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Anonymous Fri Oct 6 00:43:52 2023 No.15790655 [Reply] [Original]

How does dry ice form on the surface of Mars with that massive amount of CO2 in it's atmosphere?
Mars has more than 20x as much CO2 as Earth, so it should be warm and comfortable and hospitable because of the massive greenhouse effect from all that CO2.
The coldest temperature ever recorded on Earth wasn't even close to being cold enough for dry ice to form, but Mars has massive dry ice polar caps and its not even that much further away from the sun than Earth is. Meanwhile Earth has only a tiny amount of CO2, if anything Mars should be warmer than Earth because it should have a huge greenhouse effect, but it clearly doesn't.
Why not? Its almost like CO2 is even really a greenhouse gas. If CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas then that would explain why Mars has dry ice polar caps, otherwise there is no way Mars should be getting cold enough to have dry ice polar caps.

Anonymous Fri Oct 6 01:16:19 2023 No.15790722

>Mars has more than 20x as much CO2 as Earth
This is false, even including all the frozen CO2 in Mars' ice caps. No idea where you're getting that
There's a lot of other factors you're forgetting, like the lower gravity and lack of magnetosphere, and the lack of most other gases that compose Earth's atmosphere
>How does dry ice form
Because it's extremely cold and extremely low pressure. Ice can't just magically sublimate and warm itself up

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 6 03:01:29 2023 No.15790836 >>15790722 mars has over 20x more CO2 than earth, do the numbers yourself if you doubt it. you're not one of those zoomers who can't even add fractions, are you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 6 04:40:30 2023 No.15790933 >>15790655 Are you retarded? Dry ice is solid CO2. >>15790836 Ahh, I see you are in fact retarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 6 12:43:39 2023 No.15791412 >>15790655 Where are all the aliens ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 6 12:49:49 2023 No.15791417 >>15790836 Your lungs have 20x more CO2 in them than the surrounding air, why aren't your lungs 3000 degrees warm?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 6 13:16:02 2023 No.15791446 >>15790655 >How does dry ice form on the surface of Mars with that massive amount of CO2 in it's atmosphere? This is easy: dry ice is made of CO2. In fact, it couldn't form without the CO2!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 6 18:12:29 2023 No.15791814 >>15791417 no direct sunlight

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 6 18:31:15 2023 No.15791848 >>15790836 >you're not one of those zoomers who can't even add fractions, are you? lmao you cannot add fractions, you can only multiply them. If you add them, you get a wrong result, like [math]\frac12 + \frac14 \neq \frac26[/math]

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 6 22:48:36 2023 No.15792196 >>15791848 you're one of those zoomers who can't even add fractions

Anonymous Sat Oct 7 01:57:04 2023 No.15792618

>>15790655
Mars maybe had magnetic core and life, but it had troubles being disbalanced to keep itself working, so it cancelled out with itself. Literally, it didn't spinned so much, it could keep it's spins apart, because it's not made of metal, but iron, sodium and pottasium are true metals that keeps the magnets alive. When you consider it, where would you see so much empty space for electron as exact half?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 7 05:11:23 2023 No.15792866 >>15790655 Dry ice is worth $2/pound Imagine the profit to be made by harvesting it for free on Mars and selling it on Earth. Mars's polar caps are worth about $2,000,000,000,000,000 each

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 7 05:41:23 2023 No.15792905 >>15792196 If you think you can add fractions then you're an overconfident bomber. No, you can't. No one can. And I'm tired to pretend you can.

Anonymous Sat Oct 7 05:48:16 2023 No.15792913
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>>15791412
ayyy i'm just chillin' in my saucer floatin' round the planet at the speed of light doin' a bit of dmt geometry
dunno what the rest of the spacebrothers are up to but that's where i'm at rn

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 7 07:18:20 2023 No.15793033 >>15790722 >This is false Check it yourself. It's easy to work out from relative partial pressures of CO2 on Earth vs Mars. I was surprised too but it's more or less correct

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 7 14:04:12 2023 No.15793357 >>15792866 The real reason Musk wants to get to Mars

Anonymous Sun Oct 8 03:38:22 2023 No.15794131

>>15793033
People who can't do math can't check it for themselves, they're stuck relying on (((media))) sources for all of their information.
Thats why globohomo is intentionally sabotaging and dumbing down math education, because doing so leave people at the mercy of the globohomo media

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 8 08:34:44 2023 No.15794312 >>15790655 The atmosphere is barely 1% as thick

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 8 13:06:31 2023 No.15794545 >>15790722 how exactly does low pressure promote CO2 stayin in solid form when it should be the opposite

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 8 13:27:41 2023 No.15794565 >>15794131 Peak Dunning Kruger. Just smart enough to calculate the amount of CO2 on Mars, yet too dumb to consider all the other factors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 9 06:12:58 2023 No.15795677 >>15794312 so? it has massive amounts of co2, the greenhouse effect from all that co2 should hold heat in better than earth's atmosphere does

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 9 06:14:57 2023 No.15795681 >>15795677 CO2 just absorbs the IR. What holds the heat is the entire atmosphere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 9 06:18:43 2023 No.15795688 >>15795677 >the greenhouse effect from all that co2 should hold heat in better than earth's atmosphere does Water is a better sunlight retainer, much better. And at the amounts of the air we have even nitrogen and oxygen are good greenhouse gasses.

Anonymous Mon Oct 9 06:28:40 2023 No.15795696

Despite mars having no water (most important greenhouse gas on earth) and only 1% of the earth's atmosphere, they have something like 15% of the greenhouse effect we have. Wow, CO2 seems pretty potent. Looking at Venus confirms this. Maybe we would investigate what CO2 emissions do to earth's climate?

Anonymous Mon Oct 9 07:17:47 2023 No.15795740

>>15793033
mass of mars atmosphere: 2.5 x 10^16
mass of earth atmosphere: 5.9722 * 10^24
even though mars has ~950000 PPM of CO2 vs earths ~421, mars only having 0.000000004 times the mass of earths atmosphere means it 0.00000944 times as much CO2 as earth

if you do it by atmospheric pressure, which some people say is more fair since mars's atmosphere has less area to cover
mars atmosphere pressure: 0.059 earths
950000 / 421 =2256.53206651 higher PPM than earth
2256.53 * 0.059 = 133.13527 times the CO2 pressure
and yeah this supports your argument better but earth's atmosphere has a fuck ton of water vapor to help out

also mars has 0.283045378463x the surface area of earth, and with a CO2 mass only 0.00000944 as high as earth's that means mars still has far less CO2 per square meter of land than earth does

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 9 08:34:21 2023 No.15795789 >>15790836 >mars has over 20x more CO2 than earth Source?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 9 13:15:21 2023 No.15796030 >>15790655 thats why we should hnuke mars. nuking near ice caps covers them in dust. dust sublimates the CO2 and water, making a 600mB atmo in about 20 yrs. then we send plants lichens then a few decades later we have a nice jungle planet. win

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 9 13:39:55 2023 No.15796067 >>15795740 Chuds BTFO

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 9 15:25:08 2023 No.15796174 >>15796170 >Chud has no source >posts wojak instead

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 9 21:58:55 2023 No.15796839 >>15795740 how does mars' atmosphere weigh 0.0000005 as much as earth's when mars is at 6.5 millibars

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 10 00:45:09 2023 No.15797004 >>15796839 smaller planet, earths atmosphere extends further into space too

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 10 01:03:00 2023 No.15797029 >>15797004 So how does it get to 6.5mb, does Mars have a core made of neutron star material?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 10 01:05:42 2023 No.15797035 >>15790655 >How does dry ice form on the surface of Mars with that massive amount of CO2 in it's atmosphere? dry ice is made of CO2, so it checks out. hope this helps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 10 01:07:12 2023 No.15797038 >>15791848 >you cannot add fractions, oh dear, a retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 10 19:10:10 2023 No.15798122 >>15797029 they don't need that, an inability to back freshman level math and physics is enough to power their beliefs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 11 05:18:17 2023 No.15798766 >>15793033 tell an idiot >Check it yourself. and expect the idiot to return a fantastically wrong answer because thats what idiots do, >>15795740 is a fine example of this phenomenon

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 11 21:39:34 2023 No.15799923 >>15795740 the total mass of the atmosphere is the atmospheric pressure in pounds per square inch multiplied by the total number of square inches on the planet's surface

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 11 21:46:41 2023 No.15799931 >>15790655 Mars will be bombed by redox peacehead, and will be able to sustain life. There's already people dreaming about that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 11 21:51:26 2023 No.15799941 >>15799923 >Pressure is mass per unit area This is why America is a shithole, scientifically speaking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 12 06:34:29 2023 No.15800510 >>15799941 >reeeeeeeee i hate america!!!! take your nationalistic inferiority complex over to where it belongs >>>/int/

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 12 21:49:30 2023 No.15801613 >>15797038 very common on /sci/ science attracts primarily low IQ people because the media promotes science as worth doing and only low IQs are dumb enough to trust the media

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 12 21:50:59 2023 No.15801618 >>15800510 I think people knowing the difference between weight and mass are the ones who should be allowed to stay on /sci/

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 06:48:20 2023 No.15802202 where are all the global warming !?!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 13 23:50:17 2023 No.15803286 >>15791412 Maybe thats who is making the dry ice on Mars. If CO2 is really a greenhouse gas there is no natural explanation for dry ice on Mars

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 14 01:50:37 2023 No.15803362 File: 50 KB, 999x732, tgp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15790655 Learn the basics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 14 21:01:24 2023 No.15804601 >>15803362 you don't know the basics, that chatbot output

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 15 02:02:02 2023 No.15804956 >>15804601 What's the group you target with that nonsense?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 15 04:27:29 2023 No.15805046 >>15791848 >this is the level of math they used in those retarded models they refuse to publicly release Global warming retards, it isn't looking to good for us

Anonymous Sun Oct 15 04:46:28 2023 No.15805057

>>15795740
I really, truly, hope you aren't a scientist or engineer because your level of reasoning with basic mathematical/scientific concepts is extremely deficient, yet you still have the deluded confidence and ego to post something this retarded as an answer to a 4th grade level problem.
This isn't some kind of quick maths mistake. You probably spent 10-20 minutes looking up, calculating, interpreting, and writing this post, and yet not once did you realize the monumental fuck up you made in your 3rd line. You even directly reference part of what you failed to consider later in your 8th line, but still, you didn't to apply this information to your previous analysis, in fact, somehow you use this to try and further support it.
Unless you were extremely inebriated when you did this, your level of deficiency can not be treated or improved, this is the innate level your brain can work with these ideas. Genuinely, if you are pursuing any engineering or scientific occupation, or are already in one, please stop immediately. Your incompetency is almost certainly going to lead to the deaths of dozens of people, and that's best case scenario.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 15 05:27:46 2023 No.15805085 File: 1.32 MB, 1x1, Eschenbach-Climate-Models.pdf [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15805046 some information about their models has become public

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 15 11:32:21 2023 No.15805332 >>15790655 Fuck you and your stupid nigger posts Kys

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 15 17:28:18 2023 No.15805647 >>15805057 You use a whole lot of words for saying nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 15 19:53:11 2023 No.15805814 >>15805085 >Net Zero Watch Literal oil shill, fuck off

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 16 00:41:01 2023 No.15806309 >>15805814 >attacking the source because you can't disprove the information presented you're admitting that everything in the document is accurate

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 16 01:56:21 2023 No.15806411 >>15806309 Nonsense. It's propaganda paid for by fossil fuel companies. These think tanks have a long history of manipulating data and outright fabrication. This is more of the same.

Anonymous Mon Oct 16 02:03:55 2023 No.15806417

>>15790655
The CO2 in our atmosphere isn't working in a vacuum. Each CO2 molecule absorbs infrared light and has a chance to bounce off of a nitrogen or oxygen atom and transfer some of that energy before it re-emits it.

On Earth, the CO2 molecules warm up the air around them, and since the air around them cannot as easily radiate infrared, the air warms up more.
Of Mars it's basically all CO2 and at low pressure, so every molecule can efficiently radiate infrared, and the heat escapes more rapidly upward. Also, the sunlight is about half as intense as Earth sunlight so the maximum expected temperature is much lower anyway.
On Venus the CO2 is so thick that regardless of the higher emissivity of CO2 there's simply so much piled up that it takes a long time for heat to escape, and given the 2x brighter sunlight the result is a very hot surface.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 16 03:13:22 2023 No.15806454 >>15806309 You don't need to bother to check because you know there's stuff wrong, if it comes from a "conservative", oil lobby funded think tank.

Anonymous Mon Oct 16 21:20:50 2023 No.15807623 [DELETED]

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>>15806411
>These think tanks have a long history of manipulating data and outright fabrication.
no they don't, you're just making that up.
the global warming shills are the ones with a documented history of fabirication

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 16 21:27:46 2023 No.15807637 >>15807623 >You cannot see that a screenshot is 20 years old by the jpeg degradation

Anonymous Tue Oct 17 00:00:42 2023 No.15807854
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>>15807623
Lol no. How can you be so ignorant? Do you not have access to google? Start with this PDF and these links and look up anything you don't believe. Organized climate change denial is a deep rabbit hole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CO2_Coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreedomWorks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Prosperity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_Institute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Enterprise_Institute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advancement_of_Sound_Science_Center
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Energy_Research
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Climate_Coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Institute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExxonMobil_climate_change_denial

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 00:01:39 2023 No.15807855 File: 281 KB, 1276x693, sangger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15807854 >wikipedia

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 00:15:56 2023 No.15807872 >>15806454 >>>http://letfychan.net/leftypol

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 00:21:22 2023 No.15807881 >>15807855 Google anything you don't believe. You can also type "organized climate change denial campaigns" into any search engine. Net Zero Watch is the second wikipedia link I gave you.

Anonymous Tue Oct 17 01:58:50 2023 No.15807947

>>15806417
>The CO2 in our atmosphere isn't working in a vacuum. Each CO2 molecule absorbs infrared light and has a chance to bounce off of a nitrogen or oxygen atom and transfer some of that energy before it re-emits it.
magically the infrared permeates to all the atmosphere. Neither intensity loss nor absorption limit caused by 100% opaqueness at some concentration. A wondergas, it absorbs and passes the magical wavelengths (at a very low spectral band btw.) at the same time. I kneel, as i do an bigbang evolution virus and all the other utterly bullshit science scammers rigutate the whole day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 03:06:17 2023 No.15808058 >>15807881 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_activism#Environmental_activism

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 03:20:55 2023 No.15808076 >>15808058 What relevance do you imagine that page has to organized climate change denial?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 05:16:04 2023 No.15808185 >>15807947 >A wondergas, it absorbs and passes the magical wavelengths (at a very low spectral band btw.) at the same time. Stop pretending that you're more retarded than you are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 10:38:12 2023 No.15808506 >>15808185 you have never studied physics

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 11:53:36 2023 No.15808575 >>15808506 Factually wrong. I have a PhD in physics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 12:14:07 2023 No.15808590 >>15790655 CO2 is greenhouse gas, because of atmospheric layers and diffraction.

Anonymous Tue Oct 17 12:48:51 2023 No.15808625

>>15790655
>why does the planet whose atmosphere consists of CO2 have polar ice caps made of CO2
Like.. ???? What even is your point? Should the ice caps be made of something different? Is this a new global warming denial scheme or are you legit retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 18:29:34 2023 No.15809107 >>15808575 >have a PhD in physics. Find the failure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 18:32:41 2023 No.15809113 >>15808076 > climate change denial Using that obvious shizo terms are one of the best idiot detectors ever issued.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 19:02:33 2023 No.15809173 >>15809113 Nonsense. The money trail is mostly public and very clear. You clearly haven't looked into this topic at all. Why don't you start by googling "net zero watch funding" and see what pops up?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 19:10:54 2023 No.15809197 >>15809173 >FoLlOw ThE mOnEy >No, not like this

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 21:00:11 2023 No.15809373 >>15808625 you're only upset because you can't understand how a planet with such a massive amount of greenhouse gasses in it's atmosphere has naturally occurring dry ice on it's surface

Anonymous Tue Oct 17 21:18:58 2023 No.15809401

>>15809373
I'm legitimately confused what your point is. Mars is 40% further away from the Sun than the earth, that's half the solar power per unit area. The radiative power emitted from the planet scales with [math]T^4[/math], so naively, without greenhouse effect, the average temperature is like [math]0.5^{1/4} = 0.84[/math] times our temperature. If our polar caps are below something like -30°C, or 240K, I expect mars' polar caps to be below 200K.
Now consider that mars has no water, which gives us most of our 30 degrees of greenhouse effect, I have no reason to find dry ice on mars weird, despite the lower pressure and reduced melting point.
So, no. I don't have trouble understanding why Mars has naturally occurring dry ice, since this is exactly what I'd come up with on the back of an envelope and without looking up specifics. If you would, the numbers would probably make even more sense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 21:20:20 2023 No.15809404 >>15809373 Oceans absorb almost all light, and earth is 70% ocean. Mars reflects most of the sunlight. That's why it's so cold on Mars, faggot.

Anonymous Tue Oct 17 21:36:25 2023 No.15809430

Mars, despite its 95% carbon dioxide (CO2) atmosphere, is cold due to various factors. Four crucial aspects affecting a planet's temperature are atmospheric composition, atmospheric density, water content, and distance from the Sun. Earth’s habitable climate results from a balanced combination of these aspects, but an increase in greenhouse gases like CO2 is disrupting this balance, leading to global warming. CO2, though a minor part of Earth’s atmosphere, has seen nearly a doubling in concentration since the 1950s, resulting in significant climate shifts. Historical data reveals that during Earth's ice ages, CO2 levels were around 200ppm, but levels surpassed 400ppm by 2013, emphasizing CO2's impactful role in climate moderation.

Unlike Earth, Mars lacks substantial water and has a thinner atmosphere, making it less effective at trapping heat. Its distance from the Sun also contributes to its colder temperature. Mars experiences wide temperature fluctuations due to these factors, with temperatures ranging from slightly above zero to minus 80°C daily.

In the realm of terraforming, the concept revolves around transforming unlivable planetary atmospheres into breathable ones, a popular theme in science fiction. The ultimate goal remains to manage and restore the atmospheric balance on Earth, mitigating the adverse impacts of climate change.

Anonymous Tue Oct 17 21:57:54 2023 No.15809455

>>15809197
Have you followed any money, or have you just taken someone else's word for it? You should look into the organized climate change denial campaigns that have been utilized by oil companies since the 80's. This is on par with all the US rivers that would routinely catch on fire until the EPA was founded and given the power to fine these companies who were illegally dumping highly flammable, highly toxic wastes into our rivers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 17 23:00:41 2023 No.15809551 >>15790655 Mars barely has atmosphere compared to Earth, you utter moron. You've been making the same thread for years you useless schizo n1663r.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 18 06:45:10 2023 No.15810129 >>15809455 >This is on par with all the US rivers that would routinely catch on fire that never happened

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 18 07:40:35 2023 No.15810183 >>15800510 Everyone hates muttmerica. It's not an inferiority complex, just disgust, faggot nigger.

Anonymous Wed Oct 18 08:09:14 2023 No.15810212

>>15809173
>>15809455
Whatever you talk about oil company claims, it does'nt change the fact that the wording is utterly dumb, unscientific and only used by retards and propaganda shills. Further: The idea only one group has money interests is even below this retarded lowest level, Where are all the good people gone to?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 18 09:53:37 2023 No.15810290 >>15810212 >Further: The idea only one group has money interests is even below this retarded lowest level Who is the other group exactly? Where does their money come from?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 18 12:39:53 2023 No.15810399 >>15790655 Kys

Anonymous Wed Oct 18 12:52:54 2023 No.15810417

>>15810129
Open a book, retard.

https://www.history.com/news/epa-earth-day-cleveland-cuyahoga-river-fire-clean-water-act
>But on June 22, 1969, a spark flared from the train tracks down to the river below, igniting industrial debris floating on the surface of the water. Flames spread across the river, in some places reaching five stories high.
>the not-so-unusual river fire helped create an environmental revolution.
>and fueled a growing movement that culminated in the creation of the Environmental Protection Agency.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 18 12:54:06 2023 No.15810418 >>15810212 Nonsense. Get reading and cope harder.

Anonymous Wed Oct 18 18:32:17 2023 No.15810839

>>15810418
>Nonsense
Don't know where you live, over here we have energy taxes all caused by CO2 arguments. With a trace gas in ppm concentration.
Myself rides a bike, heat only one room in winter and do not fly. Pretty sure I have one of the best energy stamps in this shitty board. Just saying I am pro environment. But arguments like muuh bad oil industry so arguments I do not like are not valid is stupid and delusional.

Rise in CO2 is around 200ppm in last century. That's 0.2 promille or a drop of 0.2 millilitre (ml) in a litre of water. Water vapor, a way more capable clima gas is around 4% or 40 ml. That's the relation 50 times more and you shills will tell me the CO is the reason of climate change -which I'd deliberately changed from global warming because the data do not fit anymore the modeled scenario.

Anonymous Wed Oct 18 18:49:54 2023 No.15810878

>>15810839
>With a trace gas in ppm concentration.
That's by far the dumbest argument I've heard. If you had 420ppm of polonium inside you you'd be dead pretty quick.
>Rise in CO2 is around 200ppm in last century. That's 0.2 promille or a drop of 0.2 millilitre (ml) in a litre of water.
Again, 0.2 ml of many substances in a lite of water will kill you.

But also, global warming is an energy imbalance of 1W/m^2, or 0.3%. That's a cumshot in a litre of water. Thats enough to change the climate.

Anonymous Wed Oct 18 19:30:15 2023 No.15810961
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>>15810878
You're using those ridiculous lowbrow analogies because you're ignorant of the real science involved.

>>15810839
>Rise in CO2 is around 200ppm in last century
Oh sure, the same soiyence charlatans who alter historical records to fit their global warming narrative and who have a track record of lying and other manipulative dishonesty are totally telling the truth about how much CO2 was in the atmosphere in 1900.
How low does your IQ have to be to be as gullible as you are?

Anonymous Wed Oct 18 19:34:28 2023 No.15810970

>>15810961
>alter historical records to fit their global warming narrative
Never happened, take your meds.
>have a track record of lying and other manipulative dishonesty
The oil lobby has just been lying for decades, so that track record is quite long, but not true.
>How low does your IQ have to be to be as gullible as you are?
The irony.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 18 20:18:05 2023 No.15811049 >>15805814 Do the planet a favor and kill yourself, you parasite waste of resources.

Anonymous Wed Oct 18 21:10:05 2023 No.15811098

>>15810961
The claimed increase looks reasonable when compared the total amount of fossil fuels burned. Sinks and sources must match, if you add a new source, the sinks won't magically adjust to match exactly, so the excess builds up in the atmosphere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 18 21:24:57 2023 No.15811118 >>15811049 Found the triggered oil shill. Fuck off.

Anonymous Wed Oct 18 22:35:34 2023 No.15811261

>>15810961
>telling the truth about how much CO2 was in the atmosphere in ...

You can't measure a global average. It's "modeled", nowadays sciencefrauds term for a lie.

Know people calibrating gas detectors. They measure 200ppm in atmosphere. Sure that's a local variation (different to valid globals like highways and Mauna Loa volcano station).

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 18 22:36:38 2023 No.15811263 >>15810878 >That's by far the dumbest argument I've heard. If you had 420ppm of polonium inside you you'd be dead pretty quick. And if a add 10 000 l water the effect is ... .

Anonymous Thu Oct 19 00:24:21 2023 No.15811380

>>15810839
Water vapor has a low residence time in the atmosphere. It's not well mixed and the concentration is dependent on local temperatures. Because of that water vapor is incapable of driving global warming although it will amplify the effects of other greenhouse gasses.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 19 00:31:13 2023 No.15811385 >>15811380 Water vapor is the only significant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere, it is responsible for over 98% of heat retention in our atmosphere. This can be measured directly by comparing nighttime cooling rates in high and low humidity regions.

Anonymous Thu Oct 19 00:56:54 2023 No.15811425

>>15811385
>Water vapor is the only significant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere
That's entirely untrue. Without any other greenhouse gasses all the water vapor would condense into water and the Earth would have no greenhouse effect at all. Water cannot drive global warming. It merely forms a positive feedback loop with other greenhouse gasses.

>high and low humidity regions.
The existence of regions with high and low humidity prove that water vapor is not well mixed in the atmosphere and corroborates the fact that humidity is dependent on local temperature and water availability.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 19 00:58:42 2023 No.15811429 >>15811425 Schizophrenic low IQ post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 19 01:05:05 2023 No.15811438 >>15811429 Try reading a freshman level climate science text. It will clear up a lot of your misconceptions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 19 01:06:52 2023 No.15811443 >>15811438 If you had any education beyond the freshman undergraduate level you would understand why you're wrong.

Anonymous Thu Oct 19 01:28:00 2023 No.15811466

>>15811443
The irony. You have misconceptions about the fundamentals of climate science which is why you need to start with a freshman text. Any freshman climate science or environmental science text should suffice and if you want I can link you to a book on libgen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 19 06:56:17 2023 No.15811797 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgxSOLOPGfk

Anonymous Thu Oct 19 07:06:24 2023 No.15811802 [DELETED]

>>15811466
I've seen those books, no math. Climate science isn't intellectually or mathematically rigorous and the people who study it don't understand basic thermodynamics. Three decades ago "climate science" was called "atmospheric science" and it was a subset of physics.
>environmental science
girl's science

Anonymous Thu Oct 19 07:14:44 2023 No.15811810

>>15811802
>Three decades ago "climate science" was called "atmospheric science" and it was a subset of physics.
That implies that aquatic and terrestrial systems aren't part of the climate. Are you sure that you aren't a schizo who makes up bullshit? The climate where you live strongly depends on the distance to oceans and oceanic currents.

Anonymous Thu Oct 19 07:23:33 2023 No.15811818

>>15811802
>I've seen those books, no math.
What a ridiculous, low-iq fedora level sentence. First of all, it's wrong, but secondly, what "math" do you expect? I just published a paper on my particle detector and the highest level of math is a Poissonian probability distribution. I took some environmental physics classes and I can tell you, undergrad lectures had more maths. No fact, those books will take you to the very edge of things you can solve "with math", unless you can whip out an analytical solution to the Navier-Stokes equation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 19 13:26:17 2023 No.15812128 >>15811802 >I've seen those books, Have you ever opened them? >no math. That's a no then.

Anonymous Thu Oct 19 20:03:29 2023 No.15812583

>>15811810
>>Three decades ago
There was the same discussion. Sometimes with way better arguments as on this forsaken board of low IQ. But climate shills reacted equal. Muuh Oil at best usual pre ignorance.

Same as in any of this so called science, which is in reality a dumb believe system, unintentionally revealed by shizo wording like "deniers" (in opposite to believers) and "change". When you think that "change" is the must dumb and idiotic term possible, congrats you are outside the targeted audience. Hope you are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 07:07:52 2023 No.15813281 >>15812128 memorizing formulas that you don't understand how or why or if they work is not doing math.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 07:25:14 2023 No.15813300 >>15813281 Wow, you moved the goalposts so far I can't even see them anymore. So your new argument is that because you don't understand the equations used in climate science, nobody does? Do you want to give that some more thought?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 07:26:15 2023 No.15813302 >>15812583 Take your meds and stop making things up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 08:35:40 2023 No.15813367 >>15790655 Because greenhouse gases are a lie and don’t exist.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 20:26:43 2023 No.15813990 >>15812583 /thread

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 08:36:04 2023 No.15814793 [DELETED]

>>15813281
Its a shame that science students are longer required to learn were the formulas they use come from and how and why they were created because Boltzmann's thermodynamics is inaccurate and could use some improvement. If students are taught to take thermodynamics for granted as a given fact then the necessary improvements and corrections will never be made.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 11:03:25 2023 No.15814860 >>15813367 Please calculate the equilibrium temperatures of Venus, Earth and Mars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 12:13:38 2023 No.15814902 >>15814793 The same could be said for Kirchoff's Law and the blackbody spectrum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:56:19 2023 No.15815615 >>15814902 Its all based on the arbitrarily selected premise of an infinite static universe with a baseline temperature of 0ºK, which is now known to be a false premise, yet people still treat thermodynamics as if was written in stone by god himself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 01:34:05 2023 No.15815805 >>15811425 >Without any other greenhouse gasses all the water vapor would condense into water and the Earth would have no greenhouse effect at all. Literally, chemically false. As in "I never learned what vapor pressure was in high school" false.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 21:25:38 2023 No.15816991 >>15814902 Planck's law uses Boltzmann's nonexistent constant

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 22:05:38 2023 No.15817061 >>15816991 It always seems bizarre that physicists in other disciplines will just uncritically assume these things are true for everything, including (for example) stars, when they have strict definitional requirements that most objects do not meet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 06:30:03 2023 No.15817610 >>15817061 analytical physics is a dead art, everyone is just coasting along presuming that the formulas handed down to them by the ancient ones are the indisputable truth written in stone

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 07:24:41 2023 No.15817640

>>15817610
Even to the extent of using general rules-of-thumb for completely disparate things? I mean for goodness sake there are people out there who literally believe that the sun has no surface, but that its nonexistent surface behaves like a solid surface in every way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 22:22:29 2023 No.15818600 where are all the aliens !?!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 07:51:50 2023 No.15819251 >>15817061 also, >if a constant is true currently then that means it has to stay the same forever wtf is up with that total bullcrap?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 08:33:10 2023 No.15819274 >>15816991 >>15817061 >>15819251 I never heard of the Boltzmann constant not being constant. Is this a legit theory or some Mandlbaur shit?

Anonymous Tue Oct 24 08:37:39 2023 No.15819278 [DELETED]

>>15819274
The Boltzmann constant was derived from the absurd presumption of a static universe with a baseline temperature of 0ºK as was the rest of Boltzmann & the gang's thermodynamics. As a result the CMB fits the curve fairly well, but nothing else does.

Anonymous Tue Oct 24 08:40:51 2023 No.15819280

>>15819278
>the absurd presumption of a static universe with a baseline temperature of 0ºK
Well, it's K, not °K, so I'm not sure how serious I should take your criticism. It's just a definition of absolute temperature, isn't it? What's the reason that no kinetic energy should correspond to a temperature other than 0K?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 13:34:01 2023 No.15819482 >>15815805 What's the vapor pressure of water on Mars?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 20:06:11 2023 No.15819999 File: 183 KB, 656x902, volcano2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15811425

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 20:13:08 2023 No.15820009 >>15819999 Sometimes I wonder if you people are elaborately trolling or are clinically retarded. But I decide to answer in the spirit of >>15819482 What's the vapor pressure of water in the stratosphere?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 01:42:35 2023 No.15820530 >>15805057 What was wrong about it? why dont you calculate it? Mr. Correction over here gonna pull out his dusty ti-84 after his 10 hr goon sesh?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 09:46:25 2023 No.15821036 >>15819280 >autistic nitpicking over notation because you can't address the heart of the matter

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 10:45:19 2023 No.15821078 >>15821036 I did. If you took your ADHD meds and acquired an attention span of greater than 5 words you'd manage to finish reading my comment and see that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 12:43:22 2023 No.15821185 >>15821078 You clearly misunderstood what he was talking about due to your low IQ.

Anonymous Wed Oct 25 16:43:01 2023 No.15821534

>Classified Alien Projects Whistleblower - A. H. Boeing Aerospace/Witness Testimony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiySnxiv1J0
>face on mars is real, made by aliens
>aliens created the sun
>aliens put the planets in orbit
>gray aliens are in charge of the earth as a sentinel race
>humans created by aliens
>electromagnetic gravitics is real
>ufos teleport
>humanlike aliens called "the orange"
>roswell crash was real
>aliens have underground bases, they always have
>evidence of aliens going back to prehistory
>new laser weapons and soundwave weapons that can demolish buildings
>aliens thousands of years ahead of us
>thinks we're catching up to aliens technologically
>remote viewing of past and future
>operation looking glass
>aliens can go into past and future many years
>mutated our dna over a hundred times
>the aliens want to look like us

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 18:10:44 2023 No.15821663 >>15821534 >aliens created the sun. If they could do that, why bother with humanity? If you can make an entire solar system, why not just cultivate humanity like a crop for whatever you needed, rather than setting them loose on a planet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 18:12:54 2023 No.15821667 File: 605 KB, 1080x1046, aliens carter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15821663 this might be a genetic experiment, or some kind of experiment

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 21:06:47 2023 No.15821927 >>15791814 also CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 21:21:33 2023 No.15821953 >>15821927 That's why Venus is so cold, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 06:28:57 2023 No.15822709 >>15821953 You'll learn about the effects of proximity to the sun and atmospheric pressure on temperature when you get older

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 06:31:56 2023 No.15822712 >>15822709 Why is Venus hotter than Mercury?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 06:56:33 2023 No.15822731 >>15822712 Because the atmospheric pressure of Venus is nearly 16 powers of ten higher than that of Mercury. As any high school student knows, there exists a direct relationship between the pressure of a gas and its temperature.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 07:09:57 2023 No.15822736 >>15822731 Does that mean that full spray paint bottles (high pressure) are warmer than empty ones?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 07:18:07 2023 No.15822745 >>15822736 If you light a flame underneath both, which will explode?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 07:20:07 2023 No.15822752 >>15822745 There's no flame under Venus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 07:23:12 2023 No.15822757 >>15822752 Huh, well you really are dedicated to playing the role I'll give you that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 07:27:41 2023 No.15822763 >>15822757 You too. Kudos, deliberately misunderstanding 7th grade physics to justify burning fossil fuels wasn't on my list of things I directed. Sadly, there are retards on this board who will think you're being serious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 07:29:10 2023 No.15822766 >>15822763 Denying the existence of the sun is probably one of the most staggering troll attempts I've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 07:34:43 2023 No.15822771 >>15822766 The sun is closer to mercury, yet mercury is colder. Do you think that empty paint cans don't get warm if you light a fire under them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 11:49:55 2023 No.15822990 >>15790655 >so it should be warm and comfortable and hospitable because of the massive greenhouse effect from all that CO2. this is what incel chud truthers actually believe btw pol was a mistake

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 23:21:46 2023 No.15823959 >>15822990 How come Mars has no greenhouse effect when it has so much CO2?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 23:22:31 2023 No.15823961 >>15823959 Mars does have a greenhouse effect. Get your facts from somewhere other than /pol/ and facebook

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 01:42:21 2023 No.15824116 File: 163 KB, 1024x1024, _a9621a51-8d2c-426e-b6ee-6a77790d0ce2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15795740 >mars only having 0.000000004 times the mass of earths atmosphere

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 01:43:45 2023 No.15824117 >>15821663 >why not just cultivate humanity like a crop for whatever you needed, rather than setting them loose on a planet? Who says we aren't?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 01:48:42 2023 No.15824126 >>15790655 >How does a planet with a CO2 atmosphere have CO2 ice caps? You should be able to solve this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 02:50:12 2023 No.15824209 >>15790655 isn't mars also bigger?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 03:09:29 2023 No.15824242 >>15810961 >dude measurements CO2 concentration on the atmosphere are fake because I say so

Anonymous Fri Oct 27 03:19:56 2023 No.15824259

>>15824242
>I have never owned or operated a CO2 meter, therefore I have no choice other than to trust the government to tell me the truth about CO2, the same government thats been caught in a million lies, so I think I'll just trust the government
not very good at pattern recognition, are you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 06:37:36 2023 No.15824472 >>15824259 >I believe the CO2 concentration on Mars

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 00:23:28 2023 No.15825760 >>15819274 its not possible for it to be constant in an expanding universe

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 08:04:25 2023 No.15826280 >>15824259 b-b-but the government would never lie about something that had political and financial implications, would it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 23:37:38 2023 No.15827486 File: 2.18 MB, 1x1, 1684060306970281.pdf [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15824242 they probably are, the people who make those measurements are all known liars

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 21:36:53 2023 No.15828929 >>15824116 belief in global warming turns on stupidity

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 22:24:49 2023 No.15829019 >>15828929 This.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 22:37:59 2023 No.15829040 >>15828929 Why do you try to keep all these idiotic threads alive?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 20:47:58 2023 No.15830534 >>15824472 >I don't believe the CO2 concentration on Mars >But I do believe the CO2 concentration in the cone of an active volcano is representative of the atmosphere of the entirety of Earth

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 22:20:28 2023 No.15830679 File: 50 KB, 630x354, 41586_2014_Article_BFnature201416615_Figc_HTML.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15830534 >Satellite measurements don't exist

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 06:09:03 2023 No.15831272 >>15830679 looks at where all the red hotspots are on that map. compare that to where the white nations that are blamed for co2 and expected to pay co2 taxes are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 06:11:39 2023 No.15831277 >>15831272 The majority of red hotspots correspond with vulcanism except for the one over China.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 19:58:47 2023 No.15832146 >>15831277 yeah, brazil is well known for it's volcanic activity

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 21:28:54 2023 No.15832284 >>15832146 You'll note that the South American clusters are centered on the volcanic highlands.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 22:08:15 2023 No.15832344 >>15831277 >This map correlates to population density No way! So amazing!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 22:08:59 2023 No.15832345 >>15832344 It emphatically doesn't. That's the interesting part.

Anonymous Tue Oct 31 22:26:58 2023 No.15832367
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>>15831272
>looks at where all the red hotspots are on that map.
They are where you expect forest fires in October and November. On the southern hemisphere, where you have a lot of forests.
>>15831277
No.
>>15832344
>>15832345
China and North America look very much like a population/industry density map.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 23:54:38 2023 No.15832513 >>15831277 thats because volcanoes emit much, much more co2 than anything man made does

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 23:56:29 2023 No.15832516 >>15832513 Why did they only start doing that in the late 19th century?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 23:57:26 2023 No.15832518 >>15832516 That whole thing is just made up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 00:00:55 2023 No.15832525 >>15832518 What is made up? The idea that volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans? I know, I wanted to hear the pathetic excuse anyway. Next I would've asked where all the oxygen in our atmosphere went.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 00:01:25 2023 No.15832526 >>15832525 Oh no no no. The nonsense you spewed is made up. The other anon is completely correct.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 00:06:42 2023 No.15832534 >>15832526 Sorry, I don't speak schizo

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 00:09:43 2023 No.15832543 >>15832534 Now I understand why you have a hard time writing your posts. Try speaking English from now on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 18:16:51 2023 No.15833853 >>15832516 >the late 19th century? Tambora was in the early 1800s

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 19:00:04 2023 No.15833933 >>15833853 Didn’t significantly change the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere though. Maybe the notion that volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans is wrong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 05:20:46 2023 No.15835002 >>15833933 >I know the composition of the atmosphere from the early 1800s sure you do

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 08:47:14 2023 No.15835250 >>15835002 >I don't know it but I know it's not the one measured in ice cores

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 19:03:48 2023 No.15835977 >>15790655 >Its almost like CO2 is even really a greenhouse gas. If CO2 were a greenhouse gas then sea level would be rising here on Earth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 19:58:52 2023 No.15836091 File: 66 KB, 1200x675, 1880-_Global_average_sea_level_rise_(SLR)_-_annually.svg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15835977 Based and truthpilled

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 21:00:23 2023 No.15836179

>>15836091
70m since last ice age tax the Neandertals! Actual tide hub up to 14 meters. "Modeled" average (unobserved) is 0,25 / 150 years in that shittty overzoomed propaganda bullsheet.

Why are you idiots alive? Everyone with the slightest self-awareness will immediately kill himself (reason:hopeless retardation).

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 21:02:40 2023 No.15836184 >>15836179 >(unobserved) What do you mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 21:08:28 2023 No.15836197 >>15836184 >What do you mean by this? Nothing. just a trap for idiots like ...

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 22:38:36 2023 No.15836413 >>15836197 ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 06:33:11 2023 No.15837029 >>15836091 >graph starts at the end of the little ice age errry single time

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 07:05:50 2023 No.15837062 >>15837029 >Bitches but never posts anything better Every single time

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 22:48:16 2023 No.15838408 >>15835250 the peer review system doesn't permit publication of information contradicting the global warming narrative in your replication crisis journals, the measurements you're referring to were doubtlessly faked in order to gain peer approval

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 06:58:54 2023 No.15838842 >>15817610 Yeah, its weird that all of the important formulas in physics were developed before 1910 or so, how come nobody has come up with any good ones since then?

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 07:33:59 2023 No.15838865

>Mars has more than 20x as much CO2 as Earth

25x times more, but in 1m^3 of atmosphere on surface level not overall. Unfortunately 99% of local soientists are too retarded to calculate that, all they're good at at is reading some shitty reddit articles financed by Klaus Schwab.

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 13:15:52 2023 No.15839070

>>15836413
Serious people did not fall for one word so it indicates the amount of them against shills, idiots ignorants and paid or volunteering propagandists.
Zero as always. Sites like reddit /sci etc. are dumb mainstream and only distinguishable on the amount of tolerated insults.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 13:27:11 2023 No.15839080 >>15838408 That's wrong. Otherwise, the 97% consensus would be a 100% consensus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 13:28:13 2023 No.15839082 >>15790655 >How does dry ice form on the surface of Mars with that massive amount of CO2 in it's atmosphere? Dry ice is solid CO2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 13:30:26 2023 No.15839084 >>15839080 Even in the USSR they pretended that the rigged elections had a small proportion of opposition votes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 14:52:39 2023 No.15839155 >>15839084 Take your meds

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 20:14:13 2023 No.15839537 >>15839082 how come the CO2 doesn't produce an enormous greenhouse effect?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 20:20:18 2023 No.15839548 >>15839537 See for example >>15794312

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 21:17:32 2023 No.15839679 >>15839548 That's not a path you want to go down if you're making the argument for AGW.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 21:53:23 2023 No.15839764 >>15839679 What?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 04:39:50 2023 No.15840303 >>15792905 unfathomably based

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 19:40:44 2023 No.15841382 >>15790836 >do the numbers yourself if you doubt it no, you show us your work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 6 04:13:54 2023 No.15842082 >>15841382 >t. zoomer that can't even add fractions

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 6 14:07:24 2023 No.15842696 >>15842082 lmao you cannot add fractions, you can only multiply them. If you add them, you get a wrong result, like [math]\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{4} \neq \frac{2}{6}[/math]

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 6 20:08:10 2023 No.15843194 >>15790655 N

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 6 23:52:11 2023 No.15843622 >>15842696 >t. zoomer that can't even add fractions

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 6 23:53:01 2023 No.15843624 >>15842696 Please be bait...

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 6 23:56:19 2023 No.15843633 >>15843622 You literally can't. If you think you can, then your the idiot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 08:42:05 2023 No.15844179 >>15795681 If thats true then how come Mars has no greenhouse effect?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 08:44:56 2023 No.15844184 >>15844179 Mars has a greenhouse effect. Next question.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 22:21:14 2023 No.15845240 >>15844184 no it doesn't

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 22:31:08 2023 No.15845258 >>15845240 Wrong. >>15845240

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 23:27:46 2023 No.15845366 >>15845258 Prove it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 05:55:20 2023 No.15845978 File: 64 KB, 953x720, 1686122050677430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15845240 Correct, Mars has no measurable greenhouse effect. If CO2 is a greenhouse gas, it is an extraordinarily weak one

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 06:15:14 2023 No.15846002

>>15845366
>The atmosphere of Mars is colder than Earth's. Owing to the larger distance from the Sun, Mars receives less solar energy and has a lower effective temperature, which is about 210 K (−63 °C; −82 °F).[2] The average surface emission temperature of Mars is just 215 K (−58 °C; −73 °F), which is comparable to inland Antarctica.[2][4]
-> 5°C greenhouse effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Mars..

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 21:01:01 2023 No.15847037 >>15846002 >wikipedia lol, you can't do math so you have to rely on wikipedia's propagandists to tell you the numbers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 21:05:55 2023 No.15847049 >>15847037 Name one incorrect thing on that page.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 21:23:27 2023 No.15847077 >>15847037 You do "the math" then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 07:35:06 2023 No.15847791 >>15846002 >wikipedia pretty much admitting that you have no relevant education or knowledge of the topic

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 10:56:35 2023 No.15847910 >>15847791 Name one incorrect thing on that page.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:38:53 2023 No.15847941 >>15790655 Only ignorant stupid morons believe CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:44:47 2023 No.15847943 >>15847941 Do you even know what a greenhouse gas is?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:44:50 2023 No.15847944 >>15847941 *isn't Sorry, I was phoneposting on the toilet

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:47:14 2023 No.15847949 File: 17 KB, 800x600, smooth_brain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15847910 >>15844184 >>15832534

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:50:05 2023 No.15847954 File: 182 KB, 928x523, waterworld.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15847943 >>15847944 LMAO

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:50:46 2023 No.15847956 >>15847949 So you can't find anything wrong on that page? Great. I'm glad we agree that wikipedia is just fine and that Mars does in fact have a greenhouse effect.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:52:14 2023 No.15847961 >>15847944 >>15847954 So you have no clue what a greenhouse gas is. You should do something about your ignorance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:57:07 2023 No.15847968 >>15847961 No, I corrected my post. CO2 is a greenhouse gas and only ignorant stupid morons believe that it isn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 21:16:56 2023 No.15848796 >>15847941 >Only ignorant stupid morons believe CO2 is a greenhouse gas. this mars would have a massive greenhouse effect if CO2 were actually a greenhouse gas

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 22:03:40 2023 No.15848888 >>15848796 Exactly.

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 06:24:37 2023 No.15849523
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>>15846002
>wikipedia
Guaranteed to be fake.
I looked at that article and it's reference for the equilibrium temperature of Mars is a book called 'Atmospheres' by Richard Goody, page 46
On page 46 of that book it shows that Richard Goody calculated Mars' equilibrium temperature to be 216 K, not 210 K. Mars has no greenhouse effect, wikipedia altered the equilibrium temperature of Mars to make it look like it does in order to trick lackwits that trust wikipedia to be an source of information

https://archive.org/details/atmospheres0000good/page/46/mode/2up

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 07:03:19 2023 No.15849581 >>15849523 Amazing that they just lie blatantly like this and think nobody will notice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 11:46:44 2023 No.15849871 >>15849523 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 11:49:13 2023 No.15849875 >>15849523 Did you correct the article, properly citing your findings?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 11:51:29 2023 No.15849876 >>15849875 If he tries it will get reverted by whoever decided to put that lie on the page.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 11:54:38 2023 No.15849881 >>15849523 >I looked at that article and it's reference for the equilibrium temperature of Mars is a book called 'Atmospheres' by Richard Goody, page 46 Which article? Article [2] simply states the values as the same as Wikipedia w. [4] is a book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 12:00:12 2023 No.15849887 File: 28 KB, 672x174, Screenshot 2023-11-10 at 12.58.01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15849523 Source 4 from Wikipedia.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 14:30:22 2023 No.15850065 >>15849876 The lie is that mars doesn't have a greenhouse effect.

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 16:34:28 2023 No.15850198

>>15850065
>The lie is that mars doesn't have a greenhouse effect.
Dear bot-control, please variate at minimum the wording when you don't know what to do. These insubstantial standard sentences are not very entertaining and do not distract. That is what you want with this site, isn't it so?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 16:51:43 2023 No.15850212 >>15850198 >everyone who isn't a schizophrenic is a robot Oh boy

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 20:48:26 2023 No.15850521

>>15849523
Even if the greenhouse effect on Mars was worth 5 C that would mean that the greenhouse effect on earth due to CO2 couldn't be more than 0.25 C and that atmospheric CO2 on Earth would have to get to over 2000ppm to create a 1 C temperature increase in the greenhouse effect on Earth

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 21:06:00 2023 No.15850543 >>15850521 Nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 21:16:11 2023 No.15850554 >>15850543 You can't argue with the math.

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 21:21:44 2023 No.15850565

>>15850554
You can't argue with the fact that your math is based on carbon dioxide being the only greenhouse gas in the atmosphere and ignoring the positive feedback loop provided by water vapor. How stupid are you? Why don't you try learning about the subject before deciding that you are an expert on it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 21:28:09 2023 No.15850577 >>15850565 Ok now do Venus.

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 21:33:31 2023 No.15850586

>>15850577
Do what to Venus? You want me to list the concentration of greenhouse gasses and the water vapor in the atmosphere of Venus? To what end? You think there's some discrepancy because you don't understand the subject, but decided you're an expert anyway?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 21:45:57 2023 No.15850611 >>15850586 You just outed yourself with that post. Thank you for conceding.

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 22:40:15 2023 No.15850693 [DELETED]

>>15849523
Theres literally no way to get Mars' equilibrium temperature down to 210ºC without altering one of the variables in the equation way out of bounds with measured values. Even as it is, the equation will normally overestimate Mars' reflectivity because few of the people who use it account for the polar caps' position when figuring albedo. The 216ºC number in Goody is at the far low end of the normally quoted values. 220ºC is the most commonly quoted figure, but both are underestimates since the albedo isn't normally figured accurately.
Run the numbers for yourself and see what you get. Its an extremely simple equation, undergrad astronomy students are normally taught it early in their first semester of study. Its all basic geometry and thermodynamics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 23:19:26 2023 No.15850741 >>15850693 This. Belief in global warming turns on ignorance of physics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 01:08:07 2023 No.15850863 >>15850611 You are clearly ignorant of this topic. Why don't you try to actually study it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 01:09:08 2023 No.15850867 >>15850693 >>15850741 Take your meds

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 01:16:14 2023 No.15850882 >>15850867 You sound kind of emotional anon. I think you need to take a break until you can approach this with a rational mind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 01:18:55 2023 No.15850886 >>15850521 >>15850577 >>15850693 https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012AGUFM.P21G..04M/abstract https://www.metlink.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/PhysicsReview25_3_poster.pdf https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0019103516001263

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 01:19:56 2023 No.15850888 >>15850882 The irony.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 01:25:25 2023 No.15850897 >>15850888 Yeah it's ironic that the people who claim to be so pro-science are really the least rational. Oh well. Hopefully they can be helped some day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 01:32:29 2023 No.15850907 >>15850897 Uh huh, and that's why you think you have special knowledge that scientists are unaware of, right? Because you're so rational? Take your meds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 02:42:35 2023 No.15850996 >>15850907 Did you reply to the wrong post or is this some kind of weird delusional thing?

Anonymous Sat Nov 11 03:07:14 2023 No.15851019

>>15850693
>Even as it is, the equation will normally overestimate Mars' reflectivity because few of the people who use it account for the polar caps' position when figuring albedo.
Nobody who runs that equation for Earth ever accounts for the annulus of atmosphere which extends above the solid part of the planet's limb, as a result the equilibrium temperature of our own planet is always substantially underestimated, which in turn dramatically overestimates the greenhouse effect on Earth.
Nice to see some else who is actually familiar with the nuts and bolts of these equations posting on /sci/.

Anonymous Sat Nov 11 03:24:08 2023 No.15851043

>>15851019
It has always struck me as odd that TSI is often calculated as if the earth was basically all flat ground. It's one of those mathematical efficiencies that's good on paper when you're teaching undergrads but bad in practice when you have to actually model things.

Anonymous Sat Nov 11 05:11:51 2023 No.15851154

>>15790655
You are confused about many things OP
1:The polar ice caps on mars are not made of dry ice they are water ice.
2:Mars does not have 20x the amount of CO2 as earth, while the martian atmosphere contains more CO2 than O2 you must remember that Mars's atmospheric pressure is about 1% of earth's at sea level, so far less of any gases than earth by far.
3: Even if Mars were to have more CO2 than earth in it's atmosphere it's also much further from the sun reducing the thermal energy entering into it.
4: The temperature at which things freeze or boil is dependant on atmospheric pressure, water boils at room temperature at low atmospheric pressure for example, as the pressure drops objects both freeze at lower temps and boil at lower temps and the window of temps that the material can exist as a liquid shrinks until being non existent. Objects cannot be liquid in a vacuum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 10:35:53 2023 No.15851508 >>15850693 /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 11:49:21 2023 No.15851579 >>15851154 >The polar ice caps on mars are not made of dry ice they are water ice. No, they're dry ice

Anonymous Sat Nov 11 14:59:26 2023 No.15851731

>>15849581
>and think nobody will notice.
Oh, people do. Just you try to correct this and see what happens. Hint: these editors are autists at the lower end of the spectrum, having all hours of the day to "work" (read: protectt) their world view. When articles in newspapers such as the Guardian overrules articles in Science and Nature, you should know that all is lost.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 15:40:59 2023 No.15851758 >>15849581 You realise that this anon is the one lying?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 16:08:58 2023 No.15851774 >>15850521 Mother of all non-sequiturs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 16:12:32 2023 No.15851778 >>15850554 Can't argue, but you could at least explain the math.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 16:42:03 2023 No.15851809 File: 929 KB, 680x384, Magic_Magnets.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15790655 Without a magnetosphere a rocky planet will almost never keep an atmosphere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 21:44:38 2023 No.15852226 >>15821534 >the aliens want to look like us Just why??

Anonymous Sat Nov 11 21:50:38 2023 No.15852240

>>15803362
>basics
I had a discussion with a warmerista a few eyars ago. I pointed out that Antarctica has winters where the temperature goes so far that CO2 should precipitate as dry ice. At least that is what a normal CO2 phase diagram shows. The rage I was met with was off the scale.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 22:00:36 2023 No.15852247 >>15851758 Source?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 22:05:57 2023 No.15852251 >>15852240 Believe in global warming turns on ignorance of physics and chemistry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 22:55:11 2023 No.15852330 File: 281 KB, 1276x693, sangger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15849523 good find, wikipedia is trash, its all just political propaganda, the whole site is built to trick low iq morons

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 23:13:47 2023 No.15852369 >>15791848 This has to be a shitpost, I refuse to accept you are this stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 23:35:54 2023 No.15852404 >>15852251 I am surprised how easy it has become to dismiss people as conspiracy theorists when they provide sources. I guess this too is part of Kali Yuga.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 08:58:49 2023 No.15853037 >>15849523 lol amazing they lie so blatantly

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 09:18:30 2023 No.15853069 >>15851809 I heard the magnetosphere explanation is a myth or an oversimplification

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 09:19:36 2023 No.15853073 >>15852247 See >>15849887

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 09:53:02 2023 No.15853112 >>15790655 More CO2, sure But how much atmosphere? CO2 isn't a large portion of the atmosphere you know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 23:03:15 2023 No.15854426 >>15853112 CO2 is nearly 100% of the atmosphere on Mars

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 23:42:23 2023 No.15854540 >>15854426 That explains the dry ice at the polecaps.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 09:49:35 2023 No.15855389 >>15852247 'Atmospheres' by Richard Goody, page 46

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 09:59:30 2023 No.15855399 >>15855389 It doesn't say that mars doesn't have a greenhouse effect at all there. Meanwhile, sources have been posted that explicitly state the greenhouse effect as 5K: >>15849887

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 10:07:06 2023 No.15855408 >>15855399 It was explained here >>15850693 why that's misleading.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 10:12:02 2023 No.15855412 >>15855408 Why would I need to run the math? It's been done and cited already: >>15849887 You claim that 220K is normally quoted, yet you have provided zero citations. Meanwhile, citations for 210K were posted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 14:33:24 2023 No.15855695 >>15852240 That's not true at all.

Anonymous Mon Nov 13 17:19:26 2023 No.15855941
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>>15855695
PLease do go on. Pic. from
https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/General_Chemistry/Chemistry_1e_(OpenSTAX)/10%3A_Liquids_and_Solids/10.4%3A_Phase_Diagrams

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 17:24:11 2023 No.15855945 DAE think itt aliens could have solved thirst by now? I mean, whats water to them at that point; Scientifically speaking, how does it work?

Anonymous Mon Nov 13 17:33:13 2023 No.15855959

>>15855941
The absolute lowest temperature ever recorded in Antarctica by any means is -93 C and the partial pressure of carbon dioxide is a small fraction of the atmospheric pressure at 0.03 kPa. If the atmosphere were 100% carbon dioxide then you would be correct. It's 0.04% of the atmosphere and so you're wrong.

Do you enjoy making stuff up or are you just too stupid to analyze whatever you're told?

Anonymous Mon Nov 13 17:42:31 2023 No.15855973

>>15855941
>>15855959
Like fr, all of this shit is in the same textbook you linked and literally every other chemistry book ever written. You should have learned this in high school and you should be ashamed if you didn't and you should be doubly ashamed if you know and are maliciously spreading misinformation.

https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/General_Chemistry/Map%3A_Chemistry_-_The_Central_Science_(Brown_et_al.)/10%3A_Gases/10.06%3A_Gas_Mixtures_and_Partial_Pressures
>The pressure exerted by each gas in a gas mixture is independent of the pressure exerted by all other gases present.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 20:01:42 2023 No.15856201 >>15855959 >>15855973 At least you provided good arguments. The warmeristas just flew into incoherent rage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 20:26:06 2023 No.15856232 >>15856201 Are these “warmeristas” currently in the room with us?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 20:41:18 2023 No.15856256 >>15855959 i would just say let infinity equal zero (hegel's "speculative judgements") and loop the end behavior back to the origin (asymptoto-axiomatically). godspeed pal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 21:53:53 2023 No.15856343 >>15856232 No. They were in another forum. 4ch is often dismissed as the cesspool of the net, yet here is the only place where people go into details.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 22:46:15 2023 No.15856448 >>15856201 Belief in global warming turns on ignorance of math and physics. When confronted with math and physics they become angry because it shows them that they don't know how to come to their own conclusions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 01:43:12 2023 No.15856748 File: 136 KB, 640x512, 1680573327236224.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15810961 >the same soiyence charlatans who alter historical records to fit their global warming narrative

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 14:42:14 2023 No.15857241 >>15856201 No, faggot. Answer me. Do you enjoy making stuff up or are you just too stupid to analyze whatever you're told?

>>	Barkun Tue Nov 14 14:44:48 2023 No.15857243 >>15857241 Come at me retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 16:05:25 2023 No.15857364 >>15791412 They put on a cheap human suit so to not freak out the hairless apes. However, Spacedollar Store humanoid drones are used more often because it's safer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 17:30:40 2023 No.15857511 >>15856343 >yet here is the only place where people go into details. Read this thread. It's full of retards who think that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas. Some of them might just pretend to be retards, which is equally retarded.

Anonymous Tue Nov 14 20:16:33 2023 No.15857857 [DELETED]

>>15857511
CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas, theres no evidence that it is, theres lots of evidence that it isn't. You only believe that it is because your elementary school science teacher says it is and because NPR repeated the lie to you a bunch of times. You've never pulled off any experiments or observations on your own to find out if it is or it isn't, you just choose to believe that it is, when it clearly isn't

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 20:25:08 2023 No.15857868 >>15857857 >You've never pulled off any experiments or observations on your own to find out if it is or it isn't Have you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 00:16:03 2023 No.15858311 >>15857868 so you're admitting that you learned everything you know about climate science from NPR

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 00:42:18 2023 No.15858360 >>15858311 As is usual, yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 00:45:50 2023 No.15858366 >>15790655 The process of a gas turning into a solid is called Deposition. Any other questions?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 00:46:51 2023 No.15858368 File: 364 KB, 750x726, 1699720252239067.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15791848

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 00:47:53 2023 No.15858370 >>15792618 It's dynamo halted early because it's less massive than Earth and Venus

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 00:52:53 2023 No.15858372 >>15858311 Again, have you done experiments yourself? Or have you learnt everything you think you "know" from your mom's yoga teacher?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 00:56:04 2023 No.15858376 >>15857243 I don't like attacking the mentally ill.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 00:57:07 2023 No.15858377 >>15858366 Read the thread. A lot of people here seem to struggle with the concept.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 08:51:06 2023 No.15858960 >>15858360 No, I learned it from a real scientific source, I saw it on the Bill Nye TV show

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 20:34:34 2023 No.15859978 >>15857868 >>15858360 >>15858372 >>15858376 Do the oil shills delete their comments to keep the thread from autosageing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 23:05:48 2023 No.15860448 >>15859978 yeah its a big conspiracy, everyone is out to get you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 00:29:31 2023 No.15860614 >>15857868 So you're saying that you haven't and that all of your proclaimed expertise on global warming results from things you learned watching the Bill Nye TV show.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 00:49:23 2023 No.15860644 >>15859978 It's the mods, but otherwise yes. The mods are /pol/tards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 21:13:40 2023 No.15862839 >>15860614 Thats right, I've never studies physics and I don't understand thermodynamics at all, but all the TV channels are saying the same thing about global warming so it must be true

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 21:44:10 2023 No.15862909 >>15860644 >mods delete anti climate change posts >mods are /pol/ shitters Pick 1

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 22:08:28 2023 No.15862951

>>15790655
The only way that Mars can cool off enough to support the formation of dry ice on it's surface is if there are no greenhouse gasses in it's atmosphere to trap solar heat.
Since Mar's atmosphere is almost 100% CO2 and since Mars has no measurable greenhouse effect, that means that CO2 must not be a greenhouse gas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 22:13:47 2023 No.15862961 >>15805814 attacking the source because you can't debunk the contents of the document

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 00:30:04 2023 No.15863196 >>15862909 They delete some of the posts that break the rules after having left them up for weeks with the aim of keeping the rest of them up for weeks afterwards. They're/pol/tards. If they weren't then they'd delete posts as their reported.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 00:32:08 2023 No.15863204 >>15863196 Yes we get it, it's a huge conspiracy. The mods are surely out to get you. Those posts were definitely breaking the rules by saying inconvenient facts and you deserve to be able to censor them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 00:42:36 2023 No.15863228 >>15863204 Spamming and racism are usually the violations that get the posts deleted. Google "rape ape 4chan mod" and see what you find.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 01:00:13 2023 No.15863259 >>15863228 So there's one simian moderator who deletes innocuous posts for alleged racism and alleged spam but leaves up spammy posts from NGOs?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 01:02:30 2023 No.15863264 >>15863228 >Google a heavy censored propaganda outlet, not a legitimate search engine

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 02:11:34 2023 No.15863392 >>15863259 No, he's the lead moderator who tells the other moderators how to moderate. >>15863264 Then use a different search engine, schizo

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 02:13:02 2023 No.15863394 >>15863392 >No, he's the lead moderator who tells the other moderators how to moderate. And he tells the moderators to delete innocuous posts using allegations of racism and spam as cover for removing things he dislikes. Got it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 02:26:28 2023 No.15863415 >>15863394 The point is to keep propaganda threads bumped, moron. It doesn't matter what posts get deleted for what reason because the goal is to reduce the number of posts in certain threads to keep them from autosaging.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 02:28:28 2023 No.15863418 >>15792866 Space jew

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 03:41:42 2023 No.15863517 >>15863415 >theres a big conspiracy thats out to get me https://www.psycom.net/paranoid-schizophrenia

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 03:49:20 2023 No.15863532 >>15863415 Which is why he only deletes posts that expose the propaganda as false. Good point, now I understand.

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