/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15806765]

Can Christianity save science from the unreprodu cible careerist mess it's become?

The reason we no longer hold a candle to Newton, Leiniz, Gauss is because if our lack in faith. The great men that established our modern field did so because they wanted to understand God's creation. Today imposters are motivated by money, power and position. Therefore they willing to cheat to succeed and a continent sized mountain of irreproducible papers is the result.

[Anonymous No.15806776]

you can discuss politics on >>>/pol/ and post your fantasies on >>>/x/

[Anonymous No.15806782]

>>15806776
This is not /pol/itical post dumbfuck.

This is about pedagogy in /sci/ence. In particular the failure of trimming down on the philosophical and theological motivations that developed our field since the introduction of mass education which has been a disaster for our discipline.

[Anonymous No.15806788]

>>15806782
religion is politics and is automatically discarded. you try to infiltrate every field with your bullshit politics.

[Anonymous No.15806789]

>>15806788
>religion is politics
No it isn't and this is not a religious thread, idiot.
>automatically discarded.
This does sound like a religious sentiment, however.
> you try to infiltrate every field with your bullshit politics.
Are you retarded? Science is a branch natural philosophy which grew out Christian universties.

The new ideas infiltrating it are only a generation or so old. Essentially as soon as the reproducibility crisis started and it became filled with dogmatic idiots with a weak understanding of the history of the field like you.

[Anonymous No.15806792]

>>15806789
>Are you retarded? Science is a branch natural philosophy which grew out Christian universties.
science is the antithesis and arch-enemy of religion because it keeps proving your shit story is just a primitive political mess and nothing else. you want to stay close and maybe have a say in whatever will disprove your bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15806795]

>>15806788
nta but the greatest scientists were those that saw revealing the mysteries of the universe as divine and sought only truth, they felt that any lies or fakery were heresy, that christianity was a form of truth worship.

Later this pure natural science was taken over by those who saw it as a way to control people or gain status and wealth.

People and their personal philosophies matter in how they present their data and what they do to get it because otherwise we end up with charlatans running the field

[Anonymous No.15806797]

>>15806792 me
you have no choice but to suck science's cock, like a good little bitch, in the hopes you maybe could find a way to still remain relevant. no scientist is coming to you but you stalk science everywhere you get the chance. nobody wants you

[Anonymous No.15806798]

>>15806795
>mysteries of the universe as divine and sought only truth
listen dipshit, I'm not talking about spirituality. you do not own that either, weirdly enough. you failed at both science and spirituality.

[Anonymous No.15806799]

>>15806792
Science is a Christian discipline, maybe Jewish too as they have contributed a lot since Christians created it. I don't know what you're on about. You appear to both anti-Science and anti-Christian as you cannot even form coherent thoughts without anger so you are obviously not professionally employed in a scientific discipline.

[Anonymous No.15806800]

>>15806798
what morals and philosophies drive you?

[Anonymous No.15806801]

>>15806795
>nta but the greatest scientists were those that saw revealing the mysteries of the universe as divine and sought only truth, they felt that any lies or fakery were heresy
Precisely. We need to return to this if we want to save Science. It will become increasingly worthless and dogma driven if we don't reinforce its foundations.

[Anonymous No.15806803]

>>15806799
>listen buddy, science says what we want because we invented it, get it?
you're insane and you didn't invent shit. you mooched off everything, and started science by killing scientists, and only allowing those pledging allegiance to your bullshit. fuck outta here

[Anonymous No.15806804]

>>15806803 me
at most science escaped the hands of religious zealots

[Anonymous No.15806807]

>>15806803
What are you on about Anon? I honestly can't tell if this was some kind of weird crypto-Anglican attack on Jesuits or whatever. Did you read zero history books in your life? I don't know how you formed such weird opinions.

[Anonymous No.15806809]

>>15806800
you can at most argue that a great number of people naturally fall in that framework after millennia of artificial selection for this trait by killing any nonbeliever (eg most scientists of any times). just because we happen to find ourselves in the situation you created does not mean we should linger much.

[Anonymous No.15806811]

>>15806809
What morals and philosophies drive you?

[Anonymous No.15806815]

>>15806811
He can't answer that question because he has none. People like him (not him, he doesn't work in science) would fake data to boost their h-index a single point higher.

It is not worth your time to engage with such an empty mind.

Instead we should discuss strategies to avoid having future generations become this lost and misguided.

[Anonymous No.15806818]

>>15806811
>>15806815
I keep telling you to fuck off to >>>/pol/ >>>/x/ or >>>/lit/ we talk about science here not politics and fantasies

[Anonymous No.15806822]

>>15806815
>would fake data
are you fucking kidding me? I wouldn't trust a religious person near any experiment that would prove their shit wrong. they will even unconsciously sabotage the whole shit

[Anonymous No.15806823]

>>15806818
Shoo shoo. Go back to >>>/pol/ >>>/r/atheist you seething monkey.

[Anonymous No.15806826]

>>15806823
I am not an atheist you fucking presumptuous idiot. see? you made it political. you can't help yourself. you always do

[Anonymous No.15806832]

>>15806822
There are zero established scientific theories that were not developed by someone religious. Not even TBBT which is probably where you got all your weird and uneducated opinions from.

Since you do not have any faith in science as a discipline, you should leave /sci/ and go back to >>>/pol/.

[Anonymous No.15806835]

>>15806826
>Post seething politics and link /pol/
>People tell you to stop posting politics and shitting up the thread as you can do on the sites you belong.
>"HA, SEE! YOU WERE POLITICS POSTING ALL ALONG!"

You should really go back to >>>/pol/.

[Anonymous No.15806840]

>>15806826
Why can't you answer a simple question like "what morals and philosophies drive you?"?

[Anonymous No.15806846]

>>15806832
>There are zero established scientific theories that were not developed by someone religious.
yeah that's what I'm saying, isn't that fucking weird? shouldn't there be a random nonbeliever in there? you know, so it doesn't look weird after a while.
of-course there aren't any or many, if you won't allow it by infiltrating and controlling science.

[Anonymous No.15806860]

>>15806846
It is no surprise that this new crowd of eternally vehement TBBT reddit types (or whatever they are to be called) mostly drop out of second semester Physics or at best end up as some second rate adjunct ignored.

Whatever their iconoclastic methods, it has no real goal, nothing to build with. They should make their own discipline with a new name, instead of trying to sieze ours. This is basically what they are doing anyway, but they still try to steal the name (political """science""" etc.).

[Anonymous No.15806862]

>>15806765
I know this must be 100% true due to the complete lack of direct quotes.

[Anonymous No.15806916]

>>15806765
Yes, but the satanist propaganda is thicke so it has polarized many to mistake spirituality with the political institution that coopts spirituality (religion)

This is why MMP uses egyptian hieroglyphs, it preserves the divine essence of God seeking for those tainted by the devil

[Anonymous No.15806928]

>>15806916
>no sources

[Anonymous No.15806929]

>>15806916
MMP?

[Anonymous No.15806930]

>>15806928
>no sources
You got a source for that?

[Anonymous No.15806933]

>>15806929
>>15806929
>>15803124

[Anonymous No.15806935]

>>15806916
>This is why MMP uses egyptian hieroglyphs, it preserves the divine essence of God seeking for those tainted by the devil
You know hieroglyphs are syllabic right? They use the first sylable of the depicted images to construct their words.

[Anonymous No.15806936]

>>15806930
All of those quotes carry as much weight as myths about Charles Darwin's deathbed confession.

[Anonymous No.15806939]

>>15806765
You're advocating for Women's Studies-tier bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15806942]

>>15806935
Thats what ive been told, but im not convinced of the phoentic bridge is the base level of meaning

1 glyph 100 levels of interpretation

[Anonymous No.15806943]

>>15806936
If thats the bar of myth for you i dont think your qualms rest around science and religion, but why your stuck in a flesh tomb

[Anonymous No.15806975]

>>15806765
Start by persecuting atheists.

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