come back to vainly bump your thread that nobody is reading again.

[Anonymous No.15901473]

>>15901441
Eat a dick, you fucking faggot. We've already been through this.

[Anonymous No.15901484]

>>15901441
To add, are you the retarded faggot that thinks this is fake despite the links from LANL, MIT, Harvard, Princeton, and the Naval Academy Graduate School? You know you're retarded ass can literally but a fucking Barium Titanite crystal and test this for yourself? All you need is the probe beam settings. Thank God there's 50 fucking million sources where you can get this information.
>It's fake
>t. DIA/AFOSI/ONI

[Anonymous No.15901506]

>>15901441
>>15901484
As always, I await your 'fake and gay' response, you fucking nigger faggot.

[Anonymous No.15901561]

>>15901441
What now, you illiterate faggot? Lol. Any "fake and gay" response? Is ONI that retarded and they can't discern what is fake and gay when it's in an optics textbook?

[Anonymous No.15901608]

>>15898606
There are several extremely interesting patents filed under the name Salvatore Cezar Pais which seem to touch upon the concepts discussed ITT. The Intertial Mass Reduction Drive in particular has an extremely detailed background description which goes over much of the supposed science behind it.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4812639

[Anonymous No.15901615]

>>15901608
Did you read the link, anon?
>My guy says no

[Anonymous No.15902936]

>>15901608
I posted this earlier but nobody responded then either. Not sure why, it's the same principle but going at it via a different method

[Anonymous No.15903730]

Does this have any implications on the upcoming QI drive test?