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Hippocratic oath problem
i was thinking recently about how physicians go about handling incidents that are not clear cut. Example of a clear cut incident would be a young man walks into the A&E with a punctured foot and verbally asks for some help, consenting to their treatment. He sits down,waits his turn and gets healed up. Thanks and goodbye.

Now a more troubling incident would be if a man came in missing his face( I actually saw a webm of such a thing, clip showed a Chinese guy tied to a gurney with his face smashed off from brow to chin.) or someone comes in with a stroke. In these instances the injured party can't communicate with the world and have been profoundly, irreducibly disabled. Now what hospitals will do is administer just enough care to bring these people to a stable condition so that they can live how ever many more years in a miserable condition we can only imagine. My argument is that the ethical oath fails in these instances into consideration ,where taking action is doing far more harm then inaction or palliative care. A man comes in with no face and instead of easing his suffering you force him to live life blind deaf dumb anosmic and incapable of eating anything other than liquid in a tube pushed into his neck. Doesn't seem very ethical to me. These people forget that action does not automatically mean accomplishment.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

>> No.15824430

Is all the fault of the jews and niggers, those parasites are the reason why we are not living in a paradise right now.

>> No.15824436

>>15824430
If only it where that simple. But evil lurks in all men's hearts.

>> No.15824694

>>15824426
>where taking action is doing far more harm then inaction or palliative care
Based on what axiom?

>> No.15824703

>>15824426
Because of the fading vestiges of our once great society it's possible to write a legally binding document pre-emptively refusing such treatments. These are often referred to as "DNR" or "Do Not Resuscitate" orders.

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>>15824694
No axiom, but rather empathy?
How would they( the physicians) wish to be treated if they where in the victims place? Would they want to be resuscitated and stabilised in that terrible condition for which there is no return, no hope of recovery that even approaches 5% of their original condition of health. It's a net loss to assist these people.
I suppose a better ethos when dealing with anyone injured is ' to strive for the maximum net benefit of the parties involved' rather than philosophically flawed impractical Hippocratic oath or similar pledges.
Treat people that they might be able to return to a decent semblance of their previous life. I guess it's a conversation about how disabled is an individual willing to be and still wish to live. It could be categorised based on levels of severity, and on your medical card it could indicate what level of damage you wish for the physicians to no longer attempt to bring you back from.
My aunties mother died recently after spending the last 18 odd years with dementia. She was given a few months to year when they initially assessed her, but the old bat persisted in spite and ignorance for 18 more fucking years, sitting in the corner like some expensive smelly furniture. That wasn't a benefit for her, only a detriment for her and everyone else involved. If that where me with my mother, I would dump a number of syringes of air into her veins and be done with it, and I would hope for the same mercy myself.

>> No.15825043
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Circumcision violates the Hippocratic oath and yet physicians still do it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF0_QBm7Qo0

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>> No.15825660

>>15825043
I've seen this video pop up a few times. her soulless eyes always get me. it's like an approximation of a human emotion.

>> No.15825676

>>15825052
They sell the skin off to some fucker that snacks on them like pringles.