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previous >>15816996

>> No.15821073

I'll take it

>> No.15821075

Kill all earthers as well as all fish and wildlife located on Terra.

>> No.15821079

https://techcentral.co.za/all-of-sadc-starlink-except-south-africa/233921/

Starlink is available in all of Africa except for South Africa. Likely due to SA requiring SpaceX to handover 30% of the company to South African blacks.

>> No.15821084

>>15821079
>handover 30% of the company to South African blacks
wtf, that's racist

>> No.15821087

>>15821084
It's only in regards to local operations, so whoever starlink employees in SA has to be 30% nigger.

>> No.15821088

>>15821079
wait even in places like niger and somalia?

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>>15821079
>>15821088
SADC, not all of Africa.

>> No.15821099

>>15821088
you have NGOs, corporations for resource extraction, tourists/travelers and wealthy people even in the most shithole countries
so the market might not be that big depending on the country but I don't think its going to cost much to SpaceX
they don't do local support and installation (or much support at all for commercial users if I understand correctly)
this is just basically sending a dish and then the receiver paying for it
if the laws aren't completely retarded, there is not much reason not to do it

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https://www.starlink.com/map

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special colour for ukraine

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>>15821104
okay at least antarctica has the same color
kind of weird this isn't on the legend

>> No.15821116

>>15821105
It is on the legend you blind cunt read your own screenshot

>> No.15821118

>>15821103
I'm curious, have there been any studies done on the potential economic benefits/outcomes of Starlink access in third-world and developing cunts? I know that the proliferation of cellphones in rural Africa over the last 10 - 15 years has resulted in useful things such as farmers being better able to keep track of up-to-date prices at different markets, which allows them to sell their produce at the market where they'll get the best return for it.

>> No.15821123

>>15821069
I fucking love AI so god damn much

>> No.15821129

>>15821118
I don't remember seeing any

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Cancel MSR, fund TSR

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> wellfags

>> No.15821144

>>15821118
Not necessarily Starlink, but having IoT farms with greenhouses and tractors hooked up to the internet allows it all to be automated and give better yields or something. But IoT is just a meme grift for sucking up money like 3D printing.

https://retailworldmagazine.com.au/how-5g-will-improve-smart-farming-and-precision-agriculture-in-australia/

>> No.15821147

>>15821069
AIslop made it to /sfg/'s OP

>> No.15821149

>>15821079
>Likely due to SA requiring SpaceX to handover 30% of the company to South African blacks.
Likely due to Elon having daddy issues

>> No.15821153

>>15821118
>any studies
Probably, but youll have to search it. The economic benefits of Starlink in rural area is completely obvious.

1) access to the knowledge of the entire world
2) access to hospitals
3) access to communication infrastructure
4) access to commerce
5) access to uplifting of the entire village

>> No.15821159

>>15821149
no that is an actual law there

>> No.15821176

https://twitter.com/m_tijn/status/1716769040725598320

Starship render vid

>> No.15821194

>>15821069
its so annoying how DallE can make the most obscure no name celebrity farting on the face of a child, but it cant make a Starship which looks normal.

>> No.15821212

>>15821194
It's because it's not well represented in the training data compared to the space shuttle.

>> No.15821214

>>15821212
it cant even make a realistic space shuttle from my experience. There is way too much fantasy nonsense in the data set and it gets confused

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>>15821069
Cancel MSR inshallah

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>>15821212
The ghost of the Shuttle is slowly being exorcised from popular culture

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> pic from 2016
> BO still orbitless
lmao

>> No.15821252

>>15821250
Is New Glenn able to do vertical payload integration

>> No.15821265

>>15821252
New Glenn is exactly as tall as SLS, so you'd need a building that's VAB tall to handle vertical integration. Blue has no plans to build anything even close to that. They'd also need a way to transport the rocket vertically and they don't have that either.

>> No.15821268

>>15821252
the farest theyve got is partially building a mockup first stage tank so they dont even know yet. They are literally at the same stage Starship was at in 2015 when they had one carbon fiber test tank in a warehouse.

>> No.15821277

https://www.hydroreview.com/hydro-industry-news/new-development/hydro-quebec-officially-completes-1-55-gw-romaine-hydroelectric-complex/
>Canada finishes 1500 MW hydroelectric project at a cost of $7.4 billion, or 14% less than the initial estimate
>https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/aug/31/snowy-hydro-2-project-scheme-billion-cost-blowout-kosciuszko-national-park
Australian hydroelectric pumped storage scheme over budget, now expected to cost $14 Billion, more than the JWST. Initial estimates put the cost at $2 billion.

>> No.15821294

>>15821069
anyone still got my SLS vs VAB shitty gimpshop saved?

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I do not

>> No.15821318

The spacex leaker is back
>>>/g/96903851
Its so fucking over

>> No.15821344

>>15821079
that's nigger communists for you

>> No.15821354

>>15821318
whats up with this dude lmao

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>> No.15821369

>>15821079
I find it amusing how Elon seeks to destroy those who wronged him, by leaving them in the dust

>> No.15821382

>>15821369
Not an Elon thing. Its just that Starlink is focused on areas where there is the least amount of friction and most amount to gain.

>> No.15821384

https://twitter.com/DutchSatellites/status/1717190366573564243

Nov 1st approval?

>> No.15821385

https://twitter.com/w_robinsonsmith/status/1717194548638535930

Von Braun Moon to Mars conference live post/tweet

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9xBMunrRKo

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>>15821384
hearing from where?

>> No.15821422

>>15821418
The the emperor of mankind from our future through brain transmission in the dream

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>>15821385
https://twitter.com/w_robinsonsmith/status/1717194548638535930

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>>15821424
> 2/ As @NASAScienceAA Nicky Fox was talking about rovers and landers bound for the Moon, @MoonshotMuseum posted that the @astrobotic Peregrine lander will soon be on the move.
> 3/ Asked about how the various NASA mission directorates work together vs bumping into each other, @JimFree says they did an architecture produces review in January and will have another in about 3 weeks.
> Says the evolution is good to get everyone on the same page.

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>>15821426
> 4/ Asked what the biggest challenges are, Fox says first is funding, citing Mars Sample Return, and second is the uncertainty surrounding the commercial LEO destinations.
> 5/ Ken Bowersox says depending on resources available, the may have to “change the pace of our transition” from ISS to commercial destinations.
>“We’re going to have to work together as a team to figure out how to make that transition as smooth as possible.”
> 6/ Free says when it comes to budgeting and advocacy in the federal budget, they all need to fight for each other’s programs.
> 7/ Prasun Desai, the associate administrator for the Space Technology Mission Directorate, says one of the successes has been commercial partnerships.
>Says investment of advocacy can help move things forward.
> 8/ Fox says they’re seeing success with the CLPS program even though they haven’t launched yet because “we have new commercial partners, which was not possible before.”
> 9/ Free says there’s more opportunity to “tell a compelling story about how we’re changing human history.”
> 10/ Asked about SpaceX HLS schedule, Free says they need IFT-2 to go, but says there are a bunch of other components ahead of Artemis III as well, like EVA suits, docking port.
>Declines to share details of schedule.
> 11/ Asked about something in the Space Ops or Space Tech directorates that made them go “That’s cool!” Desai teases that there will be a press release coming this week for a new telescope inspired when a researcher was at home making pudding.
>Something to keep an eye on.

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>>15821428
> 12/ Bowersox says one amazing aspect for him is the continuous presence of humans living in space for more than 20 years with an international community.
> 13/ Free says they need to take advantage of opportunities with stakeholders (Congress and OMB) to tell each others’ stories.
>References 30-minute call he has later about a program, saying he’ll talk about its benefits for the Science Mission Directorate and others.
> 14/ Bowersox says plan remains to deorbit ISS in 2030 to switch to new commercial stations, assuming they are flying at that point.
Says transitioning the international partnerships is trickier. Adds that science transition is more straightforward.

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Another day not leaving ball earth.

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https://twitter.com/w_robinsonsmith/status/1717177645211804009

The agenda of the conference, the livetweets are for the middle one "The AA Team: Leading the Way from the Moon to Mars"

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https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1717152997711425539

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>>15821456
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1717163473400926410

So I guess the Congress hearing did have an effect? Would be quite a weird coincidence otherwise that they start doing shit right away after that
what the fuck were they doing before this?

>> No.15821464

>>15821437
> 15/ Asked about a worst-case scenario, Bowersox points to Roscosmos only committing to the ISS through 2028 for budgeting reasons. He believes they will support through 2030 though.
>Notes the current development of a de-orbit vehicle and getting it properly funded is key too.
> 16/16 That’s it for this panel. We’re in a networking break now and back at it again at 11:10 am CT.

>> No.15821467

>>15821456
>>15821458
lmao, I bet some congressman gave them a call.

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A previous panel livetweeting thread from the same journalist

https://twitter.com/w_robinsonsmith/status/1717179767349276956

> The first main panel of the symposium is focusing on the Artemis program, featuring the heads of the key programs:
>• @NASA_SLS
>• @NASA_Orion
>• @NASAGroundSys
>• @NASA_Gateway
>• Human Landing System

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>>15821470
> 2/ John Honeycutt, in speaking about SLS, said they were “learning right up until the end” on the shuttle program and learned a lot from the Artemis I launch as well.
>Says it’s important that the success of Artemis I doesn’t allow them to get complacent on Artemis II.
> 3/ Howard Hu, Orion program manager, notes that during the Artemis II mission, there will be a 24-hr checkout period in high Earth orbit before they do a TLI (trans-lunar injection).
>Recalls that they captured 261 lessons learned through ground processing and on orbit.
> 4/ Shawn Quinn, program manager for EGS, says SLS team is working on a “more robust flight-ground interface for hydrogen in the future that may be available on Artemis III.”
>This is a way to avoid future hydrogen leak issues seen on the first mission, along with fueling changes.
> 5/ Regarding capsule/crew recovery on Artemis II, Quinn says the emergency egress system at the pad is the biggest change.
>Says construction is complete and they are entering a testing phase.
>Flight crew will be on hand for an ocean recovery drill in February.
> 5/ Jon Olansen, the Gateway program manager, emphasizes the international qualities of the Gateway undertaking.
>There’s a lunar comm system from ESA, batteries from Japan and Canadarm-3 from Canada.
>JAXA and SpaceX are providing logistics capabilities in the future as well.

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>>15821474
> 6/ Regarding its future implications, Olansen says the orbit of Gateway will allow for further study of heliophysics.
>It also provides access to cis-lunar space for international partners.
> 7/ Lisa Watson-Morgan, the Human Landing System program manager, emphasizes that they’re navigating the challenges of matching up more traditional procurement systems and new technologies (SpaceX and Blue Origin-led landers) and EVA suits (Axiom Space and Collin’s Aerospace).
> 8/ Watson-Morgan says fixed-price arena allows them to do more with funding, but does create some challenges on holding firm requirements and creating accountability for hitting performance-based milestones.
> Says the endeavor is exciting.
> 9/ Regarding the timing of egressing the crew from Orion after splashdown, Quinn says they’ll get them out as quickly as possible (less than 2 hours).
> Hu adds that because they want to reuse elements in the crew cabin, they want to try and limit the amount of water that gets in.
> 10/ Talking about commercialization, Honeycutt notes the exploration of contracting out the SLS rocket and NASA would purchase services.
>“That sounds good to me, but the devil’s in the details… We’re just getting started on that.”
>Goal is to free it up as a commercial vehicle.
> 11/11 That wraps up this panel.

lol still talking about commercializing SLS, who the fuck are they kidding? come on

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>>15821415

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>>15821478

>> No.15821481

>>15821478
I can't wait for the next starbase tour.

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Stupid faggot OP didnt stage the thread or give it an edition, lurk moar. In other news, wtf overGODS are getting btfo left and right. Our response?

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>>15821484
Its a mariners notice for November 6th 2023. https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/lnms/lnm0843g2023.pdf

>> No.15821488 [DELETED] 

>>15821123
Kill yourself ai obsessed faggot

>> No.15821509
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TWO MORE WEEKS

https://x.com/space_time3/status/1717205486888489291?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

>> No.15821520

>>15821509
This basically means the launch license has been granted. Holy shit

>> No.15821529

>>15821509
YYYHEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!

>> No.15821535

>>15821509
Wasn't there a notmar for nov 1 already? Was that rescinded?

>> No.15821550

>>15821509
Is there any chance this could be something they asked for ages ago before all this shit with the fish and wildlife cunts delayed everything?

>> No.15821551

>>15821277
Looks like it's not only space that has huge cost overruns

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>>15821520
I just posted that here >>15821484
faggot. Do you retards only respond to twitter screenshots? Also two more weeks we had a mariners notice in September

>> No.15821558

>>15821552
The other anon did it better.

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>>15821552
Because your post has no reference to any date of when it was issued or what is the time it goes into effect. Could be from IFT-1 or the one earlier. Learn to post.

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>>15821564
Negroid I linked it right below you brainlet >>15821487 I even included the source and obviously if I posted it just now it was seen just now. THE OTHER ANON JUST SAID TWO MORE WEEKS AND POSTED A SHITTER LINK WITH THE TRACKER STILL ON IT WHAT DO YOU MEAN LEARN TO POST???

>> No.15821574

>>15821569
Maybe people sensed that you're a wojak poster.

>> No.15821579

>>15821552
You gotta be the dumbest nigger on Earth

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>>15821574
Oh so you want me to be a frogfag then? Fine with me but how about you tell me what I did wrong compared to the other anon?

>> No.15821581

>>15821580
read this
>>15821564

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>>15821569
no need to be upset
just make a better post next time

>> No.15821590

>>15821580
you just need to make the post more clickbaity if you want replies

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>>15821579
Enjoy your vacation
>>15821581
Ok so somehow that anon did it better by literally just reposting a Xitter link and including literally none of that in his own post, but mine having some elements and original source was worse? Fuck off
>>15821584
I can understand this but if I make it too long then ADHD zoomers will say
>words words words didnt read
Also frogGODS I kneel

>> No.15821595 [DELETED] 

>>15821590
Noted.

>> No.15821597

Why tf is it so hard to find information about the performance of electric thrusters and their propellants, has it seriously never been done or is it just not on the internet? I just want to be able to compare thruster types, propellant characteristics, and thrust/voltage curves for electric propulsion systems the same way I can intuitively compare GG/Expander/FRSC/ORSC/FFSC engines, hypergolics vs kerolox vs methalox vs hydrolox, etc.

My suspicion is that sodium metal may actually be the goat electric thruster propellant in terms of $/kms^-1 of delta V, ie in every practical sense. It's decently dense too, is easy store and handle in an oxygen free environment, and it's likely common enough to be sourced locally almost everywhere.

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friendly reminder that starship will never fly again after this year's april disaster

>> No.15821604

>>15821599
friendly reminder to kill yourself once proven delusional

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Finally some more two weeks posters to help me out I've been asking for help for two weeks now.

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>>15821604
Just two more weeks!

>> No.15821608

>>15821605
I'm going to wait for some more confirmation before I start 2 weeks posting

>> No.15821610

>>15821149
>not wanting to give away 30% of your company to blacks for free is a daddy issue
Do you really think anybody is going to believe that?

>> No.15821612

>>15821607
>two more weeks
>never fly again
friendly reminder to kill yourself once proven delusional

>> No.15821613

>>15821141
>the asteroid well is far wider than any of the others
goofy illustration

>> No.15821615

>>15821612
is this a bot?

>> No.15821616

>>15821613
I suppose it was an attempt to show how small it is comparatively, but it's not very well executed. Those things are never in proportion anyway

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>>15821604
>>15821612
hope youre ready for falcon 9 launch cadence werebacktard
>>15821615
no were not bots you dumb fuck. history repeats itself and only nutoddlers dont know this.

>> No.15821619

>>15821613
every gravity well is infinite so where you draw the bound is arbitrary.

>> No.15821621

>>15821618
>falcon 9 launch cadence
>never launch again
imagine moving the goalposts by infinity amount

>> No.15821622 [DELETED] 

>>15821619
>That newfag doesnt understand even the basics of gravity
Dont feed him any more info

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something i've been trying to figure out...if iran and america go to war, would it be the first time that america has fought a country with real space capabilities? iraq made attempts but failed, and yugoslavia had a satellite tv company that was bombed by nato, but iran has civil and military launchers along with satellites and military space units.

>> No.15821624

>>15821618
they have a lot of relevant knowledge already, much more capital and a factory almost ready to go
the cadence will increase much quicker

>> No.15821625

>>15821619
Yes, so what is the image trying to convey by showing the asteroid's gravity well to be several times wider than Mars'?

They should all be equally wide, since infinitely wide isn't an option. This would make it clear that the depth of the gravity wells is the difference being illustrated.

>> No.15821626 [DELETED] 

>>15821621
Do you think that I >>15821618
am this anon >>15821599? Because you're wrong.

>> No.15821627 [DELETED] 

>>15821623
This isnt spaceflight related go back to /pol/

>> No.15821629

>>15821612
"; DROP DATABASE ; "

>> No.15821631

>>15821627
wrong. we could see the first attacks on spaceports, ground stations, missile interceptions in vleo, and endless press releases by space force. i remember ussf kept bringing up their role in the iranian missile attack on american troops in iraq.

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>is this a bot?
>"; DROP DATABASE ; "

>> No.15821637 [DELETED] 

>>15821631
Meds now

>> No.15821639 [DELETED] 

>>15821636
Tsmt also this isnt the original basedjak poster (me)

>> No.15821641 [DELETED] 

>>15821639
Fucking automod I forgot they filtered it in here.

>> No.15821643
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15821643

China’s commercial launch firms get space station cargo boost
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https://spacenews.com/chinas-commercial-launch-firms-get-space-station-cargo-boost/
> HELSINKI — China’s human spaceflight agency says the country’s commercial rocket companies could launch low-cost cargo missions in the future.
> The China Manned Space Engineering Office (CMSEO) opened a call for proposals for a low-cost cargo transportation system to supply the Tiangong space station in May this year. Four from a total of 10 submitted proposals meeting requirements were selected to proceed to the detailed design study phase in September.
> Despite submissions from commercial companies, the chosen proposals came from entities belonging to state-owned enterprises.
> “Each of these companies is developing rockets with a carrying capacity of 4 tons to 6 tons [to low Earth orbit],” Lin said. “The overall cost performance is very high.”
> Chinese commercial launch companies developing rockets in this payload capability range or beyond include Landspace (Zhuque-2, already flown), Space Pioneer (Tianlong-3), Galactic Energy (Pallas-1) and Orienspace (Gravity-1).
> Tomas Hrozensky, a senior research fellow at the European Space Policy Institute (ESPI), told SpaceNews earlier this year that the CMSEO program is a clear indication that China is seeking to replicate the approach which yielded NASA a major success.
> Lin also stated that CMSEO had solicited proposals for a lunar rover for the country’s crewed lunar missions. China is aiming to land a pair of astronauts on the moon before 2030.
> More than 40 entities formed 14 joint teams to submit formal intentions, Lin said. Of the submitted proposals, 11 teams have passed the first round review and proceed for further evaluation.

>> No.15821648
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NASA emphasizes need for mission authorization, U.S. and Chinese officials meet to discuss space safety
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https://spacenews.com/nasa-emphasizes-need-for-mission-authorization/
> LAS VEGAS — Ongoing development of a regulatory framework for overseeing new commercial space activity is critical to NASA’s long-term exploration plans that will rely increasing on the private sector, the agency’s deputy administrator said.
> “We are leaning heavily on our commercial partners. Our industry needs a clear, timely and consistent path to success and safety,” she said, citing “the risk to all space activities of not having some form of coordinated oversight that has clarity for both NASA and the industry.”
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https://spacenews.com/u-s-and-chinese-officials-meet-to-discuss-space-safety/
> LAS VEGAS — American and Chinese officials met recently to discuss space situational awareness (SSA) data, part of broader efforts by the U.S. to better understand emerging national SSA systems.
> Sandra Magnus, chief engineer for the Office of Space Commerce’s Traffic Coordination System for Space, or TraCSS, said the head of the office, Richard DalBello, met with Chinese counterparts on the sidelines of the International Astronautical Congress in Baku, Azerbaijan, earlier this month.
> “TraCSS envisions the future of SSA to be a globally federated system of providers with a series of interconnected national or regional hubs providing SSA information and services to spacecraft operators,” DalBello said in a statement to SpaceNews Oct. 24. “The first steps in implementing such a vision would be to engage in a broad international dialogue focused on standards and best practices, and this dialogue should be coordinated with the ongoing work of the UN on long-term sustainability.”

>> No.15821649

>>15821509
WE'RE SO BACK

>> No.15821650
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ESA to Begin Testing Ariane 6 Upgrade, UK Space Agency Signs Agreement with Axiom Space
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https://europeanspaceflight.com/esa-to-begin-testing-ariane-6-upgrade/
> The European Space Agency has announced that it will begin testing a carbon fibre-reinforced plastic liquid oxygen tank that will be used aboard the Ariane 6 Icarus upper stage.
> Once testing of the oxygen tank has been successfully completed, testing of a hydrogen tank of a similar scale will begin. This is expected to occur next year. Testing of a full-scale structural demonstrator of the upper stage is then expected to begin in 2025.
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https://europeanspaceflight.com/uk-space-agency-signs-agreement-with-axiom-space/
> The UK Space Agency has signed an agreement with Axiom Space to pave the way for a commercially sponsored astronaut mission.
> According to a 25 October press release, “UK astronauts” (suggesting more than one astronaut) would spend two weeks in orbit carrying out scientific research, demonstrating new technologies, and participating in educational outreach activities.
> The UK is the fourth European country to sign an agreement with Axiom for a commercially sponsored astronaut mission.

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>>15821649
Falcon 9 launch cadence AND two more weeks for you xir.

>> No.15821652
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15821652

Senate Confirms Mike Whitaker as FAA Administrator, Aalyria Plans to Deploy Laser Terminals at Sea
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https://payloadspace.com/senate-confirms-mike-whitaker-as-faa-administrator/
> The FAA finally has a permanent leader after an 18-month vacancy.
>The Senate voted 98-0 to approve the nomination of former FAA deputy Mike Whitaker to serve a five-year term as head of the agency, which has a hand in overseeing the commercial space industry.
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https://payloadspace.com/aalyria-plans-to-deploy-laser-terminals-at-sea/
> Aalyria is building a mesh network of laser links to quickly transmit data across land, air, sea, and space. The sea-based piece of that plan is about to get a boost.
> Yesterday, the DC-based laser comms networking company announced that it signed an MoU with HICO Investment Group, which focuses investment in shipping and logistics companies. Under the agreement, Aalyria will deploy up to 200 of its Tightbeam laser terminals aboard ships in the Middle East, Asia, Europe, Africa, and the Caribbean.
> Meshing well: Aalyria emerged from stealth last year with a trove of IP acquired from Alphabet and a plan to revolutionize connectivity. The company has two products:
> 1) Tightbeam, a laser terminal that can transmit 100 Gbps per wavelength in both directions simultaneously. The terminal can attach to terrestrial, maritime, airborne, and space platforms.
> 2) Spacetime, a network orchestration software that charts the most efficient route for a piece of data over large networks. The company has a contract with Rivada Space Networks to orchestrate communication over its planned 600-bird constellation.
> Aalyria’s approach to laser comms could eliminate the need to lay miles of fiber-optic cable or to tap into a purely satellite network for fast connectivity.
>“It’s kind of like going from copper to fiber, back in the day,” Aalyria CEO Chris Taylor told Payload. “This is a really big inflection point for connectivity.”

>> No.15821653 [DELETED] 

>>15821650
>ariane 6 'upgrade'
they were just bitching that they cant compete with spacex because their rockets are outdated and outclassed in every single way btw

>> No.15821654 [DELETED] 

>>15821652
>98-0 vote
ok well was that just a 'who gives a shit' vote or is he just that good.

>> No.15821681

>>15821654
I don't like the smell of unanimous votes

>> No.15821682

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/boeing-says-it-cant-make-money-with-fixed-price-contracts/
>Boeing says it can’t make money with fixed-price contracts
>"As you know, part of the challenge we're dealing with are legacy contracts that we need to get out from under. Rest assured, we haven't signed any fixed-price development contracts, nor intend to.
So Boeing gives up on competing against SpaceX?

>> No.15821686

>>15821681
Neither do I. Deploy the SpaceX lobbyists, palms must be greased.

>> No.15821687

>>15821682
Isn't this just admitting that you are incapable of getting anything done that is asked of you? They're essentially declaring that they exist purely to swindle taxpayer dollars for nothing in return.

>> No.15821689
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>>15821682
Boeibros...

>> No.15821691

>>15821509
Fuck yes

>> No.15821694

>>15821682
lmao fuckin boing

>> No.15821696

>>15821682
Lmao, just when DoD is considering switching to fixed price contracting, Boeing crosses their arms and pouts saying "ok then i wont do it!" hahaha then die

>> No.15821702

>>15821696
No one else makes big planes anymore. Would congress really be fine ordering cargo planes or whatever from Airbus?

>> No.15821703
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>>15821509
not so fast

>> No.15821704

>>15821682
so write no contracts at all I guess?
why would you use Boeing and not some better, cheaper startup, plenty of those coming up

>> No.15821705
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>>15821682
lol

>> No.15821708

>>15821682
>>15821687
It's an open declaration of incompetence. Boeing needs to be given the Old Yeller treatment.

>> No.15821711

>>15821682
When will SpaceX buy Boeing

>> No.15821712

>>15821703
css thinks the propellants get vented after every wet dress rehearsal rather than simply pumped back into the gse tanks

>> No.15821713

>>15821702
I don't see why not
Airbus expanded to US and makes planes in Alabama for a couple of years now

>> No.15821714

>>15821702
The American government may need Boeing's airplanes, but that doesn't mean Boeing has any value as a space company. They obviously can't fulfill space contracts on time or on budget, they've admitted so themselves.

>> No.15821715

>>15821712
>css thinks
Citation needed. I've yet to see evidence of him possessing a single brain cell.

>> No.15821720

>>15821682
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

>> No.15821725

>>15821711
The FTC right now is run by leftists who don't even care about consumer welfare; they'd never agree to let SpaceX expand. Maybe under a Republican administration, but even that seems unlikely. The only realistic way that I can see for SpaceX to raise the necessary capital would be a Starlink ipo, but they'd probably get more value out of dumping that money into R&D. Taking over Boeing doesn't accomplish very much since Boeing's decades behind them in space, unless Musk wants to go into the airline business.

>> No.15821729

>>15821705
>>15821682
>1 billion in losses
>7 years late
and that's assuming no more delays (lmao)

>> No.15821735
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15821735

Interstellar travel soon

>> No.15821736

>>15821735
Dubious.

>> No.15821738

>>15821735
Two more decades (centuries)

>> No.15821743

>>15821738
Optimistic

>> No.15821744

>>15821735
AI slop

>> No.15821754

>>15821725
>unless Musk wants to go into the airline business.
electric aero-planes

>> No.15821765

>>15821648
This is a hilarious footnote to the end of government space program's monopoly on access to space. NASA, who uses the catchphrase "space is for everyone" is busy making sure they can be the FAA to the stars.

>> No.15821766

>>15821754
Musk would build the Starship of planes. No part of Boeing is applicable

>> No.15821785

>>15821766
but planes are already reusable

>> No.15821786

>>15821105
>>15821104
>>15821103
>>15821101
Odd that SpaceX considers Northern Cyrprus a separate country seeing as only Turkey recognizes them

>> No.15821787
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15821787

>>15821736
>>15821738
Mike will be vindicated by the upcoming test in space

>> No.15821796

>>15821118
The biggest impact will be connecting even more scammers to their victims.

>> No.15821800

>>15821087
Jesse?

>> No.15821805
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>>15821682
Oof

>> No.15821806
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15821806

Some updates on ABL

https://harryohanley.substack.com/p/flight2

Had no idea that their whole shtick is they can set up a launch pad anywhere in the world on a moments notice. Cool

>> No.15821807

>>15821766
there are other people building electric planes, doesn't really make sense
when Tesla has a vehicle in all categories and they are ramped up, then maybe
but Tesla has a lot to do even if all of that was done with the self driving and robots, so maybe not even then

>> No.15821808

>>15821806
Nobody cares

>> No.15821812

>>15821806
>their whole shtick is they can set up a launch pad anywhere in the world on a moments notice
So... they're looking for military contracts? But they're about 50 years too late for this sort of thing.

>> No.15821819

>>15821806
that is not unprecedented and not really a competitive advantage

>> No.15821826

>>15821806
Wow just like Virgin Orbit and Astra!

>> No.15821832

>>15821806
It's something the military has expressed an interest in. Every small launch company needs a side gig to help close their business case, and this is better than Astra's "we'll just be extra super cheap and launch a billion times a year."

>> No.15821837

>>15821715
excellent point

>> No.15821854

You guys act so pompous about CSS, but what do you think to Pressure Fed Astronaut? The guy has a masters degree in rocketry and thinks starship is a scam. https://www.youtube.com/@pressure-fedastronaut6511

>> No.15821855

>>15821854
seething faggot that works for a competitor (lockheed martin if your shitposting was correct the last time you brought this fag up)

>> No.15821869

>>15821424
>The AA Team
Did they put Alcoholics Anonymous in charge?

>> No.15821877
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15821877

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1717281160232120405

>> No.15821884

>>15821877
>"By the way, SpaceX does not insure its rockets or payloads. Do you feel lucky?"

>> No.15821885
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https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1716979494324736178

>> No.15821887
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>>15821806
https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1717236447311548451

>> No.15821892
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https://twitter.com/Firefly_Space/status/1717232318904258575

>> No.15821894
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>>15821892

>> No.15821896
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15821896

>>15821894

>> No.15821899
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15821899

https://twitter.com/WeAreSpaceScout/status/1717214823384035711

>> No.15821905
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>>15821899
https://twitter.com/WeAreSpaceScout/status/1717214826672370069

>> No.15821909
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15821909

https://twitter.com/lorengrush/status/1717200788315852877

>> No.15821910

>>15821892
>>15821894
>>15821896
Good cadence. Their future is looking bright and their rocket is way better than Electron.

>> No.15821913

>>15821909
>loren grush
stopped reading right there

>> No.15821916

>>15821854
>so pompous about CSS
He's a literal retard, it's not being pompous to call him a retard.
>pressure fed astronaut
from what I remember of his videos his arguments boiled down to "I doubt they will do this and the industry doesn't do this therefore spacex can't do it". He never made a single point that stuck, and while you may not believe me, I am actually critical of Starship like any other rocket design. He simply failed to point out anything that makes Starship a bad design.

>> No.15821917

>>15821909
Rocket Launch Company ULA Is Ready-Made for a Buy, CEO Says
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https://archive (dot) ph/20231025194220/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-25/ula-ceo-says-his-space-launch-firm-is-ready-made-for-a-buy
> United Launch Alliance LLC’s chief executive officer views his firm as an attractive acquisition target given its deep backlog, reliable profits and a new rocket poised to challenge SpaceX.
> “If I were buying a space business, I’d go look at ULA,” CEO Tory Bruno said in an interview at Bloomberg’s headquarters in New York. “It’s already had all the hard work done through the transformation. You’re not buying a Victorian with bad plumbing. It’s all been done. You’re coming in at the end of the remodel, so you can focus on your future.”
> Bruno declined to comment on whether or not ULA is looking for a prospective buyer. “The only scenario where I would be able to talk about an M&A is after it happened and it was announced,” he said about a merger or acquisition.
> Bruno said that ULA’s corporate structure has been a challenge for the company’s decision-making over the years. United Launch Alliance is a joint venture between defense heavyweights and competitors Lockheed Martin Corp. and Boeing Co. They formed ULA in 2006 to provide assured access to space for the US Department of Defense’s satellites.
> “Our ownership structure is complicated,” Bruno said. “It has served us well up to this point. But I would not tell you that it’s agile.” Any sale of ULA would be have to be decided by its board, which Bruno isn’t part of. The board seats are equally split between Lockheed and Boeing.

>> No.15821920

>>15821917
> When it was formally announced in 2015, Vulcan was supposed to fly as early as 2019. But its launch date has been pushed again and again, in large part due to late delivery of Blue Origin’s BE-4 engine.
> “I planned on them being about a year late, and I had accommodations for them being two years late,” Bruno said. “And it’s been more like three years late.”
> After delivering its first engines to ULA in late 2022, Blue Origin has now moved to the production phase of engine making, with plans to ramp up over the coming years, Bruno said. Ultimately, Bruno wants Blue Origin to deliver one BE-4 a week, but at the moment he says the company is averaging one BE-4 every month. Bruno said he spoke to Bezos earlier this month about the company’s production.
> Right now, ULA is targeting a three-day launch window for its first launch of Vulcan that spans from Dec. 24 to 26. For this mission, ULA has an instantaneous launch window each day, meaning Vulcan must launch within a one-second time frame or push to the next day.
> If all goes well with its December debut, ULA aims to fly as many as seven Vulcan launches in 2024, depending on deliveries of its payloads. Then in the first half of 2025, the company plans to double that cadence, leading to a pattern of launches every two weeks later that year.
> “We’re in a really great position with a very, very large backlog of orders,” Bruno said. “We’re profitable – really the only launch company in the world that is consistently profitable.”

>> No.15821926

>>15821884
Insurance is a scam. Take fire insurance for example. You are essentially betting a huge sum of money that your house will be fire damaged one day, soon enough that the payout will be greater than what you've paid the company, AND that the insurance company won't find some bullshit reason to deny that they owe you anything as much as possible for as long as possible (which they absolutely will do).

>> No.15821930

>>15821917
>>15821920
I can't help but hear a snake hissing when reading anything written by Tory

>> No.15821939

>>15821877
Kill all bureaucrats

>> No.15821945
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>> No.15821956

>>15821917
>ULA Is Ready-Made for a Buy, CEO Says
ULA doesn't build any of their propulsion systems. Tanks are cheap and simple. The Michoud factory is impressive but all the tooling in it is for building Vulcan. Apart from that it's just a big building and you can buy or build those anywhere. The only thing of value about ULA is their NSSL-2 that they still haven't managed to launch. If you buy them, you buy their launch obligations, just like how Boeing got the Delta III's 12 Huges Space launches when they ate McDonnell Douglas. 60% of NSSL-2 is twenty high-priced government payloads for the low cost of ULA's 5-7 billion dollar evaluation. SpaceX can't make an offer for sole-source reasons but I can't see Blue Origin not being interested, given how thirsty for government money Bezos is.

>> No.15821957

>>15821926
Don't forget that its mandatory if you have a mortgage because the (((bank))) still owns the house and they aren't allowed to lose.

>> No.15822009

>>15821945
?

>> No.15822015

>>15822009
its a bot or a schizo

>> No.15822057

>>15821467
I hate Cruz, but it was probably him. He was trying to shill Texas as the new Florida for Space, and if everyone else saw him do nothing then they would presume that Texas wasn't actually a good place to set up shop after all.

>> No.15822067

>>15821884
SpaceX does though? They self-insure because it's cheaper.

>> No.15822068

>>15821458
>what the fuck were they doing before this?
They were doing nothing, which is exactly what they're usually paid to do

>> No.15822079
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>US Space Operations Command revealed its first official painting on Oct. 20. The artwork “High Ground Intercept” depicts a futuristic US space vehicle intercepting an adversary satellite, who in turn is positioning to disable a friendly satellite.
https://www.spoc.spaceforce.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/3563815/space-operations-command-reveals-futuristic-official-painting
https://twitter.com/ryankakiuchan/status/1717276969287696879
Spaceplane bros, we are SO back

>> No.15822081

>>15821702
What? Shitloads of American companies make big planes, dude. Northrop, Locksneed, and about a dozen startups can handle wingman drones if you are worried about fighters. As for cargo and transport planes that's most Locksneed as well, and Airbus too since Airbus has a factory in the US now and is planning on producing A-400's to replace parts of the aging C-130 fleet. Oh, and you got shit like the Liberty Lifter which could be build by literally anyone since we got no idea who would actually be in the running.

>> No.15822116

>>15822079
Imagine a giant space force shuttle launched on SuperHeavy

>> No.15822131

>>15822116
Sounds gay

>> No.15822168

>>15822116
Sounds straight

>> No.15822171

>>15822168
Faggot

>> No.15822176

>>15822131
Straggot

>> No.15822178
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>>15822171
Faget

>> No.15822182
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15822182

>>15822176
Straget

>> No.15822188

>>15822182
Woah is this contemporary or of-its-time?
The art style is based

>> No.15822189
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15822189

mfw musk is seething about his rocket cant go up

>> No.15822196
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>>15822188
yeah i think its from the 60s
reusing the s-ii would be wiser because your recovery hardware could have a bunch of commonality with pic related but itd still be p cool

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>>15822189

>> No.15822212

>>15822197
lucky guy holy crap

>> No.15822214
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WE ARE BACK

>> No.15822215
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>>15822189
>>15822212

>> No.15822219

>>15822214
Shut up this means nothing two more weeks you dont even know why this would mean anything

>> No.15822221

>>15822189
Felongated Huskrat btfo

>> No.15822224

>>15822214
I miss the old NASA website

>> No.15822231

>>15822219
cope

>> No.15822232

>>15822231
Ok explain why its important then tard

>> No.15822235

>>15822232
TWO WEEKS

>> No.15822239

>>15822232
Read the room.

>> No.15822243

>>15822232
Why? Can't you see what's in the picture?

>> No.15822248
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The GREAT RED SPOT has turned pumpkin* for the Holidays. Thank yoy

>> No.15822250
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15822250

What will /sfg/ dress up as for Halloween?

>> No.15822251
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15822251

>>15822248
Asterisk?

>> No.15822256

>>15821424
>Kurt Vogel
What the fuck lmao

>> No.15822257

>>15822250
best advertising.

>> No.15822262

>>15822079
>“Because of the highly classified nature of many space operations, SpOC requested that Herter rely on historic space planes and his own imagination,” explained Christopher Rumley, command historian.
Spaceplane bros, it's so over

>> No.15822264

>Boing makes public declaration of incompetence
>Tory trying to lay the groundwork for a ULA sale
>two more weeks confirmed
Today was a good day

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>First day at SpaceX
>Junior Assistant to Mr. Musk's Assistant
>You get introduced to your new coworker

>> No.15822302

>ai OP
>thread is complete shit
Who would have guessed the outcome of this predicament

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>>15822302

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>>15822311

>> No.15822341

>>15822264
I thought tory is a Chad, why won't he go down with the ship?

>> No.15822345

>>15822311
There's a Long March 2 going up in two hours, a Soyuz launching on Friday, and the biggest space news right now is that ABL isn't as dead as they've seemed for the past ten months. /sfg/ doesn't do much or well when there's nothing going on.

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Rocket Lab projects Electron return to flight in fourth quarter, Rocket Lab expects to resume Electron launches before year-end after September failure
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https://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-projects-electron-return-to-flight-in-fourth-quarter/
> LAS VEGAS — Rocket Lab is preparing to return its Electron rocket to flight before the end of the year as it completes an investigation into a launch failure in September.
> In an Oct. 25 statement, the company said it received authorization from the Federal Aviation Administration to resume launches under its existing launch license from Launch Complex 1 in New Zealand.
> Those launches have been on hold since the failure of the most recent Electron launch Sept. 19. In that launch, the engine in the upper stage appeared to shut down moments after ignition, based on telemetry displayed during the launch webcast. The failure resulted in the loss of a Capella Space synthetic aperture radar imaging satellite.
> The authorization from the FAA does not mean the investigation is complete. Rocket Lab said in the statement that it was completing a “meticulous review” into the root cause of the failure. That review, the company said, should be done in the coming weeks, allowing Electron launches to resume before the end of the year.
--
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/25/rocket-lab-to-resume-electron-launches-after-september-failure.html
> Rocket Lab stock rose about 5% in after-hours trading from its close at $4.09 a share.
> The company expects its review “to be completed in the coming weeks.”
> Rocket Lab is scheduled to report third-quarter results after markets close Nov. 8.

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Space Force planning $8 billion satellite architecture for nuclear command and control
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https://spacenews.com/space-force-planning-8-billion-satellite-architecture-for-nuclear-command-and-control/
> WASHINGTON — The Space Force is gearing up for a major procurement of strategic communications satellites that provide nuclear-survivable communications for the U.S. military and national command authorities.
> The Space Systems Command expects to issue a request for proposals in early 2024 for the Evolved Strategic Satellite Communications System (ESS) constellation, a program estimated to be worth $8 billion.
> ESS will be a “survivable and jam-resistant satcom capability for the NC3 mission,” DeLaPena said last week at the AFCEA Space Industry Days conference in Los Angeles.
> NC3 is short for nuclear command, control and communications, a network intended to ensure that national command authorities can maintain secure control of strategic forces on land, at sea and in the air even during a nuclear war.

>> No.15822364

>>15822345
>Long March 2
Is that the one that leaves the core stage on a rapidly decaying orbit where it'll fall back in a week or so causing a brief rash of "chinese space junk threat!" clickbait articles?

>> No.15822368

>>15822346
rocket fags. I hate Peter beck.

>> No.15822372

>>15822341
>I thought tory is a Chad
You thought wrong

>> No.15822388

>>15822250
blackface

>> No.15822394

>>15822346
>Peter Beck is literally twomoreweeks posting before we can

>> No.15822408

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eLPcZ-2QsQ
China's launching another crew to their station so they're actually streaming this one.
T-60:00

>> No.15822427

>>15821488
why are you so mad?

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>>15822408
bottom section's open

>> No.15822453

>>15821909
>>15821917
I am confused as to why the strategy is to be appealing to be purchased, rather than to build a business that works.

This is perhaps another reason I am not a businessman.

>> No.15822458

>>15822453
It's a silicon valley business strategy. You create something not because it's any good, but because you can sell it to google or facebook after you drum up enough hype for it.

>> No.15822462

>>15822452
T-30:00

>> No.15822464

>>15822453
It's mainly because ULA's governance structure is stupid. They have to get the okay from both Boeing and Lockheed for any business decision. A sale would finally free them from having to convince two groups to let them do something.

>> No.15822465

>>15821917
I read "Rocket Launch" as "Rocket Lab" and ignored this post, but wtf they're actually contemplating ULA wtf is going on.

>> No.15822469

>>15822458
That does not seem like a sustainable business model when applied to this industry. Aerospace is not software, long-term thinking is somewhat mandatory.

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>>15822462
T-10:00

>> No.15822496

>They're showing the guys on the station waiting for them

Oh yeah, don't they arrive at the station like 20 minutes after launch? I remember when they put up one of the modules it was there almost instantly

>> No.15822498

>>15822496
I thought Russia had the fastest launch to approach to ISS a couple years ago and it still took like 8 hours or something?

>> No.15822501

LAUNCH

>> No.15822503

RIP villagers

>> No.15822506

>no telemetry
boooo

>> No.15822507

>>15822503
Be envious of the Chinese people that their government is so generous as to return the spent booster directly to the people

>> No.15822508

>>15822501
Another successful liftoff for Ariane 4/Soyuz

>> No.15822509

LIVE
https://youtu.be/lO0jDeOnTls

>> No.15822511

>>15822509
Max Qute

>> No.15822518

SECO

>> No.15822520
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>> No.15822523
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>>15822520
panels unfolded

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LM-2F's staging timing is wild

>> No.15822534
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>>15822523
helmet visors up

>> No.15822537

>>15822533
sovl

>> No.15822540

>>15822534
On their way to the tiangong barbecue

>> No.15822543

>>15822533
Kino Korolev cross

>> No.15822564

>>15821650
we gettin the first cripple in space
>According to reports, the legendary British astronaut will lead a four-person UK team to the International Space Station (ISS) sometime in the next few years.
>Major Peake – known as the 'first British spaceman' – is set to be joined by the world's first parastronaut, originally from Surrey, and two female astronauts.
>The quartet will spend up to two weeks on the orbiting lab to carry out scientific research and demonstrate new technologies before flying home.
>Peake, 51, famously spent six months on the ISS between 2015 and 2016, but his younger crewmates will be making their first trips into orbit.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12669875/Tim-Peake-end-retirement-just-9-MONTHS-lead-UKs-team-space-British-spaceman-tipped-crew-four-alongside-worlds-parastronaut-two-female-astronauts.html

>> No.15822566

SPACE SEX IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/10/20/1081882/can-humans-reproduce-in-space-this-startup-wants-to-find-out/
>Curious about the various ways that donated sperm can be used, Edelbroek, a Dutch entrepreneur, began to speculate on whether in vitro fertilization technology was possible beyond Earth—or could even be improved by the conditions found there. Could the weightlessness of space be better than a flat laboratory petri dish?

>> No.15822568

>>15822564
>parastronaut
astroplegic

>> No.15822582

>>15822189
why is jeff dating a female bogdanoff

>> No.15822589

>>15822566
We don't need women where we're going.

>> No.15822592
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>>15821580
>>15821584
stupid frogposters it's time to celebrate

>> No.15822594

>>15821597
how do you get the sodium metal (solid at spacecraft temps) into the engine

>> No.15822596

>>15822594
Ultra fine powder

>> No.15822599

>>15822582
>female
nope

>> No.15822602

>>15822594
Make it not spacecraft temp

>> No.15822606

>>15821597
Atomic Rockets?
https://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist.php#id--Electric

>> No.15822608

>>15822503
that only happens from the inland launch facility, which they aren't using for the space station
>>15822596
sodium will cold-weld itself back together
>>15822602
just storing it hot all the time?

>> No.15822610

>>15822608
>just storing it hot all the time?
Yeah

>> No.15822660
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>>15822239
Kill yourself dumb trend following cattle. TWO. MORE. WEEKS.

>> No.15822669

>>15822594
Heat it up. Your spacecraft has a nuclear reactor and hundreds of megawatts of waste heat to siphon.

>> No.15822673

>>15822608
>just storing it hot all the time?
you have millions of joules of heat per second to work with and you are operating with no convective cooling, keeping a big spherical tank of sodium molten at 100 celsius is trivial.

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>>15822582
he seems to have a thing for women with oddly chiseled faces
she kind of looks like his ex-wife, except more latina bimbo flavor

what I find funny is his ex-wife is dating somebody who looks a whole lot like Jeff (post his juicing saga), except taller and naturally buffer
really makes you think

>> No.15822729

Who drilled holes in Nauka's radiator?
https://www.space.com/russian-spacewalk-nauka-radiator-leak-october-2023

>> No.15822730

>>15822729
whats with russia and holes drilled into their shit. at this point it has to be malicious.

>> No.15822759

Two weeks, two weeks, evermore
The words that haunt me to the core
They promise me a glorious flight
But always keep it out of sight

A fortnight, half a month, they say
But still the launch is far away
They mock me with their false allure
And leave me in a hopeless blur

Two weeks, two weeks, evermore
The words that echo in my lore
They taunt me with their cruel delay
But never let me fly away

>> No.15822765
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Russian ICBM test from a few hours ago.
RS-24 Yars launched from Plesetsk Cosmodrome in Arkhangelsk Oblast.

Any guesses as to what went wrong?
>inb4 drilled holes

>> No.15822773

>>15822765
Imagine if it went off in their own airspace above a populated city, now that would be embarrassing. Well this is also pretty embarrassing, but still

>> No.15822780

>>15822765
Why would you test them? From a strategic point of view it doesn't matter whether your ICBMs actually work, only that the enemy thinks they work. Testing them publicly is shooting yourself in the foot.

>> No.15822782

>>15822729
The russians are always self sabotaging, the guy who got Korolev thrown in a gulag was also on his spaceflight team, and after he died that same guy destroyed the entire N1 program just to get back at him for being a dick while working together when there was good reason for it. Not to mention that guy sabotaging Korolev along every step of the way.

>> No.15822785

>>15822780
Posturing. They recently withdrew from the ban on nuclear testing. They are still desperately clinging on thei escalation of the red line.

>> No.15822787

>>15822785
All the old arms control/nuclear weapons treaties between the US and Russia obviously did not include China, which is free to do whatever it wants outside those restrictions. A trilateral treaty at a minimum is needed and good luck with that.

>> No.15822790

>>15822765
first stage failure of a solid rocket? probably something basic got overlooked.

>> No.15822793

>>15822765
There's some line going out from that plume right at the end, you can see it better in this
https://files.catbox.moe/zpalzh.mp4

>> No.15822794

>>15822790
It might be second stage/staging failure, that thing has 4 stages.

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>> No.15822805

Rockets in the night are quite pretty

>> No.15822809

>>15822805
You didnt see Terran-1 in person

>> No.15822810

>>15822805
Really pretty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x7ruR5Vygc

>> No.15822816

>>15822810
This doesnt hold a candle to Terran-1 I'm telling you the methalox makes such a big difference. Wait until the first Starship night launch comes around, even bigger contrails and a blue fire along with massive engines there will never be anything else like it.

>> No.15822819

https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/lanceurs-spatiaux-vers-un-divorce-a-l-italienne-entre-avio-et-arianespace-981514.html

Space launchers: towards an Italian-style divorce between Avio and Arianespace
The Italian government has asked the European Space Agency to withdraw the Vega family of launchers from Arianespace's commercial portfolio. This issue is on the agenda of the Seville space summit, scheduled for November 6 and 7.

Arianebros.....

>> No.15822824

>>15822819
eurobros... how could it get worse?

>> No.15822827

>>15822816
we've already seen the purple flames with night tests of Raptor but yeah I want to see Super Heavy

>> No.15822830

>>15822824
Oh man we so aren't ready for the Ariane 6 failure on maiden launch or the first operational one, it'slike 80% likely to happen kek

>> No.15822839

>>15822819
もう 終わり だ。

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Testing

>> No.15822849

>>15822819
>But there are signs that Ariane needs to reform. This company is a scandal. When are they going to understand that their company is not immortal, that the level of competence is exploding at European and world level? The management of this company oscillates between denial and sleep. They were laughing when Elon Musk arrived. He's made 63 launches in 9 months. The presentation of Vega's position is laughable. For the past 15 years, everyone has been asking Ariane to reform, and Ariane continues to evolve at the pace of a planned administration. Vega is right to draw the necessary conclusions. It tears my guts out to say this, but Ariane's forties and fifties today are not on the same level as the conquerors who preceded them. They're in a drunken boat and in formaldehyde. Need we remind you of the German successes in mini launchers in recent years? No, Vega's departure is not the will of a man. It's the consequence of Ariane's formalization. Today, Ariane should be stripped of its integrator role. It would be better to keep the assets as a test bed and launch 3 or 4 technology integration teams. The atmosphere at Ariane is incompatible with the state of the world.

>> No.15822851

>>15821250
>First flight 2020
What went wrong

>> No.15822864

What do you think will fail on Ariane 6

>> No.15822873

>europe
funny how europeans are flocking to axiom now that esa is kill

>> No.15822874

https://europeanspaceflight.substack.com/p/european-small-launch-companies-respond

If you want your daily cope dose

>> No.15822878

>>15822819
Ariane fucked up it long term strategy years ago. A6 was already a mere cost saving measure, and now it's late and won't be as cheap as claimed either

>> No.15822886

>>15822878
>your heavy launcher is so expensive you can only use it for double comsat launches and the once-in-a-decade deep space mission like JWST.
>decide to leave light and medium launch to Russians and Italians
It was over 20 years ago.

>> No.15822892

>>15822886
A5 flew science missions every other year at least.
Araine's reason for existing is guaranteed indigenous access, which A5 could fulfil itself. It then ended up being large to satisfy Hermes. Vega's case for existing was always much more ropey.

>> No.15822895

>>15822886
That's not exactly how it went however, Vega was originally an italian design but the french basically ended up taking over it. It's been a bit so my eesa lore isn't too fresh now

>> No.15822899

>>15822793
a chunk of burning propellent

>> No.15822905

>>15822851
And yet don't you dare criticise their timeliness chud, they are reliable unlike Muskrat with his outlandish claims which are never met.

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>> No.15822908

>>15822905
>spay sex launches
274
>BO launches
0, zero, oh, null, nil, noll, nolla, 零, 제로, нyлa, нyлeвoй, نكرة, शून्य

>> No.15822914

>>15822892
>A5 flew science missions every other year at least.
And for every A5 science mission there were two on russian launchers (Starsem-Soyuz, Soyuz-Kourou or Euroko-Rokot), Cluster failed on A5, so it went on Starsem-Soyuz, and then it continued.

The case for Vega was pretty clear, it started to appear inthe late 80s, when, Ariane 4 (Ariane 4 performances increase were mostly dictated by Arianespace, not by ESA) replaced older Ariane and was becoming inneficient to launch smaller european satellite (Ariane 40 had to be only partially fueled to reach orbit), and that was only planned to become worse with A5, this was when european smallsat launchers started to appear, with ASI/BPD's Scout 2 projects as the better funded one (and the only one that actually launched once). That case was well identified, which is why the german (Eurokot) and French (Starsem) jumped on the opportunity to commercialise Russian launchers.

>> No.15822933
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https://www.usinenouvelle.com/editorial/premier-allumage-reussi-pour-le-demonstrateur-du-module-reutilisable-susie-d-arianegroup.N2187048?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

A SUSIE scaled down demonstrator did its first ignition and control surfaces test

>> No.15822935

>>15822933
a fucking toy

>> No.15822937

>>15822842
stupid frogposter

>> No.15822939

>>15822933
What do people even learn from scaled mockups in the modern day?
You need all new components to put together a scaled mockup, and you wont gather any info you cant get in a simulation.

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>>15822874
European small launch companies respond (to the domination of SpaceX)
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> On 18 October, SpaceNews published an article that described how small launch companies are struggling to compete with SpaceX rideshare missions. I thought the article was poignant and insightful, but I was curious what European launch startups thought about the issue. The article included a brief comment from PLD Space and a comment from an Arianespace Vega business unit representative, and I'm not sure Vega fits into the small launch category.
> Latitude - Adeline Pitrois, Head of Sales
>“Rideshare missions and dedicated missions are two faces of the same coin: they’re complementary in the smallsat’s path to orbit. Rideshare missions could be an appropriate support to validate technology or for the proof of concept phase. Once the model is validated, they tend to transition to dedicated launches that will allow them to manage their own mission to drive their business and revenue generation. Our business model and customer success will be managed independently from SpaceX's strategy.”
> Orbex - Martin Coates, CEO
“In the enterprise IT world, there is the concept of 'Total Cost of Ownership,' which encourages executives to look beyond the top-line software or hardware costs and understand at a deeper level what other costs come with it. We need that same level of evolved thinking in the satellite launch market.
> Orbex has several launch contracts already signed, and we expect to secure more in the coming years. There is still a large backlog of small satellites waiting for launch, so the demand is very clearly still there, and it’s only going to increase over time.“

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Wen hop?

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>>15822951
> Pangea Aerospace - Adrià Argemí, CEO
>“SpaceX is disrupting the market with low prices and high offer volume. However, small/medium-class vehicles have coexisted and will coexist with Heavy and super-heavy vehicles. Both markets exist because they cover different needs. Rockets like the Electron (Rocketlab), with a much higher price per kg, will still have demand providing dedicated launch services for smaller payloads, which can be key for certain missions such as the ones related to defense or institutional payloads preferring local players.
> SmallSpark Space Systems - Joseph Ward, CEO
>Although not directly related to SpaceX rideshare mission pricing, I thought this response to my question made for an interesting addition to the overall picture.
>“As a business, we’ve all but moved away from launch for the foreseeable future - our focus is on developing core technologies and products to support more efficient participation in the cislunar economy. A lot of our tech has transferred over - but we felt the margins in launch were too small, even for our tech, the capex requirements were too great, and we would have to rely on endless investor capital to maintain the projected operations. “

>> No.15822961

>>15822955
the arguments summarized
Latitude: Rideshare will be just used initially, validated satellite businesses will want to use a dedicated launcher
Orbex: Total Cost of Ownership for launching with smallsats will somehow be smaller due to less wait time, shipping, not optimal orbit
HyImpulse: price is too one-dimensional there are other metrics (rattles 10 other metrics, the top ones which are price funnily enough)
Pangea Aerospace: small/medium-class vehicles have coexist and will coexit with Heavy and super-heavy vehicles because the markets cover different needs
HyPrSpace: the rideshare customers and microlaunch customers are different
B2Space: can't compete with cost, smallsat launchers should tailor their services for the customers specific need

> MaiaSpace, Isar Aerospace, and Rocket Factory Augsburg were asked to contribute but declined.

asking the customers:

>When it came to the all-important question of whether the company would pay more to fly aboard a dedicated mission, the answer was not in the short term.
>"At the development and funding stage that we are in, no, we wouldn't pay more for a more dedicated service. In the future, for final constellation deployment, we could evaluate it."
> Another SpaceX rideshare customer that chose to remain anonymous stated it plans to regularly utilize the service in the future. It identified price, launch opportunities, and reliability as key factors for continuing to launch with SpaceX.
> When asked whether they would consider a more expensive dedicated service, the company said it would. “Depending on the actual price difference and the specifics of the premium service, we would consider it.”
> The NRL spokesperson explained that the organization had selected the SpaceX rideshare mission due to reliability, the available launch window, and the target orbit.
>When asked if it would consider a more expensive dedicated service, the spokesperson explained that it would depend on the "mission objectives."

>> No.15822965

>>15822961
Funny when other launch providers can't even call themselves premium service when they are not as reliable as F9.

>> No.15822974
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4897ZjgHtw

>> No.15822982

All the Elon orbiters and tankwatchin tankwatchers all agree on one thing: LICENSE ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY OR TOMORROW

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>>15821069
Petition for Britain to convert the Falkland Islands into a spaceport

>> No.15822988
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>> No.15822989

>>15822982
post some links, I don't believe you

>> No.15822991

>>15822197
>>15822212
Forward facing nipples are repellent.

>> No.15822992

>>15822982
deluded, it'll be in ___ _____

>> No.15822994

>>15822991
where should nipples face?

>> No.15822997 [DELETED] 

>>15822994
They shouldn't face anything they should be internal depressed.

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>>15822987
>51°41′43″S

>> No.15823004

>>15822994
Slightly upwards

>> No.15823005

>>15822933
>The Susie project goes from paper to reality. After nine months of design, ArianeGroup ignited the first demonstrator of its Susie reusable launcher upper stage project at its site in Les Mureaux, near Paris, on Wednesday October 25. At around two meters high and weighing 100 kilograms, this reduced and simplified model of the future super-fairing will enable the Airbus-Safran joint venture to develop a controlled landing system.

>To develop its future landing system, ArianeGroup is using a scale model. Four thrusters and four stabilizing fins located at the base of the shuttle support a simple shell drilled with four holes to power an oxygen-kerosene engine. The mini-Susie will initially perform hops via manual control until, after several months' training, it reaches an altitude of 2,000 meters for an autopilot landing.
The development is scheduled to last until the second quarter of 2025, followed by the commissioning of Susie's intermediate model.

>Compatible with the next Ariane 64 launcher (the four-engine version of Ariane 6) for cargo and manned flight missions, the new nose cone should also be adaptable to subsequent-generation launchers. In terms of capacity, Susie will be available in two models: an intermediate and a large model will be able to carry, respectively, a maximum payload of 3 tonnes for a 10 m3 payload bay, and 7 tonnes for a 40 m3 payload bay. Both will also be able to accommodate up to five astronauts.

just some shitty hopper-investor/public-funding-bait

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>>15822989
https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1716985374633837050
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1717004768525066600
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1717152997711425539
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1717163473400926410
https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1717307383012057553
https://twitter.com/MarcusHouse/status/1717043302586077326
https://twitter.com/MarcusHouse/status/1717452707274105029
https://twitter.com/StarshipGazer/status/1717213320099565685
https://twitter.com/Space_Time3/status/1717205486888489291
https://twitter.com/FelixSchlang/status/1717208047377174874
https://twitter.com/whoisheartbreak/status/1717053745455149146
We are so fucking going it's not funny. The doomers are on suicide watch to the max

>> No.15823008

>>15823006
>Dutchspace
>what I am hearing is NET November 1
Next week, not tomorrow

>> No.15823009
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>>15823006
big yikes

>> No.15823016

>>15823006
Holy shit. Today is HERE
>jessie posted
HAPPENING

>> No.15823019

From SpaceX insider :

NET target for SpaceX is right now November 6th. License is close to being finished . No technical issues before launch. IF they have green light for that day it would be basically FTS, load and launch ,1,2 days max after

>> No.15823024

>>15823006
maybe, there are certainly indications about that

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>>15823019
WE GAAN

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>>15823003
Rocket Lab, New Zealand. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_Lab

>> No.15823033

>>15823006
kill yourself you animal

>> No.15823036
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>>15823025
gaanbroeders, het is eindelijk tijd

>> No.15823038

>>15822961
>coexist
Yeah they won't keep coexisting if for example the superheavy option costs less to buy outright than the small launcher.

>> No.15823043

>>15823038
you don't even need that necessarily, the total cost just has to be lower like they said and with spacetugs becoming a thing and with constant launches, there won't be anything left
companies might pay more for reliability, but that is not something smallsat launchers can say they have
they don't get customers because they are unproven and extremely expensive, so no launches, so no iteration on reliability
even with perfect reliability you would basically just be on par with F9 (and later Starship probably), with high enough cadence the smallsats won't have an advantage in launching quicker, with spacetugs they won't have an advantage with launching to specific orbits
there is no rational economic reason to use a smallsat launcher compared to high cadence starship + spacetug
well maybe some if you look at the hyimpulse list, these would be (late access to payload, level of service, payload access during preparation, launch site outside the US) but do people really care about that? just prepare the sat so you don't have to access it right before launch

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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/daily-telescope-snapshot-of-a-brilliant-green-comet-before-it-left-forever/

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>>15821806
ABL Space Systems prepares for second RS1 launch
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https://spacenews.com/abl-space-systems-prepares-for-second-rs1-launch/
> LAS VEGAS — ABL Space Systems is moving into the final phases of preparations for the second launch of its RS1 rocket after the company’s first launch failed in January.
> In an update posted Oct. 25, Harry O’Hanley, chief executive of ABL, said the company has completed a test of the RS1 rocket it called “dock dress” at the Port of Long Beach in California. That was a dress rehearsal of launch preparations involving the rocket and its GS0 ground support equipment.
> Both the RS1 rocket and GS0 system feature upgrades since the inaugural launch failed seconds after liftoff Jan. 10 from Kodiak Island, Alaska. The company said a week after the launch that the rocket lost power about 10 seconds after liftoff, shutting down engines and causing it to crash near the launch pad.
> At the time, ABL said the loss of power was linked to a fire in the rocket’s engine compartment, but didn’t say how the fire started. O’Hanley wrote that the leading theory that emerged from the company’s investigation is that the fire is linked to the design of the launch mount, a part of the GS0 system that raises the rocket to the vertical position and lowers it back to the horizontal.
> The launch mount was made to be as compact as possible to allow it and other GS0 elements to fit into shipping containers. “While this made transport simple, it resulted in the rocket being held close to the ground,” he wrote.

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15823058

Shenzhou-17 crew arrives at Tiangong space station
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https://spacenews.com/shenzhou-17-crew-arrives-at-tiangong-space-station/
> HELSINKI — Three new astronauts have arrived at China’s Tiangong space station following launch from the Gobi Desert late Wednesday.
> A Long March 2F rocket tipped with the Shenzhou-17 spacecraft lifted off from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in the Gobi Desert at 11:14 p.m. Eastern, Oct. 25 (0314 UTC, Oct. 26).
> Rendezvous and docking at Tiangong’s forward docking port was completed 6.5 hours later, at 5:46 a.m. Oct. 26, China’s human spaceflight agency confirmed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_w6wLZy1x4

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China Opens Tiangong’s Doors to Foreign Visitors
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https://payloadspace.com/china-opens-tiangongs-doors-to-foreign-visitors/
> A little over two years after China launched the core module for Tiangong, China’s national space station is ready and willing to host astronauts from other countries, a representative from the China Manned Space Agency announced Wednesday. The invitation comes after five crews of Chinese taikonauts have already made the orbiting lab their home away from home.
> “We extend an invitation to the world and welcome all countries and regions committed to the peaceful use of outer space to cooperate with us and participate in the Chinese space station missions,” Lin Xiqiang, deputy director of CMSA, said at a press conference, according to state media agency Xinhua.

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https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1717427099760247008

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https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1717380072565534735

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https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1717443797712551966

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>>15823064

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>>15823066

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>>15823068

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>>15821643
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1717473085857874029

weird that nobody commented on this, I think I forgot with all the shitposting
but I think what might actually happen is there will be SpaceX and then multiple private Chinese companies in number 2, 3 etc, but I guess it might not be possible for them to offer services in the west? so they won't really be competitors to american or european launchers/smallsat launchers, though there might be a market outside both
so an internal US market, an internal EU market, an internal Chinese market, an internal Indian market SpaceX and some Chinese companies competing for launches in the rest of the world (that market might be very tiny though)

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>>15823076
uhh west bros? https://www.space.com/china-space-plane-lands-may-2023

>> No.15823096

>>15823091
Aww they have their own X-37b now

>> No.15823105

>>15823091
the heck is it doing up there

>> No.15823109

>>15823105
nothing

>> No.15823115

>>15823109
just like x-37b :)

>> No.15823130

>>15822765
Russia is such a joke at this point.

>> No.15823133

>>15822780
to show the enemy that the rockets do in fact work? Anyway this test shows that thunderf00t was right about the Russian nuclear arsenal. One of his bolder predictions

>> No.15823135

>>15823019
I TOLD YOU GUYS

>> No.15823140

>>15823133
So we should just go ahead and nuke Russia now, right?

>> No.15823143

>>15823133
my point was that if your icbm's reliably work you're wasting your money, you only need to convince the enemy that there's a good chance of them working. It would've been better to make it a complete mystery than risk embarrassment, as seen here.

>> No.15823147

>>15823143
this failure does not mean they don't work
even if only 10% worked, it would still be a deterrant

>> No.15823181

>>15823019
Source?
>none I made if up.
Yeah okay two more weeks.

>> No.15823187

>>15823135
>I TOLD YOU GUYS
Yeah why dont you tell me where he pulled this from.
>his ass..?
Two more weeks then

>> No.15823202

>>15823187
ITS ON THE FAA WEBSITE. CHECK.

>> No.15823216
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15823216

Updated statement from the FWS regarding the Starship status:

- On Oct. 19, FWS reinitiated consultation with the FAA about the Endangered Species Act.
- While the FWS has 135 days to issue an amended opinion, they do not expect to take the full time.

>> No.15823220

>>15823216
I fucking told you they were going to trigger something that gave them another 135 days

>> No.15823224

>>15823216
same old bureucrat speak

>> No.15823229

>>15821354
gay retard seeks attention online
sad
many such cases

>> No.15823231

>>15823224
shut the fuck up. how about you write it then?. oh wait, youre unemployed.

>> No.15823235

>>15823229
A company that does machining for spacex got hacked and now the data is being ransomed

>> No.15823238

>>15823235
They got like 2tb of cad and other files too
Wonder if they had anything spicy like injectors or pumps

>> No.15823241

>>15823231
no new information there

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15823243

>>15823238
>>>/g/96907513

oh

>> No.15823244

NASA is off topic in this thread.

>> No.15823245
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15823245

>>15823231
>t.
What have you done go get a job in the spaceflight industry then?

>> No.15823246

>>15821604
why wait?

>> No.15823248

>>15823202
No license and no link = fake and gay

>> No.15823251

>>15823216
can someone translate this

>> No.15823252
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>>15823246
Two more weeks

>> No.15823254

>>15823251
Two more weeks

>> No.15823255

>>15823251
False hope two more weeks. Theres your translation.

>> No.15823256

>>15823243
Some IT department is having a really bad week.

>> No.15823263

>>15823251
> we re-started the consultation with FAA on the 19th of October, this consultation is allowed to take up to 135 days but we don't expect it to take so long
> explaining why this consultation is needed
> explaining the specific issue that requires consultation (water deluge system)

>> No.15823265

>>15823243
>>15823256
this happened a while ago. spacex just ignored them and didn't pay shit.

>> No.15823266

>>15823263
Learn to greentext dumb ass, putting a space after every meme arrow is stupid.

>> No.15823270

>>15823266
I will greentext the way I please but you are free to continue to cry about it

>> No.15823278

>>15823147
Would it though?
That wouldn't deter me. Those are winnable apocalypse trades.

>> No.15823285

>>15822965
You pay more for the thrill of knowing your payload could explode at any moment, chud

>> No.15823289

>>15823263
twist their nipples off

>> No.15823290
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15823290

Destack underway.

>> No.15823292

>>15823290
FTS TIME
FTS TIME
FTS TIME
THE PROPHECY IS BEING FULFILLED
THE DOOMERS ARE REDUCED TO ASH

>> No.15823294

>>15823290
FLIGHT RECORDER TIME
FLIGHT RECORDER TIME
FLIGHT RECORDER TIME
THE PROPHECY IS BEING FULFILLED
THE DOOMERS ARE REDUCED TO ASH

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>>15823294
>>15823292
Yeah two more weeks, werebacksissy. Falcon 9 launch cadence, history repeats itself. ItsoverGODS always win

>> No.15823300

>>15823298
>10,000 tons per year in 2033
That's still a win, doomer

>> No.15823301

>>15823300
im cooming

>> No.15823302

>>15823300
No Starship launch until 2025, I agree it will dominate the market easily but regulations BTFO your expected date.

>> No.15823304 [DELETED] 

>>15823298
you're a bigger faggot than even me (and i wear pink dresses)
falcon 9 didn't have a second rocket sitting out on the launch pad for an entire year with 3 more assembled awaiting only regulatory approval

>> No.15823305

>>15823302
2024*

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>>15823304

>> No.15823310

>>15823304
Kys

>> No.15823312
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>>15823290
You put the rocket on and you take the rocket off
You put the rocket on and you take the rocket off
You put the rocket on and you take the rocket off
You put the rocket on and you take the rocket off...

>> No.15823311 [DELETED] 

>>15823308
>>15823310
what's wrong with crossdressing in your free time?
obviously never EVER EVER EEEEEVER going outside like that

>> No.15823313
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>>15823304
And this proves werebackgroids are trannies, vindicated. No launch until 2024 pack it up faggots.

>> No.15823315

bros... I'm suffering Starship withdrawal

>> No.15823316

>>15823311
YWNBAW. >>>/lgbt/ go back.

>> No.15823318

>>15823003
>>15822987
Ascension Island would be a much better prospect. 8 deg south, middle of the Atlantic, and few people have heard about it. It is fucking tiny.

>> No.15823319 [DELETED] 

>>15823316
i agree, go back >>>/v/

>> No.15823325

lol, Italy wants Avio to split from Arianespace

https://europeanspaceflight.com/avio-just-needs-some-space-from-arianespace/

>> No.15823326 [DELETED] 

>>15823313
not a tranny and never will be (thank the lord)
just another anon with a degenerate fetish, beats liking feet and children

>> No.15823328

>>15823325
Let me guess
Someone at Ariane told Avio to keep making SRBs forever and they took that personally, especially after they just test fired the new liquid upper stage for Vega

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>>15823312

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>>15823326
Youre still a faggot and thats part of the alphabet, youre getting the airlock.

>> No.15823334 [DELETED] 

>>15823330
no pls
i am a healthy faggot* and keep my shit to my bedroom
* i dont like men

>> No.15823336

>>15823334
>>15823330
>>15823326
Shut the fuck up, goddamn

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>>15823336
stand there for 32 minutes please

>> No.15823343

>>15823302
2023

>> No.15823344

>>15823298
>that fake graph
Uhm, falcon 9 cant be reused sweaty...

>> No.15823346

WE'RE BACK

>> No.15823351
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15823351

ITS OVER

>> No.15823353

DESTACKING

>> No.15823361

https://youtu.be/Wsl3NBP-ui4?si=Ho7mRppu11VYD4sp

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>> No.15823381

I am sure Biden intervened to delay the Starship launch and I'm glad he did it.

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>>15823381
False flagging the itsover camp

>> No.15823393

ITS NOT FUCKING OVER. MEDIAN FORMAL CONSULTATION TIME IS 62 DAYS FUCKERS WE GOT 73 DAYS FROM OCTOBER 19TH TO END OF THE YEAR. ITS NOT FUCKING OVER UNTIL I SAY ITS OVER.

>> No.15823409

>>15823393
How do we increase Europe's energy independence?

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>>15823337
ftfy

>> No.15823424

>>15823251
It says that the true future of mankind requires something to be done about environmentalists and all other obstructionists and parasites first.

Surprisingly frank coming from a government agency.

>> No.15823427

>>15823311
Hush. Buy rope now.

>> No.15823443 [DELETED] 

>>15823427
just because of a harmless fetish?
no, i don't think i will

>> No.15823454

>>15823443
The longer you wait the worse it will get before you eventually do :^)

>> No.15823457

>"We have to uh, investigate the environmental consequences of the deluge"
Faggotry and Wet Sand
Have they ever heard of rain?

>> No.15823460 [DELETED] 

>>15823454
nah im fine with who i am :^)
i dont want to be a w*man
i just get off to wearing some items of clothing

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>>15823413
Thanks

>> No.15823462

enjoy vacation off topic degenerate freak

>> No.15823468

why is berger posting daily astronomy pics

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>>15823462
>implying he isn't a degenerate freak himself

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What’s the TLDR of berger’s ULA article

>> No.15823477

>>15823443
Considering you admit it's a fetish and aren't like those dude that think they actually are woman.

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15823479

Anyone know where to pirate Nebula content? He's having an interview with Relativity Space, haven't known of many in-depth updates from Relativity aside from it recently.

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>>15823462
Helping you buy xer that two week ticket off this board. Trannies and coomers will not be allowed in space.

>> No.15823484

>>15823468
easy article spam, have to keep people engaged for those ad bucks

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>>15821917
>>15821909
CEO of rocket-maker ULA makes a sales pitch—for the whole company
--
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/ceo-of-rocket-maker-ula-makes-a-sales-pitch-for-the-whole-company/
> It sure sounds like United Launch Alliance is up for sale. Tory Bruno, the rocket builder's CEO, said this week that anyone who purchased ULA would reap the rewards of the company's "transformation" over the last few years, a course change primarily driven by geopolitics and the competitive threat of SpaceX.
> Ars first reported the possibility of a ULA sale in March. At that time, sources said the deal was expected to be closed by the end of this year. It's unclear whether delays in the first Vulcan rocket launch, seen as a critical moment for ULA's future, might have impacted this timeline.
> Bruno's statement was the first time ULA has seemed to confirm it is up for sale.
> ULA was established in 2006 through a merger of Boeing's Delta rocket program and Lockheed Martin's Atlas launcher family. Since then, ULA has been a profitable enterprise for both aerospace giants, thanks to a steady diet of lucrative sole-source military launch contracts and an approximately $1 billion annual subsidy from the US Department of Defense to maintain "launch readiness."
> With SpaceX now certified to launch US military satellites, the days of sole-source contracting are over, and the Defense Department says it is committed to competition in the launch market. The Pentagon has phased out the subsidy, which it said was needed to ensure ULA's workforce and infrastructure were available to assure access to space for military payloads.
> Sources have said ULA and its corporate owners have already talked with prospective buyers. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the sources said a sticking point has been finding a buyer who will agree to pay the owners something close to the roughly $5 billion valuation they have placed on ULA.

>> No.15823490

>>15823489
> Lockheed Martin, already a part-owner of United Launch Alliance, appears to be the leading candidate to take full control of the rocket company. Boeing is looking to recover from sustained financial losses, while Lockheed Martin is on firmer footing, forecasting more than $8.4 billion in profits for this year. Let's not forget that Lockheed Martin developed the Atlas V rocket, the more successful of ULA's two legacy launch vehicle families in terms of price and launch cadence.
>Amazon is another possibility. Purchasing ULA would give Amazon ownership of all the critical segments of the supply chain needed to deploy the Kuiper broadband network, akin to SpaceX's control of the Starlink constellation. Amazon is already building its own satellites for Kuiper, and if it bought ULA, it could launch them itself. This is surely an attractive proposition for Amazon that could lead to lower costs and schedule priority on the Vulcan launch manifest.
>Jeff Bezos's space company, Blue Origin, might also be in the running. Blue Origin supplies BE-4 engines for ULA's Vulcan rocket, but is also developing its own heavy-lift rocket, the New Glenn, and has a strategic road map that differs from that of ULA, with a greater emphasis on booster reusability.
>Two other ULA suppliers, Northrop Grumman and L3Harris, could also be interested. There's also a possibility that a private equity firm could swoop in and buy the company to gain a foothold in the space industry.

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>>15822819
>>15823325
Avio Just Needs Some Space from Arianespace
--
https://europeanspaceflight.com/avio-just-needs-some-space-from-arianespace/
> Italian rocket builders Avio have asked the European Space Agency to allow it to split from Arianespace and independently market its Vega launch vehicles.
> The request was first reported by La Tribune. The request, which is backed by the Italian government, will be on the agenda at the ESA Space Summit in Seville, Spain, on 6 and 7 November. Although the topic is expected to be discussed at the summit, it will likely only be the first step, with a decision on the split to follow at a later date.
> This request is not all that surprising. Avio, with support from the Italian government, has been actively building its future launch business outside the confines of ESA and Arianespace.
> In June 2022, Avio announced that it had received €340 million from the Italian government to develop a new methalox first stage engine and a demonstrator of a new partially reusable launch vehicle.
> During an interview in July 2023, Avio CEO Giulio Ranzo told Wired that the reusable demonstrator would be a prelude to an entirely new product line for the company.
> In July 2022, the French Space Agency CNES announced that it had pre-selected Avio, along with six other launch companies, to utilize a new commercial launch facility being built on the grounds of the old Diamant launch complex at the Guiana Space Centre. At the time, it was largely unclear what the company planned to use the facility for, considering that it already had launch facilities for both Vega and Vega-C.
>When the two announcements are examined together, Avio has positioned itself outside the control of ESA and Arianespace with a new launch facility and a new launch vehicle.

>> No.15823496

>>15823328
they want to develop a partially reusable launch vehicle based on a first stage methalox engine, which would probably compete with ariane 6

>> No.15823504

>Bresil, Colombia, Congo, Ecuador, Indonesia, Kenya, Uganda, Zaire
>The geostationary orbit is a circular orbit on the Equatorial plane in which the period of sideral revolution of the satellite is equal to the period of sideral rotation of the Earth and the satellite moves in the same direction of the Earth's rotation. When a satellite describes this particular orbit, it is said to be geostationary; such a satellite appears to be stationary in the sky, when viewed from the earth, and is fixed on the zenith of a given point of the Equator, whose longitude is by definition that of the satellite.
>This orbit is located at an approximate distance of 35,871 Kmts. over the Earth's Equator.
>In qualifying this orbit as a natural resource, equatorial states reaffirm "the right of the peoples and of nations to permanent sovereignty over their wealth and natural resources that must be exercised in the interest of their national development and of the welfare of the people of the nation concerned," as it is set forth in Resolution 2692 (XXV) of the United Nations General Assembly entitled "permanent sovereignty over the natural resources of developing countries and expansion of internal accumulation sources for economic developments".
>Consequently, the above-mentioned provisions lead the equatorial states to affirm that the synchronous geostationary orbit, being a natural resource, is under the sovereignty of the equatorial states.
>SIGNED DECEMBER 3, 1976

what do you think /sfg/? Are they correct?

>> No.15823505

>>15823484
i just read the first few comments of each article then dip

>> No.15823511

>>15823504
if they can't project power there, nobody will give a shit
so no, they don't in fact control it

>> No.15823512

>>15823504
They are just as correct as the dudes who sell land on the moon or the naming rights to stars and asteroids

Good luck enforcing it. Personally I think airspace ends at the Karman Line by definition so they can take a hike

>> No.15823519
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>>15823512
You're just mad I own Tranquility Base and the 50,000 acres surrounding it poorfag

>> No.15823533

>>15823457
They can investigate rain after. Stop your whataboutism

>> No.15823537
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15823537

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_goodwill_messages
What a list of chancers, parasites and psychopaths lmao. Will Artemis be doing something similar?

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>Robert Card, the Maine mass shooter who is still at-large, liked Twitter posts pushing right-wing conspiracies from many of Elon Musk’s favorite accounts.
https://nitter.net/nathanTbernard/status/1717539046153388488
ARREST MUSK NOW!!

>> No.15823547

>>15823546
I love this guilt by association shit, it's the dumbest tactic out there but it doesn't stop them from using it

>> No.15823551

>>15823546
reminder, likes & retweets =/= endorsement

>> No.15823558

>>15823489
Holy shit. If Vulcan fails on its maiden launch, it’s probably over for the company. It will be a complete deal killer for anyone willing to invest

>> No.15823562

>>15823546
felongated huskrat must pay for his crimes of not supporting my group

>> No.15823572

>>15823546
Fake and gay

>> No.15823589
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15823589

US Space Force's 1st official painting shows military space plane intercepting adversary satellite
>Space Operations Command (SpOC), which provides orbital warfare and intelligence capabilities to the U.S. Space Force, unveiled the painting during a ceremony at Peterson Space Force Base in Colorado on Oct. 20.
>The artwork depicts a futuristic U.S. Space vehicle intercepting an adversary satellite, who in turn is positioning to disable a friendly satellite.
https://www.spaceforce.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/3566022/space-operations-command-reveals-futuristic-official-painting/
https://www.space.com/space-force-painting-plane-intercepting-satellite

i knew they were interested in using x-37b to fight satellites. i can imagine them launched in numbers to forcefully deorbit enemy satellites.

>> No.15823590
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>>15823589

>> No.15823592

>>15823589
1970s USSR space program currently shitting itself!

>> No.15823595
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15823595

fuck around, find out

>> No.15823597
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15823597

It's over, ISRO won.

>> No.15823598

>>15823589
spaceplane worship in action.
Truly profane.

>> No.15823601

>>15823589
>US Space Force's 1st official painting
Is this the Paint Force? The fuck are they doing wasting time on office decoration?

>> No.15823616

>>15823489
1 billion a year? So spacex is only getting 3 years of ULA gibs to make the most revolutionary spacecraft ever?

>> No.15823621

>>15823616
apparently

>> No.15823624

>>15823621
>>15823616
I also saw in some article a few days ago that the military in general is using like 150bil per year for research projects and the vast majority never reach the level of actual use

>> No.15823666

>>15823489
>Not a berger article
qrd on the new guy?

>> No.15823671

>>15823666
not that new, his articles tend to drag on a bit longer, don't know anything more about him

>> No.15823675
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15823675

Are the Russians naturally incompetent?

>> No.15823686

>>15823675
LMAOOO

>> No.15823695

>>15823597
I like India. They're plucky. I also like that they're launching a rocket that reminds me of the Titan IV but smol.

>> No.15823700
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15823700

>>15823427
>>15823454
>>15823477
GEEEEEEEEEG THE CLOSETTED TRANNY GOT BANNED. THE DAY OF THE AIRLOCK HAS COMMENCED

>> No.15823708

>>15823700
That Starship is outdated

>> No.15823710

>>15823695
You like India until India is outside your door, and now you are the stranger living in Delhi

>> No.15823711
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15823711

Looks like Rocket Lab, ABL, Astra, Vaya and Phantom space plan to launch from Australia. Biden just signed some agreement for U.S. companies to launch from Arnhem
https://www.satcom.digital/news/ela-welcomes-announcement-of-tsa-signing-providing-green-light-for-us-space-launches-from-arnhem-space-centre

> The United States and Australia have announced that they intend to sign a Technology Safeguards Agreement (TSA) that provides the legal and technical framework for U.S. commercial space launch vehicles to launch from Australia. The agreement will protect sensitive U.S. launch technology and data while in Australia and creates the potential for new space-related commercial opportunities between the two countries.

> This announcement overnight by President Biden and Prime Minister Albanese means that ELA can now move ahead to finalise multiple draft contracts we have negotiated with several U.S. launchers and we are thrilled that the two governments have announced this landmark agreement, giving us the green light to finalise our contract with U.S. rocket manufacturers,” said Mr Jones.

>> No.15823712

>>15823708
ok then send an updated starship with an openned payload door. didnt think so

>> No.15823714

>>15823712
SpaceX posted the official render.

>> No.15823717

>>15823711
Is that ABL's actual livery? Awesome

>> No.15823726

>>15823714
>SpaceX posted the official render.
POST. THE. RENDER. THEN.

>> No.15823731

Who thinks Starship makes it to stage separation?

>> No.15823733

>>15823711
I guess Rocket Lab really wants to get away from the weirdos running New Zealand.

>> No.15823734

>>15823726
https://youtu.be/h6oZT-giy0A

>> No.15823738

>>15823711
On the other hand, that graphic shows Astra's Rocket 4, so it's probably heavy on the aspirational side of things.

>> No.15823741

>>15823733
Tell me about it, apparently they're building spaceplanes down there

>> No.15823750

>>15823731
yes

>> No.15823759

It feels like it's been weeks since last Starlink launch

>> No.15823764

>>15823711
funny how nobody seems to be asking spacex to launch from their countries

>> No.15823769
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>> No.15823780
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15823780

>>15823711
>Phantom space

>> No.15823784
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15823784

>>15823589
>>15823590
Black Horse bros...

>> No.15823789

>>15823780
Ha I still remember the game console
PHANTOM LIVES
I BELIEVE

>> No.15823826

>>15823558
Vulcan failing because of a BE-4 shitting itself midflight would be the funniest outcome.

>> No.15823829

>>15823731
Last time it almost did and would have if the engine bay fires didn't burn out the avionics.

>> No.15823846

>>15823826
It's always going to be a second stage problem. First stage issues are too easy to test on the ground, and Centaur V doesn't have nearly as much heritage from the Centaur III as Tory likes to imply.

>> No.15823848

>>15823243
Elon should send kill-teams and just extrajudicially execute them

>> No.15823860

>>15823826
I agree

>> No.15823875

>>15823187
>>15823181
>Source my ass
>blah blah blah

u/space_rocket_builder (this guy ALWAYS gets it right)

"November 6 is the NET at SpaceX, we are hoping that the regulatory side is on its final leg. Did hear positive news on the anticipated schedule for completion. No concerns on the technical readiness. Do have a few items as final launch preps but no concern for meeting the NET."

https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/173i871/comment/k6gbpaa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

>> No.15823882

>>15823846
Did they ever get that ICE engine that run on boiloff gases to work? That was one of the cooler things about ACES

>> No.15823905

>>15823875
Kys redditard go back

>> No.15823922

>>15823905
I dont care . The guy is reliable , thats what it matters

>> No.15823926

>>15823922
Ok, now go back

>> No.15823938

>>15823922
when has he been right before?

>> No.15823947

nobody feed the troll

>> No.15823966
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15823966

Random thoughts of a bygone era:
• Autistic Roblox NASA “we have the datur” videos
• Viv. The weird german (?) trans (???) chick who Elon used to follow and reply to all the time. No longer has a digital footprint. I think she works for tesla now?
• Drunk OmegA anon
• The weird, brief period of absolutely mental ARCA spamming. It was annoying as shit
• Tim Dodd’s google docs that was taken over

>> No.15823967

>>15823922
you believe psychics too? dumbass

>> No.15823968

>>15823966
> Viv. The weird german (?) trans (???) chick who Elon used to follow and reply to all the time. No longer has a digital footprint. I think she works for tesla now?
I think she works for X, at least her X account has that
https://twitter.com/battleangelviv
apparently both for X and Tesla, keeps blogposting about bikes

>> No.15823972

>>15823938
>>15823922
not saying this to shit on reddit as I don't care where the information comes from, as long as its accurate
reddit being shit is kind of a given

>> No.15823974

>>15823966
>Tim Dodd’s google docs that was taken over

This was topkek

>> No.15823973

>>15823968
didn’t realize she was still around. Used to be Musk’s unofficial right hand man; at least in cyberspace.

>> No.15823985

>>15823974
I predict Timm Dodd will break down on the dear moon mission and freak out trying to depress the cabin so they will have to tie him up

>> No.15823990
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15823990

>>15823985
kek

>> No.15823993

>>15823966
I miss those gypsy bastards

>> No.15823994

>>15823666
He was with Spaceflight Now, IIRC their lead guy, until he joined Ars. He's no Berger, but I'm satisfied with him. His only recent work that comes to mind was his "I can't make this shit up" interview with Chris Kemp.

>> No.15824005

>>15823994
NTA but I didn’t realize this. This is interesting, thanks

>> No.15824011

>>15823994
Shut up bro, can you just shut the fuck up. Im fed up with your spam in this thread.

>> No.15824019

>>15824011
meds

>> No.15824029

>>15824011
meds now and leave newsanon alone newfag

>> No.15824035

>>15823966
Don't forget Astrabro and our very own 4ASS rocket engineer

>> No.15824041
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15824041

>>15824011
Kill yourself dumb fuck

>> No.15824060

>>15824011
obvious newfag

>> No.15824077

>>15823489
>giving a company 1b/y for 10-15 years
>company is now worth 5b

gee that doesn't sound like a good investment

>> No.15824078

>>15823966
>that time the collagefag had a breakdown over the rocket equation

>> No.15824098
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15824098

https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2023/10/25/to-build-an-interstellar-radio-bridge/

>Suppose we achieve the technologies needed to send humans to Alpha Centauri. We have there in the form of Centauri A a G-class star much like the Sun (although we could also use the K-class star Centauri B). Both of these stars have their own distance from which gravitational lensing occurs, Align your spacecraft properly to look back towards the Earth from Centauri A and you can now connect to the ‘relay’ at the lensing distance from the Sun. You’ve drastically changed the communications picture by using lensing in both directions.

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>>15824098
>This raises the eyebrows. Bit Error Rate expresses the quality of the signal, being the number of erroneous bits received divided by the total number of bits transmitted. Using a spacecraft at the solar gravitational lens distance from the Sun talking to one on the other side of Centauri A (alignment, of course, is critical here), we have a signal so strong that we have to go over 9 light years out before it begins to degrade. A radio bridge like this would allow communications with a colony at Alpha Centauri using power levels and infrastructure we have in place today.

>> No.15824135

>>15824122
Super deep space network

>> No.15824146
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>>15824135
>Maccone told the audience at Montreal that in terms of channel capacity (as defined by Shannon information theory), the Sun used as a gravitational lens allows 190 gigabits per second in a radio bridge to Centauri A as opposed to the paltry 15.3 kilobits per second available without lensing.

>> No.15824151

>>15823058
That was fast right? Docking within 24 hours.

>> No.15824160

>>15824151
this is what happens when you build a space station on an inclination suited to only your own country instead of compromising

>> No.15824164

>>15823966
Don't think you're safe from ARCA spamming just yet

>> No.15824163

>>15824151
It was under seven hours, wasn't it? What was that rapid Russian record set a year or so back?

>> No.15824167

>>15824098
>>15824146
could you put an antenna at exactly the right spot on a planet's surface to do this on a smaller scale

>> No.15824168

>>15824163
3 hours 3 minutes unless they've broken the record since 2020
https://www.space.com/soyuz-makes-fastest-space-station-crew-flight-record

>> No.15824170

>>15823974
QRD?

>> No.15824173

>>15824078
kek

>> No.15824185

>>15824151
>>15824160
>>15824163
>>15824168
What is SpaceX dragon's record?

>> No.15824195

https://www.youtube.com/live/CeA3GMDMwWE
epic pod

>> No.15824201

https://youtu.be/OW-9yd8obXU
FINALLY NASA ANNOUNCE LAUNCH DATE FOR NASA STARSHIP X ROCKET

>> No.15824204

>>15824201
Kill yourself clickbait ai sloptard

>> No.15824206

>>15824204
>FINALLY NASA ANNOUNCE LAUNCH DATE FOR NASFINALLY NASA ANNOUNCE LAUNCH DATE FOR NASA STARSHIP X ROCKETA STARSHIFINALLY NASA ANNOUNCE LAUNCH DATE FOR NASA STARSHIP X ROCKETP X ROCKET
FINALLY NASA ANNOUNCE LAUNCH DATE FOR NASA STARSHIP X ROCKET
hold on it didnt work
putting the chair back in place

>> No.15824218

>>15824204
huh?

>> No.15824223

>>15824204
I listened to the video and its actually a real person surprisingly and doesn't sound like a poo or ESL

>> No.15824224

stage it

>> No.15824228

>>15823973
I think for a (brief?) while she may have been his actual irl assistant or something

>> No.15824229

>>15824223
nvm im just too fucking drunk its definitely ai

>> No.15824230
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15824230

>>15824077
>giving a company 1b/y for 10 years
>company still hasn't launched a rocket to orbit

>> No.15824231 [DELETED] 

>>15823968
ARCAchads, we will rise again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1WRVglQMs

>> No.15824236

>>15824230
worked well as an ego boost. got to meet his heroes and larp a bit

>> No.15824241

>>15824224
do it yourself or I'll stage with AI krystal pics

>> No.15824250
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STAGE SEPARATION
>>15824246
>>15824246
>>15824246
>>15824246
>>15824246

>> No.15824264

>>15824241
can you post some anyway?

>> No.15824270

>>15824167
Idk planetary lenses are orders of magnitude away
and the ring effect might be too small compared to the stars own emissions

>> No.15824541

>>15824170
Estronaut has his patrons proofread, correct mistakes and edit his script on google docs before he makes the final video
some anon leaked the link and we griefed it it with memes and shit

>> No.15824546

>>15824541
So it's just open for anyone to edit? Of course some dumb kid would eventually vandalize that.
Information security is great nowadays but people lack common sense to use it.