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...where the dark matter particles?

>> No.15779845

>current model doesn't match observations
>observations suggest a phenomenon of some kind that looks like additional gravitational attraction taking place all over the universe
>currently we know that particles with mass contribute to gravitation
>therefore the most coherent hypothesis is that there are massive particles that we can't yet detect
>somehow the schizos cannot understand this

>> No.15779906

>>15779845
>search for particle
>it isn't there
>it must be a magic particle, then

>> No.15779909

>>15779906
Scoyence went to SHIT when CHUDS started to worship it

>> No.15779919

>>15779906
>>15779909
You're free to suggest a better hypothesis

>> No.15779928

>>15779919

Empiricism is junk.

>> No.15779943

>>15779845
>>15779906
The dunning Kruger effect is running wild on this board

>> No.15779946

>>15779906
>DUDE WE SEARCHED FOR THE HIGGS BOSON ALREADY IT CLEARLY DOESN'T EXISTS!!!

>> No.15779949

>>15779946
The Higgs Boson is like a mapping of the Higgs Field. It's actually a map. Following the map correctly would provide knowledge on how to collide and produce anti matter.

>> No.15779961

>>15779949
the higgs boson is something we thought existed but didnt have the means to detect for a long time, just like what might be happening with dark matter

now shut the fuck up

>> No.15779966

>>15779961
Ok homo

>> No.15779970

>>15779966
>unrelated reply
>pathetic concession

>> No.15779975

>>15779961
The Higgs Boson, once referred to as the God Particle, is a universe incarnate. It is a map, just like the stars in formation in the created universe. We think it will bring us closer to antimatter. For that we need to follow the Higgs Boson to something post-planetary level, to the direct locale as we are now.

Now fart for me baby girl, you know you wanna

>> No.15779979

>>15779845
actually the most coherent is to make a new theory of gravity
cop on

>> No.15779980

>>15779975
what science texbook or research paper are you getting those claims from?

>> No.15779985

>>15779980
Your Mom's ass

>> No.15779987

>>15779979
>actually the most coherent is to make a new theory of gravity
based around what you fucking retard? we are all ears.
adding a new particle to the standard model is way easier than making up a whole new theory that somehow works just as well as what we already have

>> No.15779991

>>15779985
Interesting, you think you are baiting anyone? trolling anyone? you're just pathetic

>> No.15780000

>>15779991
You're the troll trying to de-rail truth posts.

2controversial4u

>> No.15780004

>>15779987
based around fucking do research and make one instead of shoehorning unproven things in.
They should be working on making one.

>> No.15780008

>>15779793
Dark matter is a hyperactive metal that detects all forces including mental force. At first the reception would be petty but that would increase if you crafted it into something optimal.

>> No.15780015

>>15780008
It could be made into a mental force identification plate that created a pattern depending on what mental force was sent and be able to create a pattern for all mental force. Perfect for mental implants.

>> No.15780024

>>15780000
>it's the truth
proof?

>> No.15780025

>>15780004
>DUDE THIS RUSSIAN RETARD HAS MADE A TABLE OF ALL THE ELEMENTS AND IT HAS FUCKIGN HOLES WITH "UNPROVEN" ELEMENTS NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN AHAHAHAH WHAT A FUCKING RETARD WE SHOULD WORK ON SOMETHING ELSE!!

>> No.15780027

>>15780015
Typically the logic between anti matter and dark matter is dark matter is a metal that there exist many options for it's crafting bringing with it a new wave of tech; whilst antimatter is a crystal and it has but one use and that's rejuvenation which can be used for infinite energy purposes or healing natural things. There are also higher upgraded forms in layer of matter to energy to magic to Zen. Dark Zen being the best dark version

>> No.15780032

>>15780027
A form of Magic being literally the center of a cyclone. It is drawn from, withheld and cast.

>> No.15780045

>>15780024
I don't want one more peep from you sunshine.

>> No.15780057

>>15779961
So now that the neutrino and boson have both been directly observed, not just hypothesized, when can we expect dark matter to be observed instead of merely supposed? It's been many decades as it is.
>>15779919
? You're the one putting forth this idea of a special particle, just produce one so we know it's real. They apparently make up the majority of all matter so it should be doable.

>> No.15780078

>>15780057
>cites directs examples of this happening
>B-BUT HOW MANY DECADES UNTIL IT HAPPENS!?!?!?!?!
holy retard

>> No.15780091

>>15780078
So you don't know? Do you have a ballpark? 30, 50, 100? And what of these stellar structures that don't seem to have enough dark matter, or any, where it's predicted as necessary?

>> No.15780139

>>15780091
you realize anything you are saying could be applied to any undiscovered thing we have ever discovered?
fucking retard get a grip, how about you tell me a nice ballpark about when the millennium prize math problems will be solved

>> No.15780173

>>15780139
And how much funding did you want for next year's research budget again?

>> No.15780182

>>15780173
as much as possible faggot, only a clueless retard would want less money in science. especially while posting from a comuputer

>> No.15780309

>>15779961
>the higgs boson is something we thought existed but didnt have the means to detect for a long time, just like what might be happening with dark matter
Then gives us the theoretical experiment that would prove or disprove dark matter. Well that´s not going to happen, is it?
So galaxies show different rotations that doesn´t match with our current understanding of gravity. Even worse, the rotations are all over the place. I then say, well it´s just God that spins the galaxies at different rotations for fun. Then a scientist comes along and say, well you can think that, but unless you come up with a falsifiable experiment to prove or disprove your theory, it´s not science.

Then a scientist comes along and sees the galaxies are spinning at wildly different rates. Some small galaxies spin like they have much more mass, some like they have slightly more mass and some match pretty well with our current understanding of gravity. The scientist then says, ahh, there is this magic juice called dark matter. The small galaxy spinning like it has much more mass must contain a lot of dark matter. The one spinning like it has slightly more mass must contain a bit of dark matter and the galaxy spinning just like we expect it too must contain almost no dark matter at all.

Then the guy who thinks it is just God spinning the galaxies at different rates ask the scientist, ok, do you have a falsifiable experiment to prove or disprove your theory? Well do you?

>> No.15780318

>>15779793
Most likely their math is just wrong and dark matter is not real. 2 examples comes to mind. The first is of course the "all swans are white". When you do finally get to Australia and see a black swan, the first assumption is to think you are seeing a new species of bird, not a black swan.
The other simple example is waters boiling temperature. Now I live in Denmark and we have no mountains, our tallest point is 170 meters above sea. So a Danish scientist could very well have very precise data and mathematical formulas on how much energy you need to add to how much water to get it to boil. He then travels to Mount Everest and finds all that math to be wrong as he starts to climb the mountain. What´s even worse is he doesn´t need to make one correction, it keeps changing the higher up the mountain he climbs.

Some of the galaxies have lots of dark matter, some have medium and some have very little to account for their rotations. Well obviously, since gravity works different in different parts of the universe. There is no extra matter, it´s just the properties of gravity that changes depending on where in the universe you are. Dark matter and dark energy are the biggest copes in science since "it must be God". That´s not an exaggeration since the theoretical experiments to prove or disprove dark matter and dark energy are just as plentiful as the theoretical experiments to prove or disprove that "it must God", which means there are none.

>> No.15780525

>>15780025
>100 years pass
>the unproven elements are nowhere to be found
Still looking for planet Vulcan?

>> No.15780868

>>15780309
I will tell you about my experiment for a small funding fee of ten million dollars.

>> No.15780875

>>15779961
>mass
>hurdur mass particle
Simple as pokemon

>> No.15780918

Dark matter isn't real...the rotational effects caused by dark energy preserve gravitational fields causing a local coupling in which the mass field is boosted by the field gradient potential. Obilviously you can't see a differential effect when it comes to gravity...

>the matter is a lie

>> No.15781689

>>15780918
So it's not dark matter, it's dark energy. Can you show us proof dark energy exists? Direct proof mind you, not 'well our math is wrong, so it must be there.'

>> No.15781770

>>15779987
Sure like gravitons exist as well right?

>> No.15781841

There are probably types of senses that humans don't have that will prevent us from acquiring the necessary information to formulate an accurate grand unified theory.

>> No.15782136

>>15781770
yes
m=0, spin=2

>> No.15782694

What is currently considered the best candidate for dark matter?

>> No.15782717

In the clouds of dark matter that we can't detect. Where else would they be?

>> No.15782756

>>15782717
ooh ah oh ah oooh
I - I can't observe them!