Should I give up hope that science will cure aging?

[Anonymous No.15827145]

[Anonymous No.15827173]

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-techies-wet-dreams

>The techies may answer that even if almost all biological species are eliminated eventually, many species survive for thousands or millions of years, so maybe techies too can survive for thousands or millions of years. But when large, rapid changes occur in the environment of biological species, both the rate of appearance of new species and the rate of extinction of existing species are greatly increased.[22] Technological progress constantly accelerates, and techies like Ray Kurzweil insist that it will soon become virtually explosive;[23] consequently, changes come more and more rapidly, everything happens faster and faster, competition among self-propagating systems becomes more and more intense, and as the process gathers speed the losers in the struggle for survival will be eliminated ever more quickly. So, on the basis of the techies' own beliefs about the exponential acceleration of technological development, it's safe to say that the life-expectancies of human-derived entities, such as man-machine hybrids and human minds uploaded into machines, will actually be quite short. The seven-hundred year or thousand-year life-span to which some techies aspire[24] is nothing but a pipe-dream.

[Anonymous No.15827218]

>>15827145
Yes. There is too much politics and retardation going on in general across all sciences, but especially in biology. Expensive sciences like biology and chemistry are heavily dependent on funding, which means they can't do anything but follow the gravy train. Right now it's cancer and single cell, yesterday it was personalized medicine and immunotherapy. No clue what's next but it will be equally pointless and the publications will be just as non-reproducible.

I am literally stuck designing an atomic force microscope because it's literally impossible to find a serious lab in bio-anytihng but I don't want to give up my dream of general regenerative therapy. ps. I don't know shit about electronics, I'm learning as I go. I based myself on designs like Dan Berard's.

[Anonymous No.15827222]

>>15827145
Absolutely. You are as good as dead meat, and you will be thrown into the boiler of hell for wanting what humans are not allowed to have.

[Anonymous No.15827226]

>>15827222
The bible says you can't expect god to do all the work, and you must help yourself for the heavens to help you. It also says we should all strive to be perfect, like the first man before we were cursed.
Doesn't that also mean achieving immortality? It is infact in line with god's plan for humans to pursue and achieve immortality, as jesus and god both routinely remind man to strive for this.

[Anonymous No.15827253]

>>15827222
Low IQ post
>>15827226
This

[Anonymous No.15827254]

>>15827226
Like most fedoras you've obviously never read the Bible.

[Anonymous No.15827262]

>>15827254
I have never heard of or met a christcuck who ever even so much as opened the book. Meanwhile, people of all other religions as well as atheists and agnostics are much more mixed relative to both christcuck material and their own.

[Anonymous No.15827269]

>>15827262
lol whatever you say. Your ignorant take already outed you, like every atheist.

[Anonymous No.15827270]

>>15827145
It's going to be a long road of continuing what medicine has always done, fixing some problem with the body. We've got a decent grip on problems caused by external creatures and the environment, now we've got the problem of the body itself developing problems because it wasn't designed to last this long.

Hate to disappoint further, but we won't be getting much further than now. Dysgenic selection pressures are rapidly eroding our ability to have complex civilization, I recon we've got another 50-100 years at most of decent scientific progress before we really start regressing back into dark ages.

Just like Galen, medical progress is going to halt and then reverse for the next 1500 years. A good thing too, as it and many other technologies is the cause of the dysgenic selection pressures that ruin civilization. All a cycle, watch Ed Dutton.

[Anonymous No.15827286]

>>15827270
>We've got a decent grip on problems caused by external creatures and the environmen
Maximum keks.
No we don't. The PR campaigns sure did the trick though. You swallowed it whole like a good little slut.

[Anonymous No.15827287]

>>15827145
Yes, your evolutionary purpose is to breed and increase genetic diversity, once ypu fulfill this need you're no longer needed, nature doesn't need a single static organism it needs a wide variety of versatile solutions for the survival of the species.

The fact that sexual dimorphism, dna recombination, meiosis and other mechanisms are a thing just shows how self-organizing systems are in a constant need for new solutions.

[Anonymous No.15827292]

>>15827287
Nature has plenty of immortal or near-immortal organisms going around. Not only that but many of its creatures reproduce by full duplication (either mechanically or chemically), resulting in genetically identical clones. In fact, many otherwise sexually reproducing species have a fallback asexual reproduction method, including some sharks.

[Anonymous No.15827296]

>>15827292
>Nature has plenty of immortal or near-immortal organisms going around
Which is a tiny percentage of natural life, really shows the difference in versatility between the two.

[Anonymous No.15827304]

>>15827286
We've got decent grip as shown by the lower child mortality and adult deaths from plagues. Why does your opinion differ?
I never said it was a perfect grip, just a significantly better one than previously.

[Anonymous No.15827338]

>>15827296
I don't see how that relates to versatility at all, and you surely have to believe that smaller is better then if that's your metric. Humans are unevolved unlike bacteria based on your thesis.

[Anonymous No.15827340]

No. Don't pay attention to the crabs

[Anonymous No.15827341]

>>15827304
You are so profoundly clueless that you probably wouldn't even fit in on /x/. Read a book.

[Anonymous No.15827342]

tranny thread

[Anonymous No.15827344]

>>15827145
yeah, the frustration of waiting so long is too painful

[Anonymous No.15827345]

>>15827145
I want to start a usergroup for immortality research since 100% of existing immortality "researcher", "research" """lab""" and "research" fund is a complete scam. Best they come up with is meme skincare products.
Not sure where to start though.

[Anonymous No.15827660]

no

[Anonymous No.15827668]

>>15827145
Are you ultrarich? Why do you think the aging-cure would be accessible to you in your lifetime?
Do you understand the implications of a medical treatment that would have a 100% population penetration? That is similar to vaccines, but do you understand the implications what sets aging-cure (i.e. biological immortality) apart from a mere shot that somewhat lessens your chance to die from a disease you highly likely wouldn't have died of anyway?

Please respond.

[Anonymous No.15827684]

>>15827145
You should not be optimistic about it happening within our lifetimes, unfortunately. It may be possible, but we're not very close at all.

[Anonymous No.15827690]

>>15827226
>>15827253
Humans were created to serve the gods, either in the fields producing food or working in the mines to extract minerals until they get weak and die. You are not coded to live more than 127 years.

[Anonymous No.15827692]

>>15827668
This is a really bad take as usual.
First, the elites only benefit from an immortal workforce. Pensions? Fuck that shit. Retirees? No longer. Permanent work-or-die for thousands of years. Next-level slavery.
Second, the pharma who invents immortality will make infinitely more money by selling relatively cheap (say $100k for treatment) rather than very expensive. That's because of how income is stratified in society: an immortal no longer wants an immortality shot, and there are orders of magnitude more people with 100k to spare than people with 1m.
Third, NPCs don't want to be immortal, the very idea gives them "the ick", as you kids say.
Fourth, immortals constantly consoom more of everything, including biologics. Cancer? Goes from unlikely to happen to guaranteed. You bet you're gonna pay the cancer mafia for treatment now.

[Anonymous No.15827705]

>>15827692
>Third, NPCs don't want to be immortal, the very idea gives them "the ick", as you kids say.
A debased and manic fear of death is one of the main features of the NPC.

[Anonymous No.15827724]

>>15827705
NTA but come on now, they all dont even think about it, they talk about how aging is oh so great

[Anonymous No.15827726]

>>15827724
>NTA but come on now, they all dont even think about it, they talk about how aging is oh so great
You're kidding, right? The entire covid crisis was engineered to capitalize on the manic fear of death that NPCs possess. Look how deranged they became about a minor flu because of their fears.

[Anonymous No.15827730]

>>15827726
they are only scared of dying too early but when it comes to immortalty they talk about how le bad it would be, maybe its just a cope cuz its not possible tho idk

[Anonymous No.15827735]

>>15827730
NPCs are pretty much obsessed with immortality. It's all they talk about when anyone brings up advances in medical science.

[Anonymous No.15827738]

>>15827145
it's too complicated a problem and scientists are too dumb, and just getting dumber. I think positive eugenics - breeding for intelligence - alongside some forms of AI would eventually solve it though.

[Anonymous No.15827740]

>>15827738
Positive eugenics would eliminate the urge for technotroonery altogether. Smart people simply aren't suckered in by things like this.

[Anonymous No.15827743]

>>15827740
I agree, but motivations aside, that's the only way i see it being solved practically speaking.

[Anonymous No.15827749]

>>15827735
Yes, they're obsessed by how much it gives them "the ick" and they would never take that kind of deal.

[Anonymous No.15827752]

>>15827705
The main feature is that they are unthinking. They are perfectly happy to maintain many contradictory ideas in their head at the same time and to regurgitate whatever is most in line iwth their programming at any one time.

[Anonymous No.15827755]

>>15827749
>Yes, they're obsessed by how much it gives them "the ick" and they would never take that kind of deal.
No NPCs are desperately afraid of death. There's an entire industry peddling immortality and anti-aging scams to them to allay their fears, which is why Kaczynski had >>15827173 comment about them.

[Anonymous No.15827758]

>>15827270
Dysgenic know it alls such as yourself should choke on European dick and shut up for at least a week. Stop projecting, see how weirdly dogmatic and unjustified your babble is. Blaming tech itself, on the internet, instead of the elite lol, typical coward.

[Anonymous No.15827759]

>>15827749
>>15827752
You seem to have the exact same obsessive fears and desires as NPCs...

[Anonymous No.15827762]

>>15827735
I have seen the opposite effect when acting against aging is directly discussed. Mostly in regards to being bored after a while, or being overwhelmed with grief as loved ones die, or lingering on with a chronic illness, or how 'unnatural' it is, or how it would be used as a pretense to never let anyone retire, or how it would only ever be used for billionaires, and so on.

There's a general sense of cynicism around the concept. Not around its' slim chances of being possible, but around the very notion itself. Which I find strange.

[Anonymous No.15827767]

>>15827762
Those aren't opinions expressed by NPCs. I think you might have had an unwanted encounter with a genuine thinker that overloaded your circuitry.

[Anonymous No.15827768]

>>15827755
Found the NPC

[Anonymous No.15827769]

>>15827768
Yes, I think we can see who the NPCs are. >>15827759 has a point.

[Anonymous No.15827770]

>>15827759
You seem to have the exact same programming as other NPCs...

[Anonymous No.15827771]

>>15827762
This.
>>15827767
>n-no I-I'm not an NPC m-my opinion is u-unique!

[Anonymous No.15827772]

>>15827768
>>15827770
Out comes the script, like clockwork. The NPC reacts viciously when revealed "No u!!!" he cries.

[Anonymous No.15827774]

>>15827769
Tell your programmers to come fix you quick, you're already stuck in an infinite loop repeating the same thing. It's only a matter of time before you break down completely.

[Anonymous No.15827781]

So is this thread just going to be accusations of NPChood, or will anything interesting be discussed?

[Anonymous No.15827826]

>>15827692
>First, the elites only benefit from an immortal workforce.
I don't care about the elites. The elites are powerless, lumbering 120 IQ king-of-midwits.
Your points are, insofar, plausible, but the fact that you bring them up is a bit strange. It's not like there ever will be some cabal of Bezos/Musk-tier industrialists holding a meeting whether they will allow immortality, and one side bringing your precise arguments -- you can milk drones forever, have eternal consumers, etc.
When would such points ever come up? No one needs convincing, because immortality would not happen like *snips finger* that. It'd be a slow accumulation of more and more medical tech.

That was my main point. If immortality is invented, it will be a slow rollout. And if that is the case, like with all cutting edge tech, then only the elites will get ahold of it within the next n years (assume your lifetime).

>Third, NPCs don't want to be immortal, the very idea gives them "the ick", as you kids say.
That is wrong. You don't seem to be very intelligent when it comes to psychology. Just because you consciously and/or subconsciously currently hold a belief about a potential thing, doesn't mean that belief is immutable in the face of the actualized thing. Or in simpler terms, people don't know what the fuck they want until they are faced with the prospect of it actually being available to them. The previous detachment is just a logical simplification about (originally) irrelevancies in your life.

Example: you probably don't believe in heaven/an afterlife. But if you were literally visited by God and all of his angels and they told you Christian heaven actually exists, I bet you would alter your stance about leading a pious life. But currently, heaven is not even in your list of relevant variables.

[Anonymous No.15827850]

>>15827145
israel cured it, start studying the torah or whatever holy book they have

[Anonymous No.15827883]

I know the secret. But I'm not telling everyone because most of them are cunts so I have to know them personally.

Also 100% de-aging is hard because after a point you'll have to fully stop natural oxidation and good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.15828011]

>>15827173
>ted kaczynski
Stopped reading.

[Anonymous No.15828037]

>>15827218
anon i need a good opamp that can have input of 10-20mV I tried OP27G, it dont work do youknow any ?

[Anonymous No.15828111]

>>15827287
Did you just commit a naturalistic fallacy?

[Anonymous No.15828126]

>>15827173
Low IQ post

[Anonymous No.15828131]

>>15827826
Oof, your programming is showing.

[Anonymous No.15828134]

>>15828037
I'm a beginner when it comes to electronics so I can't help there. I just lookup manufacturer specs on my favorite electronics supply store, shove it into the sim, and see what adjustments I need.
/mcg/ or /ohm/ on /diy/ will probably be a better resource for this.
Also, I assume you mean uV, not mV?

[Anonymous No.15828679]

>>15827145
That's a man.

[Anonymous No.15828685]

>>15827145
can science offer the legendary non aging bussy, the eternal femboys on a wide scale for all males, would that protect us from the 'moid menace?

[Anonymous No.15828687]

>>15827341
Why do you believe we don't have a decent grip on illness caused by pathogens? Sewers and antibiotics seem to have worked for the majority of cases.

[Anonymous No.15828691]

>>15827758
Explain why reasoning of dysgenics being real, and it being at least an obvious potential cause of civilizational collapse is wrong in your opinion.

>Blaming tech itself, on the internet, instead of the elite lol
Which group do we have to genocide this time to achieve utopia?

[Anonymous No.15828701]

>>15827668
Information is very hard to keep secret. Immortality therapies will almost certainly be gene therapies. The research done leading up to a "cure" will give everyone else a good idea of what to do next. Combine that with standard data breaches or even some lunatic stealing DNA samples from people already on the therapy, there's little chance it'd remain secret for more than a few decades.

[Anonymous No.15828911]

>>15828701
>Information is very hard to keep secret. Immortality
if we're talking about immortality (for billionaires) and not life extension (for plebs) then it's a fucking race to the top. immortality won't be done with pills and therapies, it will be something else, and takes resources. and has serious implications large scale which they'll use to keep it small scale, between themselves. plebs will be on life extension juice or something, and they'll trade it to plebs for them staying immortal.

[Anonymous No.15828997]

>>15828701
It would be really difficult to hide a clinical trial for gene therapy, especially if it was expanded to a very large sample size...

...Right?

[Anonymous No.15829637]

>>15828701
It's hard to keep secret because it can be rediscovered. You don't need to spy on anyone, you just do the research yourself. So it can't be kept secret, as it keeps popping up over and over once the prerequisites exist. But aging so stubornly resists elucidation that it jyst as well might be kept secret today, and few would know.

[Anonymous No.15829680]

>>15828679
A very cute man, might I add.

[Anonymous No.15829889]

>>15827145
we're already (optimistically) looking at skin regeneration within the decade, so you're going to see the start of the industry starting to form within your lifetime assuming you don't get hit by a bus

[Anonymous No.15829919]

>>15827145
Rose, my beloved.

[Anonymous No.15829931]

>>15829919
HES MY BOYFRIEND

[Anonymous No.15830286]

>>15827145
companies are already going into trials to test anti-aging medicine on animals so as to incorporate it into dog food, so your pets can live much longer lives with you and not get old and crippled

[Anonymous No.15830323]

>>15827668
People used to say this shit about computers you fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.15830339]

>>15827145
I'd forgotten about Rose

[Anonymous No.15830631]

>>15827692
>First, the elites only benefit from an immortal workforce.
well sure but if they'd have a choice between robots and retarded humans with their bullshit, they'll clearly go for robots as we've seen is the trend everywhere where that is possible.
robots (with AI) are immortal as long as you replace the broken parts. don't want fucking rights and are not "approximate", they are quite precise
>Cancer? Goes from unlikely to happen to guaranteed.
that's not how immortality happens you moron. not with immortal body lol. you can still lose that, it's not immortality.

[Anonymous No.15831036]

>>15830631
This argument just doesn’t make any sense since governments and the wealthy are funding longevity research and designating it as high priority due to fears of collapsing workforces.

[Anonymous No.15831047]

you're already ugly, fat, gross, and stupid
you should be grateful that you at least have death as a chance to end your pathetic existence

[Anonymous No.15831059]

>>15830339
>>15829931
>>15829919
>>15829680
>>15828679
how's epi doing
bet he's chad swimming in pussy and money and laughs at poor rosefags that killed themselves because they are fat and virginal

[Anonymous No.15831069]

can you set me up with a job at your big tech company, epster, i will suck your dick i need a break here broski

[Anonymous No.15831073]

>>15830631
>well sure but if they'd have a choice between robots and retarded humans with their bullshit, they'll clearly go for robots as we've seen is the trend everywhere where that is possible.
Well yes, but robots won't be able to do everything for ages, if ever. They will also still need a share of human cattle to maintain the robots; not because they can't potentially self-maintain but due to trust. "not putting all your eggs in the same basket", not as in they'd trust humans.
>and are not "approximate", they are quite precise
That's not at all true with any current advanced automation software tech.
Cancer happens at a higher rate in organisms modified to live longer. Not only is it exactly how it happens, it's more likely to be a problem if there ever is such a treatment.

[Anonymous No.15831077]

>>15829889
Skin product memes have been a thing for decade, it's always only ever been memes.
As for generic regeneration, there's plenty of cool shit around, we can even reliable regenerate optical nerves and succesfully restore sight in humans. But this isn't getting anywhere.

[Anonymous No.15831081]

>>15828687
Sewers have been a thing far, far longer than we've ever heard of pathogens.
In addition, ever heard of antibiotic-resistent bacterias? We do have a decent grip on bacteria and virii compared to all the other health-related topics of concern, but that's not saying much.
Also an interesting fact: there hasn't been a single new antibiotic in 30 years, while we had new ones yearly before then.

[Anonymous No.15831087]

>>15828131
That is incorrect, I didn't actually append a picture of what I am currently working on. But science you requested it, here.

[Anonymous No.15831106]

cursed bitch

[Anonymous No.15831119]

>>15831081
>there hasn't been a single new antibiotic in 30 years
Develop a new one without our authorization and you will be fried alive bitches.

[Anonymous No.15831139]

>>15831036
>are funding longevity research and designating it as high priority due to fears of collapsing workforces.
lol wat. they are doing that so THEY get to use it first and as fast as possible. most of you still haven't figured out what's happening, in the grand scheme of things. quite sad really.

[Anonymous No.15831143]

>>15831077
>it's a meme
isn't really an objection when we're now looking at startups wanting to actually claim regrowing youthful skin cells, and that's been successfully done in vitro already, so it's a serious claim which deserves to be trialled in humans
>[generic regeneration] isn't getting anywhere.
regeneration is a major step forward, going back to the last century this sort of treatment for vision loss (and hearing loss, which will also become a thing in the future, as well as gums and teeth) was unthinkable, and is a significant step for medicine to start looking more at restoring the body rather than fight the perpetually losing battle of suppressing symptoms without tackling root causes

[Anonymous No.15831147]

>>15831139
That isn't an automatic conclusion, since the economic damage which is going to be caused by workforce collapse is easily in the trillions, and even if it were it doesn't matter. All technology has followed the trend of at first being very expensive, and then cheapening so much it's broadly available (computers being an excellent example which was mentioned before).

[Anonymous No.15831149]

>>15831073
>with any current advanced automation
well sure, until it is. at which point we all eat shit.
>>15831073
>Well yes, but robots won't be able to do everything for ages, if ever
people don't get it. humans are not needed for the economy. the economy simplifies without humans. humans are literally middlemen between billionaires and their needs. we are the means to an end, we do shit for them. when they can get their own robos doing shit for them, we are not needed anymore. if there is nothing that you can realistically provide, there's only one ending for that scenario, no matter the cope and stories you keep telling yourself. just look around and pay attention, you'll very fast figure out where this leads to.

[Anonymous No.15831155]

>>15831149
not a soapbox for your pet political theories

[Anonymous No.15831158]

>>15831147
dude you don't get it.
take the following scenario. replace yourself with a robot you build. it does work FOR YOU. it goes to work and does your job for you. the pay you get each month is because he works for you and you just charge that bitch up and maybe some maintenance once in a while. this would work as a concept apart from the whole other details.
then your boss figures out that works too good for you, so he fires you (and your robot) and he buys a robot himself and assigns it the job your robot had. now he doesn't pay you a salary, he just pays the robots maintenance.
billionaires don't loose shit, they just cut out th emiddle man.
with no humans there's no need for a current market, it's way different.

[Anonymous No.15831161]

>>15831155
no but if you had any argument you would have led with it you faggot. you didn't because you either are too dumb to form one, either I'm right, both cases means you get fucked

[Anonymous No.15831165]

>>15831158
This is your own personal political hypothesis which has no evidence for it so there is nothing to discuss.

[Anonymous No.15831171]

>>15831165
you fucking monkey, your whole argument is a circular piece of retardation. humans won't be replaced because it fucks up the economy, and the economy will not change because it would fuck up the humans.
ergo, take out the humans and economy and replace with more efficient/simpler economy and voila, it works great. when I mean no humans I don't mean literally zero humans, I mean practically zero. which is different. there's still humans around, but insanely way less than today.

[Anonymous No.15831177]

>>15831171
>take out the humans
This is the part with no evidence and so far just a waste of time to even discuss.
>>15831171
>humans won't be replaced because it fucks up the economy
I did not say this at any point. I said longevity research is a high priority because governments want to fight declining workforce since it threatens profit. So far this has a lot of evidence for it since that's what the funding is doing right now.
>and the economy will not change because it would fuck up the humans.
I didn't say this either.
Anyway, let's hear how you think this:
>take out the humans and economy
is going to work in practice and you convince everyone that's a plausible idea.

[Anonymous No.15831187]

>>15831177
>since it threatens profit.
this is the part that you can't wrap your brain around because it's not as obvious and your monkey brain defaults to "nah can't possibly be true".
there's no need for humans for the economy you moron. there's need for work, which is different. humans don't have anything special that can't be replaced. how tf don't you get it? less humans doesn't fucking hurt the "economy". the economy is a game we play and that robots can also play. plebs have always been work, since forever. that is the single reason any country they are born in accepts them and doesn't fucking kill them. because they are useful. they work, the country is better off with than without, because of the whole WE CAN FUCKING WORK detail. be it for economy, or defend the country in wars, humans HAVE FUCKING USE. that's all you fucking are you dipshit, the rest of the bullshit you keep telling yourself is not fucking real, but is heavily entertained by all countries, so you have a fucking reason to work. it gives you a purpose. you are being led. not in the sense that it isn't a fair exchange, I'm not arguing that, in the sense that you imagine you are ANYTHING more than just the value you have as work potential. that's it. when you loose that you are so fast out the door you won't even know what hit you. sure you'll have organizations and a bunch of human shit with a bunch of shit trying to keep humans around but bottom line it comes down to money and resources. once you are not a resource you automagically become a liability for whoever is entertaining your existence. you fucking dissonant moron

[Anonymous No.15831192]

>>15831187
I asked how you were proposing this would work in practice and you resorted to having a meltdown.
Have fun making the thread unreadable if you want but I definitely don't intend to waste more time reading this shit board.

[Anonymous No.15831195]

>>15831192
yet still no argument

[Anonymous No.15831198]

>>15827145
israel has immortality serum

[Anonymous No.15831200]

>>15831192
>I asked how you were proposing this would work in practice
humans get replaced with robots. that's how it works. even if some worst case scenario you can sim a human society with robots. have them buy iphones and shit. but that's like the most retarded argument I can make for you so you get it. in practice it won't happen like that. but it's just a worst case scenario example which works and makes my point.

[Anonymous No.15831201]

>>15831200
>i can only offer a completely retarded situation which won't work in practice, but it's a scenario which works and proves my point somehow
>guys why is nobody arguing with me?
>is it because i'm too smart?

[Anonymous No.15831204]

>>15831200
>humans get replaced with robots. that's how it works
yeah, you said that like 50 times already.
how?

[Anonymous No.15831205]

>>15831201
well no, you didn't present any argument for why it won't be like that
>listen, I just feel it bro, it's too wild to happen, can't possibly. I know I have no argument, so I'll just imply that it's "clear" to anyone it won't happen and that's that.

[Anonymous No.15831207]

>>15831204
they buy a robot and make it do your job, and then fire you.

[Anonymous No.15831210]

>>15831207 me
not only that, in a worst case scenario it still makes sense even if they need to build a house for the robot, a fucking mall and sell it a car. and it still happens. it's still better than your aproximate ass.

[Anonymous No.15831212]

>>15831205
>i just feel it bro
sounds a lot like you with how humans are supposedly going to be replaced by robots you can't come up with any reasoning for, there's nothing for anyone to argue with kek

[Anonymous No.15831219]

>>15831212
not sure what you don't get. how did they replace the cashiers at mcdonlads with fucking lcds?
you are completely missing the point of the "market". you imagine without humans there won't be selling and buying and nothing can possibly happen, and you're thinking this while fast frequency trading is a thing. and that's not even factoring AI robots able to replace more complicated human work. with robot body and all.
the thing I constantly see humans getting stuck at, as is also your case now, is with not being able to fathom a scenario in which humans can't offer literally anything better than AI robots can. it's like I'm asking your brain to divide by zero, it craps out and repeats in a loop the same thing "but how bro".
well imagine you did't have fucking breakfast anon. what do when you have nothing to offer? you think you going to the mall and buying that TV is not replaceable? are you fucking insane lol

[Anonymous No.15831267]

>>15827145
Science will not cure aging. It's stochastic. I get into this maybe 15 years ago, research, MD, etc, etc.
My conclusion is that firstly, to a degree we are already immortal. The heart, lung, blood, nutrition,kidney can all be managed medically. Remember when the soviets kept a head alive like 80 years ago? It would suck surely. But of course even then the brain would atrophy in the 100-200 year old range; the arteries within the brain would harden and rupture.
It would be very unpleasant to be kept alive, and people that way are full of drugs for the pain, sedated. IMO to some degree this is the case because our economy would inevitably collapse if we all had that, any economic system would.
Ignoring all that, basically all the systems in the body fail in 50-200 years of age, every single one - kidney, heart, lung, marrow, immune, brain, etc. Everything is all failing as the cells diverge further and further genetically, the DNA errors accumulate. You transform from a body if genetically nearly identical cells to ever increasingly distant neighbors.
My only hope as far as what we may see in our lifetime is a neuralink/braingate advancement. If that offloaded gradually more and more of the mind one could exist digitally. Who is to say at one point consciousness becomes offloaded, but it's in there somewhere.
If you want to learn more and get into it like me, my guidance would be go for neuralink see where that gets you

[Anonymous No.15831285]

>>15831219
>how did they replace the cashiers at mcdonlads with fucking lcds?
now scale this to 8 billion people champ

[Anonymous No.15831289]

>>15831219
>mcdonalds can take automated orders now
>therefore 1000 billionaires are going to become immortal and kill off billions of people and this will end well for them because it just will ok?

[Anonymous No.15831541]

>>15831267
How the hell can you claim to have got into researching this and then come out with probably the most braindead take out there, that somehow mind uploading is a plausible solution to this when we don't even have the faintest clue how to approach the notion of consciousness, much less how it would work to upload a mind digitally, even in theory?

[Barkun No.15831543]

Aging doesn't need to be cured. Aging is perfectly healthy. Immortality is illness.

[Anonymous No.15831545]

>>15831543
screencap this post and read it to yourself when you're 75 and can't get out of bed on your own and need help taking a shit

[Anonymous No.15831599]

>>15830286
this is kino, watching your dog get old and struggle to walk fucking sucks