/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15781502]

apologize

[Anonymous No.15781507]

>thinks the Arctic is an iceberg and not a landmass.
heh, idiots.

[Anonymous No.15782852]

>>15781507
>the arctic is a landmass
its an ocean

[Anonymous No.15782895]

You should apologize you unoriginal faggot.

[Anonymous No.15783021]

>>15781507
Antarctic and Greenland.

>>15782852
you know he meant.

[Anonymous No.15783149]

"In contrast, sea ice is formed on water, is much thinner (typically less than 3 m (9.8 ft)), and forms throughout the Arctic Ocean. It is also found in the Southern Ocean around the continent of Antarctica."

[Anonymous No.15784248]

>>15783021
>you know he meant.
my presumptions is that >>15781507
meant to indicate to us that he is so ignorant and low iq that he can't communicate effectively

[Anonymous No.15784433]

>>15781502
1. Ice bergs are fresh water. Because of this, melting actually still causes the water level to rise.
2. Some ice is not floating, but is sitting on land.

[Anonymous No.15784445]

>>15781502
If you heat up the water it expands making the sea level rise.

[Anonymous No.15784556]

>>15784445
>>15784445
There is more land mass now than 200 years ago. Of course, when you search it you'll get hits for "sea level rise" which goes to derail from the fact.

Watch the bullshit movie by Al-Gore "An Unconveniant Truth" and tell me if that corelates with the status quo.
He bought 2 mansions by the sea.

[Anonymous No.15784587]

>>15781502
Melting icebergs discharged from an ice shelf does not increase sea level. Ice shelf by definition already floats on ocean.

However, iceberg discharges reduce the buttressing effect of ice shelf, which in turns allow ice sheets that previously sits on top of land, either in Antarctica or Greenland to flow further into the ocean. This increase sea level.

In your jug of ice analogy, melting ice that is already floating inside the jug does not increase the volume and level. But ADDING ice cubes, i.e., melting ice sheet does increase the water level.

[Anonymous No.15784890]

>>15784587
once the weight of ice is removed from the land, the land expands

if what you're saying is true then why isn't sea level rising?

[sage No.15784916]

>>15781502
Most of the ice that will melt is above land, meaning it doesn't displace water until after it melts

[Anonymous No.15784930]

>>15784890
It’s risen 9 cm in 25 years. The primary contributor to this is meltwater.

[Anonymous No.15784933]

>>15781502
>glaciers don't exist the ice is all in the ocean already goy
kill yourself petrokike

[Anonymous No.15786310]

>>15784916
source?

[Anonymous No.15786416]

>>15784933
You are the petrokike. You don't even realize that global warming is a red herring set up by the oiligarchs to ensure science is always stupid and incredible. In this manner, it never has explanatory power and always promises doomsday. It is a classic action-reaction pairing where science is always on the losing foot.
There has never been such a thing as climate change, as global warming, and man made global warming. There has only ever been intermittently unseasonable weather. Nut jobs and cons are the only ones pushing doomer propaganda as usual. Embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.15786427]

>>15781502
>>15781507
>>15782852
the big red pill, is that the land can also subside if water is gone and land becomes heavier above it.
it's basic gravity.

[Anonymous No.15786430]

>>15786427
it's probably the main reason ice melts but beaches look similar.

[Anonymous No.15787086]

>>15786427
gretafags are too dumb to realize the land stops being compressed and expands when the heavy ice on top of it melts away.
the virtue signaling sjw environmentalists never know anything about nature

[Anonymous No.15787412]

>>15781502
Congratulations. Every toddler knows this.
Now do it with adding loads of ice, just like what would happen if the southern polar caps or the Greenland glaciers (that don’t swim, they are on land) melt.

[Anonymous No.15787648]

>>15784587
picrel
what is the heat source? sun? volcanism?
does current prevent heat from rising? or is negligible,

[Anonymous No.15788392]

>>15784930
How much total ice was melted and added to the ocean level? How much total ice melted and did not add to the ocean level?
Seems fake. Where is picture of 9 cm rise?
How much has global warming increased the volume of water?

[Anonymous No.15788795]

>>15788392
nobody can show you pictures of sea level rising as a result of glaciers melting, but finding pictures of sea level falling for that reason is fairly simple.

[Anonymous No.15789031]

>>15786416
yep ancient babylon and shit were railing on about le climate change in their ancient tablets too its literally a classic ancient control tactic

[Anonymous No.15789425]

>>15786310

[Anonymous No.15789436]

>>15781502
most of sea riseeffect is caused by volumic thermal dilation of water, retard.

[Anonymous No.15789438]

>>15781502
most of sea rise effect is caused by volumic thermal dilation of water, retard.
also antarctic / russian / greenland Ice is not immersed in water right now, but it will be when molten.

[Anonymous No.15789440]

>>15781507
>thinks the Arctic is an iceberg and not a landmass.
are you OP replying to himself?
the Arctic is not a landmass you idiot, but the Antarctic continent is.

[Anonymous No.15789785]

>>15789440
nta, contributing with a little copy pasta
source: WorldAtlas

What Is the Arctic?

A frequently asked question is why the Antarctic is considered a continent while the Arctic is not, yet they are both polar regions of the earth. The answer lies in the definition of a continent. The keyword when defining a continent is the term “landmass.” The Arctic or the North Pole is a sea surrounded by land while the Antarctic or the South Pole is a landmass surrounded by sea. The Antarctic, therefore, meets the criteria to be considered a continent while the Arctic does not. The Antarctic is the fifth largest continent with an area of about 5.5 million square miles, but it is the least populated with about 1,000 people due to the extremely low temperature.

>>15787648
>picrel
>what is the heat source? sun? volcanism?
>does current prevent heat from rising? or is negligible,
anyone?

[Anonymous No.15790396]

>>15789785
Only a thousand people and still some retard running around out there with a fitbit

[Anonymous No.15790412]

>>15789785
>source: globohomo gobbledygook
>The Arctic or the North Pole is a sea
its an ocean

>The Antarctic is the fifth largest continent with an area of about 5.5 million square miles, but it is the least populated with about 1,000 people due to the extremely low temperature.
>due to the extremely low temperature.
it's got low population because the various governments of the world all colluded to make the continent off limits to human settlement other that their own militaries and their other subservient organizations.
kerguelen is the least populated continent.

[Anonymous No.15790514]

>>15784433
First effect, while true, is minimal and irrelevant

[Anonymous No.15790550]

>>15790514
Let's see your calculations

[Anonymous No.15791083]

>>15790550
you can't do the math yourself

[Anonymous No.15791093]

>>15791083
you can link a shitty blogpost or something
you're basing your opinion on some sort of calculation, right?

[Anonymous No.15791214]

>>15789425
bro that chunk of frozen water would make for the best icebong ever

[Anonymous No.15791273]

>>15781502
Phew, good thing there is no ice above the surface of the ocean

[Anonymous No.15791465]

>>15787648
>>15789785
Have you tried googling what's written in the image?

[Anonymous No.15791488]

>>15781502
is this real??

[Anonymous No.15791492]

>>15787648
I’m an amateur who simply reads a lot so take the following with a grain of salt. The heat comes from many different places. Acidification of the ocean, heat trapped in the atmosphere by carbon, the sun, emissions from cargo vessels, algal blooms, global ocean currents, sub-surface currents underneath the ice shelves, methane clathrates, plate tectonics, the list goes on. the earth’s climate is a chaotic and complex system, it’s not comprable to the scizo anon’s experiment of making a plastic vaccum box and piping 400ppm of CO2 in it.

[Anonymous No.15791508]

>>15791492
Actually, the heat just comes from surface currents further north. I'd suspect the biggest factors are contact with the air and solar irradiation.

[Anonymous No.15791512]

>>15791508
>ackshually, your nuanced and complex explanation is wrong because I think it’s JUST the one thing I find most important
ngmi

[Anonymous No.15791573]

>>15791492
Thanks for posting. Appreciate your insight.

[Anonymous No.15791689]

>>15791573
no prob. btw I should add that melting glaciers aren’t just an effect of “heat”, although that’s part of it. a lot of it is just erosion, but when ice shelves are eroded it can cause land ice to move into the sea at a shockingly rapid pace, as >>15784587
stated. you can even see in that picture the way the ice shelf extends into the water, subsurface currents basically shove their way into parts of the glacier and create channels that suck warm water out of the ocean and accelerate erosion of the glacier. it helps if you imagine ice shelves as natural dams, and glaciers as the fuckton of water behind it.

[Anonymous No.15791697]

>>15791512
>the more complex the explanation, the better
>disregard retarded ideas like ships or plate tectonics warming the ocean

[Anonymous No.15791773]

>>15791697
>ignores post above his that says it isn’t just heat
>reductio ad absurdum
ngmi

[Anonymous No.15791841]

>>15791689
Very interesting, water eroding ice. The whole is complicated by many factors and a dynamic process. Erosion is neat because scale is irrelevant. A mountainside can look much the same as a washout with a little imagination.

[Anonymous No.15791853]

>>15791841
imagine being this insecure about being a midwit. just go back to the porn boards and cry about BBC. at least you’ll bust a nut that way instead of sucking mine all day

[Anonymous No.15791868]

>>15791773
>get called out for talking bullshit
>react in Latin

[Anonymous No.15791914]

>>15791868
>browses /sci/
>doesn’t understand latin
ngmi, also
>>15791853
verification not required

[Anonymous No.15791962]

>>15782895
Fuck you. Get back to the 1 = 1 thread.

[Anonymous No.15791978]

>>15791914
>gets called out for his midwit latinism
>thinks it's because others don't understand extremely common Latin phrases, not because they think you're a Fedora-tipping faggot

[Anonymous No.15791998]

>>15791978

[Anonymous No.15792060]

>>15791998
Update your npc firmware, your replies are from 2007.

[Anonymous No.15792065]

>>15792060
no thanks, clearly the version you’re on is bugged to shit

[Anonymous No.15792067]

>>15792065
>no u
Another vintage meme

[Anonymous No.15792070]

>>15792067
only the best for the bastard son of the bitch I’m fuckin

[Anonymous No.15792078]

>>15781502
The ocean level should actually go down after the ice melts because the lightest part of it has dissipated into the sky to become rain.

[Anonymous No.15792079]

>>15781502
> You may ascertain this in the following manner: If in winter you will pour water by measure into a vessel and expose it to the open air until it is all frozen, and then on the following day bring it into a warm situation where the ice will thaw, if you will measure the water again when dissolved you will find it much less in quantity. This is a proof that the lightest and thinnest part is dissipated and dried up by the congelation, and not the heaviest and thickest, for that is impossible: wherefore I hold that waters from snow and ice, and those allied to them, are the worst of any for all purposes whatever. Such are the characters of rain-water, and those from ice and snow.

[Anonymous No.15792592]

>>15781502
When did we last time measured, if earth's magnetic core cooling is working correctly? Like literally magnetic cooling should happen to water, if it's not it's bad. Problem is, all measured temperatures in global warming are from ground, when we take thermal capacity of water in the ocean in equation, it kept problems from being seen and we are already so fucking fucked that we should work on our hydrosphere, because we can get in teperatures of air, when even wet air is dry as fuck. (same amount of water in the air, much lower humidity, air is a solvent for water vapour.)

[Anonymous No.15792871]

>>15791273
that ice is all floating

[Anonymous No.15792888]

>>15792871
works cited:

[Anonymous No.15792903]

>>15792079
>>15792592
>>15792871
Someone forgot to take their meds.

[Anonymous No.15792904]

>>15792903
Read this link.

http://classics.mit.edu/Hippocrates/airwatpl.8.8.html

[Anonymous No.15792924]

>>15792903
I mean, it is common sense. The light part goes up to the sky as rain leaving only the heavy parts and sediments.

[Anonymous No.15792940]

>>15792904
I read the link and I don't feel enlightened. Might open it and read the linked website later though.

[Anonymous No.15792941]

>>15792924
Are you talking about fractionation?

[Anonymous No.15793830]

>>15781502
>apologize
I'm sorry that the education system failed you anon

[Anonymous No.15794216]

>oh no, the glaciers that formed during the 600 year long little ice age are melting
>this is definitely caused by parents driving their children to soccer practice and not just a natural effect of the conditions that caused the little ice age ending.
>we need to give up all of the accoutrements of civilization and go back to living in the stone age to save muh precious glaciers
why are glaciers so sacred anyway?
is there a scientific explanation?

[Anonymous No.15794972]

>>15784587
>www.globalwarmingshill.org
nice source on that image. its fake af

[Anonymous No.15794993]

wtf i love industrials now

[Anonymous No.15795003]

>>15787086
What happens to the land in Florida and Netherlands when the ice caps melt?

[Anonymous No.15795044]

>>15794216
This but unironically
Fuck glaciers

[Anonymous No.15795074]

>>15795003
Build dikes or perish.

[Anonymous No.15795098]

OP is posting facebook memes that he doesn't even believe and you faggots are still arguing about it

[Anonymous No.15795200]

>>15781502
I know that OP is just meming, but was this image originally created unironically or was it always just a shitpost?

[Anonymous No.15795314]

>>15795200
I am not memeing. This is a direct result of mods force sliding the first thread. You will see this thing for a very very long time because they disabled bumping.

[Anonymous No.15795317]

>>15792940
Ice melts.
Water level is lower after ice melts
This is because the heavier part of the ice became water but the lightest part evaporated and went up to the clouds/ became rain.


Hope I could simplify things for an illiterate!

[Anonymous No.15795898]

>ice (((((((berg))))))

[Barkun No.15795900]

>>15795317
I am like you

[Anonymous No.15795907]

>>15795314
>a very very long time
Yet it will still somehow take you longer to understand that there is ice on land, not just in the water, and that you can put ice over the cup's level and it will make a mess when it melts.

[Anonymous No.15797163]

>>15795907
>what is isostatic rebound
the earth is not a rigid surface, flat earth is just a meme. real earth is a crust that floats on molten magma.

[Anonymous No.15797204]

>>15795900
Well actually Hippocrates but okay. If you do the experiment it checks out. Freeze water and then unfreeze it and there will be less water than before you froze it.

[Anonymous No.15797262]

>>15797163
Doesn't change the fact that if land ice melts, it adds to the water in the ocean which isn't accounted for in OP's picture.

[Anonymous No.15797284]

>>15781502
I apologize for raping your mother and letting you be born.

[Anonymous No.15797484]

>>15797262
but it takes up less space than if it was solid on land, the water goes down because ice is less dense than water

[Anonymous No.15797488]

>>15797484
But it takes up more space in the ocean if it is in the ocean instead of frozen on land, the measuring cup picture does not account for land surrounding the body of water, it only accounts for the ice in the ocean.

[Anonymous No.15797514]

>>15797488
no because the weight or mass of water than was pushing down on the land and displacing water by archimedes' principle is no longer adding weight to the land onto the water but instead has become a part of the volume of water

[Anonymous No.15797516]

>>15797514
Tectonic plates are not floating on ocean water, they are sitting on earth's mantle.

[Anonymous No.15797527]

>>15794216
Nothing is sacred to city dwellers like yourself

[Anonymous No.15797530]

>>15797516
have you ever been below the mantle?
it's water not lava
why do you think geysers exist?
the land floats on a layer of water, under the layer of water is another crust, and under that is a layer of lava

[Anonymous No.15797537]

>>15797530
>have you ever been below the mantle?
I just posted the pic.

>it's water not lava
No, its mantle.

>why do you think geysers exist?
Because the water is in the crust and above the mantle, so its easy to bring to the surface.

>the land floats on a layer of water
No, the picture posted shows you what is on top of what and it doesn't show anything you describe.

[Anonymous No.15797540]

>>15797530
OP's image doesn't account for any of that.

[Anonymous No.15797554]

>>15797530
Least schizophrenic /sci/ poster

[Anonymous No.15797581]

>>15781502
Bodies of water expand when heated. Oceans are pretty massive.

[Anonymous No.15797587]

>>15797581
No, water is the exception to that rule since ice expands otherwise water life would freeze to death without the surface expanding as it freezes.

[Anonymous No.15797592]

>>15797587
Least retarded /sci/ poster

[Anonymous No.15797593]

>>15797587
The exception only applies between 0°C and 4°C, where water expands as it cools down. For every other temperature range, it expands as it's heated.

[Anonymous No.15797612]

>>15797537
that's just a drawing, you haven't been below the mantle, you haven't seen below the mantle, no one has.

[Anonymous No.15797621]

>>15781507
>retard confuses the artic with antartica
most onland ice is greenland and antartica

[Anonymous No.15797627]

>>15794216
nigger those glaciers have been there for millions of years, infact theyve been there so long they carved a glacier channel

[Anonymous No.15798286]

>>15797627
the n word is racist

[Anonymous No.15798783]

>>15797581
so you're saying that the lack of observed sea level rise is more proof that global warming is a false narrative?

[Anonymous No.15798805]

>>15797612
Then you can't be correct either since you clearly haven't seen it either.

[Anonymous No.15798806]

>>15798783
Your claim of a lack of sea level rise is more proof that global warming deniers will lie about everything.

[Anonymous No.15800126]

>>15798806
sea level isn't rising

[Anonymous No.15800579]

>>15800126
Its falling

[Anonymous No.15800593]

>>15800579
Scandinavia is raising much faster than the sea level. That's not true for other parts of the world.

[Anonymous No.15801069]

>>15798805
nice hypothesis but you can't experimentally confirm that

[Anonymous No.15801473]

>>15800593
sea level is falling in canada, russia & scandinavia and its not rising anywhere in the rest of the world so on average sea level is falling globally

[Anonymous No.15801477]

>>15801473
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.15802029]

>>15800593
Sea level isn't rising anywhere, if it was we'd have been spammed to death with the pictures by "online activists" ages ago

[Anonymous No.15802121]

>>15802029
Well, the "online activists" that have time to spam shit on Facebook are typically unemployed and post nonsense like the one with the Statue of Liberty and the angry Greta. That doesn't mean trat the facts aren't out there.

[Anonymous No.15802399]

>>15781502
They should apologise. Every educated person knows ice expands and is less dense than water. They should also apologise for calling CO2 a greenhouse gas.

[Anonymous No.15803562]

>>15802121
Facebook is highly censored and doesn't permit posts that contradict the standardized MSM message. You would be happier there or on Reddit than you are here.
Seeing people post their ideas and opinions without heavy handed censorship here on 4chan clearly upsets you. Why do you force yourself to look at 4chan when doing so angers and frustrates you so badly? Especially given that there are oodles of censored, protected online safe spaces such as Reddit and Facebook available to emotionally fragile people such as yourself.
If you could just bring yourself to stop using 4chan you would never have to see the wrongthink that angers you again, wouldn't that be a lot more pleasant for you?

[Anonymous No.15803569]

>>15803562
So many words and so little point

[Anonymous No.15803583]

>>15803562
Are you kidding? Facebook is the home of one million retarded boomer conspiracies. /pol/ is 99% bullshit regurgitated from facebook. The only thing they bother to censor is gore and CP

[Anonymous No.15803590]

Just don't live near the coast, idiots

[Anonymous No.15803595]

>>15803583
>I'm an expert of /pol/ and Facebook
you must spend a lot of time on both to have such expertise

[Anonymous No.15803599]

>>15803595
It doesn't take long to get the idea

[Anonymous No.15804769]

>>15803595
I have never looked at Fakebook, not once in all it's history.

Anyone here old enough to remember when the conventional wisdom was to not give out personal Information on the internet?
Or are you all a bunch of zoomers who are so desperate to talk about yourselves that you'll take any opportunity to do so and throw caution to the wind every time?

[Anonymous No.15805234]

>>15802121
>The OMG the world is coming to an end because of global warming institute
nice source, surely a bunch of people who make their living shilling global warming hysteria would never publish dishonest data and graphics.

[Anonymous No.15805446]

>>15805234
Show honest data. Bonus points for not just showing photographs that completely ignore the tides.

[Anonymous No.15805566]

>>15781502
>Ocean Level Remains The Same

[Anonymous No.15806184]

>>15805446

[Anonymous No.15806458]

>>15806184
Try again.
https://blog.indecol.no/climate-sceptic-talking-point-published-by-statistics-norway/

[Anonymous No.15807628]

>>15806458

[Anonymous No.15807634]

>>15807628
Try again.
>The Lavoisier Group is an Australian organisation formed by politicians and dominated by retired industrial businesspeople and engineers.

[Anonymous No.15808379]

>>15807634
>ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!

[Anonymous No.15809635]

[Anonymous No.15809983]

>>15781502
fill the cups to the brim, then melt ice above them.
That is the effect you are looking for, as icebergs come from melting glaciers which start on land and end up in the water.

[Anonymous No.15810433]

>>15808379
It literally is. It's not even well hidden.

[Anonymous No.15811672]

>>15810433
>this academic publication says that academics are right about everything and that the entire world is evil and conspiring against academia
schizo as fuck
>the mainstream media is conspiring against the global warming narrative
lol
the media has been shilling global warming since the 1980s, even fox shills that junk. every time weather anywhere is slightly abnormal, the awesome power of global warming is what caused it according to them
meanwhile the weather isn't any more warm, cold erratic or prone to extremes than it was in the 1980s when the global warming agenda was first announced

[Anonymous No.15811806]

>>15811672
>every time weather anywhere is slightly abnormal, the awesome power of global warming is what caused it according to them
That's a lie and you know it.

[Anonymous No.15812138]

>>15811672
Are you a shill or a useful idiot? Why don't you try googling "organized climate change denial campaigns" and see what comes up?

[Anonymous No.15813139]

>>15812138
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_activism#Environmental_activism

[Anonymous No.15813145]

>>15813139
I read that and I don't get your point. Activists exist, was that new to you?

[Anonymous No.15814255]

>>15811806
name a major weather event so far this century that hasn't been blamed on global warming

[Anonymous No.15815368]

[Anonymous No.15816001]

>>15815368
Its over for Greta

[Anonymous No.15816025]

>>15809983
but when the ice melts it shrinks becuase water is more dense, so less space is needed for the water/ice, so the level goes down

[Anonymous No.15817104]

>>15810433
>sociology

[Anonymous No.15817749]

>>15815368
wtf Greta is based now?

[Anonymous No.15817755]

>>15810433
lmao this brainlet is unironically posting sociology papers

[Anonymous No.15817759]

>>15814255
>that hasn't been blamed on global warming
Every single one of them? It's always
>attribution of individual events is impossible, however without global warming, such an event would occur once every x years, but our models predict that the frequency will increase to once every y to z years

[Anonymous No.15818806]

>>15817749

[Anonymous No.15819218]

>>15817749
absolutely based.

[Anonymous No.15819240]

>>15815368
wtf i love greta now

[Anonymous No.15820014]

>>15817749
she was always a terrorist
>the world is going to come to an end if you don't do as I say

[Anonymous No.15821003]

>>15797627
>those glaciers have been there for millions of years
they weren't
greenland didn't even have an ice cap 400,000 years ago

[Anonymous No.15822148]

>>15821003
The global warming narrative is shilled exclusively by ignorant low IQs

[Anonymous No.15822151]

>>15821003
>greenland didn't even have an ice cap 400,000 years ago
It barely had one 1200 years ago. When it was first discovered in the medieval period by the vikings it was nice and pleasant on the coasts with only some glaciation in the highest parts.

[Anonymous No.15822672]

>>15822151
The Greenland ice sheet is currently accumulating mass

[Anonymous No.15822678]

>>15822672
Come on, the last attempt of this was 2 days ago. No one is going to get bamboozled by you.
>>/sci/thread/15819110

>The map illustrates how the surface of the Greenland Ice Sheet gains and loses mass on a daily basis. This difference between snowfall and runoff is known as the SURFACE mass balance It is always positive over the course of a year as not all fallen snow runs off the ice sheet again.

>The surface mass balance is NOT identical to the TOTAL mass balance (i.e. overall gain or loss of the ice cap), which also includes the mass that is lost when glaciers calve off icebergs, the melting of glacier tongues as they come into contact with warm seawater and frictional and other effects at the bottom of the ice sheet.

[Anonymous No.15823713]

>>15822672
The new ice age is approaching

[Anonymous No.15824485]

>>15822151
Greenland was a lot warmer back then, 6-8ºC warmer. They were farming and raising cattle there, which isn't really possible currently.

[Anonymous No.15824487]

>>15824485
>greenland was warm, therefore the whole world was warm
The reasoning of a retard.

[Anonymous No.15824489]

>>15824485
>>15824487
>Greenland was warm, therefore this is the same as modern global warming

[Anonymous No.15825767]

>>15824487
>Greenland has cooled off by 6-8ºC over the past 1000 years, thats why global warming is real

[Anonymous No.15826368]

>>15825767
same goes for antarctica

[Anonymous No.15827503]

>>15788392
>Where is picture of 9 cm rise?
there are none
>How much has global warming increased the volume of water?
none

[Anonymous No.15828932]

>>15827503
>How much has global warming increased the volume of water?
that question presumes global warming is real, which it isn't

[Anonymous No.15829041]

>>15781502
200 million year old ice so there is 200 million years of water in it please understand

[Anonymous No.15829045]

>>15828932
Seriously. Why do you spam this board with these shit threads? There were a few actually interesting threads on page 1 before you came here.

[Anonymous No.15829051]

>>15829045
I don't know why you're not interested in the study of climate science, but if you aren't then you don't need to read them.

[Anonymous No.15829592]

>>15829051
people who get angry at the quality of content on user generated content sites like 4chan lack the self awareness to realize that end users generate all the content on the site and that if the content upsets them then they are personally responsible for that.
if other types of threads are better then just post them and the board's mechanics will make the lesser threads go away. acting like you're personally entitled to good content when you don't contribute any good content yourself is irrational, /sci/ is not a tv show, nobody is being paid to deliver good threads

[Anonymous No.15829819]

>>15784587
>thinning and recession
THE ICE MAN IS BALDING

[Anonymous No.15831121]

how'd the glacier come to be named pine island when the antarctic has no trees?

[Anonymous No.15831488]

>>15781502
Ice (((Berg)))

[Anonymous No.15831757]

>>15781502
>>15831488
Guys who spell ice and berg as separate words are very sus desu.

[Anonymous No.15832787]

>>15788392
nobody can show you pictures of sea level rising as a result of glaciers melting, but finding pictures of sea level falling a result of glaciers melting is quite easy

[Anonymous No.15834016]

>>15828932
thats the clear answer
>the global warming conjecture predicts sea level rise
>sea level isn't rising
>therefore the global warming conjecture must be false

[Anonymous No.15834019]

>>15832787
> pictures of sea level falling a result of glaciers melting is quite easy
Then post them.

[Anonymous No.15834021]

>>15834016
>sea level isn't rising
And that’s where you’re wrong, faggot.

[Anonymous No.15834915]

>>15834019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IySkT_u6xPE

[Anonymous No.15835937]

>>15834021
sea level isn't rising

[Anonymous No.15835947]

>>15835937
And that’s where you’re wrong, faggot.

[Anonymous No.15836884]

>>15826368
> antarctica gaining several thousand cubic kilometers of ice annually
the next ice age is upon us

[Anonymous No.15837980]

>>15836884
Right on time too, Milankovitch cycles set the length of interglacial periods and our time is up.

[Anonymous No.15838798]

>>15781502
OK, you got me. The global warming meme is totally fake, I admit it. I am very sorry for having tried to trick you, please accept my apology.

[Anonymous No.15838981]

>>15835947
There is no sea level at all. It's an imaginary quantity like the average birthday of all the inhabitants of the madhouse you're inmated.

[Anonymous No.15838986]

>>15834915
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IySkT_u6xPE
Same bullshit the other way round. Stockholm is in the baltic sea wich has the norrow Skagerak to nort sea. Sea level change depends way more on main wind directions as on anything else.
Did not change the fact climate hoaxers are liars that should be defunded until they sleep under the bridge in their own pi.. .

[Anonymous No.15838990]

>>15836884
> antarctica gaining several thousand cubic kilometers of ice annually
It's not

[Anonymous No.15839064]

>>15838990
>It's not
Source: your ass.

[Anonymous No.15840159]

>>15794216
Shh, don't tell them we're still in an inter-glacial period and haven't fully left the previous one yet.

[Anonymous No.15840166]

>>15838986
w-w-w-w-well the w-w-w-weight of w-w-water is changing the sea floor!

[Anonymous No.15840492]

>>15837980
>Milankovitch cycles
low IQ greta types are too dumb and ignorant to understand Milankovitch cycles, thats why its so easy to trick them into believing the global warming meme

[Anonymous No.15840556]

>>15781502
Wow entire scientific community proven to be idiots with that one simple meme. You truly are brilliant but how could we lesser people have not thought about this?

[Anonymous No.15840574]

>>15840556
that simulation, like all computer simulations, sucks balls. that one was created by someone so far out of their league that they were either unaware of or unable to simulate isostatic uplift, which is why that lagoon appears in central greenland after the ice is gone.

[Anonymous No.15840584]

>>15840574
I hope the added water makes the other landmasses lift :)

[Anonymous No.15840620]

>>15840556
> It's called Greenland! It must be Green, and made of Land!
ngmi

[Anonymous No.15840763]

>>15840492
>Remember that time that they had to
rebrand "Global Warming" into "Climate Change"
Yeah. I do. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2003/mar/04/usnews.climatechange
>The phrase "global warming" should be abandoned in favour of "climate change", Mr Luntz says,

[Anonymous No.15840777]

>>15781502
Sorry

[Anonymous No.15842007]

>>15840777
apology accepted

[Anonymous No.15842422]

>>15840763
>Luntz
the jewish homosexual pedophile fox news guy.
amazingly, the environmentalist messiahs all followed his advice and the formerly common phrase "global warming" is no longer used by them.

[Anonymous No.15842435]

>>15842422
>the jewish homosexual pedophile fox news guy.
Don't forget republican. Also, by calling "them" environmentalists, you play by Luntz' playbook again:
>the party should describe its policies as "conservationist" instead of "environmentalist", because "most people" think environmentalists are "extremists" who indulge in "some pretty bizarre behaviour... that turns off many voters".

[Anonymous No.15843553]

>>15842435
>Don't forget republican
your "muh two parties" is a dumb work of fiction only incredibly low iqs legitimately believe in. fox news and the washington post both promote the same narrow agenda.

[Anonymous No.15843555]

>>15843553
Based "both sides" retard. One of the two sides finds you more useful than the other.

[Anonymous No.15843591]

>>15781502
Green*LAND*

[Anonymous No.15843593]

>>15843591
>it must mean that it was green
OP, probably. At least other retards think that.

[Anonymous No.15844156]

>>15843555
there is only one ZOG

[Anonymous No.15844163]

>>15781502
This debunks normies, it doesn't debunk actual science or scientists because the concerns over climate change are about ice on landmasses (such as Greenland) melting enough to end up in the ocean, which would introduce "more ice cubes" and raise the sea level, not about ice that is already floating in the ocean

[Anonymous No.15844165]

>>15844156
Pls explain this meme, I'm not up to date. That's the king in Disenchantment, right?

[Anonymous No.15845263]

>>15844165
https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/zog

[Anonymous No.15845266]

>>15845263
God, why are nazis so stupid?

[Anonymous No.15845884]

[Anonymous No.15846014]

>>15844163
The ice already floating in the ocean is freshwater ice over saltwater, if it melts it will increase the ocean level retard

[Anonymous No.15846015]

>>15845884
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.15847088]

>>15846014
no it won't

[nekoanonchan No.15847130]

Retardation in practice
Nazis kys

[Anonymous No.15847151]

>>15847088
Yes it will

[Anonymous No.15847773]

>>15845266

[Anonymous No.15848138]

Guys. You're missing the most important point. Landmasses can melt.

[Anonymous No.15848759]

>>15848138
They often do, volcanoes are the single biggest source of atmospheric CO2

[Anonymous No.15849426]

>>15822151
The Greenland ice sheet is currently accumulating mass

[Anonymous No.15850540]

>>15842435
The entirety of academia and all of the environmentalists happily and immediately adopted Luntz's newspeak, which just goes to show how accurate >>15843553 is and what a blatant charade the "muh two parties" rhetoric is and how dumb the people who fall for it are

[Anonymous No.15850722]

>>15784933
>Just give us more tax money goy, we can fix the climate

[Anonymous No.15851518]

>>15850722
How much do I have to pay to guarantee snow for Christmas?

[Anonymous No.15852472]

>>15781502
but the iceberg is also above the water

[fags are gay No.15852473]

>>15781502
never

[Anonymous No.15852559]

>>15791093
not that guy, but your the one claiming it's an issue to begin with

[Anonymous No.15853064]

>>15852472
no it isn't, the iceberg is mostly submerged, the average position of the ice is far below the water line

[Anonymous No.15853409]

>>15853064
the fact that some of the iceberg is above the water proves my point.

[Anonymous No.15853413]

>>15852559
*you're

[Anonymous No.15853608]

>>15853409
>the fact that some of the iceberg is above the water proves my point
But has less density. If ice melts it has less volume. Max density is afaik 4°C. Below it's expands. You can check that with a bottle of water in the freezer. Filled to the max. it bursts when freezing

[Anonymous No.15854593]

>>15853064
>the average position of the ice is far below the water line
This, the iceberg is effectively submerged because of it's average position. Ice will always be heavier than water

[Anonymous No.15855335]

>>15853409
>hawaii is less dense than water

[Anonymous No.15855467]

They say there is 158,000 cubic kilometers of ice on Earth, qnd 1.3 billion cubic kilometers of ocean water. So if all the ice melts then the volume of the oceans will increase by a whopping .01%. I'm so scared I forgot to tremble in my boots.

[Anonymous No.15855499]

>>15855467
>They say there is 158,000 cubic kilometers of ice on Earth
Who says that? You shouldn't listen to "them", since their number is ridiculously wrong. Greenland alone has a few million cubic kilometres of ice: https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/HannaBerenblit.shtml

[Anonymous No.15855508]

>>15855467
>>15855499
Taking an estimate of 30 million km^3 and the (realistic) estimate of 1.3 billion km^3, that's a whooping 30/1300 = 2.3% of the volume. Increasing the average depth of 3700m by 2.3% means a sea level rise of 85m. What's a better way to calculate it rather than percentages is to spread to spread the 30 million km^3 over the ocean surface are of 360 million km^2. That's a sea level rise of 83m.

[Anonymous No.15855523]

>>15855508
To add to this: I assumed equal densities for ice and water, so take this with a generous uncertainty of 10%. I also neglected thermal expansion of today's liquid water, which means that the 85m vastly underestimate any real sea level rise anyway.

[Anonymous No.15855643]

>>15854593
>Ice will always be heavier than water
That's the reason icebergs swim and do not go to the ground. Lead bars show the same effect and coins.

[Anonymous No.15855649]

>>15855508
>. Increasing the average depth
That' s below retarded so /sci level. You have to use the water coverage area of mother earths surface.

[Anonymous No.15855652]

>>15855649
Keep reading, retard. I did. And got basically the same number.

[Anonymous No.15856782]

Water deforms the ocean basis same as ice crushes deforms the land its sitting on. If all the ice were to melt and flow into the oceans, the oceans would just get deeper from the added mass and sea level would not rise.
Theres is a pic that illustrates this process in >>15832787

[Anonymous No.15858231]

>>15855652
You're operating on the simpleton's presumption that the Earth's surface is completely rigid and undeformable

[Anonymous No.15858897]

>>15840574
people who make computer simulations are low iq

[Anonymous No.15858947]

>>15858897
>search image in google
>only pops up on literal oil shill websites
>sorry, I meant to say "conservative think tanks funded by the Koch brothers and totally not oil shills"
For real though, where is this from? Is it worth looking at this or is it a straw man?

[Anonymous No.15860159]

>>15858897
>people who make computer simulations are low iq
this, they are idiots, they are too low iq to understand confirmation bias, i used to work for a guy who published articles on simulated scenarios.

[Anonymous No.15860161]

inb4 the daily bump from page 10

[Anonymous No.15860167]

>>15860159
>>15860161
FUCK, I was seconds too late.