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15831292 No.15831292 [Reply] [Original]

As an engineer, I really believe the entire math education system in secondary institutions needs to be defunded.

Everything after calc 2 quickly drops off in value. Differential equations, shapes and cryptography are useful, but there's definitely a lot of bad math.

>but I can be a professor
This is the same career path as gender studies.

>but I can...
Comp sci and engineering will always surpass you.

>but how can you prove 2+2=4
That's the thing. In the real world math is a good estimate but does not account for the real world. Sure there's perturbation theory, but that's also just an estimate.

The fact us the average person will never need math beyond algebra. Solving equations is archaic, and is dodged with spreadsheets and coding.

>> No.15831299

>>15831292
>Solving equations is archaic, and is dodged with spreadsheets and coding.
How do you think the software knows how to do mathematics at all, be it arithmetic or PDEs? Surely you don't think it reinvents all of modern mathematics on the spot with every calculation?

>> No.15831316

>>15831299
See that's the cool thing. The moment we get a good math ai, the software will just do that. Give it 5 years.

>> No.15831319

>>15831299
Modern math is basically done with a digital addiator. The instructions use a gimmick with addition and relationship tables to make a lot of other operators expedient.

>> No.15831321
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>>15831292
To the oven with you filthy vermin.

>> No.15831324

>>15831292
Most academic disciplines are like that, they're 99% useless and full of fags who will never even try to do anything useful with themselves. They seem to take pride in accomplishing nothing with their careers. The few disciplines that don't fit the description fail to fit because they're 100% useless.

>> No.15831328

>>15831319
who writes the relationship tables?
>>15831316
Funny, I remember them saying this verbatim five years ago. And five before that. And five before that...

>> No.15831330

>>15831328
The difference is now we have fully functioning public facing prototypes, while 10 years ago it was a small amount of highly processed data. Ai text models can already code. Its a matter of time before they get good at it.

>> No.15831333

>>15831292
>This is the same career path as gender studies.
what a retarded take, maths is in everything.
unlike gender which is a mixtire between political retardation and social construct. You can find mathematical logic applied to physics but you can not apply gender studies to physics, unless you are a schizophrenic Frenchman who thinks chairs are female.

>> No.15831334

>>15831330
Whatever you say.
Don't forget, they'll be coming for your field of choice, too, and I'm sure they'll get to it right after they get to ours

>> No.15831367

>>15831292
>derrivitaves in standard deviation corrections and diminishing frequency measures
Invaluable.

>> No.15831373

>>15831292
300k starting reasons disagree

>> No.15831456

If you're not using those in your kind of work, you're doing something wrong. Furthermore, maths is just a tool. They will come in handy someday for the problem you may be trying to solve. Eg, take a look at differential equation, that shit was the very dry when we were taught. But it turns out, if you can reformulate your problem into one of the well known DEs eg Bessel DE, your problem is solved because Bessel DE is very well studied. Obviously this doesn't apply to everyone, one those who can think hard enough.

>> No.15831500

you will never use it, because someone smarter than you will use those difficult and arcane maths ideas like calculus or groups

>> No.15831709

>>15831292
>there's definitely a lot of bad math.
such as what?

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>>15831292
Engineers are our dogs.
>Solving equations is archaic, and is dodged with spreadsheets and coding
>coding
>he wants to code software to manage black mathematical principles without understanding them
OP is a fag.

>> No.15831742

>>15831733
He says living in a halfway house, because his job is a math researcher making less than minimum wage.

>> No.15831862

>>15831742
>he posted on his personal Turing machine, created by a mathematician to solve an abstract problem completely disconnected from any practical consideration whatsoever

>> No.15831882

>>15831862
>Hilbert’s 10th problem
>disconnected from practical consideration
Fuck off poser

>> No.15831894

the only thing that matters:
engineering is cucked math, you have to adapt to the ""real world"" and it's more about what can you afford to do with the little money and people available, in a world that's going to shit
with math you can choose to do that, if you want
or you can choose to live in your own world, and not care about any of those annoying cringe politics and just do something you like (same with physics more or less) (more less than more)

>> No.15831899

>>15831882
you're a moron if you think that was ever posed for practical reasons or the Turing machine was created with practical benefits in mind

>> No.15832138

This is obvious bait, mathfags don't respond, we are better than this

>> No.15832148

>>15831299
>How do you think the software knows how to do mathematics at all
That's where comp sci comes into play. Mathematics is the basis yes but there's a lot of clever algorithms under the hood that makes it all work where just knowing proofs won't help you with real life applications

>> No.15832297

fag post

>> No.15832333

>>15831292
all math is useless until it isn't

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>>15831292

>> No.15833300

>>15831292
spoken like a true engineer
fagit