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James Webb just discovered dozens of Jupiter-sized rogue exoplanets moving in pairs in the Orion Nebula and scientists are struggling to explain them.
Look at the little unexplained fuckers.

>> No.15785233

>>15785221
Obviously ayys who have developed tech that can move planets.

>> No.15785238

>>15785233
First post retarded post

>> No.15785246
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>>15785221
>James Webb just discovered dozens of Jupiter-sized rogue exoplanets moving in pairs in the Orion Nebula and scientists are struggling to explain them. Look at the little unexplained fuckers.

>> No.15785251

>>15785233
>nudge one planet
>it drags the other one
>nudge the other one
>it drags the first one
Clever use of gravitational pull.

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>>15785221
don't say you weren't warned

>> No.15785262

>>15785233
>>15785246
>>15785256
You're in the wrong board.

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>>15785221
Some accumulation of hydrogen but not enough to build a star? Might be useful to slingshot around if we ever develop interstellar travel.

>> No.15785324

>>15785276
That doesn't make any goddamn sense.

>> No.15785351

>>15785324
for you

>> No.15785358

>>15785221
theres alot of binary people now too
how do basedentists explain that?

>> No.15785468

>>15785238
>>15785251
>>15785262
To late ayys, we are onto you. We know about your planed invasion and we will stop you.

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>>15785221
>rogue exoplanets
Kinda redundant term. Can there be rogue planets, that are not exo-?

>> No.15785492

>>15785485
No, because they would fall into a stars gravity. These planets aren't bound by a stars gravity and are just floating around.

>> No.15785501

N

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>>15785221
Left: Hubble CGI
Right: James Webb CGI

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>>15785221
https://youtu.be/UOLLMkAHHQI?t=2477

>> No.15785560

>>15785485
You are correct, assburger.

>> No.15785582

>>15785468
You can't stop what has already happened 4 times, our inception is their hand and we are pawns in a larger game

>> No.15785809

>>15785504
jwst definitely worth it. stop being poor

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>>15785221
this... is not good

>> No.15785844

>>15785221
How far apart are these pairs from each other, also since when can james webb or any other telescopes/detectors etc detect planets? planets are too dim and too small, are the these "bodies" red dwarfs instead?

>> No.15785856

>>15785221
When you're such a planetlet you can't even into brown dwarf mode. Pathetic. NGMI.

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>>15785844
>since when can james webb or any other telescopes/detectors etc detect planets?
Since 2004.
>This composite image shows an exoplanet (the red spot on the lower left), orbiting the brown dwarf 2M1207 (center). 2M1207 b is the first exoplanet directly imaged and the first discovered orbiting a brown dwarf.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_directly_imaged_exoplanets

>> No.15785890

>>15785221
Why do they come in pairs?

>> No.15785901

>>15785890
This is the question I have.

>> No.15786070

>>15785890
Wild guess: the accretion disk holds too much angular momentum for a single planet, but can be maintained when split across two planets.

>> No.15786087

>>15786070
>the accretion disk
Of what? Primordial black holes?

>> No.15786101

>>15785221
Haha, JWST has broken lenses obviously. Same reason they saw the "cosmic string" recently. Fucking lol

>> No.15786104 [DELETED] 

>>15786101
Go back to twiddling your thumbs you dumb nigger

>> No.15786114

>>15786087
Of normal matter that forms the planets but without igniting a star.

>> No.15786293 [DELETED] 

>>15785238
Aww, you were late just by one posts.

>> No.15786296

>>15785238
Aww, you were late just by one post.
Better luck next time kiddo, not go back to stuffing things inside your asshole.

>> No.15786323

>>15786070
I was thinking gas giants from young systems slingshotting themselves out but your idea makes way more sense, and would be easier to test.

>> No.15786426

>>15785221
These mf's are producing a lot of light, they might be brown dwarfs and not planets, no?

>> No.15786437

>>15785221
These frauds can't be surprised. They have known that their science is bunk and that data was going to destroy all of their noise-based models. We assumed a statistical reality, absolutely nobody can be surprised that our 10^-100000 guess was wrong.

>> No.15786442

>>15785221
100% the technician didn't clean the lenses properly or something stupid like that

>> No.15786458

>>15786442
This would've been the case if those things did not move with time, and in a synchronic fashion.
It's either some sort of gravitational lensing or the first example of twin planets and not a planet and a satellite.

>> No.15786544

>>15785221
>NASA
>BBC
yep, its fake 100% guaranteed

>> No.15787128

>>15785221
One of these Jupiter-sized planets is going to hit the Earth isn't it?

>> No.15787185

what kind of sausage are they made out of?

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>>15785256
Is that Papa Nurgle?

>> No.15787252

>>15785221
It's not really that difficult to explain. The same processes that create stars can also create brown dwarfs and failed brown dwarfs that are basically gas giants. Wow. So mysterious. This surely requires some other explanation.

>> No.15787261

>>15786544
nasa can't even tell the difference between a man and a woman, they're way too retarded to do science

>> No.15787268

>>15785221
How do they tell those from the kuiper bell objects, and such?

>> No.15787274

>>15787268
red shift and light spectrum measurements

>> No.15787279

>>15785221
dark matter solved then.
turns out it's just a bunch of Jupiters.

>> No.15787297

>>15787274
>t. low iq

>> No.15787311

>>15787274
I don't see how either could work in this case

>> No.15787330

>>15787252
When is your paper coming out, Dr. D. Kruger?

>> No.15787336

>>15787311
What do you mean? That is how all astronomical distance measurements are made. Well, you also have parallax but that only works for nearby objects - but that actually excludes these jumbos being close.

>> No.15787350

If the ayys sent these Jupiter size double planets to collide with Earth is there any way for us to stop it?

>> No.15787351

>>15787330
>butthurt he can't come up with a counterargument
I can say whatever I like and you are free to disagree. With a real argument.

>> No.15787365

>>15787351
I'm free to call you a self-aggrandizing retard, which is what you are.

>> No.15787371

>>15785844
> also since when can james webb or any other telescopes/detectors etc detect planets
The 1990s
> are the these "bodies" red dwarfs instead?
the smallest dwarfs aren't actually all that much bigger than jupiter or brown dwarfs

>>15787365
You're also free to be something other than massive cum guzzling faggot, but for some reason you decide not too.

>> No.15787471

>>15787336
>That is how all astronomical distance measurements are made.
It isn't.
>Well, you also have parallax but that only works for nearby objects - but that actually excludes these jumbos being close.
They are actually well within the distance where it should be possible.

>> No.15787475

>>15787252
Basically binary brown dwarf star systems, yeah

>> No.15787924

>>15785233
Planet moving tech is relatively simple on the extreme technology scale, especially if the planets are not only similar to Jupiter in mass but additionally in composition (hydrogen gas planet)

>> No.15788033

The ayys are building these rogue double planets for interstellar and intergalactic travel. No need to build some shitty multigeneration colony ship when you can travel in comfort and luxury by using an entire Jupiter-like system to travel around in. You can generate all the energy you need to sustain the travelling civilization just from tidal forces in the planets' moons.

>> No.15788421 [DELETED] 

>>15787336
you have no idea how any of this works, you're just another ifls pseud

>> No.15789003

>>15785485
>he doesn't know about the rogue planet swarm inside our system

>> No.15789005

>>15785582
>everything that has happened 4 times will happen at least 1 additional time
Incorrect.

>> No.15789017

>>15785485
Exoplanet is the real redundant term. Using "planet" to only refer to planets inside our solar system is retarded. It's like saying the Sun is the only regular star and all others are "exostars".

>> No.15789020

>>15785221
Because space (as we are taught) is 100% fake.
There's things going on up there in "space" but none of it is what they say it is.
They have never sent a lander or astronauts to another planet/moon as claimed.
All fake.

>> No.15789021

>>15785221
All those "planets" and other objects that are "MILLIONS OF LIGHT YEARS AWAY GOYIM!" are actually all less than 50,000 miles away, in some cases as little as 3,000.

The moon is only 30 miles in diameter and 3000 miles away. The sun is also exactly the same size and distance away as the moon.

>> No.15789088

>>15789020
>>15789021
meds, immediately
or go back >>>/x/

>> No.15789110

>>15789021
>The sun is also exactly the same size
It's not exactly, it's slightly off and it changes, which is what spoils your entire glownigger schizo-op.

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>>15785221
Oy vey, never forget the dozens of jupiters exiled from their solar systems

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>>15785221
>JuMBOs

>> No.15789524

>>15786458
>twin planets
These wouldn't be planets because they didn't orbit a star and they didn't clear their local orbit

>> No.15789862

>>15787252
this

>> No.15789939

>>15787252
Yes but those planets should still be bound to a stars gravity. That is what the mystery is, it isn't that they exist it is the fact that are rogue.

>> No.15789990

>>15786070
that does make a lot of sense

>> No.15789999

>barely know what shit is out there in the universe
>act surprise when we find shit out there
they'd act surprised too if they found nothing. everything is surprising to brainlet basedientists

>> No.15790016

>>15785821
space marines dont eat goyslop subversive little shit

>> No.15790209

>>15785358
>>15785504
>>15786101
>>15786437
>>15786442
>>15786544
>>15789020
>>15789021
>>15789124
>>15789999
>>15790016
Paid troll moment

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>exoplanets
>in the Orion nebula

>> No.15790228

>muh soience fiction star wars space travel fantasy life is totally real guys
>comic books are true stories

>> No.15790237

>>15790228
>Poster number doesn't change
Keep going bro. You'll eventually get those 50 cents.

>> No.15790380

Let me guess, they need funding again?

>> No.15790697

>>15785221
>Look upon my works ye mighty and despair
>t. Byron, 1818
these are quite obviously the chariots of the gods

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>>15790209

>> No.15790994

>>15790701
It's not that they disagree, but because they are obviously shitty comments, that seem to be posted in malice and not serious attempts to argue anything.

>> No.15791003

>>15789939
Not necessarily. You are thinking that stars are required for gravitational processes to work, which is an absurdity. Gravity can cause clouds of hydrogen to coalesce, but this doesn't necessarily have to be enough to cause fusion. This is literally what a brown dwarf is, but you can go even lower than that and just get what is effectively a gas giant. Take the main sequence, and just start adding non-stars to it.

>> No.15791016

>>15785221
So if all these giant planets are just drifting around freely in space what's to keep them from approaching our solar system? This possibility is horrifying like Hellstar Remina for real. Have they measured the actual velocity vectors of these things yet to see if any of them care coming at us?

>> No.15791040

>$88 billion for a fake picture of dots

>> No.15791042

>>15791016
Nothings stopping them but generally theyre all moving around the galaxy just like our sun

>> No.15791050

>>15791042
This may be the answer to the Fermi Paradox. When the ancient ayy civilization that dominates the milky way galaxy detects a new upstart civilization like us they send these Jupiter size things to suck up the new civilization's planet. Imagine Earth being absorbed into Jupiter. It would just swallow us up with no trace left.

>> No.15791056

>>15791050
That's a round about way of doing it and it would take thousands of years for these fuckers to arrive

>> No.15791070

>>15791056
The ancient ayy civilization that's been around for billions of years always plans for the long term. A few thousand years is fine since there's not enough time for our technology to evolve enough to stop two Jupiter-sized planets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whIJRZB_dfc

>> No.15791073

>>15791070
>A few thousand years is fine since there's not enough time for our technology to evolve enough to stop two Jupiter-sized planets.
Bold assoomptions

>> No.15791082

>>15791073
In a few thousand years we'll have terraformed Mars and maybe started on Venus. Probes and colonization missions will have reached stars within 100 light years from Earth maybe. No way we're moving gas giants around that soon. Likely need to become a type 2-3 civilization first.

>> No.15791090

>>15791082
>muh soience fiction fantasy life that was programmed into my brain via Star Wars moooovies
ur low iq, ur brain is made out of hollywood goyslop

>> No.15791092

>>15785221
could this explain dark matter?

>> No.15791122

>>15791082
>we'll have terraformed Mars and maybe started on Venus
Then you just made the ayy attack irrelephant
Just go live in mars

>>15791092
They're very quiet on this. Unusally even.

>> No.15791128

>>15791122
>Then you just made the ayy attack irrelephant
>a pair of co-orbiting Jupiters pass through the inner solar system
>mars is unaffected
anon i don't think mars is going to come through this unscathed

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>>15791128
Why you gotta be so negative man

>> No.15791195

>>15791140
If rogue planets are common one of those suckers could show up at any time and we would have very little warning. JWST can only detect these Jumbos because they are relatively hot. As it is we can barely detect Earth-sized planets even as close as the Kuiper belt. Smaller and colder rogue expolanets could easily approach undetected until it is too late to do anything. It's hard not to be pessimistic. Time to watch Melancholia again.

>> No.15791215

>>15791092
No. People considered rogue planets, low mass stars and black holes, they were an obvious possibility early on. To measure their abundance people set up gravitational microlensing experiments. If there were enough of these things in the Galactic halo to be dark matter they would be abundant, and some would pass in front of stars lensing the background star temporarily. These campaigns have spanned decades, and the result is nowhere near enough objects to explain dark matter (normal stars and planets were detected). As a result of these constraints dark matter cannot be rouge planers over a very wide range in mass. Additionally to fit evidence in the CMB and early universe fusion dark matter cannot be normal matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_compact_halo_object